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Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 8:39pm On Dec 08, 2018
I think icon is following the usual convention. But I raised a similar issue. When the categories are more appropriately named, there will be less issues. Since men and women don’t play together or against one another, it’s better to have separate awards but equal number of categories. That’s my own opinion.


safarigirl:
it is quite unfair to remove the Falcons from all categories of Nigerian football and relegate them to one measly category, even though they have done more for the nation's football than the male team could ever. Disrespectful even..... But it is what it is, I guess.

However, calling this a "Nigerian Footballers Award" is laughable if it is more of a Nigerian Male Football team award, remembering that the men did nothing this year compared to the women.

Let me modify sha sad


Troost-Ekong has just one goal for the Super Eagles, can't recall the team and Google is barely helping
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 8:32pm On Dec 08, 2018
Will work on it tonight
Icon4s:
Safarigirl we are still waiting...

Meanwhile Joebie, hope ur collation is up to date, pending when safari drops hers.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:33pm On Dec 08, 2018
Let your league one players come and play in the NNL and NPFL na If them go survive. What of the plethora of players in those lower leagues that we will never ever know. Make dem dey do thier physicality etc for there. They still have to cut it at the top to prove themselves.

komekn:
Why would anybody expect that of Nigerian players to go to lower leagues of English football.

Firstly,, work permit rules wouldn't help matters.

Secondly, not all would survive the physicality and intensity of these leagues. I remember watching Elohor Ekpolo at Fleetwood Town struggling to get games or make an impact. A guy who spent almost a decade at Barcelona and played Barcelona B.

It's not pretty, technical pass and move football. It's not pretty and nice it's blood and guts, he was essentially lost.

Development is about maintaining and developing consistency at a top level. Maybe because in my time l have seen so many players promise and not deliver. So I am usually cautiously optimistic. I rarely hype and if I do there must be evidence over a period.

Ages ago l talked about Mousse Dembele as being exceptional it was alleged l was his uncle. Lol by some here.

Jerome Sinclair was one of the youngest to ever play for Liverpool. I admit that's it's very difficult for a young player to get opportunities in Liverpool. However, if you do your considered exceptional.

Well Jerome Sinclair was sold to Watford for £5 million a few years ago, I never rated him then, now he is struggling in league one with Sunderland
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:30pm On Dec 08, 2018
Salah is the next APOTY
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:57am On Dec 08, 2018
How about the Nigerian academies and the grassroots that have produced the likes Okocha, Yekini, Oruma, adepoju, etc?

Those that u have mentioned had to start from somewhere in England - not the Regionaliga etc. Other countries have also produced great players from their lower leagues. It’s not unique to England.
komekn:
The league that the following players leap frogged straight into the EPL from.

Dele Alli, Ademola Lookman, Harry Maguire, Mason Holdgate, Rob Holding, Calvert Lewin, Kyle Walker, etc, etc, are all agricultural players according to your proposition, because they all went from league one straight to the EPL.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:51am On Dec 08, 2018
The point is many players would not go through your preferred route of lower leagues in England, then the EPL. Many will just have to show that they can play at a high level, which Chukwueze has done. Samu’s route to the top is typical of other Nigerian players born in Nigeria. It’s impractical to expect them to go through the nationwide league, League two, league one, and the Championship to prove themselves.

komekn:
Generally speaking it's very rare for first team players to come from league one, on occasion the Championship.

But we are not England and we don't have many players proven and tested and outstanding in the top leagues Of Europe.

So we don't have the luxury of waiting for them to play first in the EPL before we start engaging them.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:23pm On Dec 07, 2018
Southgate (I mean the actual one) should be farming on the league one then — consistently. Why wait till they make the mark in the EPL?

komekn:
Let me tell you something about lower league football.

You can call it carpenter football or farmers football, it's not very technical but it is fast, brutally physical and intense.

It's very very very hard for a player to play on the deck, technical and skilful football in that league. You will get kicked and dragged and bullied. The referees are not that good and the pitches are not the best. In addition your team mates often want the ball in the air not on the deck.

However, if you can still be a stand out technically proficient and skilful player under those circumstances. I can assure you, when you get to the EPL you will be flying.

That's why Dele Alli could leave MK Dons and straight to first team for Tottenham and same season England senior team. I can give numerous examples.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:16pm On Dec 07, 2018
His heart is with England obviously. I don’t know if NFF should have done better earlier. But when a player would rather play U21 football for the other country than play at the senior level for Nigeria, it says a lot about here their heart truly is. Same applies to Billing. You win some, u lose some. No hard feelings

edi287:
Loool for real. Lookman is the only one I'm bothered about.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 2:12pm On Dec 07, 2018
I have no idea. Na only dstv I dey watch for here. I have to see about tuning to local channels
Icon4s:
For those that reside in Abuja and Lagos, please how is the popularity and aerial coverage of CoreTV like?

The SWAN Edo state chapter Vice Chairman, who works with CoreTV Abuja, assured me of the slot after I shared this idea with him. I also intend approaching other popular media outfits.

These awards must not end on the front page of Nairaland. It must get to SWAN and numerous media outfits, The NFF, Rohr and even the players themselves.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:31am On Dec 07, 2018
One player plays against the likes of Barca, the other slugs it out against clubs line Wimbledon. It’s not always about longevity, but instant impact in a very high level.

However, Ebere’s call was long overdue, considering our lack of personnel in the AM position.

komekn:
Agreed.

Why is a young player invited to the SE after just 2 games in LA Liga, its essentially we just don't have many true promising young talents in top leagues anymore. I can totally understand the euphoric adoration he gets but i stand on the side of optimistic caution. i.e. small, small lets not force him to run when he has just started walking.

But is there not some double standard, why have Ebere and Josh Maja not been invited to the SE.huh
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:26am On Dec 07, 2018
I won’t advice any FB winger to commit to Nigeria now. Their future with Nigeria is not certain. Too much competition. They have to be really outstanding to believe they can make the team.

edi287:
Samu's emergence has made sure of it.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 10:30am On Dec 07, 2018
you both can decide. Either way, it will be okay with icon and the rest of us I guess

safarigirl:
abeg icon4s if it's okay, can Supernerd take back his spot?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:42am On Dec 07, 2018
I’m not crying over Danjuma. He is not a big loss. We have several decent wingers who have not even gotten a call up.

tbaba1234:
On Danjuma from OGN

” Injury made him miss the recent games for the Dutch national team but it’s clear to see why he was hurriedly capped by the Netherlands. He isn’t even the best player among the forwards at U21 level, his debut came to many as a surprise but you have to understand his case”, Roland Mark told Owngoalnigeria.com.

” Look he spoke about been open to representing Nigeria at senior level after a game for the U21s. Coach of the senior national team of Netherlands Ronald Koeman was among the people who criticised how Tyronne Ebuehi was lost to Nigeria. His move is to keep away from Nigeria, something they didn’t do with Hakim Ziyech who now plays for Morocco “, he concluded.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 8:51pm On Dec 06, 2018
On point!
Icon4s:
Good, right on time.

Please make your nominations. No Time.
Follow the format I set on page 3 . Thanks.

Tbaba1234, Joebie, ChrisKels, Komekn, Forgiveness, TheSuperNerd.
With TheSuperNerd unavoidably not available. We went back to the list and Safarigirl is next in line. She has rescinded her earlier decision of opting out. So she can take TheSuperNerd's spot.

Please let's co-opt her so we can move on. Thanks.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 4:28pm On Dec 06, 2018
Ok then. Do we ignore illegal nominations in the tally?
I guess we still need a 7th committee member to make his/her picks before this step.

Icon4s:
Sample for Collation.

Each Committee member has nominated 3 players per award category. You just count the frequency of nominations for each player per category across all Committee members.
Eg.
1). Nigerian player of the Year nominations: Iwobi 5, Ighalo 3, Musa 4, Moses 2, etc. .Top 3= Iwobi, Musa and Ighalo.

Do this across all the Categories. I am suggesting Sir Joebie to join me in doing this please.

Cc: Tbaba1234, Komekn, Joebie, ChrisKels, Forgiveness, TheSuperNerd.

Deadline for nominations is 6pm (Nairaland time).

Komekn note that u have not made nominations for Most impressive New inclusions as all the players u have been nominating are not elligible. U have till 6pm to tidy this up. Else we move on without your nominations for that category.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 4:21pm On Dec 06, 2018
Let’s set a deadline for Nerdie, if he doesn’t show up still, let’s see if Safarigirl will rescind her decision. If that fails as well we pick whoever won the votes among those tied at 2. We can go ahead and vote now regardless, for this likely outcome.

Modified
I vote Kog45

Icon4s:
Ok, but if we go ahead with the remaining 6. We could potentially have to break some ties in the nominees mentions. Having 7 members in the committee will ensure we have tie breakers. Do we pick some one from the house to quickly join us in the nominations? I know people who would be willing to. Or we just move on with 6 of us and hope voting for breaking of ties goes well.

Cc: Tbaba1234, Joebie, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd.

We have till 6pm to decide this and then move on
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 11:55am On Dec 06, 2018
UK based matter no dey this one. That my alternative award suggestion go sweet am die lol

Icon4s:
No be wetin we dey discuss for that thread we dey come summarize here?
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 11:32am On Dec 06, 2018
grin na everything we go debate? Just make your choice and let’s move on. Some people too like argument sef.

Icon4s:
Please confirm you are nominating Muda Lawal.

BTW I hope u know Oliha won the AFCON and played at the 1994 WC.

Okwaraji died playing for Nigeria in a crutial WCQ plus he featured prominently at the 1988 AFCON and scored in the semi against Algeria.

Besides, when we were considering late players to honor why didn't u come up with Muda Lawal.

If you are nominating him now. No wahala. It is your choice.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 11:29am On Dec 06, 2018
Komekn mind dey our other thread lol
Icon4s:
Why you dey shine teeth.

Leave my guy abeg. E no easy. Lol!
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 10:02pm On Dec 05, 2018
grin

Icon4s:
Brian Idowu debuted in 2017 against Argentina. He is not elligible

And please make the modifications on the original post with which u nominated sake of easy collations.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:37pm On Dec 05, 2018
Na so dem always dey start. See them in the QF maybe?

BascoVanVeli:
Enugu and lobi advance.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 6:27pm On Dec 05, 2018
Okwaraji
Icon4s:
Guys do we tag the Best Midfielder award as Samuel Okwaraji award or Thompson Oliha award? Please indicate your preference.

Cc: TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels, Tbaba1234, Komekn, Forgiveness, Joebie.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:21am On Dec 04, 2018
Oga I’m not taking it serious either grin
ChrisKels:
U really catching feelings over that? Nawa oo, ppl have really lost touch of humour.

The meme attached shudda made u understand I wasn't taking it seriously
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:44pm On Dec 03, 2018
Your opinion and your “likes” amount to 4. Doesn’t mean some didn’t laugh to it
ChrisKels:
Dry joke
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:43pm On Dec 03, 2018
It was joke though.
Icon4s:
Well, but no automatic place for him. He has to prove that he will add to the value chain.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:42pm On Dec 03, 2018
Who is we? Some want him, some don’t outrightly. Others yet put a condition, that he has to merit his place in the team.

mostob:
we don't want him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:32pm On Dec 03, 2018
grin
busky007:
My ballon d or top three
Kelechi iheanacho =lcfc & Nigeria ,Kelechi nwakali = Porto & Nigeria, Dominic solanke = lfc & journeyman
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:31pm On Dec 03, 2018
Tammy declares for Nigeria. Pinnick forgives his son.
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 9:21am On Dec 03, 2018
Final Submission:

My nominations:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year:
Ahmed Musa, Wilfred Ndidi, Alex Iwobi
2. SE Home based player of the year:
Junior Lokosa, Ebube Duru, Ikuowem Utin
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018):
Samuel Kalu, Semi Ajayi, Jamilu Collins
4. Best Goalkeeper (Best Ogedengbe Award):
Akpeyi, Uzoho, Ezenwa
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi Award):
Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Omeruo (WC performance mainly)
6. Best Midfielder (Oliha/Okwaraji Award):
Alex Iwobi, Wilfred Ndidi, Mikel Obi
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini Award):
Odion Ighalo, Ahmed Musa, Samuel Kalu
8. Most improved player (2018)
Ahmed Musa, Odion Ighalo. Isaac Success.
9. Young Player of the Year
Samuel Chukwueze, Samuel Kalu, Francis Uzoho
10. Super Falcons player of the year:
Tochukwu Oluehi, Rita Chikwelu, Francesca Ordega
11. Super Eagles Goal of the Year.
Ahmed Musa (2nd Goal Iceland)
Odion Ighalo (winning goal Libya 2nd leg)
Ahmed Musa (1st goal Iceland)
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:25pm On Dec 01, 2018
Oshoala needs a personal coach.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:59pm On Dec 01, 2018
We are not good in front of goal either. Based on the part I watched we were the better team though. I started watching from the 56 minute mark.

Danielnino00:
Oga u are wrong.. South Africa started brightly but we caught up with them and dominated .. this South Africa team only plays fancy football... they are poor in front of goal...
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:46pm On Dec 01, 2018
I wasn’t surprised she missed that pk

tbaba1234:
I wonder if Oshoala will be selected as a penalty taker.

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