Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:39am On Nov 18, 2021 |
Just30: [s][/s] wow sad  the once mighty Just30 is now resorting to this  Man out of all the people, didn't expect you to go full ret@rd.... |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 8:35am On Nov 18, 2021 |
dragon2: Interesting read.
Once a formidable force that commanded the respect of the US, the Ethiopian army has suffered such heavy losses on the front lines that the government has taken the extraordinary step of calling on ordinary citizens to join the war against the Tigrayan rebels.
It marks a dramatic change in the military's fortunes.
A year ago it ousted the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) as the ruling party in the northern Tigray region - now the group's fighters are taking towns on the way to the capital, Addis Ababa.
"TPLF fighters first bled the army through guerrilla warfare in Tigray by carrying out hit-and-run attacks," US-based Horn of Africa analyst Faisal Roble explains.
"Then they went into combat to finish it off."
However, Achamyeleh Tamiru - an Ethiopian economist and political commentator - believes the TPLF's advances are only "temporary".
"Ethiopians from all walks of life are rising to defend and salvage Ethiopia," he said.
The rebel force is made up of tens of thousands of fighters The tactics of the TPLF fighters remind former BBC Tigrinya editor Samuel Ghebhrehiwet of his life as a young Eritrean guerrilla who, alongside Tigrayans, fought Ethiopia's Mengistu Haile Mariam regime until it was overthrown in 1991.
They were "lightly armed, highly agile, living on survival food, and showing deep resilience and determination".
Eritrea went on to win its independence, while the TPLF took power in Ethiopia - though its political dominance came to an end in 2018 following mass protests.
Its leaders retreated to Tigray from where the group fired the shots in the current conflict in early November 2020 by launching an assault on a federal military base with the support of loyalists in the army - including commanders and soldiers - who then defected to its ranks.
Not only was a huge stockpile of weapons seized, but high-ranking officers and soldiers who resisted were killed or captured in their thousands.
"The night-time attack on the base has effectively created a vacuum that literally makes Ethiopia without a federal army," Mr Achamyeleh said.
However, the military - with crucial help from the Eritrean army, and forces and militias from Ethiopia's Amhara region - overcame the setback, launching air strikes and a ground offensive that led to the TPLF being dislodged from power in Tigray in under a month.
But, Mr Samuel said, as they committed widespread atrocities against civilians - including raping, killing and burning crops - Tigrayans from "all sections of society then joined the TPLF to protect their dignity".
"Parents told their children: 'Rather than die at home go and fight.' It became a war between the people of Tigray and the army - not just a war between the TPLF and the army."
Air strikes by Ethiopia's military have caused many casualties in Tigray According to Mr Roble, former generals who had retired or defected went to Tigray's mountains and caves to form the Tigray Defence Force (TDF) as the TPLF's military wing to ensure that the tens of thousands of new recruits were well organised.
"These generals felt it was their duty to protect the citizens of Tigray. With their inside knowledge of the army they plotted its defeat," Mr Roble said.
With Tigrayan fighters now less than 300km (185 miles) from the capital, it is clear they currently have the upper hand over an army that used to be one of the most powerful in Africa, he says.
"Ethiopia was America's number-one partner in the so-called war on terror in the Horn Africa, especially in Somalia, where it overthrew the Union of Islamic Courts[a precursor of al-Shabab]. America funded the military, armed it, and even supplied its soldiers with ready-to-eat meals," Mr Roble said.
"And the African Union relied on it for peacekeeping missions, but Ethiopia itself is now unstable and its military is a shadow of its former self."
Desertions and demoralisation Trouble for the TPLF began when Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed took office in April 2018 after huge numbers of people from Ethiopia's two biggest ethnic groups - Oromos and Amharas - staged protests against its 27 years at the helm of government.
Mr Abiy proposed sweeping reforms, causing deep rifts with the TPLF.
"Tigrayans make up only about 6% of the population and when the TPLF was in power, it created a federal system which gave ethnic groups their own regional states," Mr Roble said.
"The TPLF felt Mr Abiy [an Oromo] wanted to centralise power. It caused a massive fall-out between them and eventually led to the war," Mr Roble said.
Alex de Waal, executive director of the US-based World Peace Foundation, said that Mr Abiy also set out to overhaul the military to ensure it was loyal to him, and to address concerns about Tigrayan dominance.
"Tigrayans made up about 18% of the whole army, and about twice that in the officer corps. Their numbers were disproportionate compared to the size of the population. Mr Abiy started reforms to push out Tigrayans, and created an Emirati-trained Republican Guard loyal to him," said Prof De Waal.
"The changes demoralised the army, and it ceased to be a cohesive force. Mr Abiy did not have time to reconstitute it before the war started."
He said of the army's 20 divisions, 10 - made up of about 5,000 soldiers each - had been routed, with at least 10,000 soldiers killed and a similar number captured. The BBC tried to get comment from the Ethiopian National Defence spokesman, but he did not respond.
Human-wave attacks After recapturing most of Tigray in June, the TPLF launched an offensive in the neighbouring Amhara and Afar regions, while Mr Abiy called on all able-bodied Ethiopians to join the army and militias to help defeat the rebels.
Like Tigrayans, Amharas have been victims of atrocities "To halt the Tigray advance, the army organised [in Amhara] human-wave attacks by peasants, students and urban youth. They were passionate to defend their land but they only had basic training of a few weeks, and would charge TDF positions," Prof De Waal said.
"Sometimes, the second wave wouldn't even have guns. Thousands of them - possibly even tens of thousands - were killed by the TDF."
"It creates a complicated human rights situation because it blurs the distinction between combatant and civilian. It also increases animosity between people - in this case Amharas and Tigrayans - and makes it more difficult to achieve peace and reconciliation."
Mr Achamyeleh disputes this was a tactic, saying young men had to defend communities under attack from the rebels when no troops were around.
"They could not sit at home idly when the TPLF was going door-to-door to hunt down Amharas, massacring mothers and raping their daughters."
In the latest move to regain the initiative, the federal government declared a state of emergency, giving it the power to conscript "any military age citizen who has weapons" and recalling retired officers to duty.
The Amhara regional government also announced its own measures, ordering the closure of all government offices and asking citizens to make their vehicles available.
Prof De Waal said the moves were unlikely to be effective.
"They can mobilise large numbers but the command-and-control structure of the army has disintegrated. An army is an institution built over years, with common purpose, common doctrines, and common practices."
But Canada-based security expert Ann Fitz-Gerald believes the TPLF fighters have suffered much higher losses, saying it was the TPLF that was using "human waves" as a desperate measure to seize control of strategic routes and to acquire negotiating power.
The military is currently holding its position, Prof Fitz-Gerald says, with local reports suggesting that it has thwarted 12 attempts by the TPLF to take Mille - a town close to the road that leads to the ports of Djibouti - access which is vital for the landlocked country.
Negotiation not capture The TPLF is also involved in an offensive aimed at putting Addis Ababa - which has a population of more than five million - under siege.
Thousands of Ethiopian soldiers have been captured by the rebels "The TPLF wants to put the government under pressure to negotiate. I don't think they will enter Addis Ababa. They are very unpopular there," says Mr Samuel.
Prof De Waal says the government faces a "military defeat, but the TPLF cannot claim victory because winning is political.
"They need support and the co-operation of a sufficient number of political actors, which they do not have.
"So there will have to be negotiations, and the TPLF's focus will be on securing the future of Tigray." the Ethiopian defence force has never been a force to be reckoned with,unfortunately like most African militaries it was merely a uniformed Militia with a couple of planes..... |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:32am On Nov 18, 2021 |
NTSA: So apart from quoting blogs talking about reliability , wound theories ,,..and the superior infantry calibre ; you guys haven't been able to prove how 5.56 round will hit harder than NATO 7.62 round.? because it doesn't |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:31am On Nov 18, 2021 |
Just30: [s][/s] naa he disengaged like a real man than to drag a Convo with a lying re@tard.  just post one instance where I lied Sammy  just 1 |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:32pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Appisko: Enough of this ballistic bullsh**t know your role and stay in your lane..... |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:13pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: [s][/s] what's that other guys name that never responds but just crosses out posts??  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:11pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: he knew he wouldn't want to engage a liar in a long Convo and backed out
Nigh tonight liar  nope he just apologised like a real man instead of going full ret@rd |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:10pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:10pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: you are still lying and accusing someone who is calling you on your lies 
That is a sign of desperation and yet you have not once provided a single post where I referred to the AR15.... Just like you've not provided one piece of evidence that states the Scar has failed a reliability test |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:08pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: actually noth primary cavity have the same size except for the fact that 5.56 has a secondary one
Open your eyes and read the data  are you blind? Both images are on the exact same scale to each other.... You can see it by just comparing the cm with each other |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:07pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: yeah He didn't want to engage you on the long Convo you are currently having with me ..
Go and sleep liar nope he just knew that he made a mistake and manned the fvck up and apologised.... |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:05pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: now you are getting desperate 
Typing like a KG kid the only desperate one here is the person that had to make up lies  .... That's you btw |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:04pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: do you see the secounday cavity at the temporary cavity area on the 5.56 profile ?
Thank me for the education to broaden your knowledge  did you see that the cavity for the 7.62 is literally twice as large? |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:03pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: if you can't go back to read your on posts
How do you expect me to do that for you ....
Everyone corrected you that AR did not mean Assault Rifle , just accept that you didn't know and stop digging yourself into more lies.  did they now? Mzal3ndo: Ohh! My bad. After reading the convo Mzal3ndo actually apologised like a real man  even he saw I didn't once refer the the AR15 |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:00pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:58pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:57pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: You are still lying after being caught in one lie where you claim AR means assault rifle in AR-15  show me where I mentioned the AR15...  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:53pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: I've already showed you were to look .... Hit me up after you finished learning
 well done on sh1fting the goal posts just like Sammy  you are becoming more like him day by day  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:52pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: you've been wrong since you engaged in this convo
Take the L and pass. Accept the free education  I wasn't wrong.... And you blatantly lied  .... Twice... You lied about me talking about the AR15 and you lied about the Scar failing a reliability test |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:51pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: it doesn't work that way kiddo
Bigger cavity equals more pain .
Something that creates a clean cut wound and exit does not create the kind of pain created by a nasty cavity..  jeezez that's what I meant by bigger hole.. Smh |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:43pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: you have, severally come now Sammy.... Just qoute where I did once  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:42pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: I can bet I have more experience with rifle that you but I will let it pass.
Bye I can bet you don't 
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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:39pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: yes it is
I'm just surprised you don't understand the measurements the big hole = more pain  ...... I can't make it more simple for you bru  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:38pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: it has on so many.
Hit me up when you have something better to talk about, I'm done with the rifle nonsense hit me up when you found that link stating the Scar failed a reliability test  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:37pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: Maybe when you learn and stop being ignorant to those facts by deciding to ask for some free education, you will understand. stop acting like Samorobo, you were wrong.... Take it on the chin and move on |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:01pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: let say I'm tired of your lies so I've passed on the two days argument I've not lied once bru  hence why you couldn't even qoute one qoute where I was talking about the AR15 |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:01pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: yes, several times well judging by what you are saying u have never even touched a rifle |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:00pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: whatever delusions you have , seek doctors help.
Read the profiles again and learn its there on black and white with measurements!!! |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:00pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: check with SOCCOM I did.... And it doesn't state that the Scar has ever failed a reliability test. |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:59pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Just30: what ever kiddo
I'm done with the rifle convo maybe if you stopped being ignorant and stubborn you would of realised that I was actually in agreement with you that the 5.56 is the best infantry calibre..... But no, you had to debate something you know little about and then conjure up lies about things I never said. |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:57pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN: I am very disappointed the Kenyans Ghanaian South African and Tanzanian arguing about bullets and ballistics. Why buildings in Nigeria are collapsing on a weekly basis. Anyway let me go back and concentrate on my Farm nobody cares if you are disappointed |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:56pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
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