Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:45am On Jun 14, 2019 |
I was surprised they beat S.Korea. Let’s see how far their crappy game will take them in this tourney. All the best to the SF OMANBALA1: You guys actually watch Super Falcons ...lmao. When I never ready to have a cardiac arrest. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:43am On Jun 14, 2019 |
Maybe we should fire Rohr and employ the SE coach Nacho was banging goals under. TheGoodJoe: “But the way Liverpool played, with the ball on the floor, and being released very fast to my feet, gave me a chance against the big guys." Suarez on how he likes his passing served.
This is why I am against Rohr’s system because it does not suit the way to get the best from Nacho. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:36am On Jun 14, 2019 |
Let me say I started having a good feeling about this SE since Rohr mentioned 3-5-2. This formation will work better for us if well executed. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:32am On Jun 14, 2019 |
Personally, when a player is performing I praise him and call for his continuous invite, when he is not and somebody else is deserving, I switch sides. They are several payers I have rooted for in the past that I’ve not mentioned their name in a while. The problem is some will praise a player no matter what. How different are they from other monikers who have favorite players and will call for their continuous invite even when their career is downhill whether based on tribe or not? Sentiments na sentiment. Iheanacho is not performing for club or country. Wetin again? At some point Prior to the World Cup he had great stats for SE. I supported him wholeheartedly then. The SE is for Nigerians, and there are many Nigerians our ther homegrown or foreign grown. SE no be any player birthright. Icon4s: I don't think the like for Iheanacho is tribally rooted. Some of Iheanacho's strong lovers right from time are not Igbos: notefully : TheGoodJoe, Bascovanvelli, Humility, Joebie, Tbaba1234, Joseph1034 among other. So there is no basis for you to want to link the call for Iheanacho to tribalism.
And please keep that tribalism talk away. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:26am On Jun 13, 2019 |
 Icon79: To be fair, I don't disagree with anything you just said but I just don't know how and why I found the bolded quite funny.
I actually laughed out LOUD, believe it or not.
O pari |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:43am On Jun 12, 2019 |
I would like to see us try it against them. jihday: did the coach confirm 3-5-2 or just some newspaper talk? anyway we'll know better by this weekend when we play Senegal |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:42am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Rohr hands no clean. I dey suspect am since that time he support he former assistant. Mickael2: If Keshi attempts something like this, Egunje will fill this thread by now. Who takes an injured player to a tournament when other GKs are available? Corruption |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:38am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Our Full back positions is still suspect. I think that’s the main reason. Danielnino00: Rohr's choice of a 3-5-2 formation may not be purely for tactical reason...I suspect that he wants to include some of his favorite players in the lineup...
In defence, Balogun despite his lack of game time is still a very valuable player in the GWG..and Omeruo despite being third choice CB just had the best season of his career.. There's no way he would be benched. So its three at the back..
He will pick Kalu ahead of Aina at RWB I'm sure of that.. and Collins at LWB.. Musa and Ighalo up front...
The direct consequence of this is that we won't get to see much of Chukwueze and maybe Onyekuru too..
I hope we don't use that formation.... I don't see the need for it against African oppositions . Not even against the glorified Ivory coast and Senegal team... |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:36am On Jun 12, 2019 |
3 gbosuas for you Manu Garba edi287: MANU GARBA: IHEANACHO DOESN’T EVEN CALL TO SAY HI
2 Comments / COLUMN, INTERVIEWS / By Solace Chukwu / June 10, 2019 / Africa Cup of Nations, Kelechi Iheanacho, Manu Garba, nigeria
There is a good argument to be made that, over the last decade, there is no more influential Nigerian coach than Manu Garba.
His name entered the mainstream consciousness in 2013 when he led the national under-17 team, the Golden Eaglets, to victory at the Under-17 World Cup in the United Arab Emirates. Before that, he was a part of the coaching crew for the previous success at that level, as an assistant to the late Yemi Tella back in 2007.
That is not, however, an achievement that is particularly unique. Nigeria is historically the most successful country in the world at that age group, and the likes of Fanny Amun and the late Paul Hamilton have also led sides with considerable talent but questionable eligibility to success.
What sets Garba apart, besides recency bias, is the style with which his side beguiled the world, and the sheer output of his group of youngsters. A free-scoring, counter-attacking style saw the team plunder 3.25 goals per game over the course of the competition, a staggering number considering football’s fundamentally low-scoring nature.
Understandably, Garba evinces a great degree of pride at having defied one of football’s fundamental truisms, and in his discussion he gravitates time and again to that 2013 side. So what made them so special, so cohesive, so irresistible as an attacking force?
“That team had an abundance of talent, but not only was the squad talented, we had ample time to stay with the players,” he says.
“Honestly, we had the opportunity to teach them all that you need to teach a player in terms of playing and performing at the highest level. To be fit technically, tactically, physically, psychologically and mentally.
“So we knew what every player could do at any moment. In fact, even in that team, you could close your eyes, pick a starting 11, and everybody would function very well, because there was a synergy. They were used to each other. The team was just like a family.”
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“…just like a family.”
The base though, the platform on which it was all built, was talent. The ubiquity of natural footballing ability in Nigeria is now almost anecdotal, but it is easy enough to understand when one considers the mostly unrivalled popularity that the sport enjoys in a country of over 100 million people.
That fact has not always translated perfectly though, as the recent outing of the national under-20 team at the World Cup in Poland attests. However, in terms of identifying and harnessing the talent pool, Garba stands out: both in terms of quality and quantity.
This eye for talent in its primal state, along with his emphasis on creating the right mental and physical environment for his players – for instance, he talks up the underrated benefit of a proper night’s rest both as a key part of player performance and as an excuse to restrict the use of mobile devices – is what has defined a successful coaching career to date.
A midfielder in his playing days, he captained El Kanemi Football Club for over half a decade, winning back-to-back FA Cup (then known as the Challenge Cup) titles in 1991 and 1992, and losing out to Egyptian giants Al Ahly in the semi-final of the old CAF Cup Winners Cup with the Maiduguri side. He describes himself as having been “naturally gifted with an abundance of technique”, and while it is not beyond the realm of possibility that this assessment is slightly massaged, it has certainly informed his preference when it comes to talent identification.
“What I look for in a player is technical ability: if the player is able to control the ball very well, can pass very well. Technique for me is paramount.
“After technique, a little bit of awareness of what to do in particular situations. That too is very important, because they say a good player is oriented all over, including his movement with or without the ball. Even at such young ages, I try to find such players.”
It is that technical excellence, as well as lucidity in decision-making, that so defined his 2013 team, and made them lethal on the break. Set up in a 4-3-3 shape, and with Garba encouraging expressionism and near-total positional freedom, that Nigeria side tore through opponents, scoring 15 goals over four matches against Mexico and Sweden, the competition’s next best teams.
The front three comprised, first, Isaac Success and then Liverpool loanee Taiwo Awoniyi, lightning-quick forward Musa Yahaya – Garba insists he was the best player in that entire tournament, and is “surprised” at the lack of progression of a player with potential to be “one of the best players all over the world” – and a certain Kelechi Iheanacho, whose exclusion from Nigeria’s final squad to this month’s Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) has cause a stir.
The Leicester City forward has struggled to find his feet in the Premier League after an initial promising start at Manchester City. In the season just concluded, Iheanacho played barely over a thousand minutes in all competitions for the Foxes, scoring twice; in March, he was dropped from the national team after coach Gernot Rohr expressed concern over his focus and mentality. His inclusion in the provisional AFCON squad was widely considered a last chance to win back his place in the team.
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Iheanacho has struggled to find his feet at Leicester
It is a long way to fall for a player who won the Golden Ball in 2013, and on whom the hopes of a nation had come to rest. It also means that, of the players who passed through Garba’s hands, only Wilfred Ndidi, Francis Uzoho and Moses Simon will be in Egypt.
While the 53-year-old admits it is his “personal joy” to see those players in the final squad, he is rueful about Iheanacho’s promise, which now appears to be ebbing away: he has been “watching from a distance” and directs some of the blame toward the player’s handlers.
“I don’t know whether it has to do with personal problems, psychological problems, or lack of adaptation with the players he plays with.
“We expect their managers to be monitoring their performances and their way of life too, which is very paramount. Even when they’re not at their clubs, even on holidays, they are supposed to be monitoring what their players are doing. But unfortunately most of such managers are just after the money.”
While he is wary of making any definitive judgements on a player who he admits “doesn’t even call to say hi” – the revelation, while devoid of rancour, is tinged with disappointment – he makes some pointed observations about African players in general, and why they fail to fulfil their potential.
“One of the greatest problems is that most African players don’t know how to manage success. The moment a poor boy from a poor family background begins to earn big money, some of them forget the career entirely that brought them into such fame. They lose focus and begin to buy expensive cars, and living expensively instead of concentrating on the game.”
This inability to manage success, in his mind, is down to a deficit in education.
Nigeria has a literacy level under 60 percent, and a lot of its most talented footballers through the years have sprouted in underprivileged areas and the inner cities. With footballers earning increasingly mouth-watering pay packages, that image of success sees a lot of them opt out of school in favour of pursuing a full-time career in football.
Garba, a graduate of the University of Maiduguri who paid his way through school by playing in and earning prize money from sub-regional football tournaments, is acutely aware of his responsibility to steer his young players toward education.
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“Education is a great bane to African players, because most of them lack the educational background to take care of themselves personally. So, (a combination of) education, getting huge money suddenly and then failing to manage that success are some of the causes of why African players cannot make it great.
“I tell some of my players that, for us, even when we were playing, we didn’t leave school.
“Life after football is very important. Even apart from regular school, there are some of these schools that they can employ teachers to come and teach them (privately), or part-time. Earn a certificate somewhere. At least they will be able to communicate very well, to know they dos and don’ts wherever they go. This will help to enhance their life after football.”
His passion in this direction is clear, especially when he speaks of his children’s academic achievements, eyes agleam, and he remains an avid learner himself. He holds a CAF A Licence, and admits he has picked up “one or two things in brainstorming sessions with colleagues”, as well as by using coaching resources available on the internet.
While he acknowledges that talent identification is not an exact science – “Players come in different generations,” he says – his desire to find and groom the best continues to burn brightly, even as he prepares another crop for the 2019 Under-17 World Cup in Brazil.
Source - thesupersub |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:56am On Jun 11, 2019 |
I never compared their game time. I only said Balo played his role better when he got his chance. KC is a forward. There are other forwards who deserved an invite. Same can’t be said about our defense department. Taliban: OK my brother as me no sabi argue, you win. However I doubt balo had more game tme this season than KC. I think Rohr did the right thing by inviting KC to at least according to him assess him first hand. Balos bench warming was so bad that he didn't make match day squad towards the end of the season not to talk of making any cameo appearances. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:38pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Balogun had little game time and he played his role well. But did KC? Also we don’t have much defensive options. We had other forwards performing at least. Besides KC has been underperforming for SE for a while now. Same can’t be said about Balogun Taliban: You know if we stop at that point, Balo won't have been invited. So both professional bench warmers were invited to be assessed during training and as you know, the training sessions were enough for one person.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:16pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:38pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Those fans dey craze. What’s the table looking like now? DrLikita12: My understanding is that the penalty brought it to 1-1. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:32pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
U mean without the penalty goal? DrLikita12: It was a draw 1-1 |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:30pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Isaac Success is another player that is not serious about his career. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:28pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
No, not in the media. DrLikita12: He should but there is no need to bring up something like this right now. It was over six years ago, he was a kid then and this is unprofessional from a coach. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:27pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Good. Been waiting for Pillars to lose. Let’s move on to the next round of games. I think Akwa will win it. DrLikita12: Kano Pillars' fans invaded the pitch with dangerous objects after their game against Rangers. Rangers got an 87th minute penalty which annoyed Pillars' fans. There are videos all over twitter |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:23pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
So many players have been dropped from squads in the past and players will always be dropped as not all players can make the list. Heaven will not fall. KC must suck it up like other players do. It’s up to him whether he decides to sit up or not. DrLikita12: Maybe he's unaware it's 2019. Iheanacho needs more people to encourage him not tear him down. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:14pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
How did KC make the list in the first place after u don observe? charlesemeka85: Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr has inferred that the decision to axe Leicester City striker Kelechi Iheanacho and Rotherham United defender Semi Ajayi was taken before yesterday's friendly before Zimbabwe.
The German revealed that he had been monitoring the performance of Nigeria players before they stepped foot in Asaba, adding that it was difficult for him to rate the players because of the rainy conditions in the friendly vs Zimbabwe.
In truth, Rohr already made it clear from the word go that he was dropping a striker and a midfielder, and Iheanacho and Ajayi fall into the category of players.
''You cannot judge from one game in these conditions. We already have our opinion before the match because we observed them throughout the season and we saw what they did and also all week in the training sessions,'' Rohr said post-match.
''We had seven training sessions to see the fitness, confidence of the players. It's not this match alone that will give us a decision on the two players we have to drop.''
As many as seven players classed as offensive players were given a run-out against Zimbabwe, but Rohr has stressed that won't be the case at the Africa Cup of Nations.
''You see that we played with seven strikers, all the strikers who deserve to play. We started with 3 strikers, the others came in.
''Normally in a match you cannot bring so many strikers. We played with a lot of offensive players.
''We have Chukwueze, Kalu, Henry, Osimhen, Paul, Simon also. The choice of dropping two players is really difficult for me,'' the former Bayern Munich defender concluded. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:42pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
They had a good tournament. A TEAM Senegal should be proud of. They can only hope to do better next time. iSlayer: Senegal equalize at the death. AET 3 - 3
Penalties. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:38pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
We will not be playing in Asaba come AFCON. I’m HOPING for some good play at least. Meliforme: It will be difficult for our darling Super Eagles to beat any opposition on that Asaba pitch. We rely so much on wing-play. The pitch layout does not allow good wing-play. Our widermen needs width to draw out the opposition defense. Any opposition coming to defend against us with good zonal marking strategy can keep a clean slate, as they do not need to do much to clip our forays. To defeat any team on that pitch, we should retain the ball in our own half to draw them foward and then release long balls to pacy fowards with good finishing skills. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:37pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
The problem is we are either stagnant or regressing. These Super Falcons have been at this same level for decades now. Other African countries are catching up. Shouldn’t we be catching up with the likes of China, Norway, USA?
And nobody is asking why. Others will want to defend mediocrity. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:22pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
Thanks mank1234: Pillars 7pts Enyimba 6 Akwa 5 Rangers 4 Lobi 3 Ifeanyi 0
2 games to go |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:18pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
Nice fight. What’s the update in the super 6 table? mank1234: Rangers 3 Akwa 3 FT |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:16pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
it’s another matter when u have hope and u are brave. Meliforme: What is wrong with having hope? Hope is for the brave. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:47pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
My people never learn. Always having hope mank1234: After all this years our women cannot improve their games. South Africa would have played Norway better than this. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:46pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
 darkelf: So we couldn't beat Zimbabwe
Abeg, I no watch match. What happened exactly? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:45pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:58pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Sounds good. mostob: '...and one tall one' ... lolz Rohr is such a savage. I think with the above article, kelechi and Shehu supposed to be dropped positional -wise. Kalu and Simon are the first choice WBs... Collins and Aina will be the deputies. ... since Rohr no mention kelechi as striker, him case don close be dat abi? Anyway, what do I know? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:54pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
 chrisooblog: if KC was getting half the abuse iwobi gets from his own fans he would have retired since. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:53pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Players when never smell Naija shirt no need support? How is this different from Aigbogun’s stunts? TheGoodJoe: When someone is down, he needs support, not threading on.
Finito. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:57pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
At the end of the day Rohr na Rohr. See u all when the AFCON begins. |