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The new system will called "gradualism" will give every one left on the earth after the rapture no choice .

Anybody can do any thing in a church . But that doesn't mean it's part of the church system. You can only judge a church by it's doctrine not by the conduct of someone there .

italo:
So why does the bible tell us to 'work out our salvation'?

"Work out" is not the same as "work for" work out is as the name goes. It's like when you go to the gym to do work out. You work out what is already in there.

As I have mentioned many times in this post, Zac Poonen made no reference to doctrine. "

He criticised those who do teaching on healing. And claimed Jesus never taught on healing. He also spoke against prosperity.

OLAADEGBU:
satan's fall could only have happened after God's creation week.

Satan was a fallen villain before the creation of Adam. Satan was not in the image of God. This new man whom God cretated was made in the image of God. Satan tricked him to fall and by that he gained authority on the earth once again.

This fable explains why you try to compromise long ages into the creation account thinking that sinful, fallible scientists were right when they assumed that the rocks and fossils were millions and billions of years old.  Now that real scientists have discovered that the earth is only about 6,000 years how will you make a U-turn knowing that you have sold your 'souls' to the uniformitarians.

Science didn't say the earth was 6000years old. Can I have a link ?

You guys should do something meaningful instead of mocking the christian faith.

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Bisola accomplice debunked here.

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babaearly:
@Joagabje
Be sincere, when you made this post who came to your mind first of all? Pastor Chris or Jesus?

Jesus  . He works through his servant.

Answer silently to yourself,

That means you don't want to hear the truth

and find out that you are just hero worshiping.

I'm not surprised at you comment. You guys only carry evil reports about christians and churches, but when someone shares testimonies of salvation and life transformation , you come labelling . I will rather take delight in sharing the advancement of the body of christ and inspire others.

The flood that destroyed that world was refered to by Peter, 

2 Peter 3:5-8
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This was not the flood of Noah , when noah's flood is been refered to , the name of Noah is mentioned. And secondly, the flood of Noah did not affect galaxy, but the pre adamite flood affected heavens and the galaxies. hence God has to create stars again. The word heavens does not refer to atmosphere, it refers to starry heavens.

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babaearly:
Christians is it proper to run publicity campaign for your pastor? as some people do here on NL,?

If you use someone's article ,it's normal to acknowledge the person. If not you people will call it plagiarism.

Is it ok to Advertise miracles as pastors are doing nowadays using billboards and adverts on the media?
But Jesus never did any of these in his time. What do you think about this?

Jesus had billboards , John the baptist was one and Jesus disciples too.

Luke 10:1
1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

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harakiri:
This is coming from someone whose sole purpose in life is to open dumb a$$ thread insulting other religious people and non-religious people.

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You can't commit fornication with your wife. But I've heard such teching, by the brahamites, they claim the fruit was sex.

This video showcase her numerous confessions.

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peckhamboi:
She confessed and moreover the producer of the video(Pastor Ladi Thompson) is a media LovePeddler who is going to do anything to get attention.

See her contradictions here

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ecenter:
I have still two scriptures to prove that the The world created in verse 3 of Genesis is the second creation. After the  first creation was marred by the  disobedience of Devil, also known as  Lucifer, God  had to create the second world.The world of Adam.''

If I may contribute to your points. One of the questions that folks who don't believe in the pre adamic world should have asked themselves is. "when did lucifer fall? ,when did he become the devil?. Was it before Adam came or after Adam came.

It is very important to note that lucifer who was an angelic ruler who ruled on earth in a world before Adam came had already fallen before Adam came.

Isaiah 14:12-14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

the highlighted part shows that there were nations on earth before lucifer fell from being lucifer. He was called lucifer before he became corrupted with pride. And lost his place. He became Satan after his fall .

Ezekiel 28:12-15
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Another question to note is the origin of demons. These were beings who had lost their bodies in the then world. Why do demons desperately want to dwell in human bodies . It is believed that These were the kind human beings who existed in that world and have lost their bodies .

When God created the world in genesis 1:1 , it was a perfect creation. With nations and cities. When lucifer corrupted himself and men on the earth in rebellion, they were destroyed by flood. All the prehistoric animals existed in this world And some fossil evidence were factual. This led to the chaotic situation in verse 2. God didn't create a chaotic world. It became chaotic.

@HISchild

The early church were meeting on Sunday's  without a doubt but that didn't change the sabath day which was meant for rest . Saturday was called sabbath day while Sunday's were called "the lords day"

Sunday is not sabbath o

ecenter:
In Genesis 1:1-2 v 1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (KJV)
v2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (KJV)

The Bible said that God created Heaven and Earth, perfectly,then the heaven was alright, but the earth was chaotic. It is believed by Biblical Scholars that there had been a world like that of Adam that existed before the creation of Adam. So the creation of the world in Gen 1:3 is called the second creation. The first was marred, that was why the Bible said that the ''Earth was without Form and void''.
Do you believe that? What is your own opinion?

Yes of course . The original creation was a perfect civilisation, God didn't create the earth void.

Isaiah 45:18
18 For Jehovah created the heavens and earth and put everything in place, and he made the world to be lived in, not to be an empty chaos. . .

The earth was not created chaotic . verse 1 of genesis I suggest a perfect creation, while verse 2 talks of chaotic situation. Which came later. Niv foot note for vese 2 says the earth possibly became void.

The missing link between verse 1and 2 is found in Jeremiah 4:23-26
Jeremiah 4:23-26
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.


That perfect world was destroyed when lucifer who was the ruler on the earth rebelled against God. Vs 3 is believed to be  a re creation by many scholars

Martian:
Not to make light of a tragedy but maybe jesus and his daddy were taking a break from human problems and playing nintendo wii. That's why the gun fired and god just ignored their all night prayers. Or maybe it's just GOD's WILL.

The problem of faith is not on Gods part.it is on mans. Part. Others have done theasame thing but have different result. For some , the armed robbers fell under the power of God eventually gave their hearts to the lord

Pastor chris explains the reason behind the Reachout campaigns . It also shows some of the charity work of cec to the nation.

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Pastor AIO:
ah ahhhhh! Joe. I didn't see any Finnish parliament in that video, or even any parliamentarian with rhapsody. You mean that if I make a youtube video claiming that I gave Jesus lessons in prayer then it must be true. Haba!

So all the parliamentarian who commented on the rhapsody with their names boldly showing are animated cartoon character , and the picture of the prime minister with rhapsody is doctored abi? You are really A case study

mabell:
@Frosbel, here is todays rhapsody

See The Right Picture – Saturday September 24, 2011 – Pastor Anita

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal (2 Corinthians 4:18).

As a Christian, you have the ability to see the unseen, and declare the end of any matter from the beginning, just like your Heavenly Father. The Bible says God quickens the dead, and calls things that be not as though they were (Romans 4:17). He framed the worlds by His Word so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear (Hebrews 11:3).

You’ve been called to live the faith-life; the Bible says, “For we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Corinthians 5:7). Now, faith means you see the end result of an issue from where you are, and then you speak it into existence. In other words, you picture the future according to the Word of God, proclaim it into being through your spirit. Refuse to acknowledge the negative picture the devil may present to you; focus on what God says about you in His Word and picture yourself that way.

If for example you’ve been suffering with an ailment, don’t look at the symptoms; contemplate your healing; see yourself healed. If you were weak in any area of your life, don’t keep thinking and talking weakness or limitations; see and declare your strength! Affirm that nothing shall be impossible unto you, for that’s the truth revealed in God’s Word about you.

Satan may sometimes show up and attempt to question your faith, asking, “Hey, are you sure those words you heard were real?” Refuse to be moved, for he’s a liar and the father of lies. He knows God’s Word about you is true otherwise he wouldn’t question it. Never find yourself struggling with your faith and doubting if what God says about you is true. God is not a man that He should lie (Numbers 23:19). His Word is absolute reality; therefore hold on to that picture of you that you see in His Word.

so what is wrong with the above?

Leave Frosbel abeg , we need to start him on abc of salavation and justification, All these are bigi girammar to religious folks like him.

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Doors of nations are being flung open by the holyghost for the gospel

This is amazing. Having devotional with rhapsody in finland parliament on regular bases.

Oui, it does. Their giving becomes stinking to the heavens. Don't you have any shame? People like you are so quick to claim Abraham's blessings,

So if a man has committed a sin as a christian , his offering has becomevan abomination? . Is that what scriptures say?
It religious people like you that see others as stains because they id wrong but you are neither perfect. You keep log in your Eyes and condemn others .

God's promises and covenant to Abraham, but you frown at his character, conduct and example, and at the examples of men of God like Elisha who had the double portion, men that walked with God.

Tell me how did I frown at his character?

@op
Wonderful message but the title seem not very appropriate . It's not how to fall but how to "stand"