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atoleybaba:
sir that is a one big fallacy created by u...

No, the bolded is Bibical if you want to look them up,
the other is true also, as most know.

johnw74: Jesus was not liked because satan inspired people against Him, he still does.

Jw's are not liked because they are self righteous,
they even believe that they are saved by their own works.

Jesus is not liked because He made himself out to be God, which He is.

jw's are not liked because they make Him out to be "a god", and of course with
there only being one True God, then all others are false gods.

jw makes Jesus Christ out to be a false god.

I'm wondering what part is fallacy

Part of an Article:
The Society explains: "[Belief] involves taking in accurate knowledge of God's purposes and his way of salvation. Then faith has to be exercised in Jesus Christ as the Chief Agent of salvation. This places the Christian in a saved condition, but he must now persevere in doing God's will and continue to adhere to all of God's requirements for the rest of his life.Only then will he be saved to eternal life" (Watchtower, December 15, 1989, p. 30). To prevent any confusion regarding these requirements for salvation, the Society gives four requirements that must be fulfilled by each Jehovah's Witness.

Read all the Article on
What jw believe on being saved by works:
http://www.watchman.org/articles/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovahs-witnesses-working-out-their-salvation/

ingenuity2014:
Please state in clear terms (yes/no)
1) Do you believe that there is a lake that burneth with fire and brimstone meant for unbelievers after the end of time?
2) Do you believe that the holyspirit is not a force?
3) Then, the fact that you underrate my Jesus, and say that He is angel Michael. That is a terrible blasphemy. Forgetting that in Genesis, the Godhead said, "Let us make man in our own image". You say that the conversation was between God and the heavenly beings, but, remember that in John 1:1-3, it was written, "In the beginning was the Word(Jesus) and the Word was with God and the WORD WAS GOD, Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." So, are you implying that Angel Michael created the world with God?

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. I dont need to check www.jw.org cos I cant go checking/reading up all the doctrines in the world, that would only lead to vexation of my soul and deviation from the real truth. All I need to do is to study my bible, arm myself with the truth and if a particular doctrine/religion has a fundamental deviation from the truth, I move away from it.

I'm not jw, but your three questions are easy to answer,

To question one, YES, it is Bibical
Rev_20:15 And if anyone was not found having been written in the Book of Life, he was cast into the Lake of Fire.

To question two, The Holy Spirit is not just a force, He is powerful, yes, for He is God.

To question three, an angel didn't create the world, God did, and there are plenty of verses on that.
Here is verses on God and the Word, before even the creation of the World:

Pro 8:22 Jehovah possessed me from the beginning of His way, before His works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was anointed from everlasting, from the beginning, before the earth ever was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no springs heavy with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I was brought forth.
Pro 8:26 before He had made the earth, or the fields or the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When He prepared the heavens, I was there; when He set a circle upon the face of the deep;
Pro 8:28 when He set the clouds above; when He made the strong fountains of the deep;
Pro 8:29 when He gave to the sea its limit that the waters should not pass His command; when He appointed the foundations of the earth;
Pro 8:30 even I was a workman at His side; and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him;

Jehovah posessed the Word and bought Him forth to create the World
He created all that exists, which includes angels.
Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.


Pro 8:22 Jehovah possessed me from the beginning
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, ...

The Word existed in Eternity with God, before there was anything but God.

annyplenty:
God will do His work by Himself.

annyplenty:
Harvest is plenty! Labourers are few. Lord of the Harvest, Please, send labourers to your harvest!

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btoks:
Do you think the bible suddenly appeared in 2015? Do you realise there has been 2 millenia of Christianity before this time.when was your teaching accepted and thought by the church?
Why do we have to believe in your interpretations?

If you say forgiving sins only applied to the apostles,this same must apply to baptism and preaching good news.the church must have ended with the Apostles.?!!! Why do we even bother with christianity?Please lets think critically here.

You don't have to accept guidance. This is just sowing a seed. just mind it growing over the years.

@bold, Try quoting me correctly

I say again, Jesus was talking to the Apostles, He wasn't talking to false teachers-priests,
who after wrongly thinking they have forgiven sins, might then say, "now go and pray six hail marys".

When Jesus forgave sins He didn't say, now go and pray to my Mother Mary,
He said: now go and sin no more.

bingbagbo:
John 1:18

English Standard Version
No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.


JESUS CHRIST IS GOD

Why do you hate so much hearing this simple truth?

No one has ever seen God, which is talking off the Father,
people have seen Jesus.

You keep using mistaken translations,
try using translations that line up with the Hebrew and Greek texts,
if you want the truth, or keep going the way you are if you want to hold to your false beliefs.
KJV is good for keeping with the Hebrew and Greek texts.

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

bingbagbo:
John 10:33

They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God."



JESUS CHRIST IS THE GOD I SERVE, DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU THOUGH.....WHAT IS THE NAME OF YOUR GOD?

Jesus said:
Mat 6:9 Therefore pray in this way: Our Father, who is in Heaven,

Jesus is not the Father, but is the Son.

missKiffy:
So cos u not familiar with my post in religion forum, am not a christian, others are busy answering the question, you here judging, ride on

did I say that?
I thought someone else was implying that.

JMAN05:
Jwfacts.com does not have the truth about JWs.

jwfacts.com quote from jw articles,
but I agree with you and jwfacts.com, that those jw articles that jwfacts.com publish, are not the truth.
www.jwfacts.com

bingbagbo:
My Lord Jesus Christ answered the Pharisees with a question

I'm not familiar with misskiffy posts in religion forum, except i saw where she said she is a christian

Perhaps it's not possible to evangelize here. Apart from the known atheists who come in and disrail,
you have rc and jw doing the same thing, they come and argue their doctrines over the beliefs of those Christians who don't belong to orginisations, but who just believe the Bible.
There are few True Christians, but there are many that are christians by name or organization only.

Everywhere people are supporting homosexuals, in goverments, and in churches.
They are no longer called homosexuals but gay's,
and they are allowed to marry in many countries,
but it is not to be accepted as normal, because it isn't normal, God made man to be with and to marry woman.
I believe homosexuals can repent and be saved, but if not, God numbers them with others
who are not to inherit the kingdom of God.

1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals,

MizJanet:
NIGGA
YOU SAY SOME S_T_U_P_I_D
S_H_I_T

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quote: Syn to MizPoo: "Dear one," ............. Haha

btoks:
So I take it you're 2015's CC attacker . others came before but have largely given up.

Of course they would have, I also will wipe my feet off you soon.

I'll recommend that you please study the CC teachings Well before you post.
- I've explained in my previous post about praying to saints.

You call that an explanation?

- Christianity from inception has believed the consecrated bread to be the body of Jesus Christ. Please see 1cor 10:16 (The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?)

And you think that is saying it's literally Jesus flesh and blood?
We meet and eat with fellow Christians in memory of Christ.
We do not go into a building to receive a wafer of bread on our tongue and think that is supping with fellow believers in memory of Christ.

-what is your understanding of the pope being infallible?as CC teaches that pope is only infallible when teaching faith and morals to the whole church in defined circumstances. (Pls see matt 16:19[i] I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." [/i]

I know that decades ago rc were taught that the pope was infallable at all times, and that priests were infallable when saying the mass.
And that verse is not talking off the Harlot of Babylon, but to Jesus true followers.

-on priests forgiving sins (please see John 20:22)

God bless

Jesus said that to the Apostles, "whatever you forgive on Earth will be forgiven in Heaven" He did not say that to the priests of the false church who might then say, now go and pray six hail mary's.

btoks:
I notice how you conveniently avoided addressing the verses but state that I've based the teaching one or two verses. Firstly,How many verses will do?Secondly, the teaching is based on more than those verses.

That's being hypocritical, where are the answers to all of the rcc heresies that I have posted?

It's up to you if you don't pray to saints,it's not compulsory within the CC anyway, it is however encouraged that we pray for one another - see 1tim2:1

Praying to God for one another, is not praying to one another.

Saints are more alive than you or I are,how else could they offer our prayers in Rev 5:8?

In Rev 5:8 the Saints have been raptured to Heaven before the pouring out of God's wrath on the Earth,
they offer their prayers to God.

Vain repetition is not about repeating same words but not praying from the heart. While it's possible to pray the rosary vainly,(or any protestant prayer for that matter),it's meant to be prayed meditating on the mysteries of Christ .we see several examples of repetitions in the scriptures - e.g.plasm 136, Rev 4:8.

Saying the same prayer over and over again is not only repetitious but vain, and to pray to saint's-men, is also of the heathens.

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

I've stated before that you require guidance to understand the scriptures, so that you see things in proper historical context not some novel interpretations.

I am not interested in your unbibical kind of guidance.

italo:
"A wise man once told me don't argue with fools, cos people from a distance can't tell who is who"--Jay Z.

That advice is for Syncan.

italo:
The devil can do those things you mentioned.

And the devil can have you pray to a dead saint
the devil can make you believe the communion wafer is the actual body of Christ
the devil can have you pray before statues
the devil can have you believe the pope (a man) is infallable
the devil can have you believe that priests can forgive your sins
the devil can have you believe repeatedly praying to a dead saint is not a sign of a heathen

plus so much more.


A person who believes and does those things, could be considered a fool.

missKiffy: Am a christian, so am not trying to be blasphemous here but it's kind of confusing when people say Christ is God, then why did John 3:16 said "for God so love the word that He gave His only son". His only son here being Jesus

bingbagbo:
have u fulfilled John 3:5?

if not then you are not a Christian

Someone asks a question, and bing implies she may not be a Christian ??

On Mary being the Mother of God and more.

Is Mary the Mother of God?
by Moisés Pinedo

Catholics have recited the “Hail Mary” prayer for many years. It includes the words, “Holy Mary, Mother of God.” These words represent one of the most treasured doctrines of Catholicism. In A.D. 431, the Council of Ephesus proclaimed Mary “to be the mother of God because God the Word took flesh and became man and from his very conception united to himself the temple he took from her” (“Formula of Union...” n.d.). One of the arguments used extensively to support this doctrine is presented as follows: (1) Mary was the mother of Jesus; (2) Jesus is God; (3) therefore, Mary is the “Mother of God.” This syllogism may seem logical, but the conclusion is superficial. Consider the following.

First, although the Bible documents that Mary became the mother of Jesus and clearly teaches that Jesus is God, it never states, or even implies, that Mary was (or is) the “Mother of God.” For a theological syllogism to explain correctly the relationship between Mary and God, it must be based on biblical truth. We can propose correctly that (1) Jesus is God (Hebrews 1:8 (2) God became flesh (John 1:1,14); (3) therefore, Mary is the mother of Jesus according to the flesh (Romans 9:5), i.e., Jesus’ physical body.

Second, we should keep in mind that Deity is not constituted by a literal family—with fathers, mothers, sons, and daughters—like some of the gods of Greek and Roman mythology. Although we refer to the first and second Persons of the Godhead as the Father and the Son, these titles do not denote a literal familial bond, but emphasize Their united and divine nature. To refer to Mary as the “Mother of God” is to misunderstand the nature of Deity and misapply Scripture.

Third, consider the consequences which develop from such an inappropriate use of the syllogism aforementioned. Since the Bible records that Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18), Catholics conclude that it is correct to refer to Mary as “the daughter of God the Father, Mother of Jesus Christ, and true spouse of the Holy Spirit” (Peffley, n.d., p. 3). If the Holy Spirit is Mary’s “husband” (and, therefore, Jesus’ “father”), and Jesus is God, would not the Holy Spirit be the “father” of God? This is not only a completely erroneous application of Scripture, but also blasphemous theology. Now let us consider some additional evidence from the Bible that further explains Mary’s relationship to God.

God does not have a physical mother.

Speaking to the Son, the Father declared, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever” (Hebrews 1:8, emp. added). In God’s revelation to the apostle John, the resurrected Christ said, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,...who is and who was and who is to come” (Revelation 1:8, emp. added). The Son did not have a beginning; He is the Beginning. “He was in the beginning with God” (John 1:1-2). Paul pointed out, “He is before all things, and in Him all things consist” (Colossians 1:17, emp. added).

The Son’s existence did not begin with His conception in Mary’s womb. He was alive in eternity (cf. Micah 5:2), and, at the right time in history, He became flesh (John 1:1,14). Paul put it this way: “But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law” (Galatians 4:4). On the other hand, Mary came into a time-bound world long after the creation of the Universe. She, like all human beings, was not eternal. She was not divine, not “from everlasting to everlasting” (Micah 5:2). She could not have provided an eternal nature to her Son. He is Deity. He is the “eternally blessed God” (Romans 9:5).

Consider how Jesus explained His divine nature. When addressing the Pharisees, He asked them: “‘What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?’ They said to Him, ‘The son of David.’ He said to them, ‘How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord’.... If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?’” (Matthew 22:42-45, emp. added). The Pharisees failed to answer the question correctly because they were thinking about the physical nature of the Messiah. While Christ was a physical descendant of David (cf. Luke 1:32; Matthew 1:1), according to His divine nature He did not have a physical father, since He Himself is before all (John 8:58). In the same way that David could not be the father of the divine Messiah since he called Him “Lord,” Mary cannot be the “Mother of God” since she calls Him “Lord” in Luke 1:38,46-47. The truth is, as Paul explains, “according to the flesh, Christ came” through the patriarchs, David, and, yes, Mary, but according to His deity, He is the “eternally blessed God” who is over all (Romans 9:5, emp. added).

Mary never was considered the “Mother of God.

There is not a single verse in the Bible that describes Mary as the “Mother of God.” In fact, none of the inspired writers of either the Old or New Testament gave even a hint that she should be regarded as such. This idea is based purely on human tradition. Mary considered herself as a “maidservant of the Lord” (Luke 1:38, emp. added) and considered God as her “Savior” (Luke 1:47). Sadly, many have distorted this concept.

When speaking about the blessing of being chosen by God to be the mother of the Messiah, Mary declared: “For He [God] has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant” (Luke 1:48, emp. added). Certainly the words “lowly state” would be inappropriate to refer to Mary if she is the “Mother of God.” W.E. Vine has noted that the Greek word for “lowly state” is tapeinosis, which denotes “abasement, humiliation, or low estate” (1966, 3:23). Mary was conscious of the humble state of her human condition.

Additionally, the New Testament makes it very clear Who became flesh. It was God Who took on the form of a man (John 1:14) and was born of a woman (Galatians 4:4). The woman did not become “divine” in order to conceive the Son of God. The Bible mentions Mary as the mother of Jesus, but never as the “Mother of God” (cf. Mark 3:31; Luke 8:19; Acts 1:14; et al.).

Mary never was worshipped as the “Mother of God.

Catholics worship Mary, claiming that she has “divine maternity” (“Dogmatic Constitution...,” 1964, 8.3). But if Mary is to be worshipped as the “Mother of God,” we should expect to find a biblical command to do so, or a biblical example of approved action. However, such commands and examples are nowhere to be found. From the first moment Mary appears in the biblical record, there is no indication of her being the object of worship of any kind. When God’s angel announced to Mary that she would give birth to the Messiah, the heavenly messenger did not worship her (Luke 1:26-38). The shepherds, who came to the stable, praised God—not Mary—for what they had witnessed (Luke 2:16-20). Later, the wise men came to a house and “saw the young Child with Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him” (Matthew 2:11, emp. added)—not Mary. Simeon and Anna, who had waited their entire lives for the Messiah, recognized Jesus as the One sent by God. They did not offer any special acknowledgement or praise to Mary (Luke 2:21-38). Additionally, Jesus’ disciples never gave Mary any preeminence during their gatherings, much less worshipped her as the “Mother of God” (cf. Acts 1:14-26).

When Mary asked for Jesus’ help at the wedding in Cana, He said, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me?” (John 2:4, emp. added). He used the word “woman” not in a derogatory way but as an expression of respect and affection (cf. Matthew 15:28; John 19:26; 20:15; Lyons, 2004). He may have used “woman” instead of “mother” to emphasize that “in his calling Jesus knows no mother or earthly relative, [but] he is their Lord and Savior as well as of all men” (Lenski, 1961, p. 189).

Jesus made it clear that Mary had no preeminence among His followers or before God. On one occasion, “He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, ‘Here are My mother and My brothers!’” (Matthew 12:49, emp. added). Jesus wanted His disciples to understand that anyone who believed in Him and obeyed the will of the Father would be blessed as part of His family. But He did not say that any member of that family was worthy of worship or adoration.

Another incident in Jesus’ ministry is worth mentioning. While Jesus was teaching the multitudes, “a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, ‘Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!’” (Luke 11:27). Jesus responded, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it” (11:28, emp. added). Again, Jesus made it clear that there was nothing about Mary that elevated her above anyone else who heard the Word of God and obeyed it. Jesus Himself taught us not to consider His mother as the “Mother of God,” a person to be worshipped.

The title “Mother of God” is unbiblical, as are other titles given to Mary, such as “Mother of the Church,” “Mother of Mercy, Life, Gentleness, and Hope,” “Door to Heaven,” etc. Worship directed toward her (or any other mere human being), rather than to Almighty God, not only denigrates appreciation and respect for Deity, but also leads further into apostasy.

Because Jesus is God, and Mary gave birth to Jesus, rc blindly say that Mary gave birth to God,
even though Jesus was God from Everlasting.
God lowered Himself and became man, the man that Mary gave birth too.
The Word of God tells us that God was not born, but is from everlasting, rc say God was born.
The bible says Mary's child is the Son of God, rc say Mary gave birth to God, and all because their prayer "Hail Mary" to a dead saint say's so.

Syncan:
all because I am enlightening you on the word of God.

That puffed up prideful spirit is always with you.


Where are the quotes of all these lies you keep accusing me off?
When I became a Christian many moons ago, I put away lying as Christians do,
but with your continued accusing of lying, it shows that lies are still a part of you, and so you think that others are the same.
You think God doesn't know about your false accusations, that He doesn't see it, or your insults, or your wrong use of His scriptures against a believer.

You will find out that He does see.

MizJanet:
Jesus born by his mother Mary, Is God ? yes OR no .

I'm not going to discuss matters of the Bible with you an atheist, who will accuse of lies etc like rc does,
ask another atheist.

Papist:
And what do you call your biological father?

Dad

Dont you think your post exposes your level of education?

Typical rc insult

If the *call no man father* verse is a blanket ban on the word father then I guess you called your father uncle perhaps. Now explain this from the Bible:

You don't believe what Jesus said is true, and you don't obey Him.

Mat_23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Syncan:
Beloved, am I winding you up? Sorry, but I have to tell the truth at all times.

There is that puffed up pride again, coupled with self righteousness and lies

The accusers lies, the foul mouth of Syn:

Syn: Why do you like to tell lies

once again he avoids it to chase shadows

behind that arrogance is a massive ignorance of scripture

Mr Pharisee, is your question not the same as your fore fathers asked earlier

And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite<red

to expose the stupidity in your post

a lunatic indeed goes along comfortably with his thoughts

you shout a silly sentence

You kept avoiding the scriptures I lay bare in front of you

As long as you keep spreading lies and calling scripture "evil accusing reply"

And he calls himself a christian. Smh.

Did i not say you are ignorant of scriptures

Now you're crying, chasing after shadows as usual.

Scripture says the Mighty God was born of the Virgin

Johnw74 says God was never born
(Syn told the truth there, in his own sick way that was supposed to mock me)

...and johnw74 says he reads scriptures.
(I do read scripture but I never said it, Syn misquotes-lies)

Why do you like to tell lies

only the truth shall set you free

Hahahaha, Can't you see how trying to deny what God has given her is making you stumble and somersault? Just hear yourself

hahahaha, can someone be the mother of a flesh? A flesh without life (dead meat)

I don't know what you're running round and round about

Hahahaha I did not misquote you
(another lie)

once again he avoids it to chase shadows

Rev_12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Syn is just like that accuser

God's Word speaking of rcc:

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

The rcc used to forbid priests to marry, it may still be so
the rcc used to command to abstain from meats on fridays

Jesus said He is the Son of God:
Joh_10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Mar_1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Luk_1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

God (the Word) lowered Himself and became man
Mary gave birth to that man, not to God who already exists

There are many verses in the Bible showing that Mary gave birth to the Son of God
There is not one single verse saying that Mary gave birth to God
because most everyone know that God was never born, He has no beginning.

btoks:
On sighting Mary,Elizabeth said in Luke 1:43 -Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?’
And look at 1 Corinthians 8:5 - Yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist

These refute your claim that the Hail Mary prayer is wrong on Mary being mother of God..

Once again please read the council of Ephesus declarations,this issue has been long addressed.

You take one or two scriptures and think that proves Mary gave birth to God
even when God Himself said This is my beloved Son
and when the Angel said to Mary He shall be called the Son of God.

I anyway, don't pray to dead saints, but directly to God in me
there is no need for anyone to intercede on my behalf
the prayers of those who pray to Mary are not heard.

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Syncan:
What you fail to understand is that your mother is your mother naturally because she bore you in her womb and gave birth to you into this earth. She did not bring you into existence, for before you were formed in your mother's womb scripture says that God already knew who you are.

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you...," Jer.1:5

So it doesn't matter if Jesus who is God existed before coming into the womb of Mary. As far as she bore Him who is God in her womb, and gave birth to Him who is God (and was worshipped) at bethlehem, her son is God and she is the Mother. She is the Mother of God.

@bold, Truly God has no mother,

you disbelieve the scripture saying Jesus is the Son of God,
you disbelieve the scripture where God said Jesus is His Son
you disbelieve the scripture where the Angel told Mary she was to give birth to the Son of God.

You disbelieve scripture, you oppose the Truth, you falsely accuse etc. etc. etc.
that shows the spirit in you.

Syncan:
Beloved, am I winding you up? Sorry, but I have to tell the truth at all times. Yes my faith is my Pride. Pride is not always negative you know, I am glad to be teaching you a lot here. Here are some scripture quotes for you.

"We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart...2 Cor. 5:12

"I have spoken to you with great frankness; I take great pride in you. I am greatly encouraged; in all our troubles my joy knows no bounds"...2 Cor. 7:4


"Therefore show these men the proof of your love and the reason for our pride in you, so that the churches can see it."...2Cor 8:24

@bold
It's very obvious that pride of yours is the puffed up type, and so self righteous ... "I am glad to be teaching you a lot here"

Syncan:
Stop telling lies here. Her post is there for all to see, and so is yours.

(Prov 19:9)- A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.

Ha ha, the ugly rc
quote whatever posts you are talking about so we can know too, accuser

BADNEAT:
Seun, Lalasticlala, do the needful

if those moderators are rc then they may ban me
it appears rc can't stand the Truth

Syncan:
Hahahaha, Can't you see how trying to deny what God has given her is making you stumble and somersault? Just hear yourself, she is the mother of the "son of God" then you split the son of God into two, "flesh of Jesus" and "spirit which is God the word", hahahaha, can someone be the mother of a flesh? A flesh without life (dead meat) abi or what? Is your mother just the mother of your flesh?

Question: In her womb, was Jesus God?




Jesus the Son of Mary is God.

What I said is perfectly true, but you are so confused.

johnw74: My answer doesn't clarify that at all.
Mary is not the mother of God because God the Word-Jesus Christ is from everlasting, before Mary or anyone or anything was created.
Mary is the Mother of the Son of God, that is Mary is the Mother of the flesh Jesus, and not the Mother of His Spirit which is God the Word.

Syn mocks because Syn doesn't understand.

Syncan:
Am leaving this thread for I never had nor do I now have interest in it, please stop mentioning my handle here.

jw believe diffrently to rc
but rc is scared to stay here, maybe because there are to many of them