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Oga thank you!!!

tbaba1234:
Reading comments by south Africans on Akpeyi gives you an idea of how bad/average he is.. He plays in the SA league.

How he is Nigeria's second choice, i do not understand.

Oh yes, Rohr-wise

Icon4s:
A long time. So the Zambia game was a long time ago?

Only if this was done as regards Alaba. One thing I give Pinnik and co credit for.

Humility017:
good move ..I love this
Kudos to the NFF
hope the young man accept the offer
the problem we have been having is that our cadet team coaches seems to be so preoccupied wit marketing players wit their team selections or just too lazy to scout far and near for good players of his kind

Well yes for CB. But let's not all forget how they perform in camp before the actual match is what the coaches see. I'm basing my reasoning in the fact that Omeruo has not played for us as a CB in a long time, and Rihr seems to like Awaziem and Ekong partnership

Icon4s:
Little wonder you'll prefer Awaziem over Omeruo.

If your figure is accurate, does it follow that the other 30% fail?

AIG07:
yes, and that is what you'll get from 70% national team coaches...

People are just making noise because Osimhen is always invited to the team. Rohr has not even started playing him at competitive games. We need to relax. It's not like our current strikers are not delivering.

Mujtahida:
That's just it. I will not hesitate to put him on the back foot if he does not give the desired input that has made us cry out for him. I followed the debate here on the question of Odey, Olatubosun and Muazzam. Today we know better. With Osimhen we shall soon know too and in that knowledge we shall either say woowwwww and say my my we've struck gold or just let out a dismissive hiss and say na wash jare. Matter go end.

Well, that's for you as a coach.

AIG07:
I won't love us to go in cycle. As long as he is been invited, he gets the nod ahead of S. Moses...

Probably because it is the 'Art' of the game.

Okay lets follow your logic:

Since Omeruo fumbled as CB against Zambia he has NEVER returned there.
Against Zambia Ndidi played RB, ahead of Shehu
Omeruo was RB versus Algeria ahead of Shehu. Shehu replaced him in the 66th minute.
Ebuehi started as RB against Corsica ahead of Shehu in the absence of Omeruo
Omeruo started as RB against Senegal ahead of Ebuehi and Shehu
Shehu started as RB against Togo ahead of Ebuehi in the absence of Omeruo.

So this follows that... (although Rohr makes the final say)

modified**
Let me help you.
So far it follows that :
1. Omeruo is preferred among the trio at RB
2. Omeruo has never been used to pair Ekong at CB since the Zambia mishap
3. Shehu has been a regular call up and his closest rival seems to be the new entrant, Ebuehi
4. Awaziem even though a new entrant will most likely get the nod since Rohr has not tempered with that Awaziem-Ekong CB partnership even in test training matches. That's more like continuity in the absence of Balogun. It is LESS risky than an Omeruo-Ekong CB partnership AGAIN after a long time.

eterisan:
zambia away omeruo started at cb..rb..ever since...but since we have ebuehi and shehu..I do not think he is in contention for the rb slot..cb...its him against awaziem...if he loses his spot against awaziem in the absence of balogun then that means he is declining and personally I do not see that..not yet

I'm not questioning Iwobi's class as you put it. My question is if Iwobi is out of form as we saw him at a point in time recently will you rather start ahead of an in-form Moses Simon on LW. Both players play that position. We have seen an in-form Moses Simon. Many of our forwards are versatile. Even Ahmed Musa has played LW for us many times in the past.

Experiencing a deep = out of form

AIG07:
definitely will.
Sir, You should be placing S. Moses and A. Musa side by side in the national team.

If Iwobi was to be an average player who happened to have some dip in form as u stated do you think he would have picked up so easily again? It's just barely 2month ago and from report reaching us from Camp, the dude has gotten his fit back.

As for S. Moses, I am not seeing the FORM you are saying.

Thank God, God's willing we'll all get to watch next weekend fixture against SA(Atleast DStv will show this one).

Omeruo. Two pictures here. I have seen him show glimpses of a pure central defender in some occasions and a limited defender in other occasions. Never a ball playing defender.
Again it's not set in stone. The question is which role can they play best?

vickylincon:
no o. am not being sarcastic bro. good job you are doing, just wanna learn more about it. But, I don't think giving me a picture is bad sir

So you will start an out of form Iwobi ahead of an in-form Moses Simon as Left Winger?

I'm using Iwobi as an example because we have seen him in that state in the recent past.

AIG07:
we have very few of them...

Balogun
Mikel
Ndidi(he is showing some glimpses)
Etebo(highly under-rated)
Iwobi
Victor Moses and
Iheanacho.

These are the few I rate above the rest in the SE's.

I respect your approach in this argument

TheGoodJoe:
From the best of my knowledge, Awaziem lost his place at Porto after Lopetegui lost his job at Porto. Lopetegui is a Spanish tactician who favors a high possessive style of play. This kind of style requires ball playing defenders and that was why Awaziem who is a gifted and cofirmed baller got the role.

Lopetegui is the current coach of the Spanish national team and his departure from Porto led to a transition in style of play which did not require Awaziem's talent.

From reports, Rohr prefers Ball playing defenders and has drills to pick the best. That is why it is favoring Awaziem and Awaziem might most likely get the nod. A player like Awaziem helps Rohr implement his philosophy holistically.

Agu may be the joker. If he clearly outshines Onazi in camp, Rohr won't hesitate to start him.

TheGoodJoe:
I will have the best talent over the most tested untalented player. Why do you think Guardiola was confident throwing a bench warming Pique into the starting line-up of Barcelona?

If Onazi comes to camp and Agu brings more to the team during training, Agu will get my nod.

Football is dynamic. All players must be on their toes to maintain their place in the team.

Honestly I've been thinking Musa's demotion even from his sub status was long overdue. But Rohr have been keeping faith in him with invitations. Only Rohr knows why. Musa has proved he still has something in him. He will play against South Africa. His new wife has nothing to do with it. But Wahala for house fit affect player if the player is the kind when no fit put behind home matter when he dey go work. Make we no judge he family matter. All we hear Na dem say.

safarigirl:
I doubt Musa had this in mind when he replaced his old firewood with a new one, and majority here seemed to agree the new firewood was performing wonders.

Maybe the new firewood will catch against SA like the wonders this new one in Musa's life is doing for him

Not Rohr's Super Eagles

forgiveness:
is it difficult for people to understand what you are saying?

There seems to some magogo in team selection.

If he is playing regularly or he is a bench warmer of bigger clubs that I can understand but calling Osimhen na arrange.

I have begining to understand how selection plays.

They call their preferred player even if na bench warmer and bring him to the National team to increace their stock while they ignore the inform players until their club throway dem because of lack of market value of the said player. The club expects you to be called to the national team to increase your stock and sell you for a big prize but no coach looks ya way hence the need to kick you out for a more valuable player.

I can mention plenty players in the National team that were nothing before their stock were raised as a result of being a National team player.


They use the national team to promote some players and na wetin dem wan do for Osinhem.

Later dem go comdemn the once wey no use national team better dem life.

You are the gold fish in my aquarium

goldfish80:
My realistic starting line-up for South Africa.

. . . . . . . Akpeyi. . . .
Omeruo. . . . . Awaziem. . . . . Ekong. . . Elder
. . . . . Onazi. . . . . . Ndidi. . .
. . . . . . . . . . Etebor. . .
Musa/Simon. . . . Iheanacho. . . . Iwobi

.............
I see Omeruo starting at Rb. Rohr seems not to trust Shehu enough and he wouldn't want to make so many changes in the defence that played the last qualifiers.
I see just one change in Awaziem who is more or less a like for like replacement of Balogun. I read sometime ago in an interview Awaziem granted which he attested that Balogun have been a big influence on his game.

Etebor will likely play behind Iheanacho because he is more of a goal threat in such areas while Iwobi works from the flanks.

Impact subs could be Kayode Olarenwaju and Muzam. While Ogu subs in for to secure the match from the middle if we have a lead going into the last 10-5mins

Thank you. The context is SE. Please can you list the classy ones in our fold?

AIG07:
here, class equates to talent simply innate ability.

For a player to be 'proven' he must have had some share numbers of professional football matches(appearances) under his belt-simple. Such player can be average, good or exceptional but he is alreaded tested and tried... So he is no longer a rookie(unproven).

Thank you Oga. I'm only curting him a slack at RB because at least Rohr started him there again against Senegal despite his past errors.

komekn:
Simply put it would be a disaster Omeruo is a traditional defender and very far off from being a top defender at that.

He is not a baller even playing as RB exposes his limitations.

firstly, what is even class to you?
I'm assuming you mean proven.

Is the argument proven vs unproven at international level?

AIG07:
class without form can make a player look rusty but never average or ordinary.

That is why I'm not always move to the extent of clamouring for a call up when a seasoned player just pop out from no where and start scoring goals/performing.
Personally when it comes to international football I'll always root for class ahead of form. But when it comes to club football I'll stick to your assertions since it is week in week out football and your form matters...

*Modified*
Sir, a player with class will always have something to offer even if he is not in form. Don't forget being in form is playing at ur topmost level which makes an ordinary player look exceptional. Ighalo is an example. But class separates the men from boys anyday anytime.

Even the best sometimes loose form but yet it doesn't take away anything from them-they'll always be back so class is inbuilt.

But the question we need to ask is this:
What is the probability of a classic player loosing and gaining form? Or why do u think most coaches stick to this category of players no matter their present form.

Sir, Class without form is Wetin? You cannot show class when you are not in form. Granted I will always start a player that has class(which has been proven over time) and is in form, ahead of an unproven player though also in form.

AIG07:
I get you Sir. You know form is temporary. But don't forget Class is PERMANENT. That is why a national team shouldn't be build around form Alone unless you want to be changing players like underwears...

Sir, Class without form is Wetin? You cannot show class when you are not in form. Granted I will always start a player that has class(which has been proven over time) and is in form, ahead of an unproven player though in also in form.

AIG07:
I get you Sir. You know form is temporary. But don't forget Class is PERMANENT. That is why a national team shouldn't be build around form Alone unless you want to be changing players like underwears...

Team building is continuous. Else Rohr would have focused only on our full backs for options. Besides the so called back up player is not meant as a replacement only when the starter is injured or absent. The regular starter may either drop in form or his inferior may become the superior. These things are not permanent.

AIG07:
Sir Icon4s and other few must have caught the sarcasm intended!

I'm just trying to help a friend out. I only clamour for the 'best' which I only do once in a bluemoon cos the best are always scarce.

I'm not saying I will do that for these matches coming up. I'm just speaking generally as a coach that's what I will do -- test my players in some positions if they have certain qualities. Of course timing is always the essence. But I have already stated my reasons.

Clementoke:
It didn't kill Mikel nd Omeruo because that was at club level. They have got all the time in the world to experiment. But trying it at national team level would be suicidal when you have about 5 days to prepare for matches
I support Awaziem nd Ekong against SA. Omeruo gets me scared

oga. Omeruo is my tribesmen. I'm far from being a tribalist. And I've never hated on any player, Nigerian or not.

The truth is Balogun and Ekong are relatively new to the team compared to Omeruo. Today, he has been displaced from the Center back role. TRUE OR FALSE.. so what is your claim? That Rohr have been looking for back ups for Omeruo in the Right Back abi center back, since you call him the backbone of our defense line.. Abi is it because Balogun is injured?

Let's say it as it is oh, don't let the devil dance..lol

Icon4s:
Kai! but you said better replacements.
Abi I no understand grammar again?


If you are talking about backups that is exactly what the coaches have been arranging even with the French camp.

This Omeruo you guys are condemning is a serious back bone of that defense.

I am telling you that he is highly favored to start against SA hate him or love him. Awaziem has only recently proven that he is a good back up in the absence of our regular CBs.

Abdullahi Shehu is our best RB currently in the team. Take that to Aso Rock.

Victor Osimhen, Rohr has said is being groomed for the future. I respect that decision even though I don't completely buy it.

Onyekuru Confirms Interest From Arsenal, Club Legend Henry Is His Idol

Newly capped Nigeria national-teamer Henry Onyekuru has confirmed that Arsenal are among the teams interested in his signature in the summer transfer window, and is hopeful of making a decision on his next step after the African Cup of Nations qualifier against South Africa.

The Eupen frontman has professed his love for the Gunners, adding that club legend Thierry Henry is his idol.

''Thierry Henry has always been my idol since I was a kid. I was watching him play, watching Arsenal and going to YouTube to watch most of his games,'' Onyekuru told thenff.com.

''I remember saying if I had to move to the Premier League I want to be like Thierry Henry, so it's likely to come true and I'm looking towards it at the moment.

''It is a good feeling a club like Arsenal are coming, it shows the hard work I did at Eupen. I am waiting and working towards it and we'll see how it goes after the qualifiers.''

Born and brought up in Lagos but from Imo State, Onyekuru joined Aspire Academy in 2011 after he was scouted, before moving to Eupen two years ago.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23276

You will have to pay to be in my classroom if that's what you are asking.

But if you are trying to be sarcastic, pretend you never read the post. Somebody is learning

vickylincon:
hmmm. football has science..I guess it has art as well. looking at how pundits analyse and what you just wrote up there. pls, can you give me an example of such defenders...I love identifying definitions with pictures

Who says?
It won't kill him. It didn't kill Mikel. Playing Omeruo as a defensive midfielder didn't kill him..

I'm just saying as a coach I will experiment him there in training to see if he excels. I may want to start the trio of Onazi, Agu and Ndidi. Also, prepare for situations in future when players get injured in a tournament for example, and you don't have great options.

forgiveness:
Mikel Agu should be left alone in his preferred role.

I meant I stated the reason on this thread. I just mentioned you on my modified reply

Icon4s:
I should follow the thread.

Are you being sarcastic?

Every player untested have to be tested regardless of how good they are at club level. Their ability to imbibe the coach's playing philosophy and ease at which they can blend into the team is paramount. Hence we have friendlies and training camps. However, sometimes you have to start from somewhere like Rohr did. I remember Bryan Efe of spotkik mentioned luck as one of the reasons for Rohr's success. yes every coach need some amount of luck. Bryan Efe said our early opponents failed to exploit our weaknesses at the full back positions. That's one area if we dont fix well before Cameroon, we will be made to pay dearly. I've studied Cameroon, and noticed they like wing play and they come with power. The likes of Ebuehi have no business in that tie.

AIG07:
can I help him Sir?

Abduljelil Ajagun,
Mickael Olaitan,
Babatunde Michael,
Rahmon Azeez,
Sammy Ameobi,
Dominic Solanke(if not for the ongoing u-20WC). Make I stop here... He'll come to point out the rest.

Yes and we have demonstrated we can fight back as well.

AIG07:
One thing I'm loving about this team is that: they've been taking their chances early into the matches they've played so far. It's unlike before when we will be waiting for the magical feet who wil come-in in the second half to bail us out. Most job have always been done and dusted in the 1st half.

Good job once again Coach Rohr. Thanks for this paradigm shift in our national team...

I will like to have a Ball Playing Defender in the mix especially if my opponent is not very potent in attack.

MODIFIED.

Mikel Agu will do very well as a Ball Playing Defender if he is molded to a CB. Just me thinking.

forgiveness:
I will choose 4-4.

I will like to have a Ball Playing Defender in the mix especially if my opponent is not very potent in attack.

forgiveness:
I will choose 4-4.