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no be #10 Iwobi dey play

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Okay na #7

lexyman:
I am giving Iwobi 3 assist ����

On your last paragraph, defending tribe or country with arguments can never rebuild any image. Defending with appropriate action can. Abi who Ghana vs Nigeria argument don epp?

As regards the age thing, there is no rule. It would vary from country to country. You know a performing player regardless of his age. There should be no sentiments. A promising player will not give you his 2022 performance in 2018 (that's if he even ever reaches his potential). Conversely, of what use is a player's older age if he cannot translate it to the required WC performance?

Farzat:
This issue of our players age debate should be checkmated. Whenever d age of our player is mentioned there's always a debate of d player being Older than his age. Criticising the form of a player is part of d game but we should stop embarrassing them to the outside world because many foreigners and journalists visits this thread. Pls lets take the right attitude to protect our image that has been so wonderful.

For me, the right age for WC should be 24 and above, except for a special talent like Mbape. Any average player below 24 should be playing in U23 competitions, Team B, Olympics and stuffs like that. Check out d age bracket of d Brazilian team that beat Germany in their last friendly match, check out the age bracket of the Serbian team that just beat us, their age bracket is between 25-32 and that should be d right age for WC.

There wont be any trophy for parading d youngest team In Russia, experience and Youthfulness should be mixed to give us the right balance. Look at how ordinary our team looks whenever Mikel is not playing, this same Mikel would find it difficult to make the first team of other teams going to d WC.

Also this so much emphasis on league than players performance is nonsense. I just watched Torino vs Inter and I can tell that some Belgian teams can comfortably beat any of those Italian teams. We are one country that lacks what we have in abundance. We have good players in lower ranked leagues across Europe but we will ignore them and start pursuing small small boys that are still learning d rudiments of d game just because they are born abroad.

As for u guys that are bent to display tribal sentiments on this thread, just the same way the Nigerian presidency from one region has not make that region better than other regions. Likewise, having the majority of our team from one region can not make that region better than others. If we can defend Nigeria the way we defend tribe, i can tell that we can rebuild d image of this country by ourselves.

Watching now

BascoVanVeli:
Ezekiel and Etebo in the starting XI for Las Palmas. They are down 1-0 to Levante @ HT

While the argument can be made that Umar has improved, Ajagun has been quite consistent and I would support his inclusion in the 35 man list as well. The question should be who are his competition, and can he give them a good fight? It will definitely raise the standard in camp irrespective of whether he makes the final cut or not.
Umar will bring good competition as well.
Onyekuru will. Dessers might.

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And we need to focus on recent form in our discussion, unless of course a player can borrow his form of 5 years ago.

Kog45:
There is one thing that keep on baffling me here,double standard, just checked Umar Sadiq professional record so far,really surprised that some believe he has something to offer than Ideye and funny enough better than Ighalo?fallacies

Cyril Dessers started his professional career in Belgium with a lowly club where he had good youth football before moving to Lokeren with 25 appearance with no goal for two season and moved to Nec breda in dutch division two with awesome performance and snapped up by Utrecht, but so far couldn't tie a regular shirt though 7 goals in 17 appearance but some believe he is the answer,no issue he can be a good option.

But telling me Ajagun at 25 has passed his prime but Dessers at 25 still has a lot to offer,why double standard in passing comments on our bona fide players who are doing well.

na cuz of Adeleye I take that snapshot..

Kog45:
Kai Dele Adeleye still dey and good to see Fengor Ogude,also Aaron Samuel trying to shake thing up and ever present Bryan Oladapo Idowu.Good one from you Joebie.

Russian Premier League:

Can you spot the Nigerians?

i don put two monikers on ignore mode..

watching his goals and assists last term I still see world class quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-hDNokRMdM

BascoVanVeli:
Ibra came into England a world class player and no matter how you try to put it Salah didn't.

Mikel: Is over 30. What if we take him to the world cup, what happens next?

Truidstar:
Reading posts from yesterday. I respect everyone's opinion and think everyone is entitled to have his/her own opinion. Just want to raise some issues with some names being bandied here.
Austin Ejide: Say we take him to the world cup, what is the long term gain? Is he still going to be around in 2-3 years time?

Dele Aiyenugba: Active in the Israeli first division for years now. We take him to the world cup. What happens after? Is he still as good as he was when himself and Enyeama were at their peak? History has taught us from Rufai in France 98.

Uzoho: Am a staunch supporter. Is he ready based on what we have seen? I have my doubts. But an Uzoho at the world cup will grow in confidence into his role. Do we have the luxury to tolerate his errors has he grows into his role? An Uzoho in 4 years time if he fulfills his potential will be an absolute beast between the sticks.

Aluko: Granted he has been overlooked. He is 29 now. He comes into the AMF role. After the world cup what's next? Can we rely on him in 4 years time? He will be 33 by then, planning to retire.

Kayode: Skillful a good goal poacher on his day. Leaving Austria Wien was a big error. Should have remained in Austria knowing the World cup is around the corner. Man city should have loaned him back to Austria Wien. He is at Shaktar now, think time is too short for him to make an appreciable impact.

Ajagun: Did well in Greece before moving to Belgium. The question is what does he have to offer that we don't already have. If he is indeed 25, Age is on his side, his chance will come if he misses this train.

It is only human for us to show concern and sometimes panic. But let us trust Rohr. He knows what he is doing. We should support our team irrespective of who gets selected.

An aside: Was at a burial yesterday, knows someone that knows someone that has heard and knows someone.....Its like Uduokhai is in the bag.

And ......yeah.....CYRIL DESSERS!!!!!!!

Well, u'd expect some players to use the first season to settle in England for example.. But special players light up the league immediately.. consider Ibra.. now Salah.. But you think he actually improved. And I was arguing he was that good even in Italy the prior season.. I suspect the class was there before his latest move. He met the right circumstances at Liverpool for it to flourish. Good timing!

BascoVanVeli:
Guy u dey worry o.

But this is not the 90s or 2000s no top player is leaving England for Italy as of yet

You are mixing up two different discussions. In this discussion I was talking about multitude of examples to show him that club ranking is not a SINGLE reliable way to compare players.

komekn:
Just to make sure I get your view in context.

Essentially you are saying that there are players who left Seria A and basically ripped the EPL and became outstanding that means in the top 5 of players performance for thier particular position.

Please just name 5 players thats all not a multitude to prove your point.

I will in turn name 10 players.

This is to educate ourselves no animosity or hostility.

So how does one example of Marco prove me TOTALLY wrong.. And that was 1999.

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we still need to jam for Warri oh.. u know say i don catch u..

komekn:
Actually you are totally wrong.

Marco Matarazzi left Everton after having a far from impressive season in 1999 to become one of the best defenders for Italy in modern times.

I first doubted it.. but...

Icon79:
I am beginning to believe the rumor. Komekn is the same person as forgiveness

Wow. Bros, you definitely have too much time in your hands. Unless you're getting paid to post on here sha, so I wouldn't knock you yet.
Anyway, whatever floats your boat sha. Carry on!


O pari

ehen!

soetanoreoluwa:
Think tbaba1234 posted it few pages back.

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He posted about Jordan Torunarigha.

My bad!

...has been rendered inconsequential by what you stated? hahahaha
u never cease to amaze me.

forgiveness:
Does that change the fact that your baseless and false accusation of me wanting all tribes to be represented basedon Federal Character has been rendered inconsequential and unfounded?

I am only telling you you don't have a point if you think I have the orientation of Federal Character. Do you understand?

Besides, I am not inspired by criminal and 419 mogul. Maybe, that is the problem with your orientation and I suppose it has affected your reasoning and thinking faculty greatly. No wonder you are using a known criminal as your source of inspiration. chai!



The fact that you think all tribes can only get into the national team based on Federal Character shows how you disdain and despise other tribes but unfortunately you need Federal Character to survive in this country.

yes oh.. we've had worse ones

Mujtahida:
The arguments have been fair.

where una dey watch?

somehow:
House don full.

3:0 HT

#DEPMGA

It's half time.. Malaga fails to take advantage of a free kick situation (thanks to Success who was fouled)

#DEPMGA

Nice cross from Success, but Malaga fails to capitalize

#DEPMGA

Malaga scores.. its Depo 1-1 Malaga

#DEPMGA

Success finds himself at the middle and attempts to connect header but fails.

#DEPMGA

Success comes down in what looks like a slight challenge. He reaches to his foot afterwards.. hope nothing serious

#DEPMGA

Success offside? bad call

#DEPMGA

Success meets the ball with his left foot but the ball flew way over the bar

#DEPMGA

Success controls the ball with his chest but could net prevent the ball from rolling to the opposing keeper who came forward to grab the ball.

for which station?

somehow:
Lol seems our falcon's GK is related to Akpeyi lol.

Caught ball outside the box..

Not as obvious as that of Akpeyi though.

#DEPMGA

Success tries a step over just outside the box, but his resulting shot is blocked

lol

tbaba1234:
Fortuna Sittard is claiming the court ruled in their favor..

Who is lying? Oliseh or Fortuna Sittard..

#DEPMGA

Success wins a corner kick for malaga

oh really?

soetanoreoluwa:
Read some of your post... You said he made that Statement in January right?

If that's true think he has released another Statement last month I think through his agent that he's sticking with Germany and he will grow through ranks...

Oliseh Defeats Fortuna Sittard In Dutch FA Tribunal, To Be Financially Compensated
April 6, 2018 7:52 pm
Oliseh Defeats Fortuna Sittard In Dutch FA Tribunal, To Be Financially Compensated


By Johnny Edward:

The Royal Dutch Football Association (KNVB) tribunal has found second division club Fortuna Sittard guilty of ‘black money payment’ and has ruled that they must pay their suspended Nigerian coach Sunday Oilseh part of his salary as compensation, reports Completesportsnigeria.com.

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‘Black money payment’ is an illegal payment for a job done in which tax is not paid to the government and it is punishable in the Netherlands.

Reports in Dutch outlets confirmed the KNVB verdict and added that the tribunal also ruled that Oliseh is obliged to return to his post as Fortuna Sittard’s manager till the end of May.

“I’m delighted at the ruling and the most important thing for me in the judgment was that it was stated that they did not find anywhere that I was a bad employee,” Oliseh told CSN shortly after he left the tribunal. “The judgment came like an hour ago; it’s a 20-page judgment. My assistant coaches will also be compensated.


“The Federation gave the President of Fortuna Sittard (Isitan Gun) one week to pay me the compensation or to withdraw the request to terminate my contract. If he does withdraw it means he will pay more that the stipulated compensation fee.”

Oliseh however did not reveal the amount he will be compensated with.

Meanwhile, Completesportsnigeria.com also reliably gathered that Oliseh will sue the President of Fortuna Sittard for damages in the coming weeks.

The former Super Eagles captain and captain also took to Twitter to share the good news.

“Dutch court finds Fortuna Sittard guilty for not being a good employer to Sunday Oliseh and sanctions Fortuna. Most importantly The Knvb Court stated that Oliseh has not acted as a bad employee!” Oliseh wrote on Twitter.

“Consequentially, negating false claims made by Fortuna. God is great!

“The court further sanctions Fortuna Sittard to compensate me (Oliseh) financially immediately.

“I am obliged to stay as a Fortuna employee till the month of May 2018.Thanks 2 all my well wishers for your valued support all through this injustice. Thankful to God 4 his blessings!”

--CSN

Ogbeche on the bench also for Willem II. They currently trail Excelsior 2-1 away at HT

zuchyblink:
Bazee on the bench for Hannover