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Nostradamus1:
Klopp used this team to reach Europa league final but Ole has Ronaldo and Pogba and Bruno and still can't win carabao

No firmino, no sturridge, no lovren, no Henderson. And we're to believe that's an Original first 11?

Calm down na!

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typicalgamer:
That’s what they said about QPR in 2012, money alone won’t win you a champions league

The difference between man city and QPR was that QPR was buying expired stars who have passed their sell date.
With the kind of money that Newcastle have(even richer than PSG, man city and Chelsea owners) they'd be foolish to tow that path.
If they don't buy the chiesa and haaland of this world then they're foolish

BlueRayDick:
The annoying thing is all these billionaires pump in good money to back their clubs and the fans are happy about it.....our own billionaire dey tell us to trust one rubbish process.

Shebi if woman husband dey do rubbish the woman can divorce and be on her own to attract sugar daddy. Shey this man no go leave arsenal and allow sugar daddies out there to help our case?

Na wetin dey pain me, all these billionaires go pump big money and the club go leave us, see as man city don turn our seniors.

Lol @the bolded, even wen at least small sugar daddy been come in Sportify CEO, our darling husband gree divorce us. Seems him don sign for better worse, for worse with us

BlueRayDick:
As I want and predicted it ; Tomiyasu is our player of the month .....And it's just his first month at the club

Well deserved.
I expected it too. Followed the step of Gabriel who won it on his first month at the club as well

BlueRayDick:
Top 10 richest football owners ; na all of them dey pump good money into the club to make quality signings except Arsenal 4cking owner

Even the chink that owns Wolves Don nearly sign all the talent wey dey Portugal finsh.....

The God that delivered Newcastle from Mike Ashley can do it for us too! Somebody say Amen!

Lol... Las las arsenal is surely one position away from top four be that. Once Newcastle start pumping money in transfer market, even big 6 dem no go dey call us again.

Make arsenal and the board still dey talk about long term planning

##Long term planning in da mud##

mostob:
i believe he is still a work in progress. Apart from Martinelli, Nelson own pain me too...I heard he is injured currently.

Me na martinelli own dey pain me pass. That guy hardly gives subpar performances anytime he comes on, it's so sad seeing him out of the radar especially wen the left wing spot is up for grabs

daveP:
One journo suppose ask. Especially as they ask about injured players. But na dem sabi.

Seeing the idea outside that England's future is in Arsenal's hands, especially if DCL comes around to make it 5 key squad players. Any other team got that much, especially in their XI? None!

Man u?? No

Amoto94:
Just because Anelka played in a two striker formation with Drogba doesn't make him an attacking midfielder just like how Lewandowski played with Barrios as the second striker. Firmino is an attacking midfielder just like Iheanacho who can play as a false 9 in a two striker formation he played this role with Volland at Hoffenheim. He is a system player and a key component of his team's success, anyone arguing otherwise is trying to be clever by a half.

Raum.deuter just no wan gree

pu7pl3:
Vinicius is better than Chiesa

Lol.... Just Lol

Greatihex:
They just can't stay one place.

Lol... You don see am na

daveP:
I'd take DCL. Powerful finisher, creative in tight corners. That's close enough to a Laca. Don't know if he's good at the holdup play though...

He's also good in the air too, he's good at hold up play but not too great sha. Fair point for DCL tho.

daveP:
I expect the journos to keep asking this Manager about Martinelli always. Its like he's been forgotten in one corner.

Lol... Journos can't ask about him. He's not a star boy nor an academy england player like saka. If he was bought with big money then they would, so nothing concern journos concern martinelli

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You brought Abraham as a comparison.

I showed you his stats and asked if you would be sold out with that. The same you have found a way to tell us why you would not buy the Tammy's agenda that you brought forward.

Wonderful

This is not the first time Klopp does this. He accommodates you till he finds a replacement, then he relegates you to the bench, and then you leave. In all of these, he keeps praising you endlessly

I hope Firminho finds his way to Arsenal, so he can link up your forwards. Since na him calling be that [/color]

There was a reason I brought Abraham and that's because minus his goals, his all round play isn't good. One thing I watch mostly about strikers (esp nowadays) is all round play. I prefer a striker whose all round play is great and can guarantee me 15goals a season than a 25-30goal a season striker whose all round play is poor

Meanwhile if firmino come arsenal, na Am we go play am make him link up with our forwards

izzou:
[color=royalblue]And I ask you again if you would automatically be sold out on a 22 year old because he scored 15 EPL goals in one season?

A Yes, or a No, Monsieur? [/color]

in league alone for a 22 yr old guy? Big yes, esp if he has good attributes.
Big no if all he does is just poach in goals only like Abraham

I'll take an Ollie Watkins over Abraham and I'm dead certain Ollie Watkins haven't scored up to 15 league goals

iamoyindamola:
Tah
You also said Abraham is not good enough, also Haller
But firminho is good right, I'm just looking at you since raumdeuter is lecturing you

I still stand by my word on the bolded. Shey time go come I no go dey hear alert from you again from those two na? Na small small e dey start. Abraham own don start sef, ba make haller join am(even tho him dey weakest league).
But the good news is that I no go even remind you.

And yes, I love firmino than them. But Will I want firmino as our striker? No

raumdeuter:
All those prime Firmino was simply leeching off the work of Salah and Mane

Prime Firmino in 2018 was a benchwarmer for Brazil. Brazil played 4 matches a total of 360mins guess how many of these minutes did prime Firmino play? 81.
Guess who benched him? That is the funniest part of it

You call it leeching, klopp calls it his system.

If he was so useless since 2016, why did it take klopp 5yrs to finally replace him. Esp since klopp needed the league and cl.

kendrick93:
Every role has different interpretations depending on the coach prefers...
For example Figo was a winger and you could also call Neymar or Robben wingers but their roles are so so different on the pitch..
Figo was tasked to create primarily, while the likes of Neymar were to tasked to score and at the same time cause havoc thereby creating chances...
Firmino is a not a pure no 9 like i will say again..
He was an attacking midfielder now converted into a false 9 sort of

Them just no wan gree. Them no know say even the games dey advance. Before hardly you see fullbacks having such assist like Arnold and Robertson nor midfield shorn of creativity. But at Liverpool that's how it's done all because that's the way klopp want it. But na firmino naim be the useless striker.

Simple question I ask dayo: Firmino was so useless and Liverpool needed cl and league, why didn't they replace him then? Esp as them dey buy other correct signings in other positions

raumdeuter:
na failure of Firmino make am begin dey give all those excuses
The Liverpool fans wey dey clamour for his removal and benching are not real ones they are fake ones
When a striker is arriving the box last that is a problem

Na how people go dey give excuses for Werner too say he dey hardworking make runs. like say na runs girl. Make he continue in that manner

Like I said, firmino during his prime have always been praised by both fans and pundits alike. You can't compare him with giroud and Werner whom fans curse week in week out.
Wen he slumped out of form, he was duly replaced. Simple!

I'm not talking about out of form here, I'm talking prime firmino in klopp system

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Tammy Abraham in EPL

19/20 season - 15 goals
20/21 - 6 goals

This is the stats for a 24 year old, and you want people to be sold out on this?

Or is there any other numbers Tammy has, that you'll like us to know?[/color]

He didn't play up to full season in 20/21 so I won't count that

His full season was 15goals and if he'd been taking you guys Pk like most strikers do, that's 19-20goals per season at least. How is that not a good return for a striker. Yet even with his 15 open play goals, only very few Chelsea fans were in support of him. And you know the reason for that

raumdeuter:
Everything but score. which is the main job of a center forward

He's not a cf by default, he is an Am.
He is just playing the "Cf" role as a link up to the main CFs(,Salah and mane).

Check Liverpool of 2-3 seasons ago, firmino mostly arrive at the box last.
Wen someone says he's not your usual striker but a system striker, na wetin we dey talk since. Real Liverpool fans knows all these

izzou:
[color=royalblue]A good striker is spotted by his numbers

E reach Firminho turn, na good hold up play, can accelerate and decelerate, can turn left and reverse right ...

Abeg [/color]

Lol... Na you get your opinion na.

I wonder why most of you wasn't sold on Abraham even with his good numbers?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It will not work. You know that

God no go let Mane and Salah get reason to be unavailable for a long period for Liverpool. That's when you'll know that guy is very dispensable

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Salah sef. Na this mane wey him form dey deteriorate?
Like I said earlier, he's lost form so I can't vouch for that. But if you bring a good winger (half as good as Salah with mane) and prime firmino with still klopp system, they'll still do well.

This is more of a system and firmino is fitting into it instead of the Salah and mane individuality you people are raving about. Not taking anything away from Salah tho

AnfieldFan:
Bobby can hold up play and play the final pass...You know why, because he has an excellent first touch...
You know your stuff when it comes to football, that's why I was surprised and had to get clarity from you..
Bobby can serve as an outlet when Liverpool need to cool the tempo......

Na people wey no dey watch him ball fit say Bobby useless.

Good holdup play and ball control and first touch
Good pressing and harrying of defenders
Can pass, can wriggle his way under tight conditions. Excellent dribbler too
He can't be easily bullied off the ball
Create chances both in movement and passes.

But he should be crucified cos Salah and mane scores more than him

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Liverpool fans cannot drag Firminho because they don't depend on him to win matches.

Firminho is sitting on the bench, yet Liverpool is winning matches.

It goes to show you how he would be missed if he leaves.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he's a useless player oh. I'm just against the hype you guys give him [/color]

Ehen, it's now that you come that I've understood you

Me I'm not even hyping him sef cos I'm not sure I've called him among top 5 strikers in pl in recent times. What I'm just debunking is when people are saying he's useless in Liverpool's achievements, that's I'm mostly against.

His style of play complemented Liverpool's play and system. Whether it will work in another team is another talk on its own

raumdeuter:
Are you sure of the bold?

Lol... I need to check the date of this to see if it falls under his slump time na

raumdeuter:
The 2nd image was October last year around the time season just started and they were already pointing to "slump continues"

That's 2020/2021 season na. I'm talking about 2019/2020 season wen football re-started after covid gave it a halt. The season Liverpool carried league. It was after covid restart that he slumped in form(wen football restarted but fans was not allowed in the stadium)

AnfieldFan:
That ball needed to be controlled...It came in fast,he controlled with the outside of his foot, I would say he needed to scoop the ball a bit...
But he did well by controlling...

Alright, if you say so. I guess we have different understanding on it which isn't bad

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You really have enough time on your hands

Firminho is so good that Jota came and started seeing shirt in his first season.

If it was another striker, we won't hear the last of how terrible he is. But because Salah and Mane's numbers are good, Firminho becomes the link.

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Firmino is not guilty of losing glit-edge chances frequently, he has perfect understanding with the duo and he scores important goals. Most other strikers who were dragged is because they're guilty of such example Werner and giroud. Arsenal fans drag giroud for such, Chelsea fans drag Werner for such too, but you hardly see Liverpool fans

Like I said earlier, you just wan drag am and nothing more. After all no be here Abraham they score 15goal(and plus ) a season yet Chelsea fans dey claim he's not good enough but prefer havertz as 9.

mostob:
He always look lost anytime he plays as a CF and his linkup play is not that good. I will like him to play as a LW with Auba at the top...

Most times he played 9 in Europa during Emery season he was good. But now, even the wing he was shining is no more as strong as before. This is just Arteta tactics at work here and it might kill his confidence

raumdeuter:
You know nothing. Many Liverpool fans were even excited when news were linking them to Werner thinking he will replace Firmino

This is a link from May this year about fans fuming about Firmino. Maybe na ramdeter dey write those posts

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/completely-lost-hes-finished-many-lfc-fans-slam-useless-man-who-lost-possession-15x/ar-BB1eh71f


When you start seeing plenty shalaye to defend the output of an attacker know that he is useless. Klopp will be defending him in public, How many times do you see Klop defending Salah?

Below is another post dated October 2020 where they said slump continues, meaning he has been terrible for months before that

Lol... I told you his slump started post-covid (immediately after the resumption of covid football)and all what you're bringing is covid restart news. In fact the 2nd picture stated reigning champions meaning it even buttresses my point that he's been subpar before then

Show me where fans blast firmino from jan 2020 and before then cos you're just clutching at straws here

BlueMann:
Hmmm...be like I go watch am again, cos I remember at that moment, I felt Fabinho took too long to shoot after trapping the ball.

And yes, I pray the block proves decisive...




...in deciding who finishes second below Chelsea.

. You no serious

Yeah, please try and rewatch the clip again lemme hear your opinion on it