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Although still public, a separate thread is a good idea to reduce distractions.

Icon4s:
Nairaland Nigerian players awards, 2018.

Good evening house, now that we have seen all the matches for this year it is time to roll out nominees for various award categories.

Once again here are the elected nomination committee members: Tbaba1234, Icon4s, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, Chriskels and Joebie.

Please house note that the discussions on the selection process would be strictly amongst these 7 monikers.

First off Committee members, do we discuss on this thread or create a separate thread for the selection process?
Let's get this sorted out first then we commence the players selection process.

Committee members we need your quick responses.

Cc: Semid4lyfe, honeric01.

You have a point. How we make the approach matters a big deal especially at this stage. At least he should be aware we are still interested but we don’t have to make another official move.

Clementoke:
Don't get me wrong sir. I support every move that is directed towards Foreign born Nigerians Akpoguma inclusive. No one is overlooking Akpoguma who I see as a good player. The good thing is that he has been approached after which he asked to be given time to see if Germany might still call him. I see no sense in reaching out to him again before he makes up his mind
If we pursue him too hard, that will be desperation bro. If Akpoguma doesn't play for us heaven will not fall. I hope you remember that Awaziem did not even make the squad for this international matches.

No be fight. The man has his own career just as you do. If his inclusion will serve Nigeria well, then good for us. It’s his choice to make. Ours is to always look at what is in it for us. At the end of the day if we get him, it could be a win-win situation. Honestly, if Uduokhai’s stats this season was good enough, I would prefer an approach in his direction. Torunarigha na no go area.

Clementoke:
In need? Not sure we are that desperate. It is Akpoguma we are talking about here not the Ramos, Boateng and the Koulibalys of this world.
Akpoguma is not in the class of Zaha talent wise.
I just pity am. By the time hin eye go clear, he fit no see chance for SE again

Wetin do Ajayi?

zuchyblink:
We need Billing and Akpoguma in our team. Onuachu deserves a look in. Akpoguma could be the perfect completion of Oyibo wall if we are to play 3 at the back

We are saying the same thing essentially.

charlesemeka85:
we must not wait till he plays for barca or the liverpool first team. secure him first and allow him grow with the team. iwobi who is the poster boy of nigerian football today was capped when he was still playing for arsenal u21s

Why not? They are not similar players. They should be able to complement each other. Agu is closer to Onazi than Ndidi in style of play.

TheSuperNerd:
Yeah... I think we are getting there shaa... Would you play Ndidi and Agu together at same time? Hmmmm... Wellll.... **Scratches head** Still thinking...

Well I guess we have ample time to do his paperwork before the Seychelles game. He is the only real candidate IMO.

charlesemeka85:
yea! eberechi eze

Will he come good immediately if he made the switch? I don’t think he has reached his full potential . But at least let’s secure him for our Olympic team.

Odunayaw:
Ovie?

Ajagun particularly has not been impressive this season. But do we have any other AM options?

Odunayaw:
He raised a point but puts it to death by adding Kayode

Hopefully we line up good friendlies(against African opponents) before AFCON proper, a total of 4 good friendlies both home & away. That way we can test

I didn’t watch the first half. I hope our midfield is finally taking shape. Ndidi, Iwobi, and Agu? Not bad

TheSuperNerd:
Mikel Agu is a quality DM option. I think I will pick him over Onazi right now. Against a solid African opposition like Uganda, Agu stood tall. He may gatecrash the Final 23 if he finishes strong this season.

Honestly, with Onazi away, I think we are covered in Agu but again we need to move in for Philip Billing soon.

Uganda was a solid opposition defensively. Nice test of our forward line. Success looked promising in the absence of Ighalo.

So far, and for now I’m satisfied with Kalu, Chukwueze, Ighalo and Musa in our offense.

In midfield, we can still rely on Iwobi and Ndidi.

In defense, Ekong and Balogun.

The rest still dey audition.

That’s how complete our team is to be realistic if we are to compete with any team. Rohr still has loads of work to do IMO.

At LW only Musa has locked in a spot IMO

I think I'm satisfied with out RW options -- Kalu and Chukwueze.

I just tire for this match

I will watch the 2nd half

gbosaa:
I think you should watch it if you can, they are playing well so far and Osimhen has been unlucky. He has had two beautiful opportunities to score but he missed

Lol we should be paying homage to SA. Or better yet hold those Zoonimals accountable.

Odunayaw:
laslas I know say we no get other option. Na NTA de hold us to ransome

U sure say no be SS?

Odunayaw:
Na NTA i still de call dunghead na

I'm glad I'm not even watching it. This one na another Liberia friendly hahaha

gbosaa:
Everything is wrong with this match. It was scheduled to start at 15.00, then 15.30 but it started 45mins late.

And of all the angles and location to position the camera, it was this!
It’s almost like someone is videoing and streaming from the substitute bench.

This is horrible to watch. Pinnick and co got this wrong. Uganda almost scored with a cycle kick.

Lol. U dey call person that can choose to either do it well for us or not dunghead. Wetin u go all those that CANNOT do it? If they really can, why have they never gotten it right? Na SuperDungHead be that o

Odunayaw:
Haven't you noticed?

There's always a gap of coverage quality when Supersport comes down here to cover any match!

Compare how they cover their own premiership to the nonsense they are showing us

na why I go de everly swear for NTA. We are at the mercies of those dungheads

Nice

Utonwanne:
Off topic

Spain approach Morocco for a joint 2030 World Cup bid together with Portugal

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realpoacher:
Which Supersport channel is showing our friendly against Uganda?


Urgent response please

I hope we get to see 6 subs, and no late subs. — Afelokhai inclusive

TheSuperNerd:
Super Eagles starting XI vs Uganda...

Official....


Chukwueze starts as RW... His NT debut.

Osimhen starts as CF... His first NT start.

Ogu pairs Ajayi in Central defence.

Idowu as RB, Collins as LB.

Agu as DM, Etebo as CM (in double pivot with Agu but with the freedom to roam the midfield and Mark while Agu sits).

Iwobi as AM.

Musa is captain and plays LW.


I like that attack.

Onyekuru and Success both need to start for once. Let Musa rest

Modified
Look at Iwobi. No other AM.

TheSuperNerd:
Yes he is.

Is Success in camp?

TheSuperNerd:
This is not official but it is a probable lineup....

I think SS10 as well

TheSuperNerd:
Yes yes Of course Sir Dan... Super Sports 9.

Alright cool bro

TheSuperNerd:
Well thanks goodness I have cleared that now. It is well.

Im not saying that was your intention. But some of your utterances can have that effect.

TheSuperNerd:
No no no... Joebie... I am not even stressing on the founder tag... Besides the founder is Joseph1013 who gave births who gave births to others like Terzurum5 and Orkperkyandega. They even hardly comment but we respect their legacies.

The truth is I know the AllforJesus Moniker. He is not new here and that is why I had to wade in and ask why he would even doubt or question the devotion of a moniker like TheGoodJoe to the Super Eagles. It was really funny and awkward at same time to me.


Is it not I who did a strong campaign to bring out many of the ghostreaders aka notorious silent crew from their periods of silence to try and be contributing every once in a while? Have you suddenly forgotten that one too? How I was spotting every ghost moniker and giving them random mentions with comments just to lure them in? You don't remember?

So you can see... It is not to restrict anyone. I only wanted AllforJesus to see how wrong he is to even pin such doubts on a moniker like TheGoodJoe. Chikena.

Kai Nerdie everyone can’t be a founder of the thread and we can’t expect the ones who joined later to dig up past moniker posts to know their stance. Also there are situations where monikers change their views. Just correct them when they get it wrong, and move on.

And let me add all ghost readers, guests, etc should always feel free to air their views here. No walking on eggshells. It’s just a forum after all.

TheSuperNerd:
Look, TheGoodJoe may be harping always on aspiring to be playing the best brand of football based on the ever rising attacking talents at our disposal but that is no reason to fault his devotion to the Super Eagles.

Goodness me! What is wrong with some you monikers here? Some of you really have no clue about many things here... How can you even doubt TheGoodJoe's devotion to the Super Eagles? Sir, the rate at which some of you comment here shows you haven't been following.

Las las we go modify the thread name, and we will all still be here. This frenemy lasts forever

safarigirl:
LOL.


Y'all have started with your Real Househusbands of Nairaland reality show again abi?

No need to even go through the pages, I don sabi who dey where already

Anyway, I got an unusual amount of mentions from this thread today and came to see what is going on..... Glad to see the camaraderie is growing strong in my absence

Y'all keep up with the bonding exercise. Can't wait for AFCON 2019 to come and go, so that this toxic thread can finally close and all the toxic elements flushed away. Truly, too many cooks spoil the broth.


Have fun though

Nerdie cool down. Take him on without the insults.

TheSuperNerd:
Listen here hypocrite.... You always ask such St*pid questions whenever it comes to our indigenous Naija born Talents. You always take the route of subtle ridicule when such talent is not English-born.

You claim you have nothing against him abi? You also claim you only ask why he is a huge talent?.....








.... Pray tell am I the one who typed this garbage below (@your post)? Merely the simple mention of the lad being a "Villarreal Wonderkid" in the Pavarotti post made you fly in with your smelly double standards and start ridiculously ridiculing the Wonderkid tag of Chukwueze. Come Komekn, is "stewpid" your middle name? Do you know more than La Liga who ranked him as among the best young players in the league today? Do you know more than we who have seen Chukwueze in a couple of games this season? Do you know more than the Spanish football experts who praise his talents?? Someone called you a spambot and another said you are the biggest hypocrite on here....

For me, I think you are just a shameless grown man in need of a deep seated lobotomy in order to cure your English-asslicking seizures and eradicate your dollopheadedness. You are as clueless as they come mister.... Disgusting!

Not even your twin, Forgiveness will play down on the talents of Chukwueze. He may debate Nacho's talents with me anytime especially as Nacho is experiencing a low now but there is no way he can hold a stone against a Beastly talent like Chukwueze. So if he can be truthful enough to rate Chukwueze, where does that leave you who is only hell bent on the rangers game which was the lad's cameo debut? SMH...

The most silly best and funniest thing about you is that you persist in this silly route and subtle attack on our indigenous Naija born Talents only because you have lost all sense of seeing how really stewpid and unintelligently biased you are. Believe me, that lobotomy will save you more of such hypocritical rides into buffoonery.

Gernot Rohr’s Substitution Timing: Fact or Fiction?
Chuka OnwumechiliChuka
November 18, 2018

One of the biggest gripe or complaint about Gernot Rohr’s management of the Nigerian national team is that he makes substitutions too late and is perhaps overwhelmed by the flow of the game. This is a remarkable claim that warrants investigation and that is what I decided to do in order to verify if this claim is fact or fiction.

Data used for this analysis goes back slightly over a decade beginning with Berti Vogts’ tenure in 2007. Not included, however, is Augustine Eguavoen’s brief tenure as caretaker. First, I only collected data from competitive games, which did not include WAFU or CHAN games.

Furthermore, I also took into consideration only the first two substitutions considering that third substitutions are often held back until late in order to account for injuries and, thus, data from such substitutions could considerably distort results.

Importantly, one data set was missing which is the timing for substitutions made by Manager Samson Siasia in an AFCON qualifier that ended 2-2 against Ethiopia in Addis Ababa back in 2011. Thus, that game was not included in this analysis. Additionally, the data sets for Siasia, Sunday Oliseh, and Lars Lagerback were five or less games each.

The exploration of data for this article provides some surprising findings that are not associated with Gernot Rohr. For instance, it seems that Lagerback leaned towards making quick and early substitutions after the first half. Perhaps, it demonstrated his frustration with the team that he had at the 2010 World Cup. In our data set, he made his first two substitutions all within the hour, statistics not common with the rest of Nigerian managers.

On the other hand, Oliseh and Shuaibu Amodu made remarkable first half substitutions that had nothing to do with injury to substituted players. Oliseh’s quick decision on Lukman Haruna after just 35 minutes in an AFCON qualifier against Tanzania and Amodu’s replacement of Victor Anichebe in an AFCON qualifier with five minutes to the end of the half against Equatorial Guinea in 2008.

In any case, back to Gernot Rohr. Tables 1 and 2 show the results. On Table 1 it shows that Coach Rohr’s first substitutions are not always late in comparison with Nigeria’s previous managers. In fact, his first substitutions are earlier than Vogts’. Thus, the claim of late timing here is fiction rather than fact.

Moreover, Rohr’s substitution decisions are not that different from the timing of Amodu or Stephen Keshi’s first substitutions, barring forced injury substitutions in the first half. Table 2 shows that Rohr’s latest first substitution, which came in the 75th minute against Libya last October, matches a similar timing under both Amodu and Oliseh’s latest first substitutions.

In fact, Keshi holds the record here for the latest first substitution, which came just three minutes to the end of an AFCON game against Ivory Coast, which Nigeria won 2-1 in 2013.

Where the case against Rohr is factual is how long it takes him to make his second substitution. He made the latest of second substitutions of all managers under consideration in the last decade. It takes him 76 minutes to make his second substitution on the average. His fastest second substitution is at the 66-minute mark, much later than any other coach.

The point of these statistics is to show that criticism of Rohr’s substitution timing is only factual when nuanced. His timing of his first substitutions is not unusual. It is the timing of his second that comes later than usual when compared against other Nigerian managers in the last decade.

— ACLsports

Nice!

junnyjake:
Believe me, even as a critic of Rohr, I'm finding it difficult to be definite when calling for his sack.

Because pinnick in recent times have shown that his choices are to be questioned.

If we're to continue with Rohr, a technical assistant should be employed to support him. We've seen Keshi/Okpala worked and when the partnership was broken, we paid for it. Siasia/Kalika worked too. Man management won't take us far.

But guess what? Pinnick would be waiting for Salisu Yusuf on completion of his ban to continue as Rohr's assistant.

Football self No de sweet me like before again, I might just want to take a break, because these things annoys me.