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Osimhen is on the right track. Not a finished striker. Still has room to develop. Napoli will be a good challenge. If he succeeds there, the sky is the limit for him.

andrewbaba44:
I don’t rate osi low

But you are the one that don’t follow football to think osimhen will have a chance at city

Make we self Dey talk true at times

What happened to Aguero if I may ask for that question mark you put up there

You said if given the chance but you know he won’t be given the chance at that team as far as pep is there .

I Dey realistic no mean say I no rate player

Even man united or Chelsea self osimhen won’t be given the chance there .

I should be the one asking if you follow football or not

People have analyzed Osimhen’s attributes to see if he is good for how Napoli is set up to play and opinions have differed. I agree with everything else you said !

komekn:
There is nothing in any contract that guarantees you get a starting spot.

They manager can promise you everything but if its not written it's just a promise to be easily broken.

When Balotelli came to Liverpool Brendan Rogers promised him everything but gave him nothing. If you ask Raheem why he left Liverpool it was primarily because of broken promises by Brendan.

When people buy experienced strikers a reason is adaptability and consistency.

Nobody has assessed Osimhen attributes and how they will converge with the style of play in Napoli and Seria A. We just assume.

Serious players do a lot of personal homework about a team even before they touch the first ball. The managers philosophy, the team ethos, the influencing characters in the team. Those yoi need to make your friends so you can succeed, etc, etc.

The work starts now.

Igbekeme clearly has had a better career even in the lower leagues than Nwakali. There is no debating that.
However football is present and continuous performance. If Nwakali rises above Igbekeme based on consistent performance I will say it as it is.
But no one can lie when the facts are glaring.

Edopesin:
So in your opinion that stats worth the hype? Didn't you see where I said it is average or do you think it is better than average because Nwakali is the one here

I guess we should not look at the lost possessions and 1 off target shot so we can praise him

Igbekeme is pulling better stats but he is not called an elite player

Abegi

Who goes up to Primera in LaLiga? How is the promotion play-off, when does it start, matches, teams and schedules
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Cádiz and Huesca have already sealed their ticket to the elite; Zaragoza, Almería, Girona and Elche or Fuenlabrada will play the Playoff.
There are three teams that rise from Second to First Division in Spanish football . The two teams classified in first and second position in the table do so directly and a third by way of the 'play-off' , which faces in direct knockout stages those classified between 3rd and 6th position in the table .

Who goes up to Primera in LaLiga ?

The first two classifieds of the Second Division , also known as the SmartBank League, rise directly at the end of the season: in 2019-20 it is about Huesca and Cádiz . The team from Cádiz got it first, on July 12 , while the Catalan team confirmed their ticket to Primera five days later. However, Huesca ended up being the champion.

With Cádiz and Huesca already in the First Division, it should be remembered that the third promotion to the elite of Spanish football is going to be defined in the coming days with a PlayOff that will be played by the teams that finish in the third, the fourth, the fifth and in the sixth position of the classification . Right now, those teams are Zaragoza , Almería , Girona and Elche , respectively. Of course, Fuenlabrada played its game against the already relegated Deportivo La Coruña, an encounter that was canceled due to the positive cases of Covid-19 coronavirus that there were in the Madrid team.

How is the promotion play-off, when does it start, matches, teams and schedules

The dates of the matches had already been determined, but the postponement of Deportivo - Fuenlabrada has modified the plans. However, it is speculated that these will be the dates:

Semifinals first leg
Elche or Fuenlabrada against Zaragoza: August 2 (probable)
Girona vs. Almería: August 2 (probable)

Semifinals 2nd leg
Zaragoza against Elche or Fuenlabrada: August 5 (probable)
Almería against Girona: August 5 (probable)

Final
Outbound: August 8 (probable)
Return: August 11 (probable)

-goal Spain

Seyi the problem I see here is that some people here can push some of us to become less balanced and not want to accept where Nwakali may do well and try to see some faults. Yes Nwakali has been hyped over and over again but that does not stop us from saying it as it is. I don't think loss of possession was one of his weak points.

Just for comparison, I have attached one of James Igbekeme's best games this year. In that said game (see attachment 1), he lost possession 27 times but still ended with an overall impressive rating of 7.9. This must be due to more weight put on goals scored. Loss of possession does not take away much points from a player because it can be attributed to different criteria (see attachment 2) e.g "Ball Control: Losing possession due to lack of trap ability or passer’s bad pass, "Passing to a Marked Player: Losing possession due to pass to a marked player rather than an unmarked player". Again look at "Clearance" and "Illegal Movement descriptions. So you see, on paper it always looks like losing possession 9 times is a big deal but it could have happened in different circumstances. You can only have a good look at it if you actually watched the match. Now also take into consideration Huesca's highest rated player of the night, Eugeni Valderrama, He lost possession 6 times but spent 64 minutes on the pitch. The goal scorer who is also a midfielder, Cristo González, lost possession 15 times spending a considerable less time on the pitch compared to Nwakali. That said, we must always say it as it is. Nwakali won 6 ground dwells out of 10, He was able to find his man 3 out of 6 long ball attempts. Those were his good points. Not elite, not exceptional but a good start for him. This was a big game for Nwakali especially coming from where he has been over the years. Will he carry this into preseason and hopefully be a regular starter in La Liga. I hope so, If he doesn't I will always be here to say it as it is again as a proper hype detector

sheyishemba:
I've said earlier the quality of the league is the difference ....if nwakali is losing possession in man united I won't have pointed this out coz of the quality and competition in the league

thanks my bro for being balanced. We need more of you on here. I don't want to be dragged into "discussions" with people who will sooner or later start keeping malice. I want to believe we are all matured here.

JayromWrites:
Calma

Igbemeke is still Nigerian

If he's better than Nwakali, he deserves to be mentioned

What losing possession in football entails. This is one of the several research I have done.

finito!!!

elunico:
I'm okay man!

Whether you like it or not, any player with dual nationality turns up for us when they are not good enough for their resident/birth country. Until our local league is high in standards we'd be looking to getting those who see us as 2nd options.

I have once said it here that lost possession count is not as bad as it looks in paper. 9 in 90 minutes is very good. I would explain what lost possession entails.

JayromWrites:
Bros!! Y'all want to use his lost possession to ridicule him

So you can't praise him for having 90% pass accuracy because it's Segunda Division right

Like it's not football that is played there

We all saw Girona.. Stop making it look like they are all bunch of part time farmers

Cut the guy some slacks.. Y'all looking for something that isn't there

Slightly above is more accurate than elite. I won’t call it average. It’s def above average. But “Elite”? If it was done consistently then I wouldn’t call it a hype.

Edopesin:
Slightly above average

Meanwhile they said its the typical stats of an Elite Central Midfielder

Wetin Musa never see

Most Players with dual national affiliation see Nigeria as a second option. I can prove that to you even with MOST of the players that have committed to us based on what they have said on record. Don’t make it an England thing.

IDENNAA:
I don't have any business protecting English players who see Nigeria as a second option. Are you guys ok , at all ?

Will u HUMBLY apologize?

ChrisKels:
Prove me wrong, quod erat demonstrandum

Oh really. If I prove you wrong will you humbly apologize?

ChrisKels:
Only in your textbook is a rating of 7.0/10 an average rating

Bold the sweetened part for my post abeg. Lol
Nothing excellent or “elite” from his stats alone.

Edopesin:
7.0 rating in segunda is just average there's no need to sweeten it

You can watch it, I won't bother

7.0 overall is an average rating. He was slightly above average overall. But we can go to the various aspects of the rating to see his strengths/weaknesses. This is all solely stats. I will have to watch the replay to have a better take

Edopesin:
So what's up with the hype ... Is this really it?

Lmao I hope he improves on it

His stats is good for 90mins. I’m driving now making these posts. Let me get home. Will break it down as soon as I get the time

sheyishemba:
Nwakalidihno is actually coming up
Losing possession 9 times in a game as a AMF can be devasting for a counter attacking team
No shot on target it is well

You can always count on me to say it as it is. No sentiments. People’s one sided views of a player will not make me dislike the player. Today Osimhen deserves his valuation after his exploits in Ligue 1.

Tamunotonye22:
I love your point of, very direct and positive. I also expect him to do so, the Serie A is now active like the early 20s and the influx of attackers shows that they are about to take over. I remember when their were lots of Nigerians in the top clubs of series A, big step for osimhen and this should also be a challenge to the others who think playing in the Dutch league or Latvian league should be praised.

K.Nwakali stats

Will sure do

Edopesin:
Abeg no forget to share full time stats

Hopefully he does. But on the papers or football news online, na only praises I dey see. You know how Niaja journalists be. When you do your own checks, you see a different picture.

maidaboi:
if he see his praises he will surely see his critics

Yes, he has more battles to fight. for this one, He still needs to impress badly. Next season many things could still happen.

komekn:
Managers make up their mind up about players very quickly.

Then you have an uphill task to prove that your good enough. Remember that saying about "First impressions last"

Go and look at the squad of Huesca and look.at how many are loan moves from all over the place, it looks half or more of the team are loan moves.Then the next group are free transfers and then a few are actually bought.

Club no get money.

They will get a lot more players in for La Liga what they have will see them relegated immediately.

So he is going to have more competition in midfield with much needed players coming in. How will he survive better quality competition.

Time will tell.

I really hope Nwakali doesn't read the praises he gets from the Nigerian media even when he had average or even below par game.
he doesn't need that at all. It won't help his career. I am not at home now, but I thought I would be able to catch a glimpse of the ongoing game online. I will make sure to watch the replay.

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He seems to be growing into the game from his current stats.

Tamunotonye22:
Y'all can't wait to attack the man, Lol, I'm pretty sure y'all also hate to see an SE player being criticised. Criticism should trigger them to play better and that's exactly what nwakali needs rn

Well, some will end up average, never reaching that potential we saw in them. Some will amount to nothing, and a VERY few will reach it.

komekn:
THANK YOU

I actually thought that Rabiu was going to be the next JJay.

But he faltered badly at every opportunity From Porto to PSV to Celtic to Kilmarnock and l have lost count.

Finally, when you see him now he is 29 but looks 40. He is in an obscure leagues, at least he is getting paid.

Osimhen always wanted a guarantee that he would be the main CF. Napoli went for him as their main man. But should they go for a back up, Osimhen will always have to show he is better. Competition is what will keep him on his toes to ensure he always get the starting spot. But if he goes barren after a run of games, even a few games, I expect Napoli fans to become impatient especially considering the anxiety his transfer brought to them. However, I EXPECT Victor to hit the ground running immediately.

Tamunotonye22:
you be funny guy o, I just hope Napoli doesn't buy jovic that's all I'm saying because it doesn't look like they play two CFs

This is significant. He needs to prove that he deserves to start when they start to compete in LaLiga. The battle starts here. He has a lot to prove.

komekn:
Starting in a match that has no significance so insignificant players are brought in, just like Nwakali.

Wait so Kelechi Nwakali start today? Make I go watch match

While I agree with your argument that those that have fallen off the radar playing wise should not get mentions over those with better performances, I don't agree that they should be forgotten totally. They are worthy of mention when necessary. But the fact should be stated clearly, by not judging them based on the potential they once showed. If they are really as good as the potential they once had it would show on the pitch, they will get game time and they would stand out. Until then, we should only speak of them in the context of if they will ever reach the potential they once showed they had.

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komekn:
You are confusing yourself.

He is so good why is he not playing for Porto, why is he on loan all the time.

He played in French league one and he was so outstanding that nobody valued him enough to buy him. Nobody even asked for a loan.

Then he faced the big express to Turkey not even the top teams.

He has played in La Liga but he has been relegated a reflection of his ability.

How many La Liga teams are fighting for his signature, because he is so outstanding.

I can imagine him on the flight back to Turkey very soon.

It can go either way. Look at Ramon Azeez. He's still very much around, although at a point it seemed he will not amount to anything. Even Rabiu Ibrahim is not down and out. It seems an average of 3 players always come out good from all of our U17 sides that make it to the finals of the U17 WC. Maybe we will see an improvement of that number for our U17 set of 2013 and beyond. Make we dey look am. But the truth is U17 is nothing but youth football. Even the greatest talent at that level may never reach his supposed potential.

IDENNAA:
I get the career span thing but the inability for a young talent to hit the ground running can be ascribed to many factors. Nevertheless, it doesn't spell the end of their careers. These guys still has a lot to offer, full stop.

Hahaha abegi leave that yeye matter

Edopesin:
Nwakali by a mile

So who among our SE players appear to be finishing the season strongly since the restart of the various leagues?

LMAO @bolded

komekn:
You see any short man for Stoke ❓

The ball is mostly in the air and they don't have much pace. I also think with the new manager Etebo tire for the kick and rush football. The quality of football is this particular game is rubbish.

I deh go Tesco go buy palmee, I don tire too look, Eee de pain my � eye.

Lol for your mind.

ChrisKels:
I actually expected you to laugh over it, but you were rather in pains, hence bickering. Don't cloud it with "lol" bro, you catching feelings and grasping at straws