₦airaland Forum

“Racism is a kind of tribalism”
I like that

komekn:
100% correct

In reality no matter how qualified you are irrespective of your Queens accent, yoi are not really English. It's called racism it's a kind of tribalism.

I really do not feel completely at home in England that only happens when I'm in Nigeria.

We are saying the same thing

safarigirl:
south south is a region, it is not an ethnic group and cannot be an 'identity'. You are Urhobo, your identity is 'Urhobo', you and an Anioma man may be South South, but your traditions are greatly different and if you had to speak your language with each other, neither of you will understand each other.

If they say they are from South-South, so be it. Why una dey kill una self? Tomorrow they may want to cross over lol

safarigirl:
Joebie doesn't visit politics section, so he isn't familiar with the term "we South South"

Safari watch match. Let the guys worry about that lol

safarigirl:
what a moniker

What if I said the people of the east and make a very disparaging remark?

Do well to be specific, but you have to respect their position anyway. I won’t go dirty with u. Trust me

ChrisKels:
I said the people of "we South South" maybe u dont know what that means, those u kno, know. U are an urhobo man, that means u have an identity, those who allow Nigerian politics give them identity crisis are the "we South Souths". If u follow na u sabi. Bro if u wan hit your head for wall, I dont care. The day u ran into me, I didnt let it bother me rather I checked myself and it never made me stop reading ur posts. Like I said I remain ur fan in terms of sports commentary especially ur once jupiler league coverage but Dat will never make me spare u whenever u go wrong. Dats my nature. So once again, if u like hang urself, he will always like ur good posts and knock u hard when u err. I remain a fan though

Yess 1-1

Wahala dey

tbaba1234:
Ghana score..

GBAM.. if an Igbo man grows up in Ibadan and claims he feels Yoruba, who am I to question it? Although aware of his roots, I still have to respect his feelings/opinions. Our constitution needs to be revisited if we really mean true unity. It’s people like you as well as Drlikita12 , komekn etc I would like to cohabit with. If yuh want to cohabit with me there has to be mutual respect. We all have roots we are aware of, but we are TRULY open to diversity.

chrisooblog:
my attitude 2 issues of tribal identity is to respect the opinions of peoples from the said community. If they call themselves whatever name even though their language and culture says otherwise who am I to disagree. Australians even though we know their ancestors were originally from britain we don't say they're british but australians same way americans or canadians even though most of their people originally came from england. Even though some communities in Edo state speak and bear yoruba names we can't insist they are yorubas if they choose not to identify themselves as such. Like you I have met friends and colleagues from kwale, ika areas who insist they are not Igbo. I know a lot of ikwerres also do that as well

In terms of possession and our combinations while in possession we were clearly better in my opinion.

tbaba1234:
I do not think, we were obviously better..

This is exactly why I didnt want that discussion to go political. Some people are so filled with hate. Their feeling of superiority stinks.

We were better for the most part. Sorry rather we had more opportunities upfront. No clear cut ones though.

tbaba1234:
I don't know about creating more chances.. The ghanaians started stronger and ended stronger. We were better in the middle. Balanced game

You are delusional.

Modified

You shouldn’t be quoting me really after I avoided you trying to get me in the mud

Mind you south south-south is a tag as well, and the people of the south-south know their roots as well. I’m proudly an Urhobo.

ChrisKels:
Lol dont let the people of "we South South" catch u Oh, because to them, they aint got no identity and their tribe is South South


I'm a full blooded igbo, from the central igbo land, the Eastern heartland, I know my roots and I have an identity. I'm unapologetically and proudly Igbo. No identity crisis

Nigeria 0-0 Ghana HT

It’s apparent we have created more opportunities upfront. We have to make them count. Ghana may capitalize on their few. On the whole, the Golden Eaglets have been the better side. Ghana has maintained a great defensive shape though.

King of NPFL moniker. Well done for the updates ;Dyou are really repping.

BascoVanVeli:
Stephen Odey opens the scoring for his club in a cup game.

It’s tomorrow. Come back in the morning you go see score predictions for here.

Humility017:
I thought the match is tomoro

Lol I can kind of relate with him here. There is a general mindset with us sometimes that I like to distance myself from, so you may find me using ‘you people’ or similar phrases.

safarigirl:
lol.....he doesn't feel 100% Nigerian. Sometimes, he makes comments that exclude him from other Nigerians, he likes to talk like he isn't one of us.....

Just like some people, he chooses when to identify as Nigerian and when to use the term "you people" when talking about Nigerians

At least you agree with me that the unity question in the constitution is ironic. So how could there be unity when people see themselves so diffferently and people do not have the right to identify with whatever they choose to identify with. Inter-marriage ain’t a thing. I hope you see where I’m coming from?

Icon4s:
I am a Pro-Nigerian but that does not make me ignorant of the current constitution of the Land.

I stand for unification, and unity amongst ethnic groups. So there should be no segregation what's so ever within ethnicities.

Before u call me rigid in terms of ethnic relationships my Children are half Igbo, half Yoruba with little Fulani lineage as my wife's Great Grand Father on maternal side is a full blooded Fulani man

Mid-west, western, northern, Eastern etc are just political tags. It don’t change the tribes of the people in them. Even Nigeria is just a tag — a colonial one.

Icon4s:
The funny thing is that it is those that are distant to the Igbos that try most to prove these things they are saying.

You cannot know my house more than I do.

You sef just be like our constitution, and you are pro-Nigerian. That’s an irony. Genuine pro-Nigerians should be out to uniting the people such that thy can intermingle and choose whatever identity as they please. I’m in support of truly unified Nigeria which is why it’s important that we as a people should learn to appreciate our diversity but still feel free to identify with wherever we may choose.

Icon4s:
Whether he feels it or not, he is Nigerian.

Lol

Icon4s:
Nothing like Warri no dey carry last for this kind one o.

Monkey smart, na wood wey near ish other o.

That’s how he feels. He feels 100% Nigerian

Icon4s:
And Nigeria remains your origin irrespective of the fact that u were born in the Uk

Haha thats the serious problem. A constitution that wants to keep people united. What an irony.

Icon4s:
As as far the Nigerian constitution is concerned, your origin remains your origin irrespective of what you or your kinsmen think.

Are u just concerned about what your kinsmen would think? Do you actually feel Igbo or not?

Icon4s:
I was born in Lagos, I grew up in Lagos. I have spent 98% of my entire life outside the South East. Do u know I can chose to say I am not Igbo?

But then what will my Kinsmen see me as? Igbo.

So u can chose to say u are here or there. But those that truly know ur origin will recognize you with ur origin.

Lol good luck with that.

komekn:
Ok oh

Eshagware I don finish, I comot hand.

Meanwhile I still deh pray make Afcon take place for Morocco.

Oga we have been on this issue for pages now, and I’ve been very careful not to go political for some good reasons.

komekn:
We are in a democratic society with clear established democratic institutions.

These institutions the legislature and the executive have elected members that represents the people. That's Democracy and there are democratic pathways to pursue these matters.

To date not one member of the state legislature and or Federal legislature have raised a motion for seccesion within the area in question. Not one state governor has given his consent or support to this agitation. Might I add the elite class of technocrats overwhelming have been very quiet from that area.

We have people who are not indegenes holding elected and appointed offices in Lagos state. May I suggest that we are possibly seeing the first breaking away from tribal and religious politics that so characterises our political history.

Getting crowds of people to make noise and block roads doesn't equate to overwhelming support.

It reminds me of BREXIT those who voted leave on prejudiced and emotive grounds have discovered how uninformed and misled they were. Now nobody knows what to do. It's become a political nightmare.

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Lol yea they are igbos when it favors them, but not igbos when it doesn’t, because of the creation of that political entity. I agree. But on the other isle SOME igbos would claim they are the same with other people they are actually different from just for political/economic reasons. Such is the nature of man. But I get your point.

Icon4s:
That exactly is the fact I have been trying to point out.

You cannot divide a people that they lose their identity, which is why I say the Aniomas, Ikwerres and the Etches are still Igbos irrespective of the division created due to political conveniences.

Finito!

Aright so they are quite similar.

In my case it was just the act of going to a hospital, not necessarily the doctor or what he administers, because sometimes my parents would have given me rhe same medicine prior to visiting the doc.

Mickael2:
Errr.. Case 1: Take cassava it will CURE your conjunctivitis. Case 2: Let us pray it will help us have a successful surgery. Case 1 is what placebo is about but case is more like quasi-placebo but even if you call it that you won't be so wrong. Then your own case is the perfect placebo because you could possibly be given vitamin C and it would cure you of serious malaria, in fact it is possible your doctor tried something like that to see how you would respond to it and if it works he could use it to save your life at a later time, that's assuming you maintain the same doctor

Ok let’s don’t change the subject. We’ve been talking about identity in terms of tribes. You cant devide somebody in such a way that they lose that identity, unless you go the white American route.

Icon4s:
I had to give you the bigger picture before Zero-in on the North so you will appreciate the relative political collabo in the North, compared to the South, prior to Gowon's Divide and Rule system.

And to your last question, all Northerners did not consider themselves as Hausas but they presented a common Northern agenda in the Nigerian polity. The breaking up of the Northern Region gave Northern minorities more voice in Nigerian politics.

As I said before, Gowon's Divide and Rule System gave birth to what we call the Middle-Belt today, who are more willing to say they are from the Middle Belt than to say they are from the North.

In your example about cassava, isn’t the patient informed about it? I remember when I was young, if I’m not taken to the hospital I won’t get well even if the same medicine is given to me at home. What do you call that in medical terms?


Modified
Lol @human blood. It’s crazy my bro

Mickael2:
From what we know placebo is an end in itself. Let's say you tell someone to take a lot of cassava because they are suffering from conjunctivitis now that cassava has absolutely no effect on his eyes but because a doctor said so he might actually get cured, that's what placebo is...I believe. But this one is just psychologically getting the patient ready to receive the proper treatment which is just a means to an end which is why I said I am not totally sure I would call it placebo but even if you you wouldn't be totally wrong.


Na the devil's copy copy dey confuse people most times, I totally agree. Like some confraternities drink actual human blood and they will be like isnt that what you also drink

I understand that. But if they think their claiming Yoruba or Igbo as the case may be would benefit them won’t they change their identity again? Leave that divide and rule matter. Aniomas know their origin. Don’t they understand an Igbo man when he speaks?

safarigirl:
the Tiv, Berom and Jukun people are not Hausa and do not speak Hausa as a language AT ALL and bear no Hausa names, so they cannot be Hausa

The Ikwerre, Ika and Kwale people on the other hand, speak Igbo and bear Igbo names. This makes then Igbo, same as the Okun man who speaks Yoruba and bears a Yoruba name, he is Yoruba. The divide and rule on the other hand, makes him think he is not Yoruba.


The logic is right on the money.

I wasn’t implying Jesus Christ’s sacrifice was the same. But as we know the devil na copy copy, but always to a negative end.

Modified
Isn’t placebo psychological?

Mickael2:
Errr, I wouldn't exactly call it placebo, it does have an efdct on your psychology which is at the end of the day important in any treatment. Sacrifice originated from God no doubt but even Jesus chose between staying back in heaven and dying for us and besides His death wasn't exactly similar to the sacrifices we learn about in ATR.


Yes Christianity is a modification of the Jewish way of life, every country is allowed to make one or two modifications to suit their own lifestyle which is why it is very funny when people start calling it the white man's religion