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You have a point sha. Is he back from injury?

forgiveness:
He has already started playing and has scored 3 goals with one assist in 8 matches before he got injured.

He is open to the idea but clearly implies he prefers Netherlands by far. To seriously think about it means, he won’t just jump on it after a call up to Nigeria. Whereas, with Netherlands, he will be three in a heartbeat. Very honest chap.

ChrisKels:
Dude has always wanted to repp Nigeria and here he is obviously begging for a call up, but trust the clueless one nah. He is gonna mess up our chances with this boy. For those of u who avnt seen him in action bfor, plz do well to see Brugge versus Dortmund tmrw.

Sir U will have to ask Rohr what he doesn’t like in Kayode. However, I still see him as average based on my high standards. You see he. As far ahead of the others because of your UEFA coefficient factor, fine. Simy got his chance just before the WC and Rohr still has faith in him just as he has in Joel Obi. Ask white Oningbinde.

forgiveness:
Is Simy Nwankwo what we have in Europe? Abeg do your research well.

As far as I am concern, Kayode is ahead of him and I don't think Kayode is average based on his goal return 13, 17 and 24 goals every season.

A player who was always among the top 3 highest goalscorers in all the leagues he was played as a CF and even became highest goalscorer and overall best league player should not be counted among average players.

Since joining Sharktar Doneskt, he has contributed to 4 goals (3 goals and 1 assist) in 8 matches already before injury set in. How can you say he is average?

Hahahaha

komekn:
U don scatter my head.

Eshagware I don tire 4 d mata.

My position is clear. Based on what we have in Europe, our CFs are average at best. I’ve never complained about Ighalo being called up. That doesn’t mean I think he would deliver.

Earthquake1:
U are including Ighalo in your team but if Rohr does so you call him white Onigbide

MY SE LIST FOR THE LIBYA DOUBLE HEADER (Correction)

1.UZOHO Francis
2. NWOKOLOR David
3. OSIGWE Sabastian

4. AWAZIEM Chidozie
5. BALOGUN Leon
6. TROOST-EKONG William
7. OMERUO Kenneth
8. BEYREUTHER Deji
9. COLLINS Jamilu
10. AINA Ola

11. IWOBI Alex
12. OBI Mikel
13. NDIDI Wilfred
14. OGU John
15. ONAZI Ogenyi
16. EZE Ebere
17. ETEBO Oghenekaro

18. ONYEKURU Henry
19. KALU Samuel
20. MUSA Ahmed
21. IHEANACHO Kelechi
22. SUCCESS Isaac
23. SIMON Moses
24. NWANKWO Simeon
25. IGHALO Odion

Well Ujah plays in the Bundesliga and he has two goals now. Ighalo has 17? Na the matter we dey o. How they can translate that to SE.

edi287:
Don't forget Dessers. Looks like Rohr wants a physical striker upfront instead.
Paul Onachu should've gotten an invite by now

Ujah is yet another player who hardly impresses in the GWG.

nelszx:
So if he calls Ebere Eze he'd become paralysed or what?
Ujah ...... It's okay oo

Rohr Reveals The Name Of One Striker He's Planning To Recall For AFCON Qualifier Vs Libya
Published: September 16, 2018

Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr is planning to recall in-form Mainz frontman Anthony Ujah for next month's 2019 Africa Cup of Nations double-header against Libya.

The former Bayern Munich defender has been forced to sit up and take notice after the Mainz number 20 scored in his second consecutive game playing as a substitute on Saturday.

For three years now, Ujah has been in the international wilderness, with his last cap earned in the goalless draw with Tanzania in an AFCON qualifier on September 5, 2015.

His lack of game time at Mainz was the main reason he was not invited to the Nigeria squad for the 2018 World Cup despite a chance meeting with Gernot Rohr at the airport in Frankfurt.

Speaking as a consultant on the Bundesliga on Europe 1, Rohr stated :''We are scouting him, we could remember him for the next games''.

Ujah was a member of the Super Eagles squad at the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup and started the 6-1 rout of Tahiti.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

—ANS

Komekn pls see this

Sanchez01:
ScionofUrhobo, these are very difficult to take in and truth be told, the whole thing seems unbelievable. The history of the Urhobos have from time immemorial being a debate as their are four postulations concerning this same thing

The first is that the Urhobos are the original dwellers and owners of their territory who have been living in their territories from time immemorial. (I find this unbelievable because migration would have happened and that would best explain the similarity between ours and some Edoid groups.)

The second tradition is that the Urhobos left Edo at the end of the Ogiso dynasty in search of more peaceful locations as a result of “cruelty, animosity and tyranny” which pushed them out of the Benin kingdom. (This is most likely to be)

The third tradition is that the Urhobos migrated from Ile-Ife in Yorubaland. (This is not in any way correct. Benin is tied to Ilé-Ifẹ̀. It best supports the idea that we stemmed from Edo, but from Ilé-Ifẹ̀? I don't think so.)

The fourth is that the Urhobos migrated from
Sudan and Egypt. (This is already discussed extensively, all thanks for you. However, I don't think this is true in any way.)

Besides, night in Urhobo is ASO, and not ASUN.

Lol to add to the confusion, I just stumbled on this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/3837004/origin-urhobo-people

komekn:
That's where you are wrong.

Without wanting to loose anonymity my Father was very involved with the Uhrobo progressive Union officially.

I gave a specific example of Origin by linguistics it was not exhaustive and in all honesty I don't have that capacity. My knowledge is not that deep but, I know loss naa.

You may know more than me.

If you want go by number of words, you don loss be that o, because you will have to go further to see if the words have similar meanings. Sometimes by interaction people of different languages may start to share words over time. Which is why you may see more similarities with people who live closer to each other. You seem not to know the history of the Urhobo nation. Sorry to say.

Modified
Sound never deceives. That’s the reason for my earlier modification. Listen to the intonation when they speak.

komekn:
Look at the whole Uhrobo nation which doesn't exclude the Isoko.

And look at the influence of the Benin and the influence of the Igbo. Our languages are dramatically different and have little or any similarities.

But what I am talking about is Origin. If you look at the Uhrobo from Uvwian clan they have a lot of names and a few phrases that linguistic origin with the Benin. Even the name Uvwian seems Benin in origin.

Correct me if I'm wrong but everybody else Uhrobo uses the phrase Oghene for God and the Uvwian Uhrobo use Osanbruwe which is similar to the Benin language for God.

We have a lot of Ibo origins names in Uhrobo much more than Benin derived names consider Okpara inland close to Kokori. That's an Igbo derived name.

But let's be very clear historical origination does not equate to present and current IDENTITY.

That’s the point, “sound more”. Sound can never deceive you. Which is why I know the origin of the “Aniomas”. Now Safari, when you hear an Urhobo speak it’s a whole big different story.

safarigirl:
the Ika and Ukwuani are both more Igbo than Benin

Haba! Komekn, what kind of things are you saying on this thread?

The Ika and Ukwuani have a different dialect, but it is still Igbo. Have you heard an Arochukwu man speak Igbo before? Even the Ika and Ukwuani people sound more Igbo the the average Arochukwu person, if you place them both in front of a Yoruba man, he will tell you the Arochukwu man cannot be Igbo.

The Arochukwu people bear similar names as the Annang- names like Kalu and Udoh, does that make them more Annang than Igbo?


The funny thing is that these people are closer to Onitsha than they are to Benin. Just stick to discussing your Warri axis, leave Anioma out of your funny analysis. Normal normal, those two areas are worlds apart

Different kind of follow

BascoVanVeli:
Calm down my good sir, I follow Awoniyi at Gent anyways.

Ehen exactly wetin I talk

BascoVanVeli:
Lol u no well.

Anyways Philip Azango (Plateau-Trencin) is making his debut for gent right now.

The guys in question still have a decade or so in the game. Hence, It’s too early to make conclusions. But as the saying goes your attitude determines your altitude.

ChrisKels:
My dear, I'm bereft of words. To me, the only player that let his U17 success and the ensuing hypes get into his head, hence feeling he has arrived, sorry to say this though, is my brother, KC Nwakali because kid has been boastful lately while others kept working in silence. I saw his post the other day about him not going to miss Eagles match again after that ATM and our failure in Russia, I was just SMH. To him, he is ripe for the super eagles already even though he hasn't done any reasonable thing in Europe. I thought it was a one off, till he started granting interviews about the Eagles and his chances with the team, then I was convinced Dude is on course to destroy his career.

Chukwueze and Kingsley iMichael have been making inroads in their respective clubs while Osimhen's undoing has been his injury worries. About Nwakali, bro no excuses

I don’t agree with your last paragraph. In terms of origins the general rule of thumb is to observe the cultures of the different tribes in question. Let’s take language as a component of culture. When an Urhobo meets a Bini person and he hears him/her speak how much of the language will he understand, and vice versa? How about when an Urhobo person comes across an Igbo man? I’m not speaking of people who have mingled with each other before. [modified: Also consider intonation]

As regards identity, you are on point, thats why we have to respect whatever or whoever people identify themselves with regardless of their reasons as long as they are not seen changing positions when the weather changes.

komekn:
Just need to correct misinformation.

The Ika have origins with the Benin Kingdom and as such you have a lot of Ika people with Benin names. The Ukwani and Ika languages are dramatically different and would not classed as IGBO in any way. Yes there are Ibo origins but it is not Igbo.

Just like the Itsekeri they have Yoruba origins, indeed in times past OPC has joined them to guide the Uhrobo and Ijaw.

The Ijaw are not in small numbers in Delta state they may not be the majority but they are not small.

Finally, I notice very erroneously that some have equated identity with origin. They are Dramatically different.

Identity is not static it's more dynamic, it evolves, it changes there are multi faceted influences that create it.

For instance the identification of being from Warri transcends ethnic and or tribal origin particularly in contemporary times. That's why AY can describe himself as a " Warri Boy" irrespective of his origins.

The concept of identity can be by adoption or by legal definition and or environmental circumstances. But there willl be a number of irrefutable components to ones identity. Such as oneness, sameness, affinity, similarity, parallelism, these components can create a coming together for shared interest, political and or otherwise.

So let's be clear the Uhrobo, Ijaw, etc have a common interest and share traditional norms and values. Those components create an IDENTITY in the general that we call SS south south.

As to my identity specifically is a matter of choice. But my origin is a matter of fact.

You jump the gun with presumption they are areas with an Igbo heritage and origin. But identity that's a completely different matter.

You should research the underpinning motivation of largely minority tribes coming together under south south. In a society nation that thinks there are only three main tribes.

Finally, Uhrobo have huge Igbo influences infact are more influenced by the Igbo than the Benin in thier origins. That's misinformation.

But isn’t that the truth about life. When you think you have arrived, in a little while u find out u still have a long way to go.

ChrisKels:
Youth football funny sha, while the then more illustrious Osimhen, KC Nwakali, even Chukwueze are still struggling to come up, orji okonkwo is already a starter for bologna


In another news,
Ekong starts again but Aina makes the bench as Udinese take on Torino.

But your boys have a special place in your heart. u dey track them like say na your religion. I just dey pull ur leg sha

BascoVanVeli:
It doesn't take religion to get on flashscore na. I follow all Nigerian players I know about Solanke and Sammy Ameobi included.

Kai na mistake. I even forget Etebo sef

ChrisKels:
Nice list but why omit Obi Mikel in such an important match?

You dey track them na religiously lol

BascoVanVeli:
see why I call you trouble maker? It's not like I am watching these matches live,

Hahaha na open bidding abi?

krattoss:
Just learnt Kaduna has won the bid to host our tier against Libya..
I hope Egypt saga doesn't repeat itself..

Because white oningbinde dey in charge person no get right of free type again?

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Wetin VAR see?

BascoVanVeli:
I think it was VAR that made the call.

The ex local warlords especially haha

BascoVanVeli:
King of trouble making thanks dude I try to follow our boys in Europe in general not just the local one's.

How come it took them so long to notice he handled the ball? Was that even the reason for the cancellation?

BascoVanVeli:
Hey guys check out Ighalo's stunning goal that got cancelled today

In what could have been the Best Goal of the Season, the Referee and his cohorts decided to disallow this beautiful goal. This is a very wrong decision. #Ighalo #Csl #ChangChunYatai pic.twitter.com/ElxlmUbAQS

— Jude Ighalo Fans (@judeighalofans) September 15, 2018

And South Africa didn’t still make it? Lol

gamaliel9:
Mali vs Guinea,Nigeria vs Ghana,,,blood of Moses...what were they smoking?

That match we just saw...would any of these teams match the intensity...guile....craftsmanship...skill....stamina of that?

The future will clear their eyes

They should have made 8 apiece. Then the runner ups slug it out in a neutral venue

Danielnino00:
Yes..9 in Zone A and 7 in zone B

Are there more countries in zone A?

Danielnino00:
I think the grouping was done based on proximity of the countries to each other...
But I don't get why they had to give zone A two slots rather than zone B .. I'm not even sure if the WAFU zones existed before the draw.. if it did,then that's why zone A had two slots and B 1

West Africa still has a good representation. However, we shouldn’t have been placed in the same zone as Ghana.

Danielnino00:
Nigeria . Tanzania.. Morocco.. Cameroon.. Angola...Uganda.. Mali/Guinea... Senegal/Cape Verde

I knew he would make the difference

gamaliel9:
This our goalkeeper na one kind giant ooo but he is good

Sorry Ghana. The dream continues