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AnfieldFan:
Messi's was a big chance too. He got played in behind the defense, moved a few feet with the ball, placed it on his favoured left foot before blazing across the goal post...

Messi was charged down, the angle was slightly narrow. For messi quality he should have scored but nobody will blame him for missing cos that can happen. It's easier for messi to miss than to score in that angle. Same can't be said of Higuain whose own was easier to score than to miss

raumdeuter:
Shikena

If you agree to the bold then we dont have issues. Copa fit dey puff chest beside AFCON and CONCACAF cup but when Euro reach make he calm down and pick his position

The competitiveness and quality is not vast oo. Is just like difference between EPL and la liga. And just as time difference affects la liga to most match watchers is how it affects copa too. Abi you think say if their matches is aired during the day most fans across Europe and Africa won't watch it thus increasing its viewership?

raumdeuter:
They are 10 countries so dem kukuma let everyone play
And last summer in a group, 4 teams qualify for knockout.
Allison won what was available but doesnt still make it a top tournament, Man City plays Carabao and win it. They jubilate but does not make Carabao equal to league title

If its the prerogative of the body to schedule it every weekend, then its the prerogative of the watchers to laugh at it

We noticed these things but we never knew there will be people who followed football and wont know that Copa is below Euros

Its like someone arguing that Concacaf Champions League is of same quality as UEFA Champions League just because its the top club competition in CONCACAF

This is different cos top players test themselves in cl. All the best and supposed best players play in the cl cos it's a given. But you can't tell me someone like messi or cavani or Suarez will play in euros to test themselves.

Moreover, I hardly see top players in the continent(maybe aside Brazil) that request not to play in the competition.
From cavani to Suarez to messi... They all crave to play in that competition

Spy360:
Thank you. Usmanov dey learn for where Kroenke dey. SK knew what he wanted and was ruthless in the takeover. That's what I expected AU to have done.

You think if Dein brought Usmanov first instead of SK you go dey talk this thing??

Spy360:
Dein brought Usmanov and helped him became major shareholder. All expected Usmanov to launch a takeover but he was foot dragging until Kroenke came into the scene with big money.

That's what I was saying but you guys failed to see my point.

I demand an unreserved apology.

Taah, which apology ? Dein first brought SK into the picture, when he saw things wasn't going the way he envisaged he brought up Usmanov by then it was too late. Na wetin we dey tell you since na

iamoyindamola:
I'm actually pained right now
I have always thought dein retired I don't think he followed us to Emirates sef.
The whole management board went down the hill when dein left
Chai

Me two, I thought dein left on his own accord at first especially as Wenger was pleading let them get dein back. Sha see were our arsenal don reach na

patrickmuf:
The quality of COPA America is poor compared to the EUROS how? The Euros is well publicized and they have got a lot of money and that's where it ends...

A continental competition that has Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Neymar, Di Maria, T. Silva, Allison (G), E. Martinez (G), Emiliano Martinez, Cuadrado, Valverde, Casemiro and a host of others can not be short of quality...

Most top Europeans teams have South Americans among their best players...But some how, a competition where all these array of stars represent their country is of low quality...

Nothing person no go read for Nairaland...

Like e just dey shock me

As like saying Belgium have stars but the national team no good

raumdeuter:
Copa is the equivalent of the Euros but its not equal in quality

If Hazard cannot win the world cup, At least he should win the Euros

For a South American you have to win the world cup the next thing you can win is the Copa since you cannot win Euro and AFCON
For an African player after world cup next thing is Nations cup, Will that make Nations cup equal to Euro in quality

This your take is like saying since Dortmund can't win cl then they should win their league while still claiming that bundesliga is sh*t cos it's not as competitive or has more quality as EPL.

While I agree Euros is more competitive than Copa, but then that doesn't mean copa is sh*t na. Most world cup, at least a copa country will reach semi final even tho they've only 5 representatives. How then can you call their tournament useless cos of how their governing body deem it fit to schedule it

BlueRayDick:
https://arsedevils.com/arsenal-change-ownership-truth/

CC: Spy360 , Jodera , iamoyindamola please read this and let me know what u think

Lol... I won't entirely blame Dein sha, he had the insight to know where the world of football is heading to and wanted arsenal to be at the forefront. The big mistake was bringing in SK which I feel he didn't do his homework well. If he'd first brought Usmanov instead of SK and his plan worked out, he'll be able to attract both the best players cos we have the cash and brand and also the potential best players cos we have the eyes in dein. But that singular act of bringing SK spoilt everything.

Chai... See where arsenal is now cos of that costly decision

iamoyindamola:
E be like say I no mind make them sack Arteta to have him and saliba back

iamoyindamola:
I no know na
E pain me sha, David dein collaboration with wengay was the reason we were successful na, it's as if we gay lost if when he was sacked(another suprise).
This man no they dull with transfer, very ruthless
He and the scout will find cheap prospect from anywhere
They got cesc, Reyes and rvp raw and hungry

I swear, I later realised that he was Wenger backbone after Wenger started stuttering after his departure

Actually, he saw how football world was going and I loved his insight but I feel he made the wrong move wen he brought in SK. By the time he realized his mistake and brought and backed in usmanov it was too late, the devil had already gotten the cake. Forget, SK na correct business man... For him to buy out arsenal why claiming silent Stan na wash

There's a reason why Walmart still dey in existence

Skimpledawg:
I curse Higuain tire that day. Messi played his life on that pitch.

Man wanted that Gold medal badly.

It felt so bad.

Lol... E no too vex me sha cos I supported my boy Ozil then

As higuain missed that chance, I just knew god of soccer was on Germany side. Wen palacio missed his, e just confirm am

AnfieldFan:
Argentina missed three chances to score
Higuain
Pallacio
Messi himself...
Remember, Messi missed before Germany scored so your above scenario still applies, blaming Higuain alone reeks of agenda...

I'm talking of big chances here not half chance. Messi's chance wasn't a big chance while palacio own was in extra time (even tho his own is a big chance too)

Higuain own was as clear as Kai own, the only difference between Kai and higuain own is just one have a keeper and the other didn't. Even Chelsea missed chance against man city in the final but none was clean and clear like havertz own. I wouldn't have begrudge Higuain if it wasn't a clear big chance

BlueRayDick:
https://arsedevils.com/arsenal-change-ownership-truth/

CC: Spy360 , Jodera , iamoyindamola please read this and let me know what u think

okay... Lemme read it, and share my thoughts

iamoyindamola:
I think I saw Jerry curl win nations league

Ehen na.
He was called in the squad

iamoyindamola:
Bro you see the situation in arsenal it's the more you look the less you see
So David dein that I hold in high regard was the asshole that brought SK to our lives but he redeemed himself by selling his shares to usmanov, I never knew he was sacked.
As for wengay I will continue to hate that old miserable man for his hypocrite part
Fir kroneke, roland17 has always hinted us about the man.
Person that doesn't know the colour of arsenal jersey, he's a typical American they prefer NFL and NBA

Still reading, I will be back to modify

Lol.. I said so here na. It was dein that brought SK and usmanov, wen he that arsenal was not going the way he expected he left (abi sacked)

Jodera:
This was the plan of David dein, reason why he introduced Kroenke and Usmanov. It is very unfortunate we fell into Kroenke hands instead of usmanov

And the stupid Kroenke been no wan sell am to usmanov wen usmanov dey interested

afrodoc2:
You see as patrick attack me?

I was just trying to defend Enrique’s record o. You know I no like trouble.

Haba doc!!

AnfieldFan:
Bro, we are almost always on the same side of things While I have no dog in this fight; are you laying the entire blame of Argentina's inability to win that final on Higuain's feet?

Little things can change a whole lot of things. There's high possibility that match would have ended 1-0 in normal time if higuain have slotted that chance.

In context, it's like saying havertz lost that golden chance in champions league last season after rounding up the keeper then missing the empty net. If during the extra time, man city goes on to score a goal and win, no how I won't blame Havertz for costing them the UCL

raumdeuter:
Did your team Chelsea not collect 6-0 abi no be Watford dem dey beat 6-0 regular? 2 seasons ago Southampton actually chopped 9-0 twice. If you are forgetful some of us are not



Mention the number of times 2 Serie A teams have met in the CL final in the last 20yrs


Rather it shows that Argentina is useless, Argentina didnt win but Chile was winning




That is why sense of discernment is needed. beating Liverpool is 3 points equals beating Norwich which is 3 points yet everyone sensible viewer knows that one if more difficult to achieve than the other

While Copa and Euro are continental championship and equal, we know some are more equal than others

But all your subsequent post during that time proved that copa was as equal as euros.
Dinho won u17 world cup with Brazil if I'm not mistaken, yet you didn't include it when listing his intl honors. For you to include copa to his list of honors shows how you valued it in Intl level as a big one. In context wen even listing hazard's honors in EPL, you shunned his Carling and fa cup.

So how come same copa that's equivalent like euros in which you dared hazard to win (its equivalent of course) suddenly now less equal than euros

Skimpledawg:
That final still dey pain me for soul.

I was wrapping off Nysc year that year naso I placed bet of 50k say Argentina win o

As dem lose that match naso I enter Agofure for park find my way enter East

Messi's GOAThood for no get question

All thanks to higuain.
It's no coincidence that Argentina won a trophy after my guy retire from national team else that di maria chance him for troway am again

afrodoc2:
Very true. But remember that Zidane had the luxury of the deadliest knockout stage scorer in Champion’s League history while Enrique’s best player was more prolific in the group stages.

Wahala!!

Spy360:
The initial months after the take over fans were happy to have a millionaire owner hoping to be like Chelsea. That's until they experienced the first TW under Kroenke. When Kroenke took over I and the fans around were hopeful of someone bankrolling the club, but were left disappointed after the first TW. That's fact for me, probably you too if you can recall.

Actually, I never knew of any fan that was happy. Kroenke didn't even make mouth that he'll do so and so in the club(like pump in money to get the best players), also Wenger was still there saying no money no money. I wonder wen Abrahamovic took over, the manager at that time was still saying no money no money . Take a look at Newcastle coach, he's already afraid cos he knows his days are over. He's already scheduled a meeting with the owners


Moreover, Kroenke aligned with Wenger's and the board thoughts which is following due process for success and not the contrasting opinion of Usmanov who wanted sharp sharp success and not buying supposed players cos of some few extra quids!

Spy360:
I don't know why you guys are defending Usmanov. Was he not a major shareholder even before Kroenke? Why didn't he bless us with money? I guess you may say he wasn't the sole owner, but so what? Has he ever been a sole owner? If you say politics, wasn't Abrahamovic under the same political conditions as he when he bought Chelsea? He had the chance to effect a takeover and he didn't. Forget politics biko, it's a game play it. We can give excuses for anything and everything. But as far as I am concerned, those excuses don't hold water. Because people under similar conditions have achieved more.

I point is clear.

Lol... You asked a question in bolded and yet you still answered it. When someone is among the board of trustees who are making sole decisions in a company or organization, one man can't influence any proceedings unless he buys it all to become Major share holder and sole owner. Lol, you saying I should forget politics won't cut it cos it's not as if he just folded his arms. He indeed decided to effect a takeover but he wasn't given. He has a different ideas with the other members thus they don't want him, what do you want him to do? I don't know how this is hard to comprehend cos all the info is laid bare for you.

Okay, lemme use this scenario. A house is up for sale and the cost was let say 25m naira. At first it was fair and open bidding but wen I saw you clearly had the money to buy it out, I met with the agent or owner secretly to help me get the house. The owner then brought a law that the house can only be sold for persons under the age of 30 and that he must be from so so state. All these knowing fully well that you didn't meet any of the criteria and that it favors me.

Tell me, if you really needed that house, will you keep quiet and move on? Knowing fully well that

1.. the exact location you wanted that house and the spec is what the house had.

2... You know some shady stuff happened underground which wasn't in place before.

I want to hear your answers sha

airmark:
The battle is on between the 2 Copa America gladiators.

AFRODOC2 vs RAUMDEUTER

Entering the ring first is Epileptic Apari, the Amala turner, Raumdeuter.





His opponent, 'Small doctor' Afrodoc2, is already climbing the speakers and will join us in the ring soon.

Wahala ni yen

How raum.deuter wan escape for this tree wey you tie am now?

ItisHi:
that's not a win in my book

Lol... Your book no get the recommended course outlines then. Go change am

ItisHi:
una neva fit beat CAR na Brazil and co Una want win.

The CAR we won in our last meeting or which one?

nitrogen:
Lol, so, for him to win something for his country, they decided to hold Copa competition every year……wow.

Which kind malaga be that?

Lol.. Before messi, they been deh hold am every year, so no be new thing na

iamoyindamola:
Bros it's like Nigeria playing euro 2024 na

Lol.. But on a more serious note, our fa suppose bid for slot for next edition of copa esp the one wey fall near world cup.
So in case we no carry afcon, we fit carry their copa participate for confederation cup

After all, any way na way

BlueRayDick:
There's nothing u will tell spy that will make him agree with u or shift ground a bit. He usually holds what he believes to the heart and will not look at the merit of ur argument before rail-roading u into another corner. Article clearly stated that about the time Usmanov declared his interest the board came up with an unfavorable policy that obviously was targeted at him, yet spy is saying Usmanov should have declared interest earlier.

Everybody knows politics played major role in the reason why Kroenke is at the helms of affairs now and not Usmanov. See Abrahmovic that was successful in piloting chelsea to great heights with his investment in the country, see wetin dem still dey follow am drag.

Lol.. Where I know Spy lost the argument was when he said fans were happy that Kroenke took over. Like which fans . The time wey kroenke took over was same time arsene Wenger was saying arsenal no get money to fight other clubs in the transfer window sef

I just feel Spy didn't follow the Usmanov event else he won't be saying all those things and holding onto that preconceived opinion he had

iamoyindamola:
You know home based Nations cup it's more competitive than that Copa America.
Who ever advised them to invite countries from another continent is high on Cali white

Sod Sod!!!
Be calming down brother

airmark:
Raumdeuter closed that our argument that year by equating Copa America to Euros.

As it stands now today, it's

Afrodoc2 vs Raumdeuter


AFRODOC2: Copa America is not equivalent to Euro cup.

RAUMDEUTER: Copa America is equivalent to Euro cup.

afrodoc2:
The award did not exist. So that can’t be used to judge. It’s like in 40 yrs there is an award for top footballers called Toto Smasher Award and people start criticising Messi, Pele, Maradona for not winning it

Between 1958 and 1970 there is a strong case for Pele winning World’s Best in 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1970.

He would have won at least 5 out of those 9 as we all know those awards are partly popularity contests.

However that is not really an issue as the parameters should be that apply to all contestants.

Oh wow!!
I never knew it didn't exist then.

Toto smasher award , you and raum.deuter never cease to add funny punchlines to your post most times

Anyways GOAT is arguably between messi Ronaldo maradona and Pele(in no particular order ranking). Anyone they give most won't begrudge it I think