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Vlain:
Are you saying e wey one on this thread thinks it isn’t Vlain that is talking but Sammy? Answer in yes or No

nobody thinks anything.... We all know its you Sammy

Vlain:
Who is we.
This is Vlain writing pls.

everybody ons this thread Sammy

mtisTheQubit:
For folks wailing about shopping space ..none comes close to nairobi bae..

South African cities are so far ahead they didn't even bother to include them

Vlain:
Again you keep forgetting to write Vlain instead. And here I was thinking I am making such great progress. I really do t want to give up on you my laatije,pls don’t make me. I believe I can still change you. Now take a deep breath and try again. This time focus pls.

Sammy we know its you

Shma:
I asked Jl115 to prove that jorbug as of 2021, has more than 100 malls -with the list. He went mute. He Can't do that because he knows jorbug has less than the figure he provided.

The same way I previously asked him to prove that there number 10 best mall is better than the signature mall in Kenya - at number 4, he failed.

But anyhow, that's btwn him and me. I would have debated with you but I know how things will turn. So just maintain there as a spectator.

best is subjective.... Can't be proven by statistics..... Hence the debate was actually 10 biggest malls

Shma:
I asked Jl115 to prove that jorbug as of 2021, has more than 100 malls -with the list. He went mute. He Can't do that because he knows jorbug has less than the figure he provided.

The same way I previously asked him to prove that there number 10 best mall is better than the signature mall in Kenya - at number 4, he failed.

But anyhow, that's btwn him and me. I would have debated with you but I know how things will turn. So just maintain there as a spectator.

you good bro? 750 malls in gauteng alone......
https://m.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/567/204814.html#:~:text=South%20Africa%20has%20approximately%202%2C000,of%2010%20million%20metres%20squared.

Lurker4Long:
Apparently a 4-year trial covering 25 000km in various conditions isn't supposed to yield problems so that the feedback can be used to improve prototypes before going into full production.
Jane's Defence, Shephard Media, the European Defence Review and others should all close shop cos they don't know this.

the man lives for the moments where he can post something even slightly negative about South Africa

Vlain:
U mean to say 100% Vlain.

I believe there is a mix up somewhere 8 pls try again

yeah sure Sammy

Shma:
You're cornered, my bruh. How or rather when did jorburg vs Nairobi turned out to be Kenya vs South Africa? And then again, how can Kenya be having 66 malls yet Nairobi, kajiado and kiambu alone has more than 80?

And then again, which source is that? Who came up with that source? Do you believe Africa facts zone?

South Africa has approximately 2,000 malls, with Gauteng alone having over 750 malls

https://m.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/567/204814.html#:~:text=South%20Africa%20has%20approximately%202%2C000,of%2010%20million%20metres%20squared.

Vlain:
Uhmmmm no, I won’t be getting down on some shitty dick measuring contest. I would just give you facts instead.

SA has over 2,000 malls and they are ranked 8 globally. Kenya malls is not up to Pretoria malls in numbers.

Also Nigeria has more more space than kenya(we the second biggest in SSA) . And yes kenya places second fiddle to both SA and Nigeria in mall spaces. Now poison yourself and die.

100% Sammy

Shma:
See. ... You can't prove your claims. Lucky you, you have zombies who will rush for your support.

Anyway, it's good to steer clear of debates that will expose your country. (while engaging me)

yet I've already proved with citations that Joburg has a road network nearly the size of Kenya, a rail network larger than Kenya, more mall/retail space, more wealth, nearly the same GDP ect ect

Shma:
You're cornered, my bruh. How or rather when did jorburg vs Nairobi turned out to be Kenya vs South Africa? And then again, how can Kenya be having 66 malls yet Nairobi, kajiado and kiambu alone has more than 80?

And then again, which source is that? Who came up with that source? Do you believe Africa facts zone?

chill my bru....its always been Joburg vs Kenya only ret@rds would compare Nairobi to Joburg

Shma:
The same source from weetracker. No SA, just west Africa zoos.

OK and?

kabe1:
South-Africa's Paramount group 8x8 didn't do well in trials in Kazakhstan.


According to the source, the Barys 8x8 IFV of Kazakhstan Paramount Engineering, have a lot of technical problems with the engine, running gears and suspension, weapon system, FCS soft and turret.

is it now?

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/barys-8x8-completes-four-year-trials-in-kazakhstan/

Shma:
Statista is run by economics professionals. The only difference is that it bases its finding on other repeatable sources like IMF, WB, etc to come up with a more factual statement after analysis.

cool story bro

Shma:
No, no, no... You can't escape from this bruh. I just want a prove that jorburg has 100+ malls.

my boy AfriqueDuZuid came through like a champ

mtisTheQubit:
2015 data Boer...guess your hunting wasnt that good today heeh

yeah probably even worse now after covid...

Shma:
Again, we are talking about malls. Drop the link that says Joburg has a hundred plus malls. .. Retail space will come next.

drop the link that says Joburg only has 50

Shma:
To some extent, as compared to WB, yes. It analyzes data from several reputable sources then comes up with a clear finding.

yeah I think I'll stick with the WB mate you don't see economist using research from statista now do you

Shma:
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Hundreds...? Where is the Source? Don't come here with half-baked information, my bruh. Jorbug at max has 50malls with another 40 extending to other parts of sandton.

Don't shift goalposts, urbanization was not the bone of contention. Or even so, do you think a country like ghana Is more advAnced than India with only 30% urbanization?

23million Square meters of retail space bru..... Kenya barely has 2million.....do the math.

Also I'm talking about factors contributing to Kenyas growth

Shma:
world bank is not the God of stats. World bank is running with approximated figures.

but statista is?? cool story bro!

Shma:
I gave you the data. It's 26% for Kenya and 18.9% for SA. same source, bruh.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1227076/extreme-poverty-rate-in-kenya/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1127838/national-poverty-line-in-south-africa/

World Bank my bru

https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=KE-ZA

Shma:
I gave you the data. It's 26% for Kenya and 18.9% for SA. same source, bruh.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1227076/extreme-poverty-rate-in-kenya/

straight from the world bank bru

https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=KE-ZA

Shma:
I want to know the number of malls in jorbug.
And also, you brought up the same debate, you should be in a position to substantiate your claim. SA gdp as of 2021 is 3 times that of Kenya, it used to be 6times back in 2012.

my bru..... Hundreds.... Literally hundreds
.. South Africa is 8th in the world when it comes to total retail space.

Of course Kenya will catch up economically, your population is growing at a much higher rate than ours and you only have like 30% urbanisation..

Shma:
South Africa - 19% Kenya -26%

Don't ignore the fact that SA is rich in resources .

Also, don't ignore the poverty declining rate in Kenya.

actually it is 18.7% vs 37.1%

Also since 1992 poverty has actually increased in Kenya

https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=KE-ZA

Shma:
Quick question, what is jorbug GDP?
Road network nearly the size of our country? Drop the stats, Let's compare it with Nairobi.
Everything you've mentioned can only be compared with Nairobi.

We also need to compare the economic growth rate for both countries. Your minerals are sinking with your economy my bruh.

Number of malls in jorbug? Nairobi has 44 with 5 others under construction.

I've already posted all these facts the last time we had the exact same debate

Also how is our economy shrinking? In fact the gap between our GDPs has grown considerably after our rebase

44?? Cute I think George has more than that

Shma:
Joburg itself is just a few yrs ahead of Nairobi - how can it be compared to Kenya? Don't ignore the growth rate, Nairobi is slowly bridging the gap. Compare Nairobi with jorbug or cape town.

Joburg alone has a gdp nearly the size of your entire country, a road network nearly the size of your entire country, a rail network that's bigger than your entire country, more malls than your entire country, more wealth than your entire country....must I go on?

rvp2018:
Kenya has nothing...south Africa has everything.You should be comparing yourself with mineral rich countries

yeah i do.... Hence I compare Kenya to Joburg

theenchanter:
pls, take ur nyaope gently.

facts my bru

mtisTheQubit:
Bro, you can't apply average to everything.
Look at it this way: (90+10)/5= 60+40)/5  . 10% may be holding everything in S.A., while 90% are merely there...
A ret@ard (yep, you call people like that) like you can think you're doing great compared to majority of Africans, but naah...things on the ground are different bro.

what is the poverty rates again of SA and Kenya?.....

Mkenya2019:
Yes South Africa from 1960s has been the Saudi Arabia of Minerals. That mineral wealth unfortunately has not benefited majority black - but has gone to a small white tiny elite.

has it not? I could swear South African Black citizens are 2-3 times more wealthy than the average Kenyan

obaaderemi:
Something is wrong with south Africa.


All this mineral wealth, one country?

and Nigeria has oil which is worth more than all SAs minerals combined