Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:44pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
Way to go. If many Nigerians think like you the county for don progress tey tey. Starboytwo: I imagine what the super Eagles attack will look like in say 2 years from now...
Imagine an osihmen and chukwueze leading the line for the Eagles, Shay we no go kee person like this...
It's our time folks, the next 5 years should be a memorable one for the supporters of the SE......
Abraham is a good player, one man here would not make me hate him, I wish him well in his career, to be honest I do not hate any Nigerian player, home or FB, I always wish all our brother well....
I wish he gets to play a couple of games for england tho, we all know the age of Harry Kane and rashford, and we also know he only gets in if they are injured or rested, but I pray the 9ja blood in him can help him get close to 20 caps Sha... |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:42pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
How u take know say he no get Nigerian passport too? safarigirl: Nigeria's laws do not supercede international laws, as regards nationality.
Anybody without a Nigerian passport, will not be regarded as a Nigerian in the international community. You may even be born and bred in Nigeria, but you will be identified with the passport you possess on the international front. When Pius Adesanmi died in the fatal Ethiopian plane crash last year or so, he was listed as Canadian, because he had a Canadian passport. A certain actress, Hannah John-Kamen, has a Nigerian dad and Norwegian mum, but she is British.
At most, Tammy would be of Nigerian-origin, but as long as he has an English passport, he is English. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:40pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
All Nigerians win. komekn: Chelsea win but a big win for Nigerian players.
Osimhen had barely any chances but did very well on the header. But after that Zouma gave him no breathing space. Great heart from him.
Tammy with a goal Tomori with an assist and Willian with an excellent goal. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:26pm On Oct 02, 2019 |
I only have interest in Tammy if he is an SE hopeful. Since he don post us till next year I concluded that his future lies with England because he will definitely be cap-tied before then. So there isn’t any point talking about him here. However we still hear about Messi, Suarez and other players who don’t really have biz here, on this thread. So who am I to say...? ChrisKels: Guess komekn, forgiveness and Joebie's prayer points since morning.........?
Oh yes u guessed it right. They av bn praying "that Osimhen doesnt outshine Tammy today" |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:30am On Oct 02, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:44am On Oct 02, 2019 |
My position has always been showing interests in Nigerians groomed abroad should not stop you from devoloping football domestically. The NFF, club management and all stakeholders in this need to be proactive. It’s not a lot of work to court foreign bred players. compared to the enormous work needed to get our system working at home. The NFF on their part are only following the fastest way to get results. They are being lazy and not looking at the big picture - the huge potential in our homefront. Delayed gratification is not in their dictionary. Clubs as well are not looking to the future. In my opinion, I think it’s the general mentality. People want money sharp sharp. Earthquake1: Agbolanhor, Solanke, Jordan Ibe,John Fashanu @ the bolded
Also these guys were born in England and raised in England, The English FA sponsored them through youth training and different tournaments.
We should be respectful of ourselves enough to have our own production line and not be seen as vultures that poach only when the talent has been groomed |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:17pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Na u dey confuse urself. You are trying to put the balance on administration alone. But the fact is club management are also stakeholders in this. somehow: Why are you confusing yourself or don't you know the meaning of grooming again? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:12am On Sep 30, 2019 |
But clubs make up the league. So what are u talking about? somehow: Leagues don't groom players oga. leagues make use of professional players.
Grooming is done by clubs with academies and private academies. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:35am On Sep 30, 2019 |
I never used the word outstanding to start with. But let’s assume I did. How do u get to rate the league based on player quality? How can raw talent be attributed to the league? How has the NPFL helped to groom players?  somehow: You used the word first or you forgot what you typed?
Yes not in top 10 based on organization but not in player quality! |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:18am On Sep 30, 2019 |
are we talking highlights now? isn't the season still young? So we have switched now from not playing for Besiktas or Gala to highlights. The dude will come good this season, then what would you say next? I believe Zuby will do well. He is getting game time and he is starting to make impact statistically. Godsfavour78: you just fall hand even the fat onazi get highlights for turkey pass zomby abi zooby. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:11pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
As a winger he has lots of competition. But there is nothing wrong with wanting to play for your fatherland. andrew444: A good thing for Adekanye
I hope he want to play for naija sha |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:04pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Talking about outstanding, that may be too much to ask for. Just tell me your definition of average and we can make the word substitution. That said, if I called the Armenian league or the Latvian league whack leagues, will you term that degrading? The NPFL not making the top 10 in Africa (according to you) says it all. Then never use that word degrading again. Are all the players in the Armenian league bad? Are all the players in the Singaporean league bad? Think about all the worse leagues, are all players there bad? I've answered your questions with those question. You can't blame the players for the environment they play in. But at the same time they are products of their environment. somehow: Yes the league is struggling and not in the best 10 in Africa IMO Few questions for you:
Are you saying those playing in the league are all bad players?
How many players actually become outstanding abroad in 5 years all over the world?
Use UK as a yardstick
Are the human resource the problem or the league policy makers? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:25pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Player transfers will always happen it doesn't say much about the quality of a league unless these players go abroad and start turning heads. The question is how many of these players are really making an impact abroad INSTANTLY (or even after say 5 years). I remember you responding to one of my posts and claiming the NPFL attracts foreign players. There is hardly any league without foreign players. Your yardstick for measuring the quality of the NPFL is faulty. NPFL clubs are doing badly continentally year after year. That says a lot. UEFA coefficient ranking, for example ranks leagues according to the impact domestic clubs in European competitions. Following the same measurement how would you rank the NPFL to other African leagues? somehow: To those who see nothing good in the Nigerian league. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:02pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
I think it was 2017 or maybe 2018 before the WC ChrisKels: Which of the friendlies please? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:59pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Nwakali is no exception. But the point is he made his presence count charlesemeka85: And u fail to agree that club performances attracts invite from national team coaches?
If not for paddy paddy runs u think Nwakali will get a sniff of the u23 team if club performance is considered? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:57pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Na by when league go start BascoVanVeli: No it is my fault that the league has not started. Sorry oo  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:38pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Nice warm up for some of our U23s lol. Now let’s look to fortify the team. tbaba1234: WAFU team starting lineup
Togo 1 Nigeria 0 |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:30pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Please expatiate. Why is the blame on Pinnick? BascoVanVeli: Yes insult the players but exonerate that ediot u call a messiah. Pinnick has destroyed our league only someone who cannot reason will think different |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:29pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
It’s not like many Nigerians will feel the impact.  BascoVanVeli: How about we shutdown the whole league? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:28pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Agreed. Let’s not be blinded by club performances alone. Same reason why I said Kelechi Nwakali has done well for the u23s Ndidi has been pretty good with SE but not as good as he has shown for club. This could be due to other reasons like how the team is set up etc. komekn: For me that's the key issue.
Unless players are given opportunity how will we know that they are better or as good as the players already selected.
Another issue is that you may indeed be doing pretty good in your local club and league it may not necessarily transfer with same impact to the national team the SE.
Considering how good Vardy is with his blistering pace albeit very limited technical ability as well as skill. He has not been able to have the same impact in the 3 Lions. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:06pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
What would u say about the Argentina friendly then? I won’t be surprised if we we went back to our old ways. Lol. tbaba1234: Two key differences in the Ukraine attacking performance and the nations cup.
1. Movement : There was constant movement in our transition play. Iwobi, Osimhen, Kalu and Samu were constantly moving. In the nations cup, Ighalo stays static and Musa hugs his wing.So that dynamism was lacking going forward.
2. The late run into the box from midfield: Aribo got into the box several times. The first goal against Ukraine would not have scored at the nations cup because there were usually less bodies in the box when we are attacking. Ighalo looked isolated in the box sometimes. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:59am On Sep 29, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:56am On Sep 29, 2019 |
I remember Senegal friendly.  was it? ChrisKels: I have never seen u this truthful and concise. Ndidi hasn't had a single top class game in the eagles shirt since his debut. He cuts a different figure from what we see in the East Midlands, he comes here with a high shoulder, and hardly plays to instructions, hence exposing the backline he ought to be shielding. Yes Etebo is a carpenter, but I will select him ahead of Ndidi. Ndidi needs a real competition and should not be a sure starter, he has to earn it. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:53am On Sep 29, 2019 |
 He was average at best. Wasn’t invited thereafter, and nobody complained. Clementoke: Esiti did well against Zambia at the Levy Mwanawasa stadium. He helped quenched the attacking moves of the chipolopolo in the WCQ then. My Opinion. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:52am On Sep 29, 2019 |
For the Nigerian U23 team. I’m not talking about if he deserved to be invited. But he’s done pretty well in National colors for the U23. komekn: U23 is at best indicative of quality if you are 21 and you are still talking about youth football your career is on hold.
U 21 players these days are playing first team football if not at thier parent club then on loan.
Nwakali is constantly on the radar of so many fans here. There is no basis beyond old youthful glories. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:48am On Sep 29, 2019 |
Yes competition should be encouraged always. But some players are almost always guaranteed to start. komekn: I think you are being political correct and don't want to get tagged a HATER.
Nobody should be untouchable in the SE all positions should be up for grabs and competition that's how you improve IMO |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:44am On Sep 29, 2019 |
i agree with you to some extent. BascoVanVeli: Ndidi should not be a sure starter. The only thing meaningful he has done lately was giving away the silly free kick that did us in AFCON. He has not translated his Leicester form to the SE as of yet. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:18am On Sep 29, 2019 |
No doubt Esiti has lots of minutes under his belt in Europe. But he has never shown for SE. Two caps now, and we are still waiting for him to convince. But like I said earlier, we have several players who got their chance again and again especially in the DM role. So no double standards here from Rohr. Zuby's time will come. andrew444: Ask anybody here, i am ndidi number 1 fan here, i call him world class, so if you thinking i am trying to say others can do what ndidi is doing then you are getting me wrong, as far as i am concerned only ngolo kante is better than him in the EPL
You have a point thou, but you know rohr wont start aribo ahead of etebo sha , i have always supported zuby but i prefered esiti ahead of him but esiti was somehow in the last game, but i wont judge by that thou |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:59am On Sep 29, 2019 |
Aribo surprised Rohr.. But that only happened because of Ndidi's absence. Aribo won't have started. andrew444: Lol and you think etebo will not start, so you replace etebo with aribo?
Hope you know who is the coach? so keep on dreaming |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:52am On Sep 29, 2019 |
Nwakali hasn't done badly with the U23s. However, he is not an SE material yet. charlesemeka85:
no be so dem take hype kelechi nwakali? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:50am On Sep 29, 2019 |
Etebo and Zuby, how similar? You are not going to go far in tournaments without a good bench. balorx: aribo is the best bet.... zuby doesn't bring anything special to the team and I don't see him benching etebo cos of their similar style of play Ndidi-aribo-iwobi |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:48am On Sep 29, 2019 |
i never see that post oh.. make I see am make I laugh too  jihday: personally I'm not bashing him, I don't have anything against him but for someone to say he's better than Ndidi or he's some sort of Zidane-Modric-Kante in one body that's what I don't understand |