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hensben:
How many season was De Gea in this form you are talking about compare to his off form season? De Gea nor near Cech or are you kidding me here. De Gea lack so many things as a goalkeeper. Even while he was saving you guys with legs and all that he still lack those things as a goalkeeper. He never had a good game for Spain even when he was “helping” Man U that season.

First things first, how will he have a good game in Spain wen we all know the first choice was casillas. Is like someone downgrading Ederson now cos he isn't keeping for Brazil. Casillas was their number 1 keeper through out his peak, so he can't just displace him like that. At least, ter stegen can testify.

2ndly, from 2013-2017 was he's peak form, and since that time, he was almost head and shoulder above all man u players in performance. For a keeper to be player of the season for 2 consecutive years for man u aiming for top 4(not relegation), says more about that keeper.

Saying he's not half as good is cech in performance is pure fallacy!!!

kokaneprodigy:
we can beat City with the right lineup

More over we are no longer in Europe we should go full throttle on the league no excuses.

We can beat city... But then, it's etihad. That's the factor I'm looking at.

Roland17:
I did not realize you were speaking about 2 games.

Yeah, I made that comment cos Kbs posted our next two matches and their times

iamoyindamola:
I think he's talking about our next 2 games

Yes bro...thanks

Roland17:
4 points bawo?

yes na. 3points against west ham, 1point against man city.
It's achievable

iamoyindamola:
it's will end in tears

iamoyindamola:
That team that can't beat olympiakos
Better brace yourself for Capital L

Last time I checked, football no be mathematics.
Tho, I'm expecting any result tho, but I'm not brazenly expecting an L

Kbs468:
Our game vs Manchester City has been rescheduled for next Wednesday March 11th oooooo

At the Etihad 8:30 pm on the dot

hoping we get at worst 4points..
If man u can beat man city at their ground, why can't we??

iamoyindamola:
Our first EPL L in 2020 coming next week Wednesday

You're not a true fanz o

nitrogen:


De Gea hasn't done up to half of what Czech did at Chelsea, haaaaaa, have the fear of God Na!

And yes, I agree he needs to be benched for a couple of games.

lol... Na now you just dey see am ba?

BlueAngel444:
A very sharp decline, even worse than that of Cassilas or Valdes

To be sincere, I don't know anytime Valdez was great.

Expert17:
You are just confusing urself for nothing.......

My point is simple, he is not in form since after world cup.....
And
Cech achievement both on the field and outside the field are greater than De gea's.

I didn't doubt he's out of form post world cup.
Cech might be better than him but the difference isn't much is what I'm saying. Capitalcee says him no do half of wetin cech do, which was my initial argument against him.
In terms of achievement, cech met a better team during his peak years compared to de gea, that's why he achieved more than him. Just like Valdez achieved more than cech, but that doesn't make him a good keeper like cech

larride:
Even those 2 bad season, he still pull comparable stats with their acclaimed best GKs.

It’s really not their fault, DDG is suffering from his own high standards he has set.

The worst part is that, they're not even acknowledging his high standard sef.

Now, I really know how most people view De gea here. Some are saying de gea is inconsistent, just a good goal keeper, and what nots... Mehn, it's surprising tho. Just because of 2 seasons bad form, neglecting all the seasons he was outstanding, making jaw-dropping saves, and mostly single handedly winning points( 3-1 against arsenal and 1-0 against spurs comes to mind), but hey!... He's just a good keeper. Lolzz.

BlueAngel444:
1. PETER SCHMEICHEL
2. PETR CECH
3. DAVID SEAMAN
4. EDWIN VAN DER SAR
5. SHAY GIVEN
6. BRAD FRIEDEL
7. PEPE REINA
8. DAVID DE GEA
9. THIBAUT COURTOIS
10. JENS LEHMANN
11. NIGEL MARTYN
12. JUSSI JAASKELAINEN
13. ALLISON
14. MARK SCHWARZER

Pepe Reina and Friedel, and Given over De gea.
So because of post world cup form, De gea have become one kinda scrap keeper?
Chai na wa o...

thorrvik55:
How does the bolded correlate with ur initial assertion?

My point of argument is this...
De gea was world class at man u at his prime which spans across seasons. He did more than half of great goalkeeping in man u, compared to cech in Chelsea.
Cech might be better than Ddg, but no way that gap is much. That's my argument all these while

airmark:
He is a young scummy. Most of these guys started watching football post 2010 and are not ready to learn.

Lol, I'm not a scummy or a man u fan, but if I see truth I go talk.

How will ddg not up to be half of cech?
Lol...
Na wa o

nihilistjnr:
Oya explain this unholy lie

nothing unholy here bro. Cech was world class, with a world class defence. Thus all those defence helps him too. Ddg was with a mediocre defence, and most times he singlehandedly gave man u points. Let's put things in perspective jare.
Cech might be better than ddg but no how ddg no reach half of cech.... Haba!

spillo1:
LMFAO....Leave people to be dropping things they pick up from Wikipedia to form opinion. Cech was world class at some stage but at his peak had a wall in front of him. Gallas as left back. Terry and Carvalho as centre backs and Makelele in front of them to top it off. They rarely conceded shots let alone goals. De gea was making ridiculous saves and winning us points regularly on his own.

As in, it is surprising guys really forgot who ddg just cos he's been underperforming. Same people way go do Thanksgiving say his transfer to Madrid fell through, through the fax boy, are same people who say prime DDG NO REACH [/b]HALF[b] OF CECH.
like Half Of Cech o

Unlimited22:
Something dey worry you?

Taa mechionu osiso
Skimpledawg airmark ibime nihilistjnr blueangel444 come look at this MOFO

lol, you na Chelsea fan na, I no expect you to think otherwise

CapitalCee:
Then you didnt know Cech, go and check his stats for Chelsea then come back. That there are other outstanding players like Lampard, Drogba, and Terry during chelsea hey days does not mean Cech did not have a huge impact on their winnings. Cech make ridiculous saves, save penalties, put in his body and even almost lost his life against reading in 2006. Cech is in top 3 all time best GK in EPL history, go and check the record books. So because Van der sar and Schmeichel did not "Singlehandedly" win trophies for us, they are not as great as DDG?
You think i dont like De gea? All of us like him, but guy something is at stake here, Lose top 4 consistently and you wont attract good players and when it continues for years you become a team of also-rans and may decline never to recover. Like i said earlier, Fergie will never retain De gea this season. Keane, Stam, Van Nistelrooy, and Beckham clear examples. We cant because he Singlehandedly saved us before, then drag us to obscurity.
Do you remember Ranieri and Leicester city?
Pochetino and Spurs?

Now I'm not against you guys benching ddg. He's made ridiculous errors yes, but haba. This guy is a world class keeper at his prime for years. Just from last two years and his first season his was jittery can't downplay his numerous years of outstanding world class goal keeping, with an average defence o. I tell you, if peak ddg should swap position with that Chelsea team with cech, maybe, just maybe, you'll be downplaying cech now of his previous heroics they way you're downplaying ddg.

You guys should bench him...fine
But to say he wasn't half of cech level is ridiculous to say the least.

Expert17:
Then you didn't watch Petr Cech at Chelsea......

. Conceded just 21 goals in 38 games, that's in a season
. Highest clean sheet in EPL history
. Highest clean sheet in a season.
.Had one of the longest run without conceeding a goal in EPL.
. Won numerous Golden gloves
.[/b] was part of the best defence in EPL history[b]


Cech is rated alongside Peter schiemel and Edwin Vanderser as all time EPL best keepers........ De gea is way below please

This sums cech up. Now, I'm not saying he's not world class at his prime, but don't make it seem like Ddg at his prime was one kind Leno or Pickford. A keeper that was man u player of the year for 2 consecutive season (I think), speaks volume. A defence of smalling, Jones, ageing young and Valencia, and he was making saves after saves is what you wanna downplay. Yes cech is very good no doubt, but with a back 4 of peak Chelsea with strong MF of essien and makalele, it's easy to see why he kept most clean sheets.

Now I don't want to be misunderstood, I didn't say ddg is greater than cech(that's debatable to some tho). What I am against is ddg no reach cech. That wan na lie lie!!

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CapitalCee:
Bros, in this board, there are players that even if they are dropping 1/10 or 2/10 every match you are not allowed to point it out. They are: Martial, DDG and Lindelof. Once you point our their flaws you will be lynched. Pogba used to be in this category until it became obvious that he is taking us for a ride, another is Herrera who wanted to Mug us of 300k/week until he was allowed to go to PSG to be benched Gueye(who is not even first choice mind u). But let James, Mctomminay, Matic, Shaw or Rashford put in anything average, you will never hear the last of it. They will be calling on Ed to offload them to the championship

Stop wasting your time trying to convince people who see black and call it white. Someone who ridiculously put his team 1 goal behind at goodison park at 2 minutes is not a problem? Degea has lost us a whooping 7 points this season just from his direct errors, i dont want to even talk about matches where he concedes from a routine shot.
Juxtapose the number of goals from setpieces we conceded this with the number of aeriel claims from our GK, check the number of headed clearances from our defenders and compare it to other teams, and someone said its less of our problem.
So Guardiola that quickly dropped Joe hart and then Bravo for Ederson, who said GK is least of his problem?, considering that the GK losses him 8 to 10 points per season from direct errors ALONE. Klopp spent big on Alisson, if it was Fergie, DDG wont be the first choice this season after he cost us top 4 last season. Even Wenger who is known to give benefit of doubt quickly dropped Lehman versus Liverpool in 2005 just after his heroics in the invincible season. And someone is saying DDG is least of our problem? Wait first! [/b]Did DDG do half of what Cech did at Chelsea?[b] But he was immediately dropped when he became fidgety.

You dropped good points o. But you see this bolded here, I think you're just being emotional. Ddg did more than half of the things cech did at Chelsea. At a certain time sef, he was singlehandedly saving you guys ass

Roland17:
If I talk now!

The changes in the midfield and attack look good and it is good to see Mari get his first start but this man will run the defense to the ground eh!

Why is Holding not starting in place of Luiz? How about Niles at RB in place of Sok? or Sok for Luiz? As for Saka, it is obvious we are intentionally choosing to run him to the ground. I just hope this does not mean Lacazette will start against Westham!

I know he'll feel like, nobody to replace Saka. But he just need to make that boy rest. Not only is he still young, but he's playing games every 3-4 days which is for players at their peak mostly of age 24-27.

If he starts lacazette against west ham, then, I know his head is touching little by little.

Also, wat have AMN done that he's not making the squad again.
Isn't it baffling?

Hmmm...
Mk dem no kill our Saka o

Tarabye:
Idiot why didn't you quote me last year, Look at how you rushed into my mention, Is this how Liverpool made you miserable

but it's good say you no bet 10m naira o.
Lolzz
You see say e no easy to do unbeaten as you claimed last year

BenNash:
All it took was one loss from Liverpool for some of you to come out with your agenda. Arnold is a beast of a player. Got Guinness world record for most assist by a defender in history last year and is on course to break that record again this year. He's not a beast defensively but he's not as bad defensively as guys here are making it seem. His contributions attacking wise overcompensates for whatever weakness he might have defensive wise.

I remember when both Liverpool fullbacks started getting recognition, Robertson was the one being discussed all over. Until Arnold started beasting.

He had a bad game yesterday, everyone has their off days. So dead the agenda abeg.

bros, nobody is saying Arnold isn't good, or are we blaming him. Just saying all round, Robertson is a better fullback than him

Fladm:
Na atletico open floor jare...

Since then, they have conceded 5 goals in their last 2 matches...

lol...OK.
If you think so.

Melvyn11:
Liverpool's plot armor has run out and it's all thanks to Atletico Madrid. They made everyone realize they are actually beatable and since then they have been shaky almost losing to West Ham and now absolutely outplayed by Watford. They will definitely take more take few more Ls till the end of the season.

if you watched the 1st leg of the said ystdy match, you won't be giving athletico all the glory. Watford weren't clinical in the first leg unlike ystdy.

Also, I remember guys here were telling you that they've been grinding wins in the league, and haven't been having it all rosy. But you no gree. Now you wan carry west ham "nearly beating Liverpool" to attribute it to athletico. Smh!

Roland17:
I have been preaching the gospel according to the [/b]book of Robertson[b] for a long while now. The guy is embarrassingly underrated in that Liverpool set up.

lol @ the bolded

Very Massively underrated, I tell you.

Lana1:
When Trent isn't sending 50 crosses in a match, the guy is actually worse than Young coz he cant defend shït.

Thank you... That's what people don't mainly know about him. That's why I said Robertson is a better fullback than him. His attacking input is great no doubt, but defensively, he's always found wanting.