Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:09pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
For one thing, it would be interesting to see how the new format of the league pans out. Odunayaw: Hopefully Rangers bring their good plays & their good luck
Seeing their signings I believe they can do fine, but Lobi? I will receive any results they bring with an open mind |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:52pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
What’s your take on SE performance for 2018?
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:39pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
There is no credibility in their emergence as league winners. Our 2018/2019 continental campaign is all a joke. DrLikita12: Hope they pull through. Their success will be good for our football (especially the league). |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:35pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Yea those two are particularly young. Icon4s: At least we also have Rashidat Ajibade and Anam Imoh. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:27pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Yes the reason for the rebuilding. SA, Ghana and even Cameroon SEEMED to have quite a number of young players though. Icon4s: They are those teams that do not have pedigree at the female Level.
Look at teams with pedigree: Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, SA and E/ Guinea. They presented matured squads. Mali, Zambia and Algeria have presented young teams cos their previous players have never performed. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:16pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Many of the teams in AWCON seem to be rebuilding with young players. You can easily mistake the competition for an age-grade affair. |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 6:13pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Sir Icon4s have u posted the link to this thread on our mother thread, for transparency sake? |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 6:03pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
You already clearified that. You should have just ignored this post. Icon4s: These Awards should be restricted to Nigerians who have doned the Green White Green. Being Foreign born or Nigerian born should not be an issue here. We cannot be giving Awards to players who have not declared for Nigeria or whose nationality switch has not been concluded.
We only have a separate award for the Best Home Based Super Eagles players because they have their separate team which is the CHAN team and also a separate competition and as said earlier it for players who have worn the GWG and they have done so. |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 6:03pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
So I guess no Super Falcons category then? Out thread is devoted to SE actually. Icon4s: 1. Having separate awards for best Attacker and highest goals scorer or highest assists will only introduce ambiguity. Remember we are only naming nominees for the house to vote their choices. Now, Ighalo is the highest goal scorer we do not need the house to vote to decide that. But was Ighalo the best Attacker for the year. This is where players with highest assists and goals scoring threats come in and of course number of goals scored is a vital point. We present the 3 nominees for one category which I suggest is "Best Attacking player" and let the house vote their choices.
2. On Super Falcons goal of the year, you have a point but I don't think that may be necessary. Even FIFA has only one goal of the year award which they select from Male football.
3. Super Eagles most improved player. Yes, I actually errornously omitted it. It should be part of it. |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 6:01pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Alright. It wasn’t clear to me initially. Icon4s: Emm... introducing club performances will only introduce controversies. We are giving awards for performances in the GWG. It makes it easier for the committee to come up with nominees and also makes it less ambiguous for house members to vote.
On your last paragraph . This is the Nigerian Footballers Awards. Award for performance in the GWG. |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 3:41pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
This is just a suggestion for modification. 1. Super Eagles Player of the Year 2. NPFL player of the Year 3. Best Super Eagles New Inclusion (2018) — Open to the new invites in 2018 4. SE Keeper of the Year (Wilfred Agbonavbare Award) 5. SE Defender of the Year (Stephen Keshi award) 6. SE Midfielder of the Year (Samuel Okwaraji award) 7. SE Forward of the Year — For overall contribution. wingers inclusive Now we can have a Top Scorer Award (Rashidi Yekini) seperately8. SE Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less) 9. Super Falcons player of the year 10. Super Eagles Goal of the year. Icon4s: Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:
1. Nigerian Player of the Year 2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year 3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018) 4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award) 5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award) 6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award) 7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award) 8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less) 9. Super Falcons player of the year 10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.
cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 3:20pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Well I wasn’t really sure, which is why I asked. We should name the categories appropriately Modified . I have already made some suggestions. So let’s marry our ideas TheSuperNerd: Yes definitely. In Best attacker, the number of goals will also be factored in both doubt. The main reason I suggest a separate distinct award in Top scorer of the year award is to recognise two kinds of attackers for any given year. One attacker may only be banging in the goals but another may be involved in both assists and goals in a balanced manner and be more impactful in all round plays. It is possible that one can cart away both awards shaa and that is also why I say "sometimes" the best attacker may not even be the top scorer. In all, it is left for us to decide shaa.
Are these awards meant only for Super Eagles and Super Falcons players? Well, the award catgeories seem to suggest so... But I see what you are driving at. Maybe we need to create a special category or two special categories tagged:
- Best Uncapped Nigerian Player in Europe.
- Best/Most impressive Foreign-born Naija talent/player in Europe.
We could also create another award for the home based called something like...
- Best/most impressive player on the local scene.
What do y'all think? |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 3:10pm On Nov 22, 2018*. Modified: 3:43pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Best Foreign Player of Nigerian descent (Reuben Agboola Award) This category should be restricted to those whose international careers are still not sealed. Modified Also, Top Mention for SE Call-up Award Restricted to Nigerian players that do not require an application for change of allegiance. Also Best Player in the Lower Divisions. Only open to uncapped players. These are just suggestions. Maybe we can limit the number of categories to 15 or so. Icon4s: Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:
1. Nigerian Player of the Year 2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year 3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018) 4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award) 5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award) 6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award) 7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award) 8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less) 9. Super Falcons player of the year 10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.
cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 2:49pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
I think in best attacker the number of goals will also be factored in. Are we not looking at their performances for both club and country? I think if we create seperate awards like you are suggesting there will be a danger of duplication like you implied indirectly. I support the idea of a separate category for Assist King. I want to understand something here. are these awards meant for only Super Eagles and Super Falcons players? TheSuperNerd: I am with Joebie on waiting for Chriskels to break the tie as he is also part of the Committee. I trust he will show up whenever he can and soon before the year runs out.
Meanwhile, I suggest a few more categories like:
- Super Eagles Top scorer of the year (That should be distinct from Best Attacker/Best Forward award because in best attacker we look at an attacker's showing across the entire year and not just in a game or two. And sometimes, such player may not be top scorer. We need to recognise the top scorer too because it is not easy putting the ball in the back of the net).
- Super Eagles Top Assists leader of the year (We must recognise the player or players involved the most in laying/putting the ball on a platter for others to score).
- Super Falcons Goal of the year (We cannot restrict this award to the men alone. The ladies do score worldies too. They score goals or don't they?)
- Super Eagles most improved player of 2018 (This is to reward quantum leaps in improvements of certain talents in the team over the course of the year).
- Now the young player of the year is for players 21yrs and under... But what of the Super Eagles best new entrant of the year? Just saying. (modified: I can see that you added it in Number 3... Well done!).
Okay, so these are the few additions I think should be considered too. If I remember any other relevant catergory, I will try bring it up on time. Shalom...  |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 2:29pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Another suggestion. Instead of Okocha and Enyeama why not limit the honor to players that are no more. Say Okwaraji and Agbonavbare respectfully? Icon4s: Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:
1. Nigerian Player of the Year 2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year 3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018) 4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award) 5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award) 6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award) 7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award) 8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less) 9. Super Falcons player of the year 10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.
cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 12:44pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
I also want to add, in future, Chriskels please try to be very clear in your pick. If you say if we can’t do it in the regular thread, we should create a new thread, you didn’t really give an opinion. Tbaba was very clear as to which he preferred even though he said he would accept whatever decision. |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 12:39pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Are the categories below the same, the only difference being the base of the player? If yes, I would like to suggest we name both awards identically. How about we rather say, Most Underrated Top Quality Player (Home Based) , and the same for FB? Icon4s: quote author=komekn post=73198119]
I would like two other awards.
1. Most unrecognised but highest potential top player (home based)
2. Most unrecognised but highest top quality potential (Foreign based)
There is great satisfaction to bring to the limelight top quality players who have never been noticed.
I truly believe that there must be gems in the local league with great potential. But considering our cultural dynamics across all sectors. Godfatherism, inducement, tribalism, etc we never get to hear of them.
BascoVanVeli I'm sure will attest to this. |
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by Joebie: 12:35pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
... Icon4s: quote author=komekn post=73198119]
I would like two other awards.
1. Most unrecognised but highest potential top player (home based)
2. Most unrecognised but highest top quality potential (Foreign based)
There is great satisfaction to bring to the limelight top quality players who have never been noticed.
I truly believe that there must be gems in the local league with great potential. But considering our cultural dynamics across all sectors. Godfatherism, inducement, tribalism, etc we never get to hear of them.
BascoVanVeli I'm sure will attest to this. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:19am On Nov 22, 2018 |
It looks more like a 3-3 result. Because tbaba said a new thread might be best. Even I will support whatever we decide. We are not in a hurry. November is not even over yet. We have to look credible in every step of this so the process is not rubbished. Why don’t we wait for Chriskels to break the tie? Modified New intruders will not be a problem because they can be easily ignored. We will post the link of the new thread here so other monikers can always check. There is no secrecy. But either way is fine by me. Let Chriskels make a pick Modified 2 If we finally decide on creating a new thread I would want to suggest we give it a deceptive title. At least that will check the issue of intruders for those who have that concern. Icon4s: Forgiveness, Komekn and I prefer it here. Joebie and TheSuperNerd prefer a separate thread. Tbaba's landing is to go with whatever we generally decide. It was at that point 3 against 2 and so we go with having it here. We have to make progress on that as we have spent 2 days already taking that decision.
Nothing wrong having it here so peeps can see the selection process and so not to cry fowl when the list of nominees is it.
But remember no contributions from none committee members. It is that easy.
Besides, creating another thread will give room for Intruders, who do not know what this is all about, to evade the thread and possibly cause distractions. But we here know the rules alreeady and will more easily abide by it. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:34pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
We have the players. But we need to play better as a team. Keep it simple. Icon4s: Our Falcons can beat them, forget. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:34pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
I lost count of the goals seriously mank1234: 7:1 |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:13pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
It’s sad Nigeria were wasteful. It’s SA 8-1 E.Guinea |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:32pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Hahaha. Oshoala would have even missed a pk today. busky007: Wetin do oshoala she 4 Don carry top scorer 4 dis match only Mtcheew
Dat Zambian keeper suppose buy oshoala crate of mineral and thank you note
Just see 11-0 |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:31pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Zambia were piss poor. Well, Oshoala can overun any defense. If only she had finesse in her game. Ajibade reminds me of Kanu somewhat. tbaba1234: Watched the last few minutes, so many missed chances..
Much better than the first game |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:28pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Ordega MOTM. Well deserved |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:22pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Why do we like making things difficult? We could have easily beaten Zambia 10-0 |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:08pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Dem tie Oshoala leg for village |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:09pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:01pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Before daveP: So Chukwueze has a brighter chance of going to Cameroun than Nwakali!? Isokay. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:29pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
Good day!  My day has been wonderful so far. I hope yours has been as well DrLikita12: Good morning, Hope you have a wonderful day  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:27pm On Nov 21, 2018 |
To elaborate on my position TheSuperNerd: Creating a new thread for it will be okay and I think better. Doing it here will mean it will be muddled up in all the discussions and news that will always be dropped here. Let's give it its own thread to deliberate on and then of course any other moniker can always come observe if they want, after all it won't be a closed thread.... and I trust they won't constitute a distraction on that thread.
I don't think I support the WhatsApp idea. Not about to give out my personal contacts just like that. Shalom Dad. That is my take. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:20pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
Very special mentions to DrLikita12 , Mickael2 , do4luv14 and Icons79
I hail una o!!!! |