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OGN say K. Nwakali added to Nigeria's World Cup squad

lol ANS has a headline, "blow by blow".. na that one u dey talk about? abeg anyone get big gist make he knack am oh.. nobody has the monopoly of posting special reports here..

Mujtahida:
Joebie I still the wait for the blow by blow report as per the headline ooo. Na only blow I don see not blow by blow

Forgiveness only called Nwakali a flop in the context of club football na.. Or let me rather ask him, how would you rate K. Nwakali's performance against Atleti?

andrew444:
Good point.

Humility pleaded for nwakali inclusion and nobody will call him a tribalist ask me why? Because you will not see humility downgrade others players and bring up his own just as forgiveness always do.

I defended nwakali when forgiveness call him a flop and i am still the same person that says nwakali doesnt deserve a spot still after the world cup,I will not praise mr A and bring down Mr B.

Everybody has their own opinion.

I think it's purely based on invitation. We are invited sometimes.

AIG07:
what has happened to this tournament. Some years back, Nigeria do participate. I don't know why we've not been featuring. Has the invitation stopped coming?

All sides please exercise restraint.

Those calling forgiveness tribalist, how many times have they canvassed for a player that is not of their tribe, or at least canvassed for a Yoruba player, or praised a Yoruba player that performs well on national duty? Should we ask you to dig out your posts where you have? Please it's unnecessary. I have asked forgiveness a couple times now to drop the Kayode thing becuase if he keeps on doing that it will distract us from cheering the SE in Russia (which should be our focus now). A number of us here want to keep updating the thread with rich content. We are the reason why there are many on ghost mode. People want to feed off from our discussions and analysis, or at least they want to be informed.

When Russia starts proper we will be arguing about the performance of our players, not about the players that did not make the list in the first place. Let's move with the topic at hand. Can we stay with the camp updates as much as we can? This is the only reason why I've begged forgiveness to drop the kayode talk. That talk was appropriate when the list was about to be named or during the qualifiers. I know for sure that there are many tribalists on this thread. If we really want to know we can check their posts on other threads. But I don't care what you do in your kitchen, as long as you don't bring your kitchen knife to the public place. The Super Eagles is representing Nigeria an no particular section of the country. We have top administrators from different sections of the country in the NFF. I am first a Nigerian, before an Urhobo from Delta State. I was the first to say Etebo rode on that Algerian making him a beast of burden, and that he performed poorly that day. I have criticised Omeruo several times. I've called for Efe Ambrose, and later turned my back on him in my discussions. Just recently I also said Ejaria won't have pulled what Nwakali pulled off against Atleti. Josh "Tega" Onomah is also of my tribe. I've never canvassed for him. I've hardly called for Championship players except Aina. Does this mean I'm not proud of where I come from? nada.. I love my people to death.. but I'm first a Nigerian. It's only this mentality that can move this country forward. I appreciate our diversity and I usually call people out, when they seem not to do so. We are intelligent people here, we can memorize big grammar and terminologies. Same way I know we can spell the name of our players. If you are going to call my name in real life, you better have the interest to learn how to pronounce it just as you would expect me to know your name.

So friends please.. Let's focus on the topic at hand.. We will have side talks here and there.. but tribalistic stuff and political stuffs are very touchy subjects that will keep us divided at least on this thread. Let's unitedly stand behind our beloved Super Eagles, not saying we cannot disagree to agree . However, if you are not truly a fan please take a chill pill.

edi287:
I don't know who the admin is, but it's about time we talked about this nonsense.
I don't always agree with Forgiveness - Infact I doubt there is anyone who agrees a 100 percent with others say on here, but this "tribalist" bullshit has gone on long enough. It makes it look like this thread is mostly an "igbo thread" which is bullshit seeing that I'm igbo myself.
How many times have we had someone get called a tribalist for insisting Nwakali gets invited to the SE? But forgiveness or even Komekn mention Sone Aluko, Obafemi Martins, etc they'll get called tribalist and we'll just sweep it under the carpet like it's not a big deal??
If not, how would that pea brained mofo just come in all of a sudden and vehemently state Forgiveness is a tribalist and I'm Yoruba because I'm defending him?? The clown should've been blocked the moment he said that ish.
Enough is enough. I will insult his ancestors until either or both of us are banned.

This is what we should be predicting now.. Who are the 5 players that will be dropped after the Congo friendly?

tbaba1234:
Rohr: “When the final 23 is picked, we will work on set pieces. We have not had enough time so far.

Nigeria Target Ovie Ejaria Pulls Out Of England U21 Squad Ahead of Toulon Tournament after failing to recover from injury

--ANS

We actually have football news. Let me get on my lappy

OMANBALA1:
Why didnt you use the Nigerian government who were fully backed by the Britain to see that their artificially manufactured country stay intact to protect their interest. You had to use Biafra to ridicule the easterners but we all know how the war started way before France sent few items to assist an almost decimated people. Nigga, watch the next thing you type here and I am being civil for the last time!

Haha dem dey beg na. At least some of us here believe that.

Until our people wake up they will continue to be ruled by these tyrants.

Icon4s:
Na so dem dey take beg enter national team?

Players wey dey beg Governor to pay them their outstanding salaries and bonuses. That's why I was wondering what brought MRI into it.

True Kwame

hardwerk:
Average team ---issagoal
Group stage exit------ issagoal joor

lol ok I don lock that name in

Mujtahida:
Not Ghanaian per se but specifically Kwame Agyemang

I assume say the guy when dey floor dey beg to enter U17. Sorry if I misunderstood the pic

Icon4s:
So wetin come bring MRI for the matter?

...

She finish u.. oya go do change of name for Ghana high court

hardwerk:
undergraduate,if this is how low you are taught in your University ,then I'm sorry ....bibia be yeye

Haha the governors still one play? It’s a societal problem. People love their ass licked

Icon4s:
Who? The Governor or the players?

Ok our Ghanaian!

hardwerk:
Well if you tagged me a ghanian,so be it . After all ,I can brag that your team will never make it past the round of 16 in 50 years time . Make i join una for beer parlour !! Bar man ,serve me cold star Radler with ugba and ekiti Azu di fresh

Hahahaha

Mujtahida:
If you like speak Anambra Igbo, Oyo yoruba or Maguzawa Hausa, you are a Ghanaian. That's your designation, Pasta Kwame.

Oya go sit down and weep in one corner.

godfatherism things.. na so we be. But today these kind of men still have another hurdle — MRI

Icon4s:
When ever I see this picture I weep inside.

It’s been happening na. Which kind question be that. Like Komekn rightly pointed out, we give preference to those who came from our U17 team. But let me modify that. We give preference to the best from that crop.

forgiveness:
How can you get into the national team without having consistent performance in the club?

You are Ghanian! Oya talk

hardwerk:
Chineke m !!! I see you all here are from a delusional dimension!! Ffs ,I'm no ghanian !!!!!!! I'm a Naija guy but man , whatever makes you cum easily . Deranged people parading an average team and some even have hopes of winning the mundial. Clowns y'all are . Iberibe bukwa ihe ojoo...Ndi anwuru juru here

I can’t match your long post because I have several stuffs I’m doing now. One thing, that characteristic tone does not mean, darker and darker and darker. Well let me say this quickly, you keep giving examples why other races want to be lighter for example. The point is there is always an underlying reason just as it is with the Koreans and that may unique to them. Be true to yourself and ask what is the underlying reason why Africans generally prefer fairer? Is it just about going with the trend? What’s in mind of many of our mothers and grandmothers when they say “if u see her pikin, e fine eh, e just be like oyibo”? Let’s be true to ourselves here. I’m not asking about your own preferences here.

It’s normal people may join the bandwagon without caring about the cause in the first place. but that doesn’t take away the fact that every trend promotes a particular consciousness in people, and even when they don’t know it, it’s still there subconsciously.

rabzy:
That characteristic tone makes your skin darker and amongst whites, its a new cool...am a black man, even if its possible to tan my skin, i would not do it because i dont want to be darker than i am and neither have i found it necessary to be fairer than i am.
What am driving at is let us not Africanized it because we are the 'black race', as if it is strictly an African thing.
I gave the example of indians. This article talks about bleaching amongst koreans. https://hellogiggles.com/beauty/skin-bleaching-and-other-ways-korean-women-are-taking-beauty-standards-a-bit-too-far/.
I copied this next quote from wikipedia "In Japan the preference for skin that is white and free of blemishes has been around for centuries, long before European and American media were widely known. There is an old proverb "white skin covers the seven flaws" (色の白いは七難隠す iro no shiroi wa shichinan kakusu) which refers to a white-skinned woman being beautiful even if her features are not attractive."
That proverb indicates that the japanese feelings about dark skin has been there before the "whites" came.
Middle-eastern women and men are also using bleaching creams. I cited also historically that very white/pale skin was valued amongst caucasians.

If you ask a 'yellow lady' in Africa, would you like to be darker? what answer will you likely get, ask a korean woman, an Arab woman, a White woman (tanning as i said is a new cool that translates to wealth, outdoor, vacations, and a new distinct tone). You are going to get a great number of No. Now ask a darker complexioned woman in Africa, India, middle-east, korea, if they want to be fairer, then you get a great number of No.
So universally in my opinion evidence shows that we prefer a fairer skin.
If so, why is that so? Is it genetic, is it evolutionary. Have we subconsciously over time associated darker tones with cavemen/early men, poverty, dirt, slavery, servitude, lower class etc.
My major point is whether this is the case or not, i will not castigate African women that they dont like their race because they lighten their tone, i see bleaching in all races or rather a preference for whiteness even among whites as long as anyone can remember.
Technology has now made it possible that what you dont like, you can get it. Rooney got rid of his bald head, a white lady in Europe did a melanin therapy and she is now blacker than Sadio Mane, Rachel Dolezal is a white lady but cosmetically made herself mullato and has been claiming she is black..am sure when technology makes it possible for us to grow wings, some people will want to be birds.

That inferiority complex thing is a whole different matter. I like it that u went back to history because it helped expose the facts which is now staring at our faces.

Consider the Indian caste system you mentioned, ladies buy bleaching creams because culturally they are inferior if they looked darker.

How about the thought back then that the more dark u are the more u are thought of as a slave? Now that’s the root problem. Because we are still thinking with that slavery mindset.

Tanning is not about looking darker but getting a characteristic tone associated with exposure to the sun. If what I’ve said is untrue why did they not manufacture skin darkening creams? And if there is any out there, how popular is it among whites?

Conclusion if you still believe that the lighter the better you have succeeded in preserving that slavery mindset. And that’s the mindset I’m speaking against.

Many of us Africans have never been slaves. So why do we think like that?

rabzy:
Why would you think ladies do these things strictly because of inferiority complex and self loathe. How about choices, how about variety. Even those who bleach why must it be that they want to be white. What is black, what are the shades of black. What if they bleach so as to look like fairer skinned blacks. There are different shades of blacks, most of us are not even black we are olive brown. Our naturally fair ladies, if you replicate their skin colour on paper no sane person will call it black. So what exactly is the black colour such that those bleaching are strictly trying to be white, how about if they trying to be like the fair/yellow girl next door who is as African as anyone else.
In most cultures fairer skin has often been associated with wealth, class, nobility.
In Europe a noble woman who be very pale and fair because she does not work outdoors, while a servant girl would be tanned and sun burnt. Remember Mirror mirror on the wall who is the fairest in all the land.. Snow White. So historically dark skin has generally been associated with a servant class. In evolution all early men are often depicted with darker skin, even those found in Caucasus, why is that.
Indians buy more bleaching cream than the whole of West Africa, because their caste system is closely linked to skin colour. Mere looking at you, they class you into the lower castes by the darker you are, so even the darked skinned Indians who are of the upper caste bleach their skin so as to reduce such mistaken classification.
So an African lady who wears Brazilian hair today, does Afro tomorrow, goes on low cut for another five years, plaits her hair with rubber or atmakasa, do braids often, do dreadlocks for another 3 years and generally does whatever pleases her or currently trends, would you say she has inferiority complex or she is just confused or she is just exercising her rights to choose what to wear.
There are whites now who would prefer to have tanned skin permanently, because now it is associated with the outdoors, vacations, healthy living. It is now a new cool to be darkened, being very white and pale means you don't go out probably poor, it means you look sickly/pale. White girls that tan and do lip and buttocks enlargement is it white loathing/ do they hate their heritage or is it just that they want something they desire and it has nothing to do with them regretting their race. Those that even do braids or cornrows are vilified for the silly cultural appropriation bullshit. Why can't people just groom themselves the way they want without race being attached.
Some guys will never be caught in native attires because they just don't like it, is that also self hate or inferiority complex.
Humans are fluid, complex, interesting, enigmatic, eccentric. There is no almighty formula that defines our actions and is true for all values under constant testing conditions. I may react in a certain way today and under the same exact conditions react differently because am a human and not a reagent.

Kai that moniker was mocked na. It wasn’t only about Aina..
Trust me Aina PROBABLY has the best WhoScored rating among all our defenders. Sentiments aside, would u start him today if u were Rohr?

forgiveness:
Really!

Are you serious?

Is Iwobi and Ebuehi's fathers not in the camp too?

Won't they influence the coach too?

Why the double standard?

Besides, I got the feelings that Ebuehi is ahead of Aina because he's a Benfica player. Bhuuuhahaha!

Is that of a joke?

If Ebuehi is a Benfica player, what is Aina?

Aina has even played for Chelsea last season before Ebuehi even dreamt of Benfica but I somehow prefer Ebuehi because he has gained experience over two seasons in the Eredivise and that is very important for a defender.

It's not that Ebuehi is better or more talented than Ola but I just considered the experience he gained for two seasons and the fact that I don't want us to lose him at all.

If anyone doubt the talent part, let us compare their ratings through a reputable and independent analysts.

This whoscored snapshot is the ratings of Aina, Ebuehi, Brian and Shehu. Compare. Who is better?

Consistency in national colors nko?. If Nwakalu’s Atlético performance was a fluke, he would eventually be dropped just like Rabiu Ibrahim and many others.

But like I said before, you need to make that consistent performance count when given the opportunity in national colors.

komekn:
The biggest word in football to me is not ability but OPPORTUNITY. Opportunity will show case your talent and ability without opportunity your ability will amount to nothing.

What determines football player quality is CONSISTENCY of top performance. Every player can display a moment of Wow Effect. I can assure you there are non league players who can do this too. However, can you do it consistently that's the component that distinguishes OUTSTANDING QUALITY. That component will cause your outward d progression into better and bigger leagues and top clubs.

For me your club form is the overriding component and consideration. Although there will be exceptions for instance lack of opportunity in a big club like Chelsea, Barca, and or contention with Manager.

If a player is in a lower league I would expect him to be one of the most outstanding and consistent players in that league. Not relying on past youthful glories for the U17 Eaglets.

For instance Dele Alli, Ademola Lookman, Gomez, etc were catapulted from League one to the EPL the rest is history as we say.

My negative unfounded assumption is that there is a preference for former national youth players in giving them opportunity into the SE. Completely disregarding current performance and progression in whatever league or club they may be in.

Dem for make am $1 mill

mazimee:
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We are the SE version of your die hard Chelsea fans.

Unlimited22:
We support our own, but not to the extent of deliberately pulling the wool over our own eyes in the name of patriotism. Hardwerk may be toeing extreme l ines by calling the team poo, but it is an inescapable fact that the team is bang average.

Whatever that means. Let me find u an Egyptian soccer forum.

hardwerk:
iwu onye Apari

Blame Egypt for ur misfortune. We are innocent this time

hardwerk:
so this Accra in your little mind ?

Lol and some of us will come back to post the link and say, “I told u so”

Kog45:
Yes Joebie have seen some comments originated from here twisted by these sports tabloids as their leading headlines.

k

hardwerk:
Keep parading Average team ....I will be here to remind you beer parlour analysts of my comment and laugh at you all when your heads have been washed with Ash to show your wailing and tribulations

Shithole average bullshit team