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Eagles must contain Furman to win by Iwedi Ojinmah 03 June 2017, 09:35 Nigeria kick off their quest for a berth in the 2019 Africa Cup of Nations on Saturday in Uyo after failing to make it to the last two editions, in Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. Sacrilege for the west Africans considering how football crazy the country is and that they have appeared in 17 previous competitions and five World Cups. Facing them will be Bafana Bafana, ranked 11th in Africa and 65th in the world and in the past this would probably have prompted a snicker from the Nigerian faithful. After all South Africa have never beaten them in any competitive game and only once in a friendly when most the Eagles big guns were MIA. Back to back draws have changed all that. Ironically, the man who led the Bafana charge then, Stuart Baxter, is back in the saddle and hoping to reproduce the magic of November 17, 2004 in Johannesburg. Two of his key players in achieving this will be Itumeleng Khune at goalkeeper and Dean Furman in midfield, both of whom he has already identified as the kind of battlers he needs for the big game. While Khune’s experience and skill need no explanation, some may raise eye brows at Furman. Certainly not in Nigeria where the mercurial midfielder has always performed amazingly against them. Sure it may have been Rantie who circumvented Enyeama twice on the way to scoring a brace in November 2014, but it was captain Furman who sealed the Bafana middle and turned it into a sticky mouse-trap for the likes of Emenike, Musa, and Ikechukwu Uche, expelling them from the Equatorial Guinea Afcon. A year later it was Furman again at the Mbombela Stadium who spearheaded the South African defence against Nigeria by playing deeper than normal and again clawing out a 1-1 draw. Furman is a rugby player in a footballer's body and we say that without any insinuation of being dirty. He plays feisty and isn’t pushed off the ball. His tackles are mostly on point and at six feet he isn’t easily beaten with the lob unless it is weighted perfectly. With Mikel Obi out for Nigeria it will be interesting to see how he fares against the talent-overloaded Nigerian midfield that Rohr is still tinkering with. Considering that the Sparrow Hawks dominated the Eagles (despite losing 3-0) in their last friendly in ball possession (52 v 48 per cent ) the table is set for an exciting duel as Nigeria are still not playing coherently in this part of the field. Dial up the knob on drama since the Eagle’s Onazi - most likely replacement for Mikel as midfield General, plays with as much temperament as Furman. Nigeria are about to play three of the biggest games in their modern football history and they come back to back to back. In the first two, against Bafana and then Cameroon for Russia 2018 on 28 August, they must hold serve at home. It's as simple, and yet as difficult, as that. Up front with his best player Victor Moses out due to toe surgery, Rohr must get his strikers on point and to stop being so wasteful. In addition to his midfield dilemma described above, he must also have his back line step up and continue to be stingy. Sadly for the German, all the good work done so far in this department keeps falling apart each time Balogun picks up another injury and can't dress - as is the case again. However, most pundits agree that most importantly Rohr must render Furman useless by making him chase the ball right from the opening whistle to the very end, and keep him out of position. This means Nigeria must stretch the game and find a way to use their speed not just to reach the South African 18, but then pepper Khune with grass-cutting screamers. The game is set for Saturday, June 10 at 6pm CAT and will be live on SuperSport . With the west African Monsoon season now in full bloom, there is a high probability of rain. https://www.supersport.com/football/super-eagles/news/170603/Eagles_must_contain_Furman_to_win |
Let me tackle your points one by one so hopefully you get it finally. If it isn't 'solely' on club performance, then what is it? One thing you need to realize is that just because Ajagun for example starts and plays regularly for Roda does not mean he will be given the same opportunity should another coach be in the helm of affairs in Roda. So what does that tell you? Take for example, Awaziem became a regular feature for Porto main team towards the end of the season before this that just ended. But their new coach didn't see him good enough to be in the main team, hence his demotion to team B throughout last season. A similar thing happened to Sadiq Umar at Roma. My question to you is this, why would you think as a national coach you can go based on the judgement of all club coaches as regards player preferences? Coaches know that coaches have different playing philosophy and they can make different decisions as to who starts or who plays where. So back to what I said. A national team coach will not take club performances as the ONLY yardstick to determine who gets invited first. It's totally okay for a coach to see a thing in a player especially as he has his own playing philosophy. Pep prefers Jesus to Iheanacho. As much as we may be sentimental because Iheanacho is our own, Pep still succeeded in getting a Champions League spot for Man City, and Jesus played a large role in that. So what am I saying here, the goal of every coach is to win and they would choose the players they think that can help them achieve that aim -- again think playing philosophy. Why was Onazi who played very little part in John Obuh's U17 team invited to the National team ahead of Sanni Emmanuel? Different factors. It COULD BE at the time the Super Eagles was already loaded in attack and needed options in the midfield. If we needed strikers, Sani maybe would have been invited to see how he can measure up against the big boys. It is not SOLELY based on club performance that Onazi got the nod first. TAKE NOTE i'm not saying a player will not get the nod first SOLELY because of club performance. I am saying it is not a standard. It does not always obtain, as sometimes other factors come into play. so in the case of Sani vs Onazi it depends on whoever was the coach at the time and what he was looking for. There is no set standard in player selection. Different timing, different coaches with their playing philosophy, different scenarios. Which is why coaches have to assume responsibility if they fail, and get the praise if they succeed. Isn't Rohr winning? If club form doesn't automatically translate to international performance, how do you who will perform at the national team? If you are a coach you will know what you are looking for in a player. I've said it before that there is a science to this game. Although some made mockery of me. But we need to ask ourselves why has USA got to the quarterfinals of the world cup? Even South Korea has go to the semi finals of the world cup. these teams can never come near Nigeria when it comes to talents. How many of their players can you name that will do very well in Europe for example? So you dont just pick a bunch of talents, blend them together and expect magic to happen. First as a coach you need to already know how you want to play, and be able to spot the RIGHT talents that will suit your winning formula. Ability to read your opponents.. so many things are involved. I may already have a winger in the mold of Moses Simon who is a dribbler and may not want another winger similar to that player. I could be looking for something else at that point in time. It's got nothing to do with just preferring a specific player, unless of course the coach is tribalistic or an agent coach lol like some of our coaches in the past. Do you mean the one cleaning and warning the should be called to the national team fast fast while the that just started shining should continue forever until he convince the coach he is old enough to retire ? This kind of question is unbelievable. Let's assume that we invite Orji to the SE today, but suddenly he is demoted to Bologna team B by a new coach, and Osimhen is now scoring goals for Wolfsburg, will you use this criteria to drop Orji and invite Osimhen instantly? Will there be any sense of stability in the team if we make invitations solely on what we see weekly in Europe? Any coach that makes decisions like this will fail out of confusion. Always think playing philosophy and realize that coaches differ. The only reason why we were criticizing Pep is because he was not fielding Iheanacho and at a time Man City wasn't doing well. But as soon as Pep got it right and landed Man City a UCL spot won't we be stupid to criticize him? The goal of any coach is to win matches, and as long as they are succeeding THEY ARE RIGHT. Is Etebor Okocha? Ajagun is up against Etebor not Okocha because if we talk Okocha then Etebor na small pikin oga let's remove every sentiments. Based on our qualifiers so far, Etebo is among the top 3 SE performers. Isn't it stupid to say Ajagun is better than Etebo considering our context of world cup qualification? I was just making a point that versatility is not a good enough yardstick for determing who is a better player. Hence, I mentioned Okocha. I could have a playing philosophy that only needs a couple versatile players, because what may matter to me more is them having mastery of a particular position. Another coach may want to be very dynamic that he thinks he requires as many versatile players as possible. different coaches different vision. Now, that you've seen that Ajagun is more versatile than Etebor, you've started singing another tune.isorrite! No I was just saying even if you are right in that assertion, it doesnt make Ajagun a better player. Coaches deplore players based on how they want to play or/and based on the personnel in the squad. Ajagun MAY have never been considered in the number 10 position if he was in the books of Feirense for example. Again, different coaches, different vision, different squad. It's hard to standardize these thigns. One thing I can tell you for sure is that Etebo can play as left forward, right forward, left midfield, right midfield, main striker, support striker, as a number 10 as well.. Before the Algeria game he was never seen as a defensive midfielder. His performance in that game is now history. Is that not versatility? Or are you just going by transfermarkt.com.. lol Conte thought Moses could play the Right Wing back role, and it worked. These are the kind of decisions we give coaches BIG credits for. Rohr got it right with Etebo. Who would have thought that..? Can you please mention the name of Etebor's club? ![]() That I have already done. And his name is Etebo not Etebor, Eteboh, Etebou etc.. it's just a five later name lol forgiveness: |
Yes reports have it that Ebuehi, Mikel Agu, Onazi, Ogu, Onyekuru, Osimhen, Akpeyi, Kayode and Alamapasu are all in Uyo do4luv14: |
exactly! Like I would always say, "as long as we are winning..." Mujtahida: |
Welcome to Naija Sir Rohr. do4luv14: |
I can't comment much about his u20 performance because I've not watched any of the games. But I know he started the tournament as a sub. I now see he starts even even in the knockout stage and England is progressing. I'm sure he will be demoted if he is 5.5 kind of player. As regards sideways passes, we can't be sure he is not playing to instruction to hold possession. The Ejaria I know in Liverpool is not full of sideways passes. Now we are talking premier league verses U-20 World Cup. Mujtahida: |
Exactly. Let's shift our attention to those are being fielded. Invitation alone is not a big issue. chrisooblog: |
If you read my logic about limelight in our Orji vs Osimhen argument you will get the point. Even in other spheres of life timing is a big factor. Osihmen got to limelight after scoring a record 10 goals at the U17 WC. Subsequent coaches ran the rule over him and were very impressed. Rohr inherited the idea of Osimhen. Watched him in training and was convinced he is a prodigy. The boy has already made a solid impression. It will take a season of failure for his light to fade. If it bothers you so much that he gets invitation, I'm sorry you are going to be troubled for a long spell, ESPECIALLY when the boy starts showing his stuff in Wolfsburg. Awoniyi kept making the matchday squad and was fielded consistently despite his inability to score in the Eredivisie. It took him a few final games to prove that he is not finished yet. Both NEC coaches were not fools. You can's see what they see by being an internet coach. Oasis007: |
How many positions has Shehu played under Rohr? The last time I checked we needed reinforcements in both full back positions. The problem have not been solved yet. So why has Shehu only featured as a right back but not considered as the solution there? Mickael2: |
Ok thanks for the correction. Someone is quickly making Ajagun a golden horse o. safarigirl: |
The problem is when we think a player has done better at the club level and should be considered ahead of another right away. Guys there are several factors in play. Invitation and dropping of a player is not based SOLELY on club performance. Personally as a coach, if Osimhen impresses me in camp, the likelihood of me inviting him again is higher than inviting someone who JUST STARTED shining at club level. Coaches know that club form does not automatically translate internationally, which is why they give it time, until they are convinced they should give a new player a chance. Guys lets not forget that Mikel Agu has been in form all season. He just got his chance. But Orji just started shining.. If some of us here were coaches our player invitation list will change drastically every time because we go by the players performance after every club match. na wa oh. And to the Ajagun matter. It is one thing to say he deserves a call up. It's yet another to say he is better than someone who have been flawless for SE, just because he seems more versatile. If Okocha were playing today will you say Ajagun is better because he is more versatile? Rohr may not need that versatility in the team at the moment. A jack of all trade is not necessarily a master of any. Versatility does not always mean better. Yes Ajagun could be an option in the future. I'm not saying he is not good enough. Just because he is #10 in his club does not mean if he were in SE right now he will be considered ahead of Mikel, Iwobi, or Etebo in that role. We are talking about Roda JC for God sake. Can you name another player in that team? Are they even still in the Eredivisie? goldfish80: |
This Osimhen matter don tire me. Does he usually make matchday squad for SE until the latest friendlies? There is room for a joker in a team. Ronaldo 9 went to USA 94 without kicking a ball. Did he deserve it? But the rest is history. What Rohr sees is what we can't see. When you have ran the rule over the boy personally, you can criticize. It's too early to judge Osmhen's club performance unless you just hate the boy. All the players we are clamoring for cannot make the starting 11. Invitation and integration is a gradual process especially in a winning team like ours. Oasis007: |
Na wa. To determine the golden horses, the question is who is indispensable as regards starting for us when we have a full house. Please don't put etebo in that league of maybes. I won't start Iwobi against Cameroon. Etebo has been unplayable CONSISTENTLY. No commit sin o.. Modified And you no mention a whole Victor Moses. I hope say u no get hidden criteria safarigirl: |
French Open WTA Three tops seeds fell Sunday. Venus Williams fell like a pack of cards to Swiss Timea Bacsinszky after taking the first set 7-5, 2-6, 1-6 14th WTA ranked Kristina Mladenovic of France overcame 4th ranked Garbine Muguruza of Spain by 2 sets to 1 Meanwhile former world number one Caroline Wozniacki continued to amass points in her bid to move up to the top 10 when she overcame her 9th ranked Russian rival Svetlena Kuznetsova, to reach the Quarter Finals. The four Grand Slam title still eludes the Dane despite her holding on to the Number one spot for a long spell in the past. Will she make it this time? First she will have to beat her next opponent in World number 47 Jelena Ostapenko from Latvia, who came back from losing the first set to send WTA Number 22, Samantha Stosur home. ATP Event At the Male event, the chances of winning a 10th French Open title remained bright for world number 4 Rafael Nadal, as he continued his cruise towards the championship match still yet to drop a set. However, if he succeeds to win his quater final bout against world number 20 CArreno-Busta, he will meet a stronger challenge in the semis. And that will be the winner of the QF match between Dominic Thiem and Novak Djokovic. Both players have beaten Nadal on clay. Although Djoko have not gotten the better of Nadal this year, he has beaten Nadal four times on clay in the past, one coming in the QF French Open in 2015. Thiem on the other hand, will have a chance to beat Nadal for the second consecutive time (having beaten him in Italy last month) if he is able to withstand the baseline mastery of world number two Djokovic. |
My people let's not forget it was same way they were saying why Osimhen and not Odey. Coaches are not fools oh. They know what they see in a player that matches their philosophy. The fact is Osimhen is very much in Rohrs plans that he will never hesitate to keep him near the team as long as he is not injured. Orji will get his chance. No be who get invite first go go Russia. |
I will give you a direct answer. Osimhen came to the limelight first. he was noticed, ised by previous coaches and Rohr inherited the idea of Osimhen. Ran the rule over him, and believed in him. Orji is now just coming to limelight, hence still behind in the pecking order. When it gets to his turn we will see if he can outwit Osimen. I heard Orji played as a 9 at Bologna U20 or was it Bologna B, so the comparison is healthy IMO. Mickael2: |
No pun intended. This is an unforgivable sin forgiveness: |
Yes based on club performance ALONE. Mickael2: |
But majority coaches are not playing 3-4-3 right now. AIG07: |
After today's loss, the trio of Edomwonyi, Igiebor and Oboabona are relegated with Rizespor |
Neither do you. I'm only saying its a long time considering the timeframe of Rohr as our coach Icon4s: |
Oga thank you!!! tbaba1234: |
Oh yes, Rohr-wise Icon4s: |
Only if this was done as regards Alaba. One thing I give Pinnik and co credit for. Humility017: |
Well yes for CB. But let's not all forget how they perform in camp before the actual match is what the coaches see. I'm basing my reasoning in the fact that Omeruo has not played for us as a CB in a long time, and Rihr seems to like Awaziem and Ekong partnership Icon4s: |
If your figure is accurate, does it follow that the other 30% fail? AIG07: |
People are just making noise because Osimhen is always invited to the team. Rohr has not even started playing him at competitive games. We need to relax. It's not like our current strikers are not delivering. Mujtahida: |
Well, that's for you as a coach. AIG07: |
Okay lets follow your logic: Since Omeruo fumbled as CB against Zambia he has NEVER returned there. Against Zambia Ndidi played RB, ahead of Shehu Omeruo was RB versus Algeria ahead of Shehu. Shehu replaced him in the 66th minute. Ebuehi started as RB against Corsica ahead of Shehu in the absence of Omeruo Omeruo started as RB against Senegal ahead of Ebuehi and Shehu Shehu started as RB against Togo ahead of Ebuehi in the absence of Omeruo. So this follows that... (although Rohr makes the final say) modified** Let me help you. So far it follows that : 1. Omeruo is preferred among the trio at RB 2. Omeruo has never been used to pair Ekong at CB since the Zambia mishap 3. Shehu has been a regular call up and his closest rival seems to be the new entrant, Ebuehi 4. Awaziem even though a new entrant will most likely get the nod since Rohr has not tempered with that Awaziem-Ekong CB partnership even in test training matches. That's more like continuity in the absence of Balogun. It is LESS risky than an Omeruo-Ekong CB partnership AGAIN after a long time. eterisan: |
I'm not questioning Iwobi's class as you put it. My question is if Iwobi is out of form as we saw him at a point in time recently will you rather start ahead of an in-form Moses Simon on LW. Both players play that position. We have seen an in-form Moses Simon. Many of our forwards are versatile. Even Ahmed Musa has played LW for us many times in the past. Experiencing a deep = out of form AIG07: |
Omeruo. Two pictures here. I have seen him show glimpses of a pure central defender in some occasions and a limited defender in other occasions. Never a ball playing defender. Again it's not set in stone. The question is which role can they play best? vickylincon: |
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