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AIG07:
Our midfield is non existence

Off course that was my point earlier. The impact these graduate can make in the fast changing world. Those who made impact in the Industrial Age of yesterday will be left behind in this new age and the one after. Universities should be aware of this and should be quick at updating their curriculum to keep up.

forgiveness:
What determines a good university is the numbers of their products that are successful in the society.

UI, OAU, UNN, UNILAG etc have their product occupying prominent positions in key industries both locally and internationally.

When it comes to Medicine Literature/Art, UI, Economic is known globally for producing professionals that excelled in these field.

UNN, UNILAG and OAU also have there area of specializations.

Okay you educated me on lack of synchronized curriculum in public schools. Thanks for that!

Your example is just one case. I know of several students that were dropped from private schools because of their poor perdormance.

Like you rightly pointed out the environment can encourage learning. This can actually go both ways. you cannot draw conclusion from one example. And besides, isn’t it possible that that girl you mentioned improved in her studies because of the learning environment? This environment thing is subjective oh. I spent a year studying in UNiPORT. Honestly some students can not cope with that kind of stress you find in some public schools. Everyone is not the same. Also another scenario, I have a brother who was doing badly in a public university because of cult issues. When he left for a private university he was very serious with his studies and did better. My dad never bribed one day. Make una stop these generalizations o. Private universities are needed, make your choice. Even better ones will spring up. Too much reliance on government funding won’t help us. Education is business as well, but you have to show value

Mickael2:
Nigeria's educational system is not well synchronized that is the problem. UI's curriculum differs from that of other schools, in fact it is very very difficult to see two schools in Nigeria with similar learning structures which makes you wonder what exactly the NMA is playing at. For example in some schools you have medical students writing mathematics in their premedical year and you are left wondering what business they have with mathematics. If all public universities can adopt a working model like UI has done and then eschew all these rubbish about tribalism and special cutoff marks for special people(which even UI has not managed to achieve) then trust me we can achieve anything. I don't even understand how this is an argument.

To your first point I disagree too. When we were in our preclinical classes going for anatomy lectures on dissection we had to use cadavers that were at least 20years old, no joke. Go to private universities and see state of the art equipments yet, no offence to anybody oh, they are still producing half baked doctors who we have to put up with during their residency. The problem with private universities is simple, it is profit oriented. If we can just provide these facilities to students in public universities trust me we wouldn't be here today. The simple point here is that private universities do not provide a proper psychological environment for learning to occur(not physical). As an illustration of the point, a female course mate of ours then failed so badly that what she got was a capital letter W after just our first MBBS but somehow she changed to Bowen abi na covenant and graduated with distinction in Anatomy and BCH same things she failed woefully and somehow you want me to believe that private universities will save anybody

That’s it, and one man dey list projects. Is there a time we didn’t have ongoing projects?

gamaliel9:
You hit it at middle....and drove it in.....NO PLAN.....NO FOLLOW UP...NO SITUATION REPORT ON THE PLAN...NO ASSESSMENT OF THE PLAN...What we see are uncoordinated....lopsided.... haphazard..... non-maintained...sycophantic inspired...ethnic-aligned...projects...which in coming government neglects and begins to build her own projects...having a plan does not mean budgeting money year in year out...EACH PLAN OUTLIVES EACH GOVERNMENT TILL THE PROJECT IS ACHIEVED...Here politicians claim projects...pdp built this...no apc started it...please go and plan your furture ooo...they are planning theirs with OUR MONEY

Developmental plan please

krattoss:
the guy asked for ongoing development, I listed it, what's the difference between development and project

Kai

komekn:
What is Nigeria a wealthy rich nation.

What is your yardstick for wealth.

Of course we have modern health facilities the best that's why our leaders don't have to seek medical assistance abroad.

goodie have outstanding up to date modern fit for purpose public infrastructure,roads, drainage, electricity supply

The best educational facilities ( that's why we don't have Nigerian in large droves seeking education in Ghana, to name just a few).

Our security services are the best in Africa, that's why when called to Mali we were given non combative guard duty. To further stress our superiority, Chadian soldiers came into the North East to learn from us and in the process almost took out Boko garam completely.

Our judiciary is the best in the world that's why IBORI was discharged and acquitted on 70 counts in Asaba but pleaded guilty to more or less the same charges in a UK court.

Our judges are incorruptible and of unquestionable integrity. Corruption is at the forefront of this administration's quest for good governance that it has so comprehensively reduced corruption that nobody of substance has been convicted in the last three years.

Our roads are the best in West Africa once you cross the Seme border you immediately see the transformation in comparison to these smaller countries third world countries with a GDP less than some of our state governments.

Nigeria is the giant of Africa and ahead of the game. A first world nation.

Lol u dey list projects.

krattoss:
yes bro.. Eko Atlantic mega city, reviving of our railway lines.. Acquisition of mig23 fighter jets, mi35 attack helicopters, and strengthening of our military Arsenals.
Increment of nysc allowances, and so much more bro..

We don’t need anyone to define it for us. It’s simple, we. Can redefine the term. But how well off is your neighborhood if you are the only one doing well in it? The middle class in Nigeria is scantily small. But then You have a multitude of very poor people. Some facts are staring in our faces. We need to focus on our needs as a people. But our needs are very glaring. I didn’t say my needs, I said our needs.. and the facts have been staring out faces for decades now and very little is done to change the tide in the nearest future. No game plan, but officers who have a plan to keep on stealing from the masses.

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forgiveness:
Based on that colonial biased mentality ideology analyses, all Asian, Oceania. South America and Africa are third world countries as long as they are from those continents but all Europe and North America are Eldorado on earth. Despite the fact that some of these same African, Asian and South America countries are far developed than some Western Europe and America according to their oluwole theory yet ...


Meanwhile, the brainwashed black man who was made to believe his forefathers were rescued from primitive life to civilization through the help of colonialism, will just swallow hook line and sinker whatever have been told them without thorough research and analysis on their part.

It is high time we start to focus on our own need than rather keep comparing ourselves with others.

We should not allow people to keep setting standards for us.

The advantage medical schools in public universities have is the experience of the medical teaching staff. Private schools can’t beat that of course unless they employ expatriates.
All you need is a pace-setter, and other private schools will want to copy. We have so many public schools that have been in operation, and because they are government owned they are damned to struggle for many more years. However, with private school promotes better competition. That’s needed to raise the standard with time.
One question, please could you tell me how does UI curriculum differ from that of UNILAG for example? I’m not basing this discussion medical school alone. Of course you know medicine is only one course.

Mickael2:
I gave you an example, not exactly a general statement. I mean the dude was my course mate but he failed his MBBS and had to graduate in MCB and graduated with second class upper and that's how he got the lecturing job at Landmark. The problem is that lecturers there sef are not well paid, let me not start what we can't finish. By the way if private universities are going to be our saviour like you put it, then why aren't they there yet? See UI, just little investment and they broke into the top 1000 in the world, if the government could spend half as much as these private schools spend on infrastructure and all what not, trust me we would have at least 10 public universities in the top 500 at least. Forget the long talk, public universities with proper funding would easily save Nigeria's education system

Madam read my post and read your response again. I’m against generalization. In terms of 21st century education standard, no Nigerian public school meets up. Many graduates cannot function if they can’t find a job. That’s the reality of today. You will find some students who take it upon themselves and push harder to develop themselves outside the school curriculum. Those are the ones who do well. You just circled out 3 private schools. Well done! The one I was referring to in my earlier post is one of the 3 u mentioned.

safarigirl:
aside Covenant, Babcock, and ABUAD, you would be hard-pressed to find a decent private University in Nigeria, most of them are just filled with kids whose parents wanted to get rid of them early and bundled them to the first school that would take them.

You cannot compare them to public schools like UNN, UI, Unillorin or Unizik, especially as regards professional courses.

I remember the day Nike University in Abuja visited my school's Law Clinic, we were all scandalized by their outfits even. In most Law Faculties in Nigeria, they make us wear black trousers with white corporate shirts and a tie for guys, with black shoes. These kids didn't even wear the black and white outfit, some of them had on slippers, no tie, one was dressed like batman and another was dressed like she was going clubbing. We were all shocked they would let their students dress in that manner for an official outing and about a week later, when some of us had to visit their school, the DG of Law School had to ask our students to stand up to show the Nike University students how to dress up as a Law student.

If they can't teach them something that basic, what else are they missing out on?

See ehn, aside Covenant, Babcock and ABUAD, every other private school in this Nigeria na wash

“What makes a nation third world?
Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class — with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt.
(What makes a nation third world? from Encyclopedia of World Geography)“

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm

Modified
Definitions from the link:

__ Definitions

point The term "First World" refers to so called developed, capitalist, industrial countries, roughly, a bloc of countries aligned with the United States after World War II, with more or less common political and economic interests: North America, Western Europe, Japan and Australia.

Countries of the "First World"



point "Second World" refers to the former communist-socialist, industrial states, (formerly the Eastern bloc, the territory and sphere of influence of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic) today: Russia, Eastern Europe (e.g., Poland) and some of the Turk States (e.g., Kazakhstan) as well as China.

Countries of the "Second World"



point "Third World" are all the other countries, today often used to roughly describe the developing countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America.
The term Third World includes as well capitalist (e.g., Venezuela) and communist (e.g., North Korea) countries, as very rich (e.g., Saudi Arabia) and very poor (e.g., Mali) countries.


Countries of the "Third World"
Third World Countries classified by various indices: their Political Rights and Civil Liberties, the Gross National Income (GNI) and Poverty of countries, the Human Development of countries (HDI), and the Freedom of Information within a country.

somehow:
People and the use of unguarded words.

Nigeria a third world country?

Does some of you even know the definition of that word?

A country that gives aid both financially and otherwise to other countries a third world country?

Not organised- Yes
But a third world? Please go back to school.

For educational purposes: the word "third world" is outdated and ambiguous. What we have are (1) Developed countries (2) Developing countries and (3) Underdeveloped countries.

You can decide where you think Nigeria belong based on your current reality.


Fully back to this thread after a long time out.

(back to reading).

I just saw this in TVC news bar. I have to verify

somehow:
Can this man be bannished from Nigeria once and for all since he seems to love chaos?

Giwa takes over NFF secretariat again?!

Very untrue. You cannot generalize when it comes to private universities, take it from me. It’s not business as usual in every school. As it stands it’s private universities that would save Nigeria’s tertiary education. As ironic as that may sound, mark my words. I know a private university that graduates fully baked students ready for the REAL world. Many of these graduates who take up running businesses are doing fine. Solid education no be about read and pour out for exam. Take it from me.

Mickael2:
Forget this long talk about private universities. Almost all of them are not even up to any standard. The other day I was with a friend who is lecturing in Landmark and he said that immediately after every exam you will see parents coning around to tell you that they paid millions as tuition fee so their wards cannot fail and what choice do you have? So they create a false sense of academic excellence but even there the learning structure is worse than it is in public schools. I find it appalling that people will want to talk about good schools and add private universities.

then is it hospitals that we will talk about? make we just leave matter for Mathias

Thank you! Sadly, our mentality says “My family and myself are doing well. So all is well”
We need to learn to speak the truth to ourselves. If you want to lie to foreigners, fine. But if we are gonna fix something here, it starts by telling ourselves the truth.

TheGoodJoe:
How does lying help us in any way? The truth can be hidden but not changed. Nigerians are going through hell. The crime rate is going up because of untold hardship. I am in development and I can tell you first hand. Go to public hospitals and see the amount of people that die daily due to the lack of good Medicare.

If to you saying the truth of the plight of Nigerians means saying thrash about the country, then I will keep saying thrash. I will stand for truth and not lies.

If we do not do something about the billions meant for Social welfare, job creation, Medicare provision, constant power supply etc, then things will keep getting worse.

Evil thrives when good do nothing about it, let alone lying to make it look like the crooks are angels.

Finito.

Algerian1:
Algeria have 5 stadiums of 40.000 and more , +++ 4 new stadiums over 40.000 capacity are under construction will be finished this year

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_Algeria

https://www.nairaland.com/4155711/welcome-algeria-pics

plain fact

daveP:
You asked when?


The answer is None!!!

When have we ever hosted without us embarrassing ourselves?

daveP:
The Falconers sef no get pattern. The coach directs every kick. SMH.


NFF should pay good attention to these female cadets. Fitness is always an issue.



See how we disgraced ourselves at Asaba!!!


I knew such nonsense would still come up in this kinda era for Naija. No be naija?


Logistics and Organizing is just wack.


They'll be having LOCs upandan that cannot function and think all possible scenarios that might happen.


Even University students can arrange a tourney and take care of most aspects of such an event.


Na to dey embarrass us upandan Naim dem sabi. with their potbellied Mentality!!! Annoying!!!

all the best to him

jimmyiovine:
Amunike announced as new Tanzania head coach. Reports had previously suggested it was Amokachi. Good luck to Amunike, our ex U17 and U20 Coach

Hahaha

forgiveness:
If it's about hosting Best Afcon, we can do it better?

The argument is not who can host. We hosted, but how good was it OVERALL?
I’m confident the other countries can host it even better, namely Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt. Not if you can my friend, how well?

forgiveness:
Nigeria is not serious yet hosted 1999 FIFA U20 world cup, 2000 Afcon and 2009 FIFA U17 world cup yet none of these so called countries have been able to do that save Egypt.


Besides, you're confused. Stick to either hosting world cup or Afcon.

I’m confused. FIFA or not. We are competing against other African countries to host. I threw in a scenario because it appears you are lowering the bar. The question remains who can present the BEST afcon experience?

forgiveness:
Stick to one argument and stop dabaruing the whole thing.

Afcon of FIFA world cup?

I’m aware of that. Ongoing construction is far different from what is already on ground.
Even after construction, how is about maintenance culture?..

forgiveness:
Can you pls tell me the challenges facing Lagos state transportation?

It seems you don't know about the ongoing airports remodeling and reconstruction pojects currently all over the country.

I’m beginning to believe you. How can someone if high virtue condone something that is not ethical?

komekn:
I have said this before Rohr has been in Africa for a decade, he has survived because he has taken on board our ways bad and good.

That's why he is not shocked with indignation at the Salisu corruption and bribe scandal.

In these matters I always say worry not about what you know, what about what you do not know.

God bless you!!!

komekn:
One of things about development its often measured in comparison.

We are Nigeria not Togo we should make comparison with south Africa and North Africa. That will tell us our level of infrastructural development.

Infrastructure, good organization culture. What are the chances that there is going to be power outages if we host? How about organization lapses? Oga we know our way. How do you compare our airports to those of the lesser countries you have been to? I don’t know about you but when I go to other countries I take special note of their airport facilities and personnel. That’s the first limpression, that’s what greets you about the people. I’m surprised you are quite confident about Nigeria presenting the best AFCON EXPERIENCE, even if we removed South Africa.

Nigeria as a country is not serious about anything except owambe.

forgiveness:
Why not? Remove South Africa because it wasn't long they hosted it.

Now, can you tell what Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco have thatput them in a better position to host Afcon?

Egypt!? Well!

If Nigeria wants to host world cup!

Let me know what you mean by seriousness first before I give an answer.

Rohr’s statement should not affect anything. Rohr cannot clear Salisu. It’s not his job. I don’t even trus Rohr anymore .

tbaba1234:
With Rohr's statement, it is unlikely he will be fired.

You got this one wrong Mr Rohr. From your experience? Abeg tell us those experiences where Yusuf got out unscathed? I see, you both don’t need the money. Kwantinue. If I be you I for shut up.

jimmyiovine:
[url][/url]http://tv5.espn.com/football/nigeria/story/3584755/salisu-yusuf-backed-as-honest-victim-by-gernot-rohr

Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr has thrown his weight behind his assistant Salisu Yusuf, who is the subject of an internal NFF investigation after he was secretly filmed receiving cash from undercover reporters posing as football agents.

Yusuf has denied that the money was a bribe, describing it as a 'token', and Rohr has now come to the defence of his assistant

"I saw the video, and I saw what happened," Rohr told KweséESPN. "From my experience, Salisu is an honest man.

"Those people just want to make trouble, this is people just trying to catch some people," he added. "Salisu does not need that money, he is a victim of this situation."

The assistant coach, who doubles up as the coach of Nigeria's Olympics team and the home-based Eagles, is currently in the UK recovering from hip surgery.

However, he is expected to face the NFF's Ethics Committee upon his return, where Rohr is hopeful of a positive outcome.

"I hope the Ethics Committee will listen to him and not to those people," the German coach concluded, "because I know he is an honest man and a good man."

When the BBC published footage allegedly showing Yusuf receiving a cash gift from investigative journalist Anas Aremeyaw Anas on July 24, he became the latest high-profile African footballing figure to have been implicated in the ongoing bribery scandal affecting sport on the continent.

In footage filmed in September 2017, the coach is shown meeting with Anas's Tiger Eye agency and accepting cash ostensibly to ensure that two players are selected for the CHAN tournament.

Anas's exposes have already resulted in the disintegration of the Ghana Football Association after former president Kwesi Nyanyakyi was allegedly shown accepting a cash gift of $65,000 (£48,000).

Similarly, Kenyan referee Marwa Range had to resign his World Cup post, and was subsequently banned by CAF for all football-related activities, after being allegedly recorded taking bribes.

Range was one of several officials who were handed a range of bans by African football's governing body.

[b][/b]Soo Rohr is backing his assistant, I doubt NFF will sack Yusuf now

The problem is we are not sincere people. Something is bad, we want to patch it up with good adjectives

oloriooko:
Watching SA league and am impressed with their stadia unlike ours which can give one eye sore. We need to wake up and improve our league. We must be transparent in biz deals cuz no one will want to put money where it can't be accounted for.

Yes that too.

AIG07:
Poor pitches as you stated above coupled with poor camera angles makes
the NPFL an eyesore.

See the earlier modified. Then ask yourself since you are well travelled. Can we present a better AFCON experience than South Africa, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt and Tunisia? If all the forementioned presented a bid to host the World Cup for example, rank their seriousness to host based on what is already on ground? Talk truth

forgiveness:
With what will well traveled disagree?

I have been to atleast one or two countries in West Africa, Central Africa, East Africa, Middle East and Asia, so I know we might not be in the same level with the later two but the rest no reach us.

So, there is nothing to disagree about if Africa is the scale S.I unit measurement used to measure standard.

We are not comparing ourselves with America of Europe neither are hosting FIFA world cup.

It's AFCON we are hosting. Can we host best AFCON? Why not! Mind you, we co hosted 2000 AFCON and it was at the time we were not this developed.

But they actually LOOK more talented than our NPFL players. They seem to know the rudiments of the game. Granted our presentation is very poor. Poor pitches do not aid a free flowing game.

AIG07:
Presently watching ABSA LEAGUE match between Pirates and Highlands. Both teams is made up of young boys...

South Africa's problem is not organization but lack of TALENT. Their league is the best on the continent.