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Explain this rubbish please. I can't make anything out of it. And don't try to confuse with unecessary long junk. Go straight to the point .

goshen360:
As long as we continue to look at the Church as if it belongs to somebody or an individual, then we are not seeing things right. The church belongs to Jesus, individuals who have given their lived to Christ and also come together to fellowship. This is what the church means. When God uses an individual to establish or set up a worship center, it doesn't mean it belongs to such person. This is where it is different from the worldly kind of organization where we have CEO and all sorts of positions.

It's carnal minds that think that way . Those who feel a pastor is running a business. Ministry is about spititual leadership not carnal positioning

Why didn't paul rotate his post? Why didn't Jesus rotate his leadership. Very funny thread

@BEERNIMORE

IF ANYONE WANTS TO REPLY HE SHOULD TELL US 'WHY THE INTERPRETER DEMANDED BY THE LORDS ALONGSIDE SPEAKING TONGUE WAS ACTUALLY VIOLATED OR ABANDONED FOR SELF PRACTICE OF TONGUE SPEAKING.

what you're missing here is that. You only need interpretation when talking to men in tongues in form of preaching ,prophecy or exhortation .

But when you pray to God personally ,he needs no interpretation . Hope it answers your question.

BERNIMOORE:
IN A NUT SHELL,IF YOU MUST SPEAK IN TONGUE, THERE MUST BE AN INTERPRETER WHO WILL ACTUALLY TRANSLATE IT TO THE HEARERS, AND IF NOT, YOU HAVE 'VIOLATED THE LORDS COMMANDMENT' IN DOING IT YOUR OWN WAY, SIMPLE.


1COR 14:27,28,37 (KJV)

It's not true. There are several kinds of speaking in tongues. If you preach to people in tongues ,you need to interprete but if you're praying to God in tongues that's perfectly normal ,you don't need interpretation. Every christian ought to speak in tongues.

Mark 16:17
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Get the blance everything has its place

1 Corinthians 14:39
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

God doesn't take away his blessing from us.


Proverbs 10:22
The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich,and he addeth no sorrow with it.

crossman9:
I was part of their band of goons for a time it’s all about money not Jesus that is why I told people this is no joking matter mast.ru.b.at.ion is against Gods word

Show the verse where God calls it a sin agsinst him.

Chuksxp:
Well, to an extent I do agree with you. God has different plans for everyone. He makes some believers rich and makes some poor.

God didn't create nobody poor. Poverty is mans choice .

That's one of the dangers of the prosperity doctrine that says God wants every believer to be rich.

There is nothing like prosperity gospel. Prosperity is part of the gospel.

Luke 4:18

If the good news to the blind is recovering of their sight, and good news to those who mourn is joy ,good news to th broken hearted is joy. Certainly the good news to the poor is prosperity
"The Spirit of the Lord is with me. He has anointed me to tell the Good News to the poor.

Question, what's good news to the poor? Is it their burial announcement or the hope of their prosperity .

All these people just want to rubbish the body of Christ by all means.

Matthew 16:18
. . . I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

can't even refer to one scripture Study. . Study, . . .

God is not commanding servitude. All he wants is a relationship with us. And we are the beneficiary of such relationship .We have nothing to offer . He has all to offer. Theres an advasary of man out there to frustrate. That's the devil

ZIM DRILL:
you carry it to use it as testimony not to phophetic meeting it will look like it was staged

It's rather because of doubters, those hospitals have integrity to maintain.

why carry the soveniers as if people will doubt the prophency ? let people doubt after it has said prove to them on later meeting

You don't understand. When a man of God is praying , some people bring out pictures of their love ones probably who is sick in the hospital as a point of contact. Others may bring out documents which they need a miracle for. Some also bring their own medical test. To show their ailment. Some churches demands for thes medical test or diagnoses in renowned hospital because of those who doubt miracles  like you . Some also demand for it to filter out infiltrators who are not sick but come to pretend and cause scandal.

goshen360:
Honestly and seriously, WE SHOULD BEGIN TO ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST. I HOPE TO ADDRESS BIBLICAL TEACHINGS ON SOME PENTECOSTAL ISSUES IN THE NEAREST FUTURE AS GOD WILL ALLOW ME. SHALOM !

What will you explain in the demonstration of Gods power. Do you cast out devils, do you heal the sick? If you don't , then you know little or nothing about what you're talking about. You should rather be humble to learn truth from those who have the power of God working in their lives.

What will you say about handkerchief being used from the body of Paul? What will you say about the shadow of Peter healing the sick. If they didn't do it in the bible and you see someone do it in our generation I bet you will rather call him an Antichrist instead of glorifying God for the resurrection power being demonstrated in the church today. What do you say about Jesus using spittle to heal blind eyes? Jesus is thesame yesterday ,today and forever. He had given authority to the church to work miracles in his name,

ZIM DRILL:
on this video it claims prophency. .

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why would the woman produce pictures of the accident  and the emails as if she has been asked to prove the prophency when actaully the prophency is in the process of being told

People do carry such "soverniers" as point of contact in prophetic meetings.  People also carry medical records as a demonstration of Their faith  Believing to use it as testimony If they get healed.

Sweatshirt:
Sorry but that looks like one of the most fake things I've seen in a while. In a related video he is then a prophet

Not convinced.

Yes he's a prophet. Check out his prophecy:

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Instead these empty posts and waste of your time , why don't you study your bible and at least put some substance in. .

Demain_man:
Pst Agbaje, Keep deceiving yourself. Keep mocking God with your[i] 'Self-service is not a sin because it's not in the Bible'

Stop rambling as usual . Show us from Gods word . It's people like like you who use man made laws to nullify Gods power. Let me add more laws for your religious head. "CHEWING GUM IS A SIN" hope you feel good now.

My country is indeed in trouble big time with fake pastors like these guys!!

The trouble is rather the enslavement of religious folks like you. "SNORING IS A SIN"

Pastor Kun:
So going by Joagbaje's logic CE members are full of evil spirits. Hmmm very interesting.

I gave two reasons but you only dwell on one. I said the power of God can take away the NEGATIVE that's one it also imparts the POSITIVE. so it's not every time someone falls down that there's a demon. When the power of God comes upon a person and he imparted positively by Gods blessing he can also fall

The bible ordains the laying of hands to impart blessing. But a situation whereby people are many and the minister can't go round laying hands on every body, he has to use other methods. That's where the "take it" thing comes from. Ministering importation to everybody at the same time and stretching his hand in the direction of where the power should go. That's one of the reasons a camera man may not fall . Hands are not stretched towards camera men.

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There are several reasons for falling down. But all by Gods power . When the power comes upon a man. It either takes away the negative or impart the the positive sometimes both. When evil leaves a person. He may fall most times. Some times not , there could be other manifestations like coughing or vomiting of certain substances etc.

When the power of God impart the positive on a person ,he may fall also. Some don't fall too. Even on tv. It's not all that falls even when hand is laid on them . Others may fall without a touch.

Those who see it as obligation to fall (if there is any) are wrong. You don't need to fall if the anointing didn't fall you. You can still be blessed standing .

@op

What do you say about this?

Acts 19:6
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

diluminati:
The article above addresses the scenario of a pastor placing hands on a partcular person and the false impression of being slain in the spirit exhibited.

So what do you say about this charade" here.

Mark 9:26
26 And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.

So it's their fault and not the pastor . That clears pastor chris. But why falling why not jumping or standing on one leg

^^^

You're right. The frustration within is eating her up slowly.

As I said ,your Ego will not allow you here. I can understand. But you know inside,you need help. I have helped many like you.

So why do they fall?

I don't even know what you're doing on this thread. This is a christian discussion ,and you don't seem to be one. The question is simple. If you believe it's a sin against God , prove it with the scriptures and if you feel it's otherwise do like wise. Now you don't believe in the christian God not the bible . . . .What doest thou hither?

Stop spuing your ignorance .

Really?

Matthew 6:23
. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

diluminati:
explain this one pastor joe, the most anointed of God. If you dodge this one, i go know sey you be one heavy bongos for real. this is a challenge (dont post that your 'dont talk to the foolish' verse oh or else you would sound like one very big dummy)

Then stop talking foolishly dear.

That's why I asked the question, why didn't the disciples fall down?