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Follow the thread you will see my reason. Icon4s: |
Not everything is intended for argument. Some things posted are just informative for those who want to learn. Icon4s: |
In fact there are other gems not givien a mention here. I just think it's an indirect diss at Messi. Mujtahida: |
it's a Ronaldo7 fan thread. leave them to their own world. Mujtahida: |
@ Icon4s Already said this earlier No I was just trying to highlight the aspect of chemistry between the CB pair. I will have to study both defenders more closely to know what roles they mostly play, and the duties they mostly perform, when paired against player A or player B. But again there is a high expectation for this pair to play for each other because they stand the closest in front of the goalie. Let's not also forget that there is the coach instruction factor. So of course, these defenders in question will have their strengths and weaknesses in terms of how well they can perform the various duties as instructed. chrisooblog: |
And guess who survived. Djokovic beats Schwartzman 5-7, 6-3, 3-6, 6-1, 6-1 to move to the fourth round |
CSL UPDATE Tianjin Teda 2 : 1 Shanghai Shenhua Ideye with a double Obafemi Martins scores the opener for Shenhua to put them on an early 11th minute lead |
No I don't carry a badge. But I love to study the science of football. vickylincon: |
Schwartzman pushes Djokovic to 5 sets. Or should I rather say Djoko is on the verge of preventing an upset? The world number 2 took the fourth set and currently leads the decider. Definitely not the best way to win a third round match. Top seeds try to finish the early rounds as early as possible to stay fresh for the grand battle -- Ask Nadal Scores now: 5-7, 6-3, 3-6, 6-1, 4-1 |
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i've just posted something on the dynamics of CB partnership. My people. There is more to it than just picking two defenders that are good individually. Football is a science. over to you Icon4s forgiveness: |
Introduction This guide is going to look in your central defensive set-ups, and how to achieve a cohesive backline. I will discuss your common central defensive pairing. Central Pair You have 3 central defensive roles and 3 central defensive duties to choose from. The roles are as follows: 1. Central Defender 2. Limited Defender 3. Ball Playing Defender and the duties are as follows: 1. Defend 2. Stopper 3. Cover The roles are fairly similar in most respects, and defensive distribution is the most significant difference in the roles. The Limited Defender tends to simply clear the ball as far away from goal as he can - ensures you do not get caught in possession at the back, but it does turn over possession to your opponents quicker and can leave you under sustained pressure. A good idea if your team does not possess the skill to keep hold of the ball in the backline. The Central Defender will distribute the ball to nearby teammates, helping you keep possession in the backline, and to calmly distribute the ball to the midfield. There is the risk of getting caught in possession at the backline, however it can alleviate pressure on your backline by keeping the ball, and building attacks and distributing the ball to players in the midfield capable of influencing the game in the middle and final thirds. The Ball Playing Defender will look to influence counter-attacking opportunities by playing through-balls in to players wide of, or in front of himself. He can also help the team maintain possession with his superior passing skills and licence, although he must me fairly creative and a good passer, otherwise you can turn over possession if your player tries overly ambitious passes he is not capable of. PAIR COMBINATIONS: 1. Central Defender & Central Defender 2. Central Defender & Limited Defender 3. Limited Defender & Limited Defender 4. Ball Playing Defender & Central Defender You can pair Limited Defenders as they do not affect the balance or overall passing structure as they simply play direct, same with a pair of Central Defenders who simply play a short passing game. The Ball Playing Defender however plays through balls, and due to the increased creativity should generally only be paired with just a simple Central Defender - this is because the Central Defender can help maintain possession at the back, passing to his more creative partner instead of hoofing the ball clear like a Limited Defender and his "safety-first" approach. Having 2 Ball Playing Defenders can see your defenders playing with too much creativity, and attempting too many risky passes. The duties provide the variation in defensive approach, and these can significantly change the way your defence balances. The Defend duty is the standard approach, aiming to defend merely as guided by team instructions on marking and pressing, holding the defensive line and winning the ball when appropriate. It is a balance of the 2 "extremes" offered by the Stopper and Cover duties. The Stopper duty aims to step up early to engage the opposition and quickly win the ball back. This can expose your team and open up space for your opposition, stepping ahead of your defensive line. The Cover duty will drop off to try and catch any players breaching the defensive line. This can leave your opponents more time and space just in front of your defence unopposed, but it can also prevent your opponents from breaking through without a player to cover and track their runs, reducing their chances of getting a clean shot away in behind. DUTIES COMBINATIONS: 1. Defend & Defend 2. Stopper & Cover 3. Stopper & Defend 4. Defend & Cover You can play most combinations of duties in the backline, however most importantly you CANNOT play a pair of Stoppers or a pair of Covering Defenders. The Stoppers will expose too much space in behind, and the Covers will gift too much room in front of the defence, and fail to challenge for the ball often enough. Both pairings can badly expose your Offside Trap too, by either allowing room behind the full back's or behind the centre backs, played onside by the full backs. The Defend-Defend pairing tend to stay in line better and are significantly better for shape retention, and playing an Offside Trap. The Stopper-Cover pairing tends to exaggerate the best qualities of each individual, with an aggressive defender to attack the ball early, reducing room for the opposition forwards, and the covering defender can make up for the aggressiveness of the Stopper with his excellent positioning and pace. The Stopper can make up for the Covering Defender's deeper positioning and sometimes lack of aggression by closing down the space in front of the defence. This pairing can cause problems maintaining the Offside Trap with the Defenders in line, allowing gaps for your opponents to exploit. |
I asked a simple question. Has Omeruo performed well as Center Back under Rohr? Yes or no Icon4s: |
Novak Djokovic trails Argentine, Diego Schwartzman, with scores currently 5-7, 6-3, 3-6, 0-1 Are we about to witness another upset? |
SUPER EAGLES OPPONENT WATCH: Cape Town - With Stuart Baxter soon to begin his second stint as Bafana Bafana coach, the question of who he will name as his captain has been thrown around. Bidvest Wits coach Gavin Hunt believes Baxter should look no further than the Students' title winning skipper Thulani Hlatshwayo, who led the national team a number of times under the sacked Shakes Mashaba. Hunt and Baxter had an extensive conversation before the Englishman named his first squad, and the Wits coach has revealed that he told the new Bafana boss to consider giving the armband to Hlatshwayo. “Well I think if you’re going to go into a new era‚ new dawn‚ new feel‚ and you want to build your team‚ I mean he (Hlatshwayo) is the perfect guy to build your team around‚” Hunt was quoted by Sowetan Live. “I told Stuart that. If you want to build your team‚ he’s not going to be bashing down doors and screaming and shouting. But he’s going to lead with endeavour‚ and his professionalism on and off the field. “But Stuart’s going to make a decision once he gets into camp and works with the players for a week. “There are a few candidates‚ which is good. You need a few candidates. You want the team to work by itself. You want a lot of captains there. “But‚ ja‚ if Stuart’s looking to go forward‚ (Hlatshwayo is a) good option.” One of the things Mashaba was criticised for during his failed tenure as Bafana coach was his rotation of the captaincy - and goalkeepers - which didn't sit well with Hunt, who added that whoever was appointed captain was the coach's first name on the team sheet. “For me that can’t work‚ hey. That can never work‚” Hunt said. “Obviously if there are injuries you have to. But you need to put your hat with somebody and go with somebody‚ and go feel it. And build your team around them for the next three or four years‚ or until the next campaign‚ at least. “I’m sure Stuart will do that.” http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/BafanaBafana/hunt-to-baxter-tysons-your-man-to-captain-bafana-20170602 |
gbam! safarigirl: |
Has Omeruo ever performed well as a CB under Rohr? And some people are talking about him starting as a center back in a crucial game. This is Rohr 2017 my friends. |
I also implied that. In fact I posted that report a while ago. MODIFIED. Miscommunication between a pair can be costly. That itself is equally important. The center back position is the most critical position. It can make an average keeper look very good (shutouts). Mujtahida: |
I also implied that. In fact I posted that report a while ago. Mujtahida: |
The GK war is a sorry one. There is no clear number one in the absence of Ikeme. TheSuperNerd: |
Upcoming Venus Williams takes on Elise Mertens of Belgium |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0NSLV_KLec Third Round Results/Update: Dominic Thiem outwits Steve Johnson 6-1, 7-6, 6-3 Rafael Nadal drops only one game to see off qualifier Nikoloz Basilashvili of Georgia 6-0, 6-1, 6-0 Garcia Lopez retires to Milos Roanic early due to injury with the Canadian leading 6-1, 1-0 Novak Djokovic trails Argentine, Diego Schwartzman, with scores currently 7-5, 1-1 |
French Journalist Rates Awaziem High Among Players Who Made Their Debut Against Togo Mitchell Paul who watched the Super Eagles of Nigeria against Togo in their 3-0 win have given his view on the ten Nigerian players who made their debut in the friendly game. The French journalists who has been covering African football for close to two decades said the future of the Super Eagles is assured judging by the rate at which young players are been given a chance by coach Gernot Rohr. A total of ten players made their debut in yesterday’s game which is officially recognised by FIFA unlike the game against Corsica, which has no bearing on the caps of a player as Corsica isn’t an affiliate of FIFA. ” Ten promising players made their debut for Nigeria yesterday, and I saw a glimpse of what the future looks like for Nigerian football. Very bright if you ask me. Rohr has gotten a near perfect match of young but widely experienced players in the team”, he told Owngoalnigeria.com. ” I was particularly impressed with the FC Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem who played in central defence alongside William Troost-Ekong. He was very confident on the ball and assured in duels. He is my top pick among the ten players who made their debut. ” Osimhen didn’t do badly after coming on, so too Mikel Agu, but Awaziem had a display to remember in defence for Nigeria. Porto have a real gem on their hands “. Michael James http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/06/02/french-journalist-rates-awaziem-high-among-players-who-made-their-debut-against-togo/ |
If Troost start to make mistakes tomorrow people will bad mouth him. That's the game for you. It's the demand of being a sportsman -- consistency. Ambrose is not finished yet. If he gets his club career going well in a top tier league, he could get a recall in future. Let's call a spade, a spade. Omeruo is not the Omeruo of 2014. We can't live based on the past. The team is always based on current form, as you can't win a current match based on your past performance. Echiejile is still very much starting due to lack of competition #fact. No one said he is finished. MODIFIED Echiejile, Rohr's favorite in the Left Back role. Or did you mean just one of his favorites? Icon4s: |
If Troost start to make mistakes tomorrow people will bad mouth him. That's the game for you. It's the demand of being a sportsman -- consistency. Ambrose is not finished yet. If he gets his club career going well in a top tier league, he could get a recall in future. Let's call a spade, a spade. Omeruo is not the Omeruo of 2014. We can't live based on the past. The team is always based on current form, as you can't win a current match based on your past performance. Echiejile is still very much starting due to lack of competition #fact. No one said he is finished. An experienced player still have to be in good form Icon4s: |
It only took a couple games for Ekong and Balogun to show they were a great pair. Or should it take a tournament for two CBs to show playing understanding? What were those friendlies for? Sure no one here is Rohr. And im making my comparison here with the CB position as context. Let me repeat Omeruo will not start as a CENTER BACK against South Africa. Let's wait and see. Awaziem was super consistent for Porto B this past season. He is young and getting better and better. Omeruo, though young, is not improving at the same rate as Awaziem. No one is dismissing Omeruo completely. But we are talking about who will start as center back versus South Africa. Icon4s: |
I raised two points. 1. Awaziem's chemistry with Ekong recently 2. Omeruo has not played as CB recently owing to a better Balogun-Ekong partnership, also and when Omeruo did play as CB in the recent past he made costly errors. Awaziem has proved to be a good replacement for injured Balogun, not only because he is good, but because he has bonded well with Ekong -- Chemistry Icon4s: |
Owngoal says: "Ahmed Musa looks settled…marriage must be good He scored twice within the first 20 minutes to equal the number of goals he had scored for the Super Eagles over the last two years. Overall, he looked sharp despite not playing often at Leicester and was a constant threat for the Togolese. We guess his new marriage has something to do with his new improved state of mind." so just maybe it will be different from now on hahaha safarigirl: |
He is unplayable on his good day. We need consistency from him. kennysville: |
the kain Musa bad belle eh. So no body notice say Ahmed Musa no get rating. I dey take notice oh TheSuperNerd: |
So my people. We just wasted like 4 pages arguing whether that Togo friendly counts or not FIFA-wise . na wa oh I dey look una dey waste pages lol. Corsica nko?. Don't forget the purpose of friendlies. Whether it will add to the ranking or not, something was achieved. And that's the most important thing. |
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