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onmakpo:
GEN4:17 Says Cain met his wife and beget Enoch. Who was his wife and who were the parents of the wife since Adam and Eve were the first people created by God on this earth according to the Bible.
Its a question that has been bugging my mind

Adam and eve had another son who gave birth to other people.

Genesis 4:25
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Cain married from them. There was no incest as at that time.

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i asked you who's more blessed between you Jo and the deeper life man, and you said the man is most blessed.

Well I assumed you were talking in the light of scripture.  Because I would not have imagined you doing comparison between me and the guy "who is richer or more blessed"    Are we in competition? that's not a spiritual question , I would not have answered you if i knew that's the direction you're going. I never said CEC members are richer in things than another church. I've always said prosperity is not in "things" or material acquisition.

You confirmed that it's possible to be more blessed than you are outside the confines of YOUR theology

It's not an issue of theology, there is no theology, the word of zgod is for us all to act upon.

. What's the christian doing collecting ridiculous gifts from unbelievers? Are you a child of Abraham or of Gehazi?

God can bless us through anybody,and anyone who comes in contact with me will never be the same. if your boss gives you a raise, or you recieve a wedding gift from relatives who are Christians ,will you throw it back at their face.  Did Jesus throw the prosti.tute who poured perfume at his feet out? . God never rejected sinners in the bible who gave .so long as they do it with right intention .Queen od shebba and many others gave gifts to Solomon.

Proverbs 13:22
. . , and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.

That's the attitude that's caught up with some churches collecting tithes and offerings from known sinners.

People give tithes in their churches and if they , sin does that have anything to do with their giving? So long as they are Christians . Dont you sin?

You have your reward.

I didn't do anything for the guy , he said God told him. he is the one being blessed by the grace upon me. As i give too i get blessed. Let's end this petty talk abeg. Okay maybe what you want to hear is . You deepes are richer than we CEC , alright. So be it. I hope that makes you feel better,

Small brains ,how would they bomb redeemed camp, which is like a whole town on it's own. And have they forgotten their senior brother who tried to bomb CEC in lagos how bomb explode for hin hand. If they try to bomb CEC Abuja as they claim the bomb go explode in their factory while being loaded! .

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What scripture? Did i mention anything about anyone being poorer?

You asked me "who is more blessed between the giver and receiver"  that's scripture , then you said the deeper life brother is richer than me. Thats where you did wrong interpretation which I tried to correct.

Is all your dream about someone giving to you or your church/pastor?

Thou sayeth , All I care is souls been saved and man fulfilling their destinies. I believe in the full counsel of God. Not myopic and hypocritical view.

i've already got what i needed sha,thanks. i.e it is possible to be more blessed than you are without living in your realm.

Well I hope my explanation above clears your wrong theology .  We all have the same inheritance in christ.

Let me throw more light for you . If an unbeliever gives a gift to a christian does that make him richer than the christian? So review your theology in that light. There is no competition of wealth among us Christians , we have the same inheritance in christ. It's carnal to even imagine it.

nuella2:
Which one is pastor chris like teachings, for a man to leave his deeper life pastor and come and give in christ embassy, dont you think he has been listening to pastor chris even if he is in deeper life? Abi him pastor reject the car? .

If his pastor gives, then he should be receiving. The wealth of pastor is not by the size of his congregation as pastor chris usually teach. A pastor lives by his giving. If a pastor does not give, no matter the size of his church ,he won't be RECIEVING . The word of God is for us all to put to work

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So is it safe to assume that one can be more blessed than you in a church like deeper life without having to be saturated with pastor chris-like teachings?

You misunderstand the scripture dude. It the bible says the giver is more blessed . That doesn't mean the receiver is poorer. It simply means. That no matter how much you give, what you recieve is far greater. Get it?

Secondly it's not just about listening to pastor chris. It's about the atmosphere I carry. If I constsntly give I also constsntly recieve ,it can be from n unbeliever , God puts my desire in the hearts of men. So either he listen to pastor chris or not.  He will give to me. It is about what I'd done. If I find myself in Saudi , they will still give to me.

Yes one of them is on the ground of faith different religion.

nodogma:
[b]Some Christians believe that the world will end this year as a result of the comet Elenin.

Your title give impression as though every christian think so. Those who believe such junk are minority. The bible has a programme for the end times and it's been accurate . The end can't come for now.

However, those who wrote the bible did not even know of comets.

How much have you read your bible, what of the hail stones which God used to strike enemies of Israel

Why would Christians believe in such nonsense that this is the way the earth would end and Jesus would return?

It is not a christian belief, the bible didn't say such.

If you're not Christians ,it doesn't matter .but if you're a christian. It matters a great deal.

2 Corinthians 6:14-15
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

Check this scripture out.

Romans 16:1-2
1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:

The word "servant " suggest she was a deaconess.

It exist by principle , deaconess is a feminine part of deacon. All the people chosen for the office  were male. If a female had been among them ,she would have been called deaconess. It's simple grammar.  But later certain women function in such responsibilities such as phebe.

Question 3 – From Daminabo (Nigeria):
Sir, how do I get over my addictions? I have tried speaking to them but I am still tempted to do the same things. What should I do?

Pastor chris answer 3:
You’re not supposed to be talking or speaking to your addictions. You’re supposed to be speaking to yourself, not to your addictions; so, there’s where you were wrong. You can talk to your addictions all year long and nothing will change. You talk to yourself. Now, why that is very important, Proverbs 25: 28

“He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.”

You see, the man who has no rule over his spirit, who has no control over his spirit, is like a city that is broken down and without walls, which means ‘anything goes.’ It means anything can come in – the enemy can come into that city because the walls of the city are broken down. He that has no rule over his spirit, his own spirit, is like a city that is broken down and without walls. That’s terrible, and what’s he saying? You’ve got to have rule over your spirit, you’ve got to have control over your spirit, and you’ve got to have mastery over your spirit – that’s what his telling you.
And really, if you would study from the Bible, 2 Peter, over in the New Testament, 2 Peter Chapter 1 from verse 5:

“And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

I want you to notice in that verse 6 the word ‘temperance’ because I am going to go back in there

And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity (Love). For if these things be in you, and abound, [That means, if they are in you in increasing measure and they remain there, he says],

. . they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Then he says in verse 9:
“But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. [2 Peter 1:5-9]”

The 6th verse says “And to knowledge temperance”’ He says to you, add temperance to your life – add to your faith. When you come to Christ, you have faith; faith is given to you through the gospel. The bible says that He has given to us “the measure of faith” [Romans 12:3]. So, you receive that faith when you receive the gospel. Now he says “…add to your faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge;” and “to knowledge temperance.” You are the one to add it!

Temperance is from the Greek word, ‘egkrateia’. It means self-control; it means ‘holding yourself back,’ the ability to restrain yourself, self-restraint, self-control. Just like what we read in Proverbs Chapter 25 verse 28, where it says the man who doesn’t have rule over his on spirit is like a city that’s broken down without walls. So, you’ve got to have rule over your spirit; you’ve got to have self-control. So, that’s what it’s talking about here.
So, you must do something. You’re not going to be talking to your addictions; you’re going to be talking to yourself. You’re going to be talking to your own spirit. You’re going to be saying to yourself – “I will not do this” and when you say [that], because you have control over yourself, you’re not going to do it. So, gain the mastery over yourself. If you lose control over yourself, you’ve got a problem. It means the city’s broken down. And the beautiful thing about this is, when you receive Christ into your life, your spirit is enabled with certain qualities, and I want to read those qualities to you. Remember what we read about temperance.

So, we go over to Galatians Chapter number 5, I’m reading to you from the 22nd verse, “But the fruit of the Spirit…,” this is the recreated human spirit, the born again spirit. He says “But the fruit of the Spirit is love”: the fruit – that means it’s there, it’s the product of the spirit; it’s the work of the Spirit. In the 19th verse it says “Now the works of the flesh are manifest,…” and it gives us the works of the flesh which means the fruits of the flesh. Then, he comes over to verse 22 and tells us of the spirit, because it’s a comparison of the spirit and the flesh. So, he comes over to verse 22 and says “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [verse 23] meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [Galatians 5:22-23]” Temperance – self-control – which means you’ve got it in your spirit. You cannot say “I have no rule over my spirit, I have no self-control, I can’t do this” No, no no. You can, because you’re born again. If you’re born again, he says “the fruit of the spirit is” and he tells you all of them; they’re all in there, in you – it’s a product of your spirit.

So, you say this “I have self-control and I’m going to put it to work. I have temperance and I’m going to put it to work. I can rule over my own spirit and I’m going to do it. ” So, that’s the talking you’re supposed to do, not to talk to the addictions but to your own spirit.

Ok , I go, but tell Frosbel I'm waiting outside, if he has 2heads let him come out of the house.

The more famous you are the less freedom you have. You tell me where he is driving to? 2cars are even too much.

dare2think:
Dude, if Jesus if coming soon, pls tell me what a man is ammasing 30 cars for?

Do you need a prophet to tell it's not true. Does pastor chris drive cars? Where is he driving to? His studio is in church compound ,his office is in church compound , he stays in church compound ,where is he driving to? . Supermarket ? Or America ? Or from bathroom to toilet. These are childish tales. Pastor chris definitely recieves a lot of gifts , plus cars , and he gives out too? If for any reasons those cars are his, they are awaiting being given out. Because he himself doesn't drive and he has no place to go to. If a man who probably has received hundreds of cars, why will people be concerned with just 30?

debosky:
Dunno why Joeagbaje needs to bring his 'l theories' to ruin a good discussion.
For simplicity, I think a separate thread should be created to discuss this 'world before Adam' topic.

But that's where the answer lies. Science could be wrong in many things but in this regard , science is right. Except you don't want truth. Ok I back off. You and Frosbel enjoy your chat

frosbel:
Not forgetting that before the earth was made, the initial entity was a cosmic mess. I cannot be presumptuous to suggest what existed on this entity if any at all.

What made it a cosmic mess? did God create a mess?

Isaiah 45:18
18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Jeremiah 4:23-26
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.

When did lucifer rebel against God? Before or after Eden?

When was lucifer rebellion against God? Before Eden or after?

Jesus is coming soon .  some spend precious time in criticism While others spend time and money working for Jesus. Watch this video and be inspired.

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debosky:
The RATE scientists say their work shows that the geological column is no older than 100,000 years old right? If we accept this work as true, 100,000 is still nowhere near 6,000 - yes it is closer to 6,000 than millions of years, but even if we get a date of 10,000 years, that still means the bible will be 'wrong' if we accept those that insist that the earth is roughly 6,000 years old.

The bible never says the earth is 6,000 years old . It is an assumption. The 6,000 years counting is only from Adam . But the earth existed several millions of years before Adam. There was a world before Adam was created. They were destroyed by flood. Thats where the pre historic animal existed. Lucifer was the ruler of that world .the demon spirit on the earth today were humans that time.

. . , Don’t get tired of helping others. You will be rewarded when the time is right, if you don’t give up (Galatians 6:9 CEV).

Being prosperous means a lot more than amassing material wealth; it involves being able to take care of yourself and help others. The Bible says:

“And God is able to make all grace (every favor and earthly blessing) come to you in abundance, so that you may always and under all circumstances and whatever the need be self-sufficient [possessing enough to require no aid or support and furnished in abundance for every good work and charitable donation]. As it is written, He [the benevolent person] scatters abroad; He gives to the poor; His deeds of justice and goodness and kindness and benevolence will go on and endure forever! (2 Corinthians 9:8-9 AMP).

A prosperous man finds true joy and excitement in being able to reach out and extend love to others. He’s of a benevolent spirit, quick to give, and derives satisfaction from helping others become prosperous. So if you want to know someone who is truly successful, find out how many people he has helped to become successful.
 
Some people however have had terrible experiences in trying to help others. They helped people start out well in life, probably helped them start up a business, only for those they helped to eventually turn against them. So they got bitter and decided never to help anyone anymore. No. That’s not the way of Christ. Luke 6:35 says,

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.”

Don’t get bitter to the point you give up helping others, even when they prove to be undeserving of your help. Your unique gift is in your ability to render help to others and help them make their dreams come true, in spite of themselves. The Bible says:

“…if you have the gift of helping others, do it with the strength that God supplies…” (1 Peter 4:11 CEV).

Keep helping others, whether or not they remember you or reciprocate your kindness. As you do, God will keep increasing you and multiplying your ability to be a blessing. Don’t let fear, doubt, unbelief, resentment, and bitterness hinder you from your ministry as a blesser, a giver and lifter of others. Always be excited and exuberant with faith, knowing that God is the one who rewards you for your kindness and labour of love towards others.

Prayer

Dear Father, thank you for the opportunity I have to help others and make their dreams come true. I recognize this unique gift today and do it consciously with the strength you supply me, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

There are three sources of dreams . God, Devil, and your flesh. If you have a bad dream from the devil, you can cancel it by your words, and say "I reject this, . " then speak the oppsite. If it's death . "say I reject death,I shall not die in the NSME of Jesus " If it's another person you saw, pray for that person. "it is well with so and so, I rebuke death ,accident whatever from him/her"

Some other dreams don't have meaning. They probably come from our interactions , books, tv etc.

Ecclesiastes 5:3
3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.

There are dreams that come from God, you should thank God for them. And confess the good things there. "lord I recieve . . ."

But if there is a dream you don't understand , just leave it. If God is Good enough to give a dream ,he will be good enough to give the meaning. It may not be immediate . Sometimes you get to know the meaning when it is fulfilled .

He's against the the christ that he thinks he defends. You don't have to attack other faiths or other religions to make christ known. Salvation and conviction is by the spirit. Just preach Jesus. Let the holyghost do his work. You may do well by attacking Mohamed and Koran , you can win the award of a basher but you are alone ,God is not with you in a fleshly fight.  The gospel is communicated by love, one of the rules in evangelism is "never attack religious leaders"  it will only stir offence, anger and defence. What a fruitless labour.

2 Timothy 2:24-26
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Titus 3:2-3
2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. 3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

I'd have thought that as a typographic error but knowing your ilk, i know it's deliberate of you to gain popularity and attention by controversy and ludicrous statements.

Take it easy with me ,you don't have to use hard word to communicate . I may be right ,you may be right. I may say things in a way to get people's attention to what I'm saying but not to get popularity.

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The baptism of the Holy Ghost is NOT the same thing as been born again.

.Salvation is baptism. The holyghost baptised us into christ. that is what I refer to as baptism of the holyghost.

1 Corinthians 12:13
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

What people generally call baptism of the holyghost is actually an infilling. So at salvation the holyghost is already in us. But the infilling hadnt taken place until we ask to be filled, then empowerment takes place.

So when jesus breathed the holyghost upon them , salvation took place, but the infilling took place later with tongues of fire at Pentecost.

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What do you think Jo. Who's more blessed in you who received the car, and in the deeper man who gave you the car?

He is most blessed of course.and he knows. That is scriptural truth , he had been doing things like this , and he knows the principles . He shared strange testimonies with me .

Yes he said God led him to give me. I almost cried on the road , I was short of words To even pray for him. I only manage to mutter " my soul bless you" may God surprise you" I was not well coordinated but he understood .

Carbon dating is correct, the earth is millions or billions of years old.

JeSoul:
A joke that has stopped being funny for a while now. I dunno if you've noticed but many regulars have left.

Moderators should enforce compliance to rules. I know few people who had left posting here, because the place doesn't look too responsible for their liking. If the moderators abide and follow rules as in any forum all over the world, more responsible people will have respect for the forum.

plappville:
Amen, God bless all of u that contributed to his work Amen.

Congratulations, may God continually use you