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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:50am On Aug 31, 2022
DanieleLorenzo:
From a neutral perspective, bants aside, Chelsea's only problem is creativity and finishing. Una defence dey managable at worst. See Havertz missing two clear chances. The first he was so sluggish but I'll say because he was on the left wing. The second, he received the ball on the right wing, for him to cut in immediately, he opted to drag the ball straight ahead. The most annoying part of this is that a certain havertz10 will still have the guts to defend him even compare him to a certain "pace merchant" grin grin.
I don talk this thing tire but dem hens.ben and co said dem need to replace Christensen and Rudiger before anything else (like say Koulibaly never replace Rudiger). They can keep on blaming Silva and co when they're still parading dem Havertz while still not sorting out their Midfield, na dem sabi grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:44am On Aug 31, 2022
Now that Chelsea have dropped 3points ystdy, we need to capitalise with a win please. Thank goodness it's our home, let's just get the 3points in any way we can even if na 1-0.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:28am On Aug 31, 2022
Spy360:
Zinchenko can't play DM he is an 8. The closest to that position now is Lokonga then White. We can only hope White is better there. The good part is that we play Aston Villa first at home so we can try both. But I think White will suit more because of his combined defensive and attacking attributes.
The closest we have is never ever Lokonga. Abeg no talk that thing biko embarassed

I saw Zinchenko play deep and positionally stopped some attack against Bournemouth. Why i believe he might not be good as a lone 6 but as a pivot he might try cos he's good with buildup from deep too and he's hardly a roamer. White too is another possibility I would love as Tomiyasu can seamlessly play that RB role without any drop in quality and I hope Arteta tries it.

But abeg, no Sambi DM abeg. The way our Midfield go turn expressway again, I can't fit talk. Make we no go dash Aston Villa their first 3point because of am
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:19am On Aug 31, 2022
timbros:
Players mentality is utterly rubbish. This is why I don't blame the coach.

Man City have come from 2 goals down twice and got something from the game. In those two matches, watch the response from City players. Their opponent never rested till the game end. Look at how they were bombarding Palace till Haaland got his hattrick. Compare that game to the casual nonsense game we played last night.

So the coach is expected to come inside the pitch and literally direct the players how to play? As kids wey dem be. Without being told, they don't know the urgency on hand? I just can't get it.

Even Liverpool came back against Fulham to salvage a point. The players worked hard to get that point. Klopp didn't need to do anything out of the ordinary but the boys dug deep, work their socks off to get the result. Why can't Chelsea players show same determination?

Even Man Utd we love to troll didn't concede against this same Southampton few days ago, in this same St Mary.

The coach will do his best in selection and tactics, but when the players decide to down tools inside the pitch, whatever the coach did prematch is rubbish.
Actually, I blame the coach. You don't even need to change 9 players but at least 3-4 mentality players and that team will change. Bench Havertz for broja who is hungry for a start let's see

Another thing is that, he has the power to change most of these weaklings but he still persisted with them. This is something that the players exhibit consistently yet he still persisted with them. Take Ten Haag for example. After the first 2 matches in which Man u players showed signs of weakling and lack of desire for a fight, he ditched most. Varane for Maguire, Mctominay for Fred and Malacia for Shaw, and you could see the big difference and fight in their next two matches. In fact, with the introduction of Casemiro for Mctominay, that'll be another elite mentality monster.

So you can't solely blame the players completely absolve the coach when the coach have the power to create a group of strong mentality players that can create something but no, he still persists with weaklings but expects different results. Klopp and Pep will surely do something unlike Tuchel
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:02am On Aug 31, 2022
hopefulLandlord:
isn't it strange how people keep saying this when it's blatantly wrong? how can someone say Chelsea were leading 3-0 and bottled it when in reality he bottled a single goal lead on aggregate? which coach hasn't against Madrid? even Pep bottled a two goal lead with 2 minutes of regulation time to go same season and same stadium
The thing with this thread be say they'll keep on saying and hammering on something until it turns the truth. Just watch out by next year and see how some other posters will start saying Tuchel bottled a 3 goal lead against Madrid grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:55am On Aug 31, 2022
iamoyindamola:
Spy360
Come and see something grin grin
I was about calling him too sef grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:39pm On Aug 30, 2022
Kilishihunter:
Trey wey go always dey shout we are back, we are back but them still go lu le the next matchday, The juju wey him carry for benin too strong for am
But I still never see anybody wey beat this jinx for FT
Na so him go dey laff Arsenal last season talk say "shit team, shit coach, can't score a goal after 2 matches, best players want to leave". Exactly a year later, naso Man u come dey experience everything. The way arsenal drag am for twitter before Liverpool match ehh grin


Omo, but who be this lord of jinx?? Nobody fit beat am I swear. Not even one favor Chelsea seff grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:26pm On Aug 30, 2022
CAPdan21:
I go soon dey send am money make he dey prophesy for our opponents... grin grin
hahahaha grin grin grin

No time! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:18pm On Aug 30, 2022
Unlimited22:
You dey use Twitter regularly?

My guy dey channel UTDTrey
This guy na another jinx lord grin grin

Another funny dude wey him talks deh always backfire grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:11pm On Aug 30, 2022
CAPdan21:
grin cheesy grin...this anointing must not go to waste
if you like make Una go dull unaselves, me I wan start to follow am grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:10pm On Aug 30, 2022
Tuchel: We will build a team that nobody wants to play against

The team he's building grin grin cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:03pm On Aug 30, 2022
Trevor012:
Bleep up . We nor see am.
E be like say I go start to follow whodey.hause From now on oo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:57pm On Aug 30, 2022
WhoDeyHause:
You people should please wait. We have our match to look to. When we finish flogging Southampton you people can continue.
Another sure odds we missed today.

This guy can make someone a millionaire, Una no wan hear grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:54pm On Aug 30, 2022
Ellexy:
Shaa so many positives from this game..I'm just in awe about Havertz's generational talent, holy boly boy's unplayable, making so many runs, disrupting opposition defenders...

I'm sure if Gordons come, both of them will cook.
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:51pm On Aug 30, 2022
wman:
Kai Haverts vs Southampton:

• 90 minutes played
• 0 goals
• 0 assists
• 0 shots on target
• 0/2 dribbles completed
• 0 crosses
• 0 long balls
• 0 aerial duels won
• 0 interceptions
• 1 tackle won
• 1 big chance missed
• 10x possession lost
Our generational talent player grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:39pm On Aug 30, 2022
Bluelines69:
Jesus over Sterling, Arsenal got the better city player
No allow Capaldi see this oo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:30pm On Aug 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
If say na Pep or Klopp side dey trail like this with 10mins to go, the opposition goal and penalty box would be under serious bombardment

But na Tuchel
Later dem go blame pep for using the money to buy league.

Same money now, naim dem deh use but defenders in order to defend one goal.

No be by who get money las las, na by who fit spend am well grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:27pm On Aug 30, 2022
donstan18:
See Wetin? Lol. Relax, mugu Na mugu.

Silva is done and dusted. He was superb and good during our UCL win, he’s not that Silva anymore.
The mugu was there when you guys won Leicester without koulibaly.

I don tell Una say as long as Una dey parade that stupid Havertz and clueless Midfield, other teams will be happy. Silva might not be the Silva you know but in scale of preference, he's one of the least of the problems
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:23pm On Aug 30, 2022
youngZee23:
Silva don save chelsea..see as mendy dey watch am..
NinjaXmetahuman:
Silva to the rescue again
Dem Donstan no go see this one oo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:21pm On Aug 30, 2022
Unlimited22:
I actually don't speak Yoruba bar the few words picked up from NL and Twitter
Lol, I know.

Na the "Omo" weh you start with then come use Igbo continue am. Na the first time I deh see that kain thing grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:11pm On Aug 30, 2022
Unlimited22:
See Havertz

Omo, o nweghị ebe anyị ji azụ aga
Lol, doctor dey speak Igbo and Yoruba together? grin

This wan don touch you for marrow be that grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:54pm On Aug 30, 2022
Raumdeuter, you see say your criteria no hold water for Modric being a great player with your agenda criteria shey??

You couldn't even name on thing you can point to that he achieved in any finals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:45pm On Aug 30, 2022
CAPdan21:
Ride on bro...we dey your back for ammunition if necessary
Lol.. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:33pm On Aug 30, 2022
CAPdan21:
Assist record dey cover Kdb but Henry with Euros and CL won on the field na local champion...Wonderment
Lol, I go soon enter this one with time.

I want make him tell me how Modric he great player according to him criteria
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:27pm On Aug 30, 2022
CAPdan21:
Leave modric first and focus your torch on the Belgian albino and you'll see how the Amala go turn 360 degree just now...
Him don use assist record take cover Kdb. I wan see wetin him wan talk with Modric
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:24pm On Aug 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
Is a midfielder rated by goals?
Oh, but you used Zidane 2 world cup final goals and UCL final goal as his achievements to be great shebi? You don forget say him be Midfielder?

So wetin you want make we use validate say Modric great?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:17pm On Aug 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
Performance in multiple CL finals as one
Goals in any of the finals to validate his performances??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:14pm On Aug 30, 2022
johnjunior39:
I dont fancy this purchase honestly, I mean I see reasons why omari had to leave. We just got Marquinhos, how will he grow if you dont give him playing time, Reiss Nelson is there oo.

What is the probability that he will come good?
This club don't rate Reiss Nelson sha and it's obvious.

I think they want to buy him to compete with Saka same way ESR is competing with Martinelli.

I haven't watched Omari game but are you sure he can take over that RW spot if Saka gets injured cos I think that's where the club is thinking
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:10pm On Aug 30, 2022
iamoyindamola:
Yeah Danilo
We talked about him here na
Lol, I don forget oo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:08pm On Aug 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
Great player
So What criteria did you to grade him so?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:55pm On Aug 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
For a player to be called a great you need to point to your biggest achievement. World cup or CL final stage are the biggest

Some did not achieve that e.g Alan Shearer but his record in the English league will always be pointed to hen discussing his creds
Okay.

So how will you grade someone like Modric. Great player or not?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:47pm On Aug 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
Big players rise to big occasions and not hide from it. Zidanes greatest moments are not from what he did vs Lecce or what he did vs Osasuna but we all remember his double in a world cup final, His Leverkusen goal in a CL final. We remember Ronaldo Limas double in a world cup final.

Big games make big players
I don't want us to deviate from the main koko sha. The poster you gave this reply was telling you that you shouldn't use only finals to rate player and this was your response.

So I ask(using your criteria), what big occasions did Kdb and Lewy rise to that made you call them big players using your examples. I mean, what can we remember that as their greatest moments in big occasions as you put it??

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