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benji93:
He might have had a decent debut in La liga, but his career over 8 years is at best average. And he doesn't deserve a call up yet, allow him to build up steam. He's shown some promise thus far. I can't believe i am describing someone who has been playing for 8 years as promising. Long overdue.

Icon4s:
Oga, nobody needs to get a screen shot to prove anything. Yes, a lot of people hip praises on Nigerian players here but that is normal. If you don't celebrate your own who will?

That is the same way the English Press and their fans hip praises on their own players.

Some of us have some times tried to tone down the praises but you go to extreme to talk down Nigerian players. Are you not the same person that repeatedly called Isaac Success a waste Pipe? Which screen shot do you need for that?

komekn:
I will not agree completely.

First of all Rabui was the stand out youth player in Sporting, was classed as one of the best young players in the world playing regularly at Sporting youth, Nwakali did not have that tag.

Contract greed by his agents prevented him from playing in the first team. Yes they wanted to give him.a new contract with a huge sell out clause, but his career would have progressed.

This was the period of TPI, my view, his agents wanted to cash in as opposed to considering long term career progression. That's where all his problems started.

He then moved to PSV nothing happened from there to Celtic and from there to Kilmarnock. And from there to relative obscurity.

Kelechi didn't get the opportunity to play in Arsenal U23, he was not the stand out player in Arsenal and although we rated him as EXCEPTIONAL TALENT nobody else did in world football apart from the delusional.

He was called to the SE set up on what basis He failed in the Eredivisie and got demoted to the Eerste second tier of Dutch football and couldn't get any in ended up in Porto B and still couldn't make any impression.

When a second division club in Spain buys you and immediately sends you to the 3rd tier. It is saying something loud and clear.

Ages and ages ago l questioned his selection multiple times without any coherent answer beyond abuse and HATER. Then his older brother gotta call to the SE who is even more anonymous.

But too many are fanatically nepotistic in thier desire for certain players. The chief among them the is unrepentant TheSuperDelusional one.

Talent is not HIDDEN it's EXPRESSED and if after multiple opportunities over three years without it being expressed. It means you either didn't have any or you have LOST IT.

Finally youth football exploits are not always transferable to first team senior football. So pinning deductions of talent on youth football exploits can be very futile.

benji93:
No, No, No, average at best, which kind decent career. The guy moved back and forth from Almeria B to the first term for 5 years or so. Do you understand what a decent career means?

Icon4s:
Rabiu's case is even better than K. Nwakali's

TheSuperNerd:
This is my morning. Already up for the day.

Well thank you for your opinions. And you have no idea how calm I am....

TheSuperNerd:
And for the umpteenth time.... the reason for my epistles... I was not making a comparison but a basic analogy of two young lads with similar expectations placed on them when they started off... one in 2009 and the other in 2015 as the next big thing in Nigeria's midfield dept especially as Midfield anchormen/Midfield enforcers.

So far, both have failed to rise to the expectations.... only so far. This is not about who have had the better career because both have had average careers. One have only had it longer than the other who is younger. The comparison is unfair on Nwakali who is only 3 years in compared to Azeez's 8+ yrs of pro football.

This is about both players' failures to rise to expectations. On this, I go with this Ramon-Nwakali analogy especially as it concerns the DLP expectations I had on both.

So you agreeing with him does not change my stance. And it definitely doesn't make his angle right. I also have those who agree with me. So Sorry.

tbaba1234:
Smh, ..

TheSuperNerd:
I used long epistle to help your comprehension as I seem to repeat myself sometimes when conversing with you.

And thank you... I like the Ramon analogy much better. No need getting uptight that I don't fancy the Rabiu angle that much.

Like Ramon (a DLP) for 10 years before his recent huge spark... like K.Nwakali (a DLP) for three years still looking for his first real huge spark . Let time be the judge of them all.

TheSuperNerd:
I am not talking better or worse analogy. I am talking Analogy. Why trying so hard to bring in comparatives? Ramon serves for me. Don't have to write a whole book of analogies, I just needed one. Ramon has also done Nothing spectacular in Top flight football apart from making appearances. If he did make an impact why did it take him so long to return to La Liga? Why didn't another La Liga team pick him up? Fact is Ramon was not doing anything special.

Even now he needs a strong season to further establish this new found positive vibe around his career. Ramon scored in La Liga... Nwakali scored in the Eredivisie. Ramon suffered a setback and went down from La liga and it's been turpsy turvy from there still he returned with Granada this season.

I wonder why using Ramon as an Analogy is biting you. Ramon is my example... Rabiu is yours. Don't bring your opinion and project is as what I should use. Ramon fits in just fine as much as I think Rabiu also fits in. CHIKENA.

In the end... all three have the same tale.... they all have the tales of struggles to live up to the true hype of their boyhood/cadet years. End of discussion.



In conclusion... Ramon is finding his feet again and I am most excited... after a decade of waiting.

K.Nwakali is next on my patience list.

TheSuperNerd:
There is no pie in sight... you simply cannot make a pie.

This is no attempt at logic. Both Ramon and Rabiu are good analogies to use as regards K.Nwakali who is far younger than both and still coming up whereas those two have had years to grow and realise their potentials... the analogy is so simple yet you simply cannot see it for reasons best known to you.
All three have similar tales of struggles as regards living up to their boyhood high potentials. Chikena.

TheSuperNerd:
In the end, 'somewhat' is not 'exactly'....

TheSuperNerd:
But comparison is not my goal. I have made that clear. I was drawing a simple analogy to how long it's taking a player of promise to actually realise his potentials as regards some of our golden boys of youth soccer. Ramon had that struggle but is gradually showing real class now... Rabiu had it and still has it.
Although, Rabiu Ibrahim sef dey Europa league now.... lol

Rabiu promised so much despite having no golden ball or individual award in the 2007 U-17s but he hasn't lived up to the billing since then.

But right now he got a chance to perhaps show us something in the Europa.

Kelechi Nwakali is in same boat in that regard... he hasn't made the most of his talents just yet. He needs more than talents. He needs the right mental attitude.

TheSuperNerd:
Ramon have been under the radar for most, for a long time now since the 2014 WC. Several even forgot about him or that he played football in Spain. He has shuttled between First, second and Third tiers of Spanish football between 2014 and last season before he returned to La Liga this season.

My point is this... Ramon struggled to rise to any level of prominence but he is hitting the right notes now.

Now let K.Nwakali do the same. It is up to him and I hope he can deliver with this chance given to him.

tbaba1234:
Huesca Loan New Signing Kelechi Nwakali To Third Division Side Logrones

https://owngoalnigeria.com/2019/09/02/huesca-loan-new-signing-kelechi-nwakali-to-third-division-side-logrones/

zoboizee:
Okereke played mostly as a right winger in Italy and it has affected his style of play in Brugge. He has constantly been drifting ( like Onyekuru in Anderlecht) to the flanks in matches so it is better they have Diagne who will use his physicality to take advantage of the space left in the centre.

Icon4s:
Una don start.

You think the foreign borns will get automatic spots in the team?

Bolowolowo:
Anyone monitoring Okereke? It seems as if his performance has plateaued.

Can anyone shed light on this?

komekn:
When you are new to the league you are an unknown quantity that makes you UNPREDICTABLE. You can initially use this to gain advantage in the short term.

Everyone now knows Chukwueze defenders will study his entire video footage of last season

He now has to up his game and add more to his game to compete.

Prectega:
He wasn't .. Inwas watching. Mendy had him in his pocket

Dreamswayne:
Trash!!!


After how many games oga?


Thank God Iwobi was even booted out of Arsenal, nonsense...

TheSuperNerd:
This kid and Valentine Ozornwafor (on loan from Galatasaray) now at UD Almeria in the Segunda. Beautiful.

tbaba1234:
Almeria new signing Isah Aliyu, quality left foot.

He looks quite young too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qPpv3j9UsM&feature=youtu.be

TheSuperNerd:
That post was just a summary of 10 years of hopes put upon Azeez. Since 2009, I have ben waiting for this version of Azeez I am seeing now. I hope he keeps up the momentum. I can be that patient for a truly talented player.

So don't worry... this is not me being carried away. This is me being excited for Azeez's rejuvenation story.

TheSuperNerd:
Lol.... Make that Forgiveness and me. I have always rated Azeez after his fine U-17 displays back in 2009. I remember his rocket against Korea that had Heung Min Son. Always loved his confidence on the ball in the middle.

He didn't have the sparkling rise other young talents had and really struggled for a while to stay relevant but he battled on nonetheless and I am glad.
He took time to finally settle into his talents and let things flow and I am so so so glad for the lad now. We need this Azeez back in the Super Eagles. His WC outing in 2014 was just a prelude. He looks even more ready now.

Th same way I felt towards Azeez back in 2009 is the same way I feel towards Kelechi Nwakali. Always saw both as answers to The Team's Midfield enforcer/dictator role.

tbaba1234:
A recall to the national team must be on the cards.

TheSuperNerd:
Ramon Azeez scores!!!! Granada up 3-0

TheSuperNerd:
Onyekuru subbed in 89mins.... Joebie can switch to his Monaco game now.... Loolll