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Ridiculous

T9ksy:
What a load of baloney!!!
where was this so-called igbo spirit in the first republic when igbos were taking up most (govt.) posts in the south? it was this greed that eventually brought down our nascent democracy.

Parity ko, disparity ni!

Una don come with una juvenille revisionism.

Your motor park analysis is amazing homie. "Igbos taking up posts in the south that brought down our nascent democracy" i dont know where to start with you but i advise that you go read up some primary school history books to begin.


Alj Uche is just trying to start a SE and SW debate here. Naija don pass that level

Hanoobaba:
Him dey smoke ìgbò

For where ? Na lemon grass and monkey hair combo wey seanet dey arrange

seanet02:
Height of Madness!!! from Ibo Kidnapping Kingpins

Guy wetin you smoke?

Amen to that. Nigeria don dey change be dat.

Nobody has ruled Oyo twice. I'll be shocked to see that change, and for AKALA

The guy is good.no doubt

@ORIKINLA - Its not by force to vote for the party of your choice. if you dont like GEJ thats your cup of kunu. Abeg find a better way to canvass for votes for ACN. Tribal gra gra no go work.

@OP - We Ndigbo are wonderful in many things but unfortunately we are crap at politics. Though I cant really describe Tinubu's pocketing of the south west in his agbada as liberation.

@hardbody - nice one bro.i sent you my cv yesterday. You dey try

Now thats awful. 9ice no try.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=627752.msg7953097#msg7953097 date=1300690658]Ultimately, its clear that Ibos are the most tribalistic, most ignorant, and deceitful groups in the whole of Nigeria. . . if not on the face of the earth!

Animals![/quote]How childish.

Anyway back to the thread. Abeg Tinubu was right to say so, Orji Uzor is a clown and Igbo people cant be deceived by jokers like him.he thinks tribalising the matter will take people's attention away from the fact that he and his God son T.A Orji are worst things to happen to Abia. Nonsense

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=623656.msg7917685#msg7917685 date=1300211430]These bloody Ibos: GO FIX your OWN REGION U BEASTS!!!

So, funny, no one likes yall, cant you see? Youre too deceitful. You love to play "destroyer". Youre the single people causing trouble all over the nation of Nigeria with your horrible and two-faced character. You do anything for money its unbelievable. Even Ojukwu asked yall to support the evil Gen.IBB for President: THAT TELLS IT ALL RIGHT THERE! No one asked for your endorsement. Go to your landlocked hamlets and endorse wuteva gorilla u feel like! Monsters![/quote]LOL.What a clown.

[quote author=Akanbi_edu link=topic=623656.msg7913245#msg7913245 date=1300172707]Whether they endorse or not, they must not be treated with kid gloves. The Igbo especially are too tribe-sensitive. Anywhere they go, they bring tribalism and division. No matter what you do to please them, they will never be satisfied.

The hausa must be equally monitored closely, I believe they are more dangerous because they are wiser than the Igbo. They don't strike until they are sure they have advantage unlike the Igbo that will make noise without background work (thereby alerting you of danger).[/quote]Dont give yourself a headache for nothing. Lagosians whether Igbo or Swahili want what everybody else wants. i.e. peace , security, roads etc Some groups like Ohaneze will make their noise but na dem get their mouth. All na politics my guy there is no grand conspiracy so relax. Eko o ni baje O !

fstranger3:
Yorubas can do whatever against their own, IGBOS are not allowed
Just like how a black man can call another nigger, WHITES dare not!

@bolded - LOL thats soooo weak!!!

When i read stuff like that i know what the political elite mean when they call the common man ''donkeys of the cause''. My friend when you rise to a level in the Nigeria of today there is no tribe just causes and interests

Wonderful write up on Madueke. Its amazing how far we have come since the days of the military. But emmmmmm, why are the usual suspects jumping in like grasshoppers to start yoruba vs igbo B.S again. Una no get small shame?

Make ACN take their time O ! Araraume is a thug and scares the crap out of me. For the sake of imo state i pray he doesnt win, same for Ohakim.i wonder if Dr Ezekiel Izuogu is running this time around, he's the governor Imo deserved but never had

step1:
I believe he is not inciting violence but tell you the plain truth. Moreover and so if he is what can you do about it ?

you dont deserve a reply. Lets mind what we post on the internet

@Jason 123 - Inciting violence is a crime under the Criminal Code of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Mind what you say

jason123:
NO! You guys are the tribalist here. The sooner you learn to respect other people as they have respected you, the better. You cannot try to disrespect another group and expect them to folded their arms.

NL yorubas are simple advising you because when the violence starts (and it WILL start in the not too distant future) do not scream that yorubas are tribalist.

You make me laugh my guy. Be very careful of what you post in a public forum.

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=614770.msg7837969#msg7837969 date=1299157919]Just like I told your brothers, stop hyperventilating over something you cant do crap about.

No igbo person has come to take your land but they have come to stay and you guys should come to terms with that already.

You cannot do anything about it. SIMPLE![/quote]They dont even know what they are raving over thats what makes me laugh. They are just reacting to tribalistic instincts that are bone deep

bisiaet:
Once again I appeal as I did in last week thread to all posters who are non Igbo in the house to please for God sake I repeat to please for God sake ignore my people the Igbo "they are totally disconnectef from reality"

They can only smiling and beat their chest as Mr do good in another mans Land whereas in their own land kidnapping, ritualism, tribalism is deeply rooted they cant beat their chest about the solution but they are given condition to Fashola I think if Fashola listen to them then he is coward. This so called  Ohanazie which my own dad belong to did not give condition on how to tackles the menace that befall the east as the most dangerous region in Nigeria all they are crying for is fed Govt is not doing enough as if other part of the country get special attention from fed Govt.

I ask and I will ask again who do we think we are(Igbo)? I will not stop stop attacking any nonsense thread in NL until my people learn how to love, mind their business, stop invading other people land while WE can not allow such in our own land, stop tribalism, stop be a hater, stop be a name callers, stop living in the shadow of the past, stop history telling, show love and respect to other tribes as they show us love, stop ego and pride, I wont stop and I will not apologise for whatever I say, I am sick and sick of all these nonsense Ohanazie give condition what condition in their fathers land or what? This annoys me too much can an Hausa group give Orji a condition or can  Yoruba group give Chime a condition? Rubbish and nonsense!!!!shamelessness>Pls call me any name you like fine but stop invading people land as we can not allow it on our land stop interefering to what does not belong to Igbo, Lagos is not Igbo matter they did not force us or send invitation for us to come to their land lets mind our business for God sake

@bolded - really funny but obviously you heard it somewhere and came here to repeat it. You obviously have never travelled outside lagos before so how can you know. I know that ibadan is not a den of killers and political thugs because i have been there. Simple as ABC

@emmatok - Nobody is disrespecting the Yoruba Soci-Political culture. Try reading the original post clearly and get the real facts unless you are just biased. There are yoruba people in my village that have been there since the 1940s except for during the civil war. Many of them own land, one of them ran for councillor some years back so quit boasting. no one tribe is more accomodating than the other

@omonaija1 - You will live long.

Katsumoto:
I don't need to address the issue about perceived Igbo expansionism because it is a topic on its own.

This argument is redundant because democracy is about numbers; if there are enough Igbos in a certain area, then they can vote one of their own in. I am not for violence but that doesn't stop others who feel 'threatened' to act.

Business concessions I agree with but not political concessions.

There are a number of MPs in the UK who come from ethnic minority backgrounds but they are in the minority. The Igbos in office in Lagos were not elected, they were selected by the governor. In a mature democracy as the British one, how many ethnic minorities were SELECTED for political office by any government, Tory or Labour?

About so called Igbo expansionism I believe you can at least try to defend your statement after we are all here to learn one or two new things abi? I wish i knew what you mean my ''argument'' Ohaneze have in their capacity as an ethnic interest group asked for something in exchange for another from an incumbent. How does that translate to an expansionist policy of the Igbo race?

You said ''Voting of their own in'' - are you saying that an Igbo man should run for governor of lagos? Thats contradiction my friend.

About the violence yorubas are implying here , is the statement by Ohaneze ''threatening'' enough to spark it? Impossible !! What could spark it is when people who know better (I think) distort facts and feed them to miscreants in the street like we have seen through history over and over.

About the concessions, people who have presence in a place have the right to say they want to participate in the political process. Whether or not they are granted by the ACN is another matter but they have asked for it and the world will not end because of that.

It doesnt matter whether or not the UK appoints minorities or not to the cabinet, my point is that when Nigerians with names like Kemi and Nnamdi came out to contest for a seat in parliament nobody threatened to drive them back to africa. and if anyione did i am sure they are in jail

Its very funny that people who have never witnessed a riot in their lives are sipping coca cola behind laptops, mouthing off about starting confrontations.

To the naive it may sound like  a movie to some of you but if there were to be violent clashes between both sides you wouldnt believe the extent of carnage that would follow EVERYONE. There were clashes between area boys and igbo traders in idumota in 1992. Those who can remember or witnessed it know how much blood was spilled and would never like to see it again. Let us be careful of what we wish for, especially when the so called ''problem'' is borne out of short sightedness and tribalism and nothing else

Katsumoto:
I think the problem here was/is actually caused by the liberal and welcoming stance of the Yoruba

A few questions
1.There are sizable Igbo populations in other cities such as Texas and Kano; are the Igbo demanding concessions from political officials in those cities? If not, why not?

2. Surely if the Igbo believe that they have the numbers to effect change, why are they not using it?

3. Giving the perception in the country about Igbo expansionism and concomitant violent reprisals to such perception in the North in the past, isn't it akin to stirring the hornet's nest by seeking political representation in Lagos?

4. Surely, the Igbo have significant economic ties to Lagos but have little cultural ties to the place. Is having economic ties sufficient enough for political representation? I disagree because Lagos is rich in history and there is very little Igbo pedigree in that history. You have to understand that money is not the main priority of the Yoruba. The love of their language, history, and culture is paramount

5. Given the investment of the Igbo in Lagos, shouldn't their primary concern be about projects and developments that enhance and protect their business? They should be demanding better roads, security, protection, etc in places where there businesses are located

6. What happens if the people of Lagos and the Yoruba in general become hostile to the Igbo in Lagos? Is it worth seeking political representation which doesn't promise much when their investments can easily become negatively impacted?

7. Don't the Igbos care about their own land? Isn't counter-productive for some Igbo to be asking for representation in Lagos while others are at the same time requesting secession?

Like Yoruba people will say, 'Ti eyon ba ti yo, a ma wa bekun bekun' (can someone help with the translation)  

@ Katsumoto -

I find your first comment about ''the problem caused by the welcoming stance of yorubas'' very laughable. The problem (if there is any) is in the minds of people with igbophobia.

Who told you that the murders of Igbo people in the north were caused by an expansionist  agenda? Thats ridiculous. We all know that Igbos are the most visible non-muslim, non hausa-fulani ethnic group in the northern region thats why they seem to be the focus of such attacks.  

But let me ask you the youth corpers and other yorubas murdered by almajiris in jos, where they igbo?  The problem is tribalism and nothing more.Thats why you see people coming online to whip up hatred,threats and maybe violence . Why ? because an Igbo interest group is asking for concessions? We hear stories every day about Nigerians serving in the UK parliament, Some are yorubas i am sure, if they can run for PARTLIAMENT in the UK  then kini  big deal about a group asking for concessions in Lagos state in NIGERIA

Eko Ile:
1. This is a public forum and we don't need to take instructions or directions from Fashola before we address issues concerning our people.

2. Interest groups don't issue threats, set conditions or blackmail, they pay lobbyists to lobby elected officials on their behalf or they lobby on their own.

3. If all ibo man is interested is money, why are they imposing political conditions?

4. They are trading in peace like millions of other Yoruba people in Lagos, they are also enjoying the same level and quality of representation just like the next Yoruba man.

5. Their problem as usual is tribalism and petty insecurity and they display the same nonsense everywhere they go,

I have to disagree with you

1. Interest groups DO set conditions, thats what they are - they strive to protect INTERESTS. Whether you agree with them or not is another matter. You are wrong to say that Ohaneze has issued any threats. Asking that for conditions to be satisfied before you vote for a candidate is simply called horse-trading.

2. The average Igbo man does not give a damn about politics but they do care how the government of the day impacts on their means of livelihood. I encourage you to ask any random Igbo person what he thinks about lagos politics and you will understand what i am saying. Ohaneze i repeat is a group of persons with a political agenda.I am igbo and i dont know the name of the president of ohaneze in lagos.

3. The igbos only problem is that they have always been singled out for special suspicion even where there is nothing special to shout about. The reaction to this Ohaneze thing is evidence that there is a deep seated problem with they way we are received

My dear Governor Fashola has not complained that Ohaneze has listed conditions for his endorsement why are my yoruba peeps beating war drums and screaming blue murder on the the internet.

There is nothing out new about an ethnic interest group making demands on an incumbent,THAT IS POLITICS & DEMOCRACY. Not that any of us even listen to Ohaneze Ndigbo anyway if truth be told. They are trying to press for one or two things they can gain from this election and that is about it.

In the USA there are groups like National Association of Arab Americans, League of Latin Americans etc. They make their demands in exhange for votes so its nothing new. You guys shouldnt worry the average Igbo man is from the bottom of his heart not really interested in politics,he is after money and business first, politics and world domination is very far from his mind.