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Syncan:
This is scripture.
Hence:

"Hail (Mary), full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb (Jesus) " is scriptural.

It's funny how RC's pray to the dead Saints who are awaiting the resurrection.
Christians with the Holy Spirit pray directly to God.

Syncan:
Hahahaha.

1. I did not misquote you, I quoted you correctly,

You are as blind as they come, for the third and last time,
here is one of your misquotes:

Syncan: So now God made the spirit but your mother (and not God) made the flesh?

johnw74: Jesus flesh was from God and Mary, His parents, the same as any child's flesh is from their parents....

You don't understand what is said, you misquote, and you go around and around in circles.

Syncan:
1."For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace". Is.9:6.


2.I don't know what you're running round and round about. That your mother is the mother of your flesh and did not give birth to you; body, soul and spirit? This is ridiculous to say the least. So now God made the spirit but your mother (and not God) made the flesh?

You don't understand what is said and you even misquote what is said,
how can you learn anything that way?

johnw74: Jesus flesh was from God and Mary, His parents, the same as any child's flesh is from their parents....

3.As long as the bold is true, then Jesus the son of Mary is God. That makes Mary the one who bore God in her womb. That makes Mary the one who gave birth to God " And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. Matt.2:11. That Makes Mary the mother of God in English language.

That makes Mary the Mother of the Son of God, just like the scriptures say
God was never born.


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The Word became flesh ...

God Fathered Jesus, that makes Jesus the Son of God
Mary gave birth to the son of God just as scriptures say.

You cannot understand how Jesus can be God, and the Son of God,
hint: it's something to do with the diffrence between Spirit and flesh,
Word of God = Spirit
Son of God = flesh.
Mary didn't give birth to the Word of God did she.

theAtheist101:
Which other poster? You quoted the op with the sole purpose of derailing the thread, rather than contribute to it.

Did you intend to ask a question?

Open your eyes and look.

MizJanet:
I asked you a simple question, you are beating around the bush and to make it worse you start contradicting youself.

Religion fooling its followers since time immemorial

which church is your own ? Confuse bunch

Not beating around the bush, I told you I don't cast pearls before swine
as far as contradicting myself goes, show me where? I can make mistakes,
but of course it's bound to be just continuation of your big mouthing-bad mouthing.

Syncan:
Hahahaha, Can't you see how trying to deny what God has given her is making you stumble and somersault? Just hear yourself, she is the mother of the "son of God"

Yes she is the Mother of the Son of God.
Luk_1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

then you split the son of God into two, "flesh of Jesus" and "spirit which is God the word",
hahahaha, can someone be the mother of a flesh? A flesh without life (dead meat) abi or what? Is your mother just the mother of your flesh?

Jesus flesh was from God and Mary, His parents, the same as any childs flesh is from their parents. God gives the spirit, in Jesus case it was the Spirit of God.

Question: In her womb, was Jesus God?




Jesus the Son of Mary is God.

He is God, and He is the Son of God, and you didn't understand anything I said.

theAtheist101:
Why would a believer waste his time quoting an unbeliever?

To show agreement with the other poster,
haven't you been reading.

Redlyn:
Because she is interested in the subject? Why is that your concern.

She has not been interested in Christianity except to knock it,
look back at her posts, or don't.

Concerning 1Pe 4:6

1Pe 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

The preceeding verse:
1Pe 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

2Ti_4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;


1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

Joh 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

BIBLESPEAKS:
People today equate material things to happiness, hence the rush to become rich and acquire material things that money can buy, only to find that hapiness eludes them.


A young man may say "I'ld be the happiest man if I can just get the latest BMW car." He gets it and while driving, someone runs into it. He has to spend money repairing it, this deosnt make him happy. Or a new model comes out and he's no longer happy the old model.


A young house wife with some young children may say "if I just had my own house I'ld be happy forever". She gets it, her neighbours are terrible. They throw their garbage over the fence into her yard. She's having problems with her kids and all of a sudden that house that she thought she was going to love so much doesn't look so hot.


Happiness from material things is a very short lived, temporary form of happiness. Its not enduring. And material things in themselves just can't keep making us happy - that's one of the illusions about being rich, thinking "riches are really going make me happy", yet there are a lot of rich people that are very sad. Happiness has to be something more than just material possessions.

I remember an illustration about how we truly can be happy, and its so apt. Its about a butterfly representing happiness.




A man wants to be happy and so he's chasing that butterfly with a net. The butterfly is flying away and he runs after the butterfly and brings the net down, but he misses it everytime and all day long he's chasing that butterfly but he keeps missing it and the butterfly just gets away, and he's frustrated.

Another man doesn't chase the butterfly. He has a little piece of ground next to his house and he digs it up, takes the stones out, cultivates it, makes it real pretty, plants a nice garden with some pretty flowers around it, works hard all day long doing that, perspiring in the hot sun and he sits down on a rock at the end of the day and he looks at that garden that he worked hard on and the butterfly comes down and lands on his shoulder.

The point is - Happiness is not a direct object, you don't just pursue happiness. Happiness is a by-product, it comes with work. It comes with service to God. Little wonder the Bible gives us the formula to being truly happy - Matthew 5:3

@bold,
Psa 34:14 Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.



peace:

H7965

שָׁלֹם שָׁלוֹם
shâlôm shâlôm
shaw-lome', shaw-lome'
From H7999; safe, that is, (figuratively) well, happy, friendly; also (abstractly) welfare, that is, health, prosperity, peace: - X do, familiar, X fare, favour, + friend, X greet, (good) health, (X perfect, such as be at) peace (-able, -ably), prosper (-ity, -ous), rest, safe (-ly), salute, welfare, (X all is, be) well, X wholly.
Total KJV occurrences: 236


@ underline,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Being poor in spirit, without the gifts of the spirit,
is hardly a formula for being happy, seeing as the gifts of the spirit include peace and joy - happiness.


The poor physically have little material possessions
the poor in spirit have little in the way of gifts of the Spirit.
They will be filled though, when they eventually attain the Kingdom of Heaven, then they will be happy of course.

bingbagbo:
buhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not a well person

MizJanet:
welcome , welcome

How are you today ? Hope all is well . I want us to actually think together about this , i know you will ask that "what" ?

Have heard the preaching of many giants of religion like t.d jakes, Crefto dollar and many others , have also listen to their audios and many of them preach the same thing in common . Thats where we are going , according to an audio i listened to , the preacher says " when you die, only your body is in the grave but as for you yourself, the real you , you neva die , you are immortal. "

Hmm, hope you also belive this ? If yes i have a question: when Jesus of Nazareth died , does the real person called Jesus died or its only the flesh that died while Jesus of nazareth himself neva die ? Think

At least, that preacher said the real you, the real person is immortal. So why did you christians believe the real Jesus die, when he is indeed immortal ?

Why would an unbeliever be spending her time discussing Christianity?

MizJanet:
Another way of sayin i dont kNoW what to say?

Kindly leave the thread. Since u gat nothing to contribute to the op

@bold, No what he said was "it would be a complete waste of time and knowledge"
and he is right about that.


Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Jesus could have had you in mind when He said that.

you may have noticed by now, that I too do not cast pearls before swine,
but like to show up some of your wrongs.

CAPTIVATOR:
No wonder , this is how you people turn christianity to mockery

You are not a christian, jw keep fooling yourself

you join MizJanet, Naital, johnydon22 and other unbelievers here in trying to put down a Christian.

and you fail miserably as the other unbelievers do.

The Angel of the Lord, who is Spirit by the way, is a handsome dude.

Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Naital:
lol.

@bold. According to your assertions, it would be safe to assume that these angels (& possibly God too) have body parts ....like... hmmm...hmmmm.

I suggest you remove "etc" from your post, cos you are triggering some funny imaginations. Let's limit the body parts to hands, mouths, legs and... I guess they have heads too.

Hard to see how that quote is funny
but some here agree with you
perverted minds imagine other things.

In this thread there are two sides
a couple of Christians, and unbelievers
jw comes here, and what does jw do?
jw argues with Christian
showing yet once again which side jw belongs to
the side of unbelievers.

couldn't be honest if their lives depended on it

it does by the way

MizJanet:
Oooops , another style of saying i dont know

johnydon22:
Hahahahahahaha I like this guy, your dodging style is epic...

You just made my day, it was one hell of a good laugh...

Hahaha it was a good laugh, thank you

Sorry abeg, if i had known i wouldn't have decided to place you under some questions, at least it would have averted this embarrassing show..lolzz.

Accept my apology, didnt mean to make you embarrass yourself like this

No that's quite alright Hahahaha

johnydon22:
Hahahahaha another method of accepting you don't know?

You have being here quoting bible verses, Just one question and you are on your heels.

What you call blasphemy, i call skepticism .. So just say you dont know or just answer..

He knows people who will go to hell before creating them Yes or No??

Ok, you dont know or just answer..

johnydon22:
Hahahahahaha is that a dodging method? . . .. . . You have been speaking for him here why dont you finish up since he needs u to speak for him..


He knows people who will go to hell before creating them right? Please answer..

No I'm not going to tell you,
don't like blasphemers.

johnydon22:
So he already knows the people that will go to hell before creating them right?

pity you can't ask Him, right?

CANTICLES:
... Where is CAPTIVATOR ? Pls come to this thread .


Let me just observe

Lets hear from you too, seems all the godless are here

johnydon22:
You know i didn't ask for this long boring quotes, my question was simple i dont know where the long post came from...

Wow such a long post, I wouldn't be surprised if you never asked me anything again.

So you mean

No I don't

why do you people have a knack for contradicting yourselves? Here is your post that i quoted.

Now you change your stance

surely you mistaken

and assert the opposite...

no i didn't do that

Which one is it: Does he know the people that will be saved millions of years before creating them or not

There is nothing He does not know

be sure to ask me anything more you want to know,
you come back now you hear.

MizJanet:
You are just setting traps for yourself

Who is an unbeliver ? A muslim, a jew or millions of hypocrites shoutin christinaity, who carry bible up and down but secretely visits sexuality sites , fornicate and masturbate like a natural man ? Or those pastors we heard on daily basis perpetuatin fraud and adultery ? Or those of you that call others " slowpoke" like your hypocrite brother up there ? Hypocrisy at its peak

Truth isn't hypocrisy, but I'm not surprised you don't know yourself.

MizJanet:

Wetin dis one dey talk ?

Let me help u rearrange the question: Abraham and isaac make heaven without Jesus dyin for their sin ? Yes or no

You are not interisted in Truth and you don't understand Truth

MizJanet:

Wetin dis one dey talk ?

And I don't play games with God's way, as with you it's all a game, I may continue to show up some of your unscriptual nonsense though.

johnydon22:
so god already knew the people who will have to go to hell, millions of years before creating them?

There is nothing in these verses about those to go to hell.
It looks to me from scriptures that names can be written into and erased from the book of life,
so it must have something to do with the individual, whether he wants to be saved or not.

Some though are apparently chosen to be saved:

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

MizJanet:
@bold , Jesus born by Mary is son of God NOT God. K

You have little to no understanding

God has satan blind those who love a lie
God Himself blinds those who hate truth
look up the verses.

MizJanet:
^^
Abraham and Isaac made heaven without Jesus ? Yes or no

No

It was known even before the creation who is to be saved. Search for the scriptures. If you want to.
Jesus Christ-the Word worked in the lives of the Old Testament Saints just as He does the New Testament believers.

1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Naital:
I don't insult pple. ... & I never said I'm like her.



See who's got a bad mouth.

That's what you like to think and say, but that line to me was humorous.

MizJanet:
Okay, thanks i taught jesus is God BUT your answer clarify that jesus is not God, Mary cannot give birth to God and canot breastfeed God, so cannot be the mother of God , since her son Jesus is not God

My answer doesn't clarify that at all.
Mary is not the mother of God because God the Word-Jesus Christ is from everlasting, before Mary or anyone or anything was created.
Mary is the Mother of the Son of God, that is Mary is the Mother of the flesh Jesus, and not the Mother of His Spirit which is God the Word.

VickJames:
The child of Eve.

After the birth of Seth, Eve gave birth to other children which Cain married and gave birth to Enoch.

You know why?

They live hundreds of years, so there was time for births and growing up.

I agree with that.

I wonder if there is another possibility, that Adam and Eve were not the only people created by God, but just the first two.
God didn't just create two fish, two birds, two animals, but many.