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1. jews, muslims, and atheists, don't believe that Jesus is God

neither do the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

2. jews, muslims, and atheists, don't believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus

neither do the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect



3. the antichrist pharisees who condemned Jesus, didn't believe that Jesus was God
neither do the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect,
who are today's pharisees.

Jozzy4:
Oga, dont change the topic ... He was asking that since it was God that manifest in FLESH as u argue, then what do u call the woman that give birth to God in flesh ? Why not accept he is the mother of God ?

brocab answer was a good one, and way over your head jozzy dum


God the Word became man, Mary became the Mother of that man Jesus Christ
Mary is not the mother of the Word of God who was with God in the beginning
two persons one God, look back through my posts dum, it's all there

you jozzy dum could not possibly know or understand anything of the spirit

Jozzy4:
His question is too hard for you to comprehend, , he asked for the focus of your argument, . am sure u dont have focus , you are just busy showing the world u lack knowledge

Jozzy4:
You lack knowledge, answer : Can theos be translated as " a god " , Yes or No ?

Really, the world is reading this, wow, you and a/c dolphinheart are certinally off one mind,
pity the mind belongs to satan.

duh, of course theos can mean a god, but not in John 1:1
go back and read my posts oh jozzy dum
I'm not repeating myself for one with no understanding

jozzy dum say's someone lacks knowledge

Barristter07:
dont mind those 419's , if truly brocab believe the statement God was manifest in flesh . what stops him from accepting Mary as the mother of God ? Or is it not God that was manifest in the flesh that Mary gave birth to ?

lie lie barrisster

it's typical that you of the jehovahs witnesses sect who say they are Christians and are not but do lie and are the synagogue of Satan, would say that Christians are frauds

God laughs, He knows your day is coming, you will go to your place antichrist

Jesus of the Christians said:
Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

dolphinheart:
I know sincerity is not in you,

truly the verses I posted do show that the Word is God
and of course you continue to be the unbelieving lie lie, and the son of that great false accuser

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

dolphinheart:
when you read the scriptures , do you try to understand what you read or you are just looking for words that support your beliefs, the person talking called jesus God and in the same breath called himself the God of jesus? how far has the search of words affected your understanding of what is being said.

when you read the scriptures a/c, do you try to believe what you read, no you don't is clear
you are in great unbelief and of course you have no understanding at all

Father called Jesus God, and Jesus is called God, so Christians believe it
that Father is God of the Son does not alter the fact that God and the Word is God
but you a/c dolphinheart don't believe the Bible and change and twist what it says, you
deny Christ at every oppurtunity and are antichrist.

You deny Father God also false jw:
if this verse is saying that the Word had a beginning, like you say it is
then you are also saying Father had a beginning, because in the beginning the Word was with God

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

The Word was with God in the beginning

do you know anything a/c, no you don't

dolphinheart:
the person who is with someone cannot be the same person with the one he is with!.

Ha ha, no a/c dolphinheart He is not the same person He is the same God, (Father and Son = two persons) duh

dolphinheart:
moreover , God does not have a beginning!

ha ha, oh boy, John 1:1 doesn't say the Word had a beginning, it says, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God,
so in the beginning the Word was with God, did Father have a beginning?
the beginning spoken of is the beginning of creation, duh, how dark is your darkness

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Mat_6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

dolphinheart:
I can see you are much confused with the use of capital letters when theo's is being translated to English.

Everyone except the blinded false jw's can see who is much confused:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

At first, this is difficult to understand. God Almighty was seen (Exodus 6:2-3) which means it was not the Angel of the Lord, for an angel is not God Almighty; and at least Moses saw God and not in a vision or dream, as the LORD Himself attests in Num. 12:6-8. If these verses mean what they say, then we naturally assume we have a contradiction. Actually, the contradiction exists in our understanding, not in the Bible, which is always the case with alleged biblical contradictions.

The solution is simple. All you need to do is accept what the Bible says. If the people of the OT were seeing God, the Almighty God, and Jesus said that no one has ever seen the Father (John 6:46), then they were seeing God Almighty but not the Father. It was someone else in the Godhead. I suggest that they were seeing the Word before He became incarnate. In other words, they were seeing Jesus.

If God is a Trinity, then John 1:18 is not a problem either because in John chapter one, John writes about the Word (Jesus) and God (the Father). In verse 14 it says the Word became flesh. In verse 18 it says no one has seen God. Since Jesus is the Word, God then, refers to the Father. This is typically how John writes of God: as a reference to the Father. We see this verified in Jesus' own words in John 6:46 where He said that no one has ever seen the Father. Therefore, Almighty God was seen but not the Father. It was Jesus before His incarnation. There is more than one person in the Godhead, and the doctrine of the Trinity must be true.

carm dot org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/has-anyone-seen-god-or-not

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2. Has not seen
(Exodus 33:20), “But He [God] said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
(John 1:18), “No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”
(John 5:37), “"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.”
(John 6:46), "Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
(1 Tim. 6:15-16), “He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.”

It is evident above that God was seen. But, considering the "can't-see-God" verses, some would understandably argue that there would be a contradiction. One explanation offered is that the people were seeing visions, or dreams, or the Angel of the LORD (Num. 22:22-26; Judges 13:1-21) and not really God Himself. But the problem is that the verses cited above do not say vision, dream, or Angel of the LORD. They say that people saw God (Exodus 24:9-11), that God was seen, and that He appeared as God Almighty (Exodus 6:2-3).

more coming

Has anyone seen God or not?

Exodus 24:9-11, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 6:2-3; and John 1:18

1. Has seen
(Gen. 17:1), “Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; Walk before Me, and be blameless;
(Gen. 18:1) Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day.”
(Exodus 6:2-3), "God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am the LORD; 3and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name, LORD, I did not make Myself known to them.”
(Exodus 24:9-11), “Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank.”
(Num. 12:6-8, “He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7"Not so, with My servant Moses, He is faithful in all My household; 8With him I speak mouth to mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant, against Moses ?"
(Acts 7:2), "And he [Stephen] said, 'Hear me, brethren and fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran . . . '"

more coming

God and the Word was God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

God(God and the Word) created:
Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him(the Word Jesus Christ); and without him was not any thing made that was made.

God(God and the Word) is "us" and "our":
Gen 1:26  And God said, Let "us" make man in "our" image, after "our" likeness: ....
Gen 1:27  So God created man "in his own image", "in the image of God" created he him; ....
verse 26. two persons (God and the Word) "in our own image", = verse 27. one God "in His own image", "in the image of God"







2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The Word-Jesus Christ is the image of God, it's all so plain and clear,
but as also shown in that verse, non believers such as false jw have been blinded.






poor antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect, they cannot see and believe any of this God given clear and plain Truth,
they don't believe the Bible and change and twist what is says

Jesus says:
Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

There are none more unbelieving and untruthful than the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

Barristter07:
what exactly is your argument here ,

- that theos cannot be translated as " a god" , or

- Jesus is the supreme being of the universe and thus cannot be called " a god " ?

lie lie barristter

I assume you read my post, and then you ask what is my argument,
read it again oh blinded one

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

dolphinheart:
it was not me that defined the greek word "theos", I know sincerity is not in you, you must have checked the Greek word "theos" and seen it can be translated as "a god" hence you could not talk about that. If those who had vast knowledge in Greek could tell you that "theos could be translated as " a god" , I don't know what authority you have to say they are wrong.
2316. theos ►

Strong's Concordance

theos: God, a god

Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Short Definition: God, a god
Definition: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.


john 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

The word cannot be with God and still be the God he was with!


Jesus did not ask Thomas any question, talk less of question about his divinity, Thomas exclaimed , not that he answered a question.
A lot of people do what Thomas did when they are being told something spectacular or beyond normal , after hearing what the person had to say they respond with the word "oh my god!, or "jesus" or "father Lord". There response does not mean that the person who was talking to them is their god, or father or jesus, it was just an exclamation.

some translations tells you its an exclamation while some will put the exclamation Mark to show you what Thomas statement is.

New International Version
Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

New Living Translation
"My Lord and my God!" Thomas exclaimed.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Thomas responded to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Thomas responded to Jesus, "My Lord and my God!"

There are some translations who in a bid to support the false doctrine of trinity will tell you that Thomas answered a question that jesus did not ask.
The interesting fact is that jesus did ask his disciples about who he is, let's look at jesus question and the answer the disciples gave.
King James Version
Mt 16:15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

LOOK AT THE ANSWER GIVEN:
King James Version
Mt 16:16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

The disciples know (including Thomas ) that jesus is not the living God, he is the son of the living God sent by the living God.
Did jesus say that what Peter said was wrong , no! , look at what jesus said to that answer that Simon gave.
King James Version
Mt 16:17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Did jesus later alter this belief and later told them he is their God, no, in fact he made sure he sent messages to then after his resurrection to remind them who their God is, look at the verse below
King James Version
Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
jesus once again sent messages to his disciples, telling them who thier God is.

did Thomas get the message? Yes
King James Version
Joh 20:18Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.

Did the disciples teach otherwise, different from what jesus taught them about who their God is ? The answer is no! look at what they said at different occasions below!

King James Version
1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

King James Version
Eph 1:17 [Color=blue]That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory,[/color] may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Col 1:3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,

The disciples has taught us what they learnt from jesus and thus they say this :

1Jo 4:15 Whoever acknowledges that Jesus is God’s Son, God remains in union with such one and he in union with God.
Jehovahs witnesses acknowledge that jesus is God's son, they Do not add any derived, false analogy to that simple statement from the scriptures.


when you read the scriptures , do you try to understand what you read or you are just looking for words that support your beliefs, the person talking called jesus God and in the same breath called himself the God of jesus? how far has the search of words affected your understanding of what is being said.


the person who is with someone cannot be the same person with the one he is with!.
moreover , God does not have a beginning!
I can see you are much confused with the use of capital letters when theo's is being translated to English.

mendacious dolphinheart

As I said yesterday, it's easy to belong to the jehovahs witnesses sect,
you just don't believe the Bible and change what it says.
That's what you did here and what you do all the time antichrist dolphinheart.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


And of course you cannot believe or understand such truths without God in you,
such truths as God and the Word being God are foolishness to you.

1Co_2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

All the Bible translations that came up in my search for John 1:1
all say "the Word was God"


American Standard Version
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John 1:1 (ASV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Bible in Basic English
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John 1:1 (BBE) From the first he was the Word, and the Word was in relation with God and was God.

Common English Bible
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John 1:1 (CEB) In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Common English Bible w/ Apocrypha
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John 1:1 (CEBA) In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

The Complete Jewish Bible
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John 1:1 (CJB) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
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John 1:1 (CSB) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Darby Translation
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John 1:1 (DBY) In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Standard Version
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John 1:1 (ESV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Good News Translation
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John 1:1 (GNT) In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Good News Translation w/ Apocrypha
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John 1:1 (GNTA) In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

GOD'S WORD Translation
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John 1:1 (GW) In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Hebrew Names Version
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John 1:1 (HNV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jubilee Bible 2000
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John 1:1 (JUB) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and the Word was God.

King James Version
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John 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

King James Version w/ Apocrypha
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John 1:1 (KJVA) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Lexham English Bible
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John 1:1 (LEB) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Message Bible
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John 1:1 (MSG) The Word was first, the Word present to God, God present to the Word. The Word was God,

New American Standard Bible
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John 1:1 (NAS) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Century Version
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John 1:1 (NCV) In the beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New International Reader's Version
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John 1:1 (NIRV) In the beginning, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New International Version
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John 1:1 (NIV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New King James Version
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John 1:1 (NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Living Translation
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John 1:1 (NLT) In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Revised Standard
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John 1:1 (NRS) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha
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John 1:1 (NRSA) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
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John 1:1 (RHE) In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God.

Revised Standard Version
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John 1:1 (RSV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Revised Standard Version w/ Apocrypha
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John 1:1 (RSVA) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Third Millennium Bible
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John 1:1 (TMB) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha
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John 1:1 (TMBA) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Tyndale
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John 1:1 (TYN) In the beginnynge was the worde and the worde was with God: and the worde was God.

The Webster Bible
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John 1:1 (WBT) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

World English Bible
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John 1:1 (WEB) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Weymouth New Testament
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John 1:1 (WNT) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Wycliffe
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John 1:1 (WYC) In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word. [In the beginning was the word, that is, God's Son, and the word was at God, and God was the word.]

Young's Literal Translation
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John 1:1 (YLT) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;



John used the word "theos-God" for Father God
John used the word "theos-God" for the Word

John would not have used the same Word for both Father and Son if both Father and Son were not God

All the Bible translators of course knew this and much more.
But not the translators of the satanic new world translation who left the first instance of "theos" as "God"
but changed the second instance of "theos" to "a god"
such is the evil of the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

It's easy to be a member of the jehovahs witnesses sect

wherever Bible verses don't agree with their satanic doctrines they just don't believe them
and change and twist around what they say.

false jw's are antichrists who deny Christ and His written word




the jehovahs witnesses sect lie and call the Word Jesus Christ "a god"
they put Him at the same level as satan, who is "a god"

dolphinheart:
riptures daily to see whether these things were so.

Acts 17:11 King James Bible
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

a/c dolphinheart

They were not like the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect who change and twist the scriptures to make them so

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

dolphinheart:
all you needed to do is to show that my answer is wrong about John 1:1.
pls try and do so.
You brought two options, I chosed one of them, pls proof that my option is wrong.

a/c dolphinheart

Here are some verses showing that you are wrong about the Word being "a god" in John 1:1

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was "God"

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my "God".

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O "God", is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore "God", thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O "God", is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore "God", even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
^^^
Psalm and Hebrew verses, Father calls Jesus "God"
and both Father and Jesus are called "God" as in John 1:1 

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with "God", and the Word was "God". 


Now mendacious dolphinheart show all the verses where Jesus is said to be "a god"


mendacious: telling lies, especially habitually; dishonest; lying; untruthful:
a mendacious person

dolphinheart:
yes, they are proud in a good way.

lie lie dolphinheart

you are proud in your lies
you are proud in teaching that the Word is "a god"
you are proud in teaching that Christs body was not resurrected
you are proud in teaching that almighty God and mighty God are two diffrent god's
you are proud in denying that the Word Jesus Christ is God at every opportunity and against so many scriptures
you are proud of not believing the Bible

your pride is evil and of course is from satan

dolphinheart:
I'm not going to follow your unprovable claims, some like you, use such statements and will say the NIV is right and the KJV is wrong when you look at 1 ti 3: 16.

some pastors here, anytime they want to lie, they will tell you it's the spirit of God that is talking to them. They use such method like you are trying to do cud they know it cannot be easily verified.

The truth about 1st timothy 3:16 can be verified all one has to do is look at the manuscripts available that contain that verse. You will see their is no Greek word for " God " in that verse.

I posted many scriptures showing that Jesus is God
but of course you a/c dolphinheart doesn't believe the Bible and desperately want's to have people believe that
the Word Jesus Christ is not God.

Of course you fail lie lie, to all but the blind.
a/c dolphinheart is a dubious person

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

brocab:
Prove I didn't quote {Psalms 83:18} KJV I accept to the point without the hybrid name Jehovah, but the NWT no-one accepts.

dolphinheart:
haha, so you don't accept every word in the KJV, yet you say it is accurate. you twist all the time brocab, you are not rooted to a stand.

bro, the twister dolphinheart not only falsely accuses, but a/c has stolen my laugh

Joh_10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

dolphinheart:
I would have responded, only if you had not edited my post.

dolphinheart:
[quote author=dolphinheart post=52104659]Again you had to edit my post. removing the scriptures posted.

if you had left my post the way they are , if you had not edited the truth out of it, if you had read the scriptures you deliberately removed, you probably would have seen the truth. If you continue to edit peoples post, you will never get the meaning of their words. what I'm trying to say is encompassed in the whole writeup and not just in one sentence or parts of a sentence.

are you denying what you said again? are you now saying you did not edit my post? stop confusing brocab, cus he is already praising you for editing my post!

dolphinheart:
If everyone acts that same way, only talking about things he wants to talk about, editing other people's explanation and scriptures, then we will not learn anything.
IF SCRIPTURES ARE SHOWN TO YOU, AND YOU FEEL THE EXPLANATIONS GIVEN ARE WRONG, A SINCERE PERSON WILL QUOTE THOSE SCRIPTURES AND GIVE HIS OWN EXPLANATIONS, A SINCERE PERSON WILL NOT REMOVE IT FROM THE POST, ACTING AS IF THOSE VERSES WHERE NOT QUOTE AS PART OF THE POST.

dolphinheart:
your post confirms my words, you could not explain the verses I quoted.

dolphinheart:
where do you think the editing took place, go read my post carefully and understand. I said he edits my post when quoting me!. When you quote someone, does the post you quoted come out in green or in white, everyone knows it's in green, so your excuse is untenable.

a/c dolphinheart

of course the over and over again continual repeated lies and false accusing
which is what you do best
and oh what confusion ha ha

dolphinheart:
hope you saw what I asked, post the verses again!

I told you you were just grand standing, big mouthing,
you want to address those Alpha and omega first and last verses
but you won't go and reply to all those posts I wrote that expose you
they are not to far back in this thread, there are a few pages of them, they are easy to find lie lie
reply to those verses like you say you want to or continue a coward
we know which it will be, dont we a/c dolphinheart

dolphinheart:
It is also evident that you did not adress or give your understanding of the scriptures quoted by me.

Ac 26:23that the Christ was to suffer and that as the first to be resurrected from the dead, he was going to proclaim light both to this people and to the nations.”

Col 1:18and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might become the one who is first in all things;

Re 1:5and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood

Re 2:8“And to the angel of the congregation in Smyrʹna write: These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to

oh but I did address those scriptures and I gave you a link to that just yeaterday oh great antichrist lie lie

here i will adress them again:

verses 23, 18, 5, and 8, Christ was first resurrected from the dead, but that not why He is the "first and the last" though, He is the first and the last because He is God the first and the last, the Alpha and the Omega
John rightly called Him "the Almighty" rev 1:8

you may see in your verse there rev 2:8 that Jesus the first and the last became dead,
Jesus was the "first and the last" before He became dead, He is not the "first and the last because He was the first resurrected, oh continual lie lie

show me where I lie you say, ha ha in about your every post that's where a/c

ScienceWatch:
This may help you, JOHNW74,

Here Jesus explains to pastors world-wide and forever, why all the miracles, prophecy, Signs and Wonders are an extremely important part of His Mission and the missions of future pastors. Firstly, Jesus says clearly in these biblical refs that the WORKS that He does bear witness that the Father has sent him.

Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me.

Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who has sent him.

Today, THE WHOLE WORLD IS blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches.

Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

I don't know anything about the Scoan Church or Emmanuel TV


God did say we will do miracles as He did

Joh 14:12  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Jesus gave his apostles and disciples power to perform miracles and many are spoken of in the book of Acts and elsewhere.

There are those doing fake miracles also, once when I visited a church that supposedly did miracles, healings etc. they were very obviously fake, it was amazing to me that the people there believe them, and apparently continued on in that church of satan.
Just like people here at this forum who belong to the jehovahs witnesses sect have been shown many Bible verses that show the Word-Jesus Christ is God, and yet they remain non believers in their church of satan, rejecting the Truth-Jesus Christ and denying Him, they are antichrists.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Barristter07:
King James Version:

"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Psalm 83:18.

Straight from the KJV, is the KJV a fraudulent translation for using the name ?

lie lie Barristter07

Psa 83:18  That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Yes Yahweh is the name of God

it is the name of God and the Word, which is God
the Word who became the man Jesus Christ appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob


Exo 6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.



Joh_6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Joh 5:37  And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape

dolphinheart:
if you had left my post the way they are , if you had not edited the truth out of it, if you had read the scriptures you deliberately removed, you probably would have seen the truth. If you continue to edit peoples post, you will never get the meaning of their words. what I'm trying to say is encompassed in the whole writeup and not just in one sentence or parts of a sentence.

It is also evident that you did not adress or give your understanding of the scriptures quoted by me.

Ac 26:23that the Christ was to suffer and that as the first to be resurrected from the dead, he was going to proclaim light both to this people and to the nations.”

Col 1:18and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might become the one who is first in all things;

Re 1:5and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood

Re 2:8“And to the angel of the congregation in Smyrʹna write: These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to

a/c dolphinheart

I certinally did, but you cannot help but lie

here it is:
https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/146#51908688

show me where I lied you say
you lie and falsely accuse in most of your posts

Barristter07:
Solite3

( Post A2)

Barristter07:
Go back to the post tagged A2 and point out what is not scriptural in the post, comprehend ?

lie lie Barristter07

a normal person would just quote the post
but you like to big note and pretend you are a Barrister, yet you cannot even spell the word-your username

brocab:
Bless John74 soul-If He did edit your post, he did it to return to you the favour you have in the past changed our post.
Bless the Man's soul, he was correcting your mistakes-like a teacher corrects the children in a classroom-like our Father in Heaven corrects His own while reading the Word Of God.
Bless John74's soul...
Well done good and faithful servant...

bro I don't change anything in antichrist dolphinheart posts,
as you pointed out he does,
I just simply quote the things I want to talk about,
that's a sensible thing to do, but of course lie lie loves to
lie and falsely accuse on many diffrent things,

As is the way of a/c

brocab:
{1 John 4:12} No-one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God dwells in us.
{John 1:18}No-one has ever seen God at any time, only the begotten Son.
{John 6:46} No-one has seen the Father..
And the JW's still can't see it.

bro, I believe many of them can see it, but they reject it, they reject the Truth, which is Christ
they are antichrist, rejecting so much scripture that we post concerning Him

dolphinheart:
post the verse again and we will examine who was talking in that verse .

You said certain Alpha and Omega verses in Rev, were not Jesus talking

I showed that it certinally was Jesus talking in those verses, not just one

There is no need for me to post the verses again, you never replied to my post,
go back and reply now, or are you just grand standing, big mouthing?
yep, of course you are oh antichrist

dolphinheart:
if you had left my post the way they are , if you had not edited the truth out of it, if you had read the scriptures you deliberately removed,

poor lie lie dolphinheart, all you have is your lies and false accusations
that you repeat over and over again

explaining twice to you is once more than enough,
but you love to lie and falsely accuse,
which is normal behaviour for an antichrist,
and you are truly that, aren't you

dolphinheart:
Good that you admit that you really did edit my post, expecially the scriptures, hope brocab sees your admission.

poor lie lie dolphinheart, twice I told you but you so confused,
such is the way of antichrists

dolphinheart:
you are lying, those verses did not say what you posted.

1 ti 3: 16 did not say God was manifest in flesh,

lie lie dolphinheart

once again, of course it's you, not brocab who is the liar,
we know that Jesus was manifest in the flesh
and we know Jesus is God

You search for many translations that say "He" instead of "God"
such is your denial of the Lord,
there are many Bible verses to show that "God" in 1 Timothy 3:16 is indeed correct.

You are an antichrist going to extreme lengths to deny the Lord Jesus Christ.


Here are some Bible verses which show that "God" in 1 Timothy 3:16 is correct:

Jesus is God with us:
Isa 7:14  Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Jesus is mighty God:
Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
 
Jesus is Yahweh our Righteousness:
Jer 23:5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 
Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

The Word was God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

God purchased the Church with His own blood:
Act 20:28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Jesus is the Lord from Heaven:
1Co 15:47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Jesus considered Himself equal to God:
Php 2:6  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 
Php 2:7  But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 
Php 2:8  And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 



These Bible verses all show that Jesus is God,
and
Jesus was manifest to us,
God was manifest to us.

do you believe all these Bible verses showing that Jesus Christ is God lie lie dolphinheart, of course NOT,
you are antichrist.

you search for translations which you think support your satanic doctrines, but they don't
they just say "HE" instead of "God", there are plenty of Bible verses showing the Lord Jesus Christ is God,
oh antichrist

you sure do lie, all the time mr a/c
and you say: show me where I lied, ha ha ha

We know Father God has never been seen by man,
and we know by corresponding OT and NT verses posted that Jesus is Yahweh.

Here are two more Bible verses that satans disciples-the jehovahs witnesses sect don't believe:

Isa 40:3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD(Yahweh), make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Mar 1:3  The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord(Jesus), make his paths straight.

^^^
Isaiah was referring to Yahweh
Mark was referring to Jesus

Jesus is Yahweh

JMAN05:
Jesus audience comprise of people of varying ages and genders. Pastors are shepherds, Jesus was not addressing his shepherds therein, but a crowd of different genders and ages.

"Jesus was not addressing his shepherds therein, but a crowd of different genders and ages."

ha ha, it would have been odd if everyone was the same age

were the diffrent genders male and female, or were there more genders than that there?

Truly Jesus was adressing the whole crowd, His whole audience including His Apostles-pastors-shepherds, about many issues including false prophets like todays false jw's

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

JMAN05:
He was not addressing pastors. He was making prophesy of what we should beware of, bad eggs that claim to represent him. He never sent such people to preach nor to represent him. They do so on there own. Christ never knew them. When you observe there fruit, run away. Nothing there was for true followers of Christ.

Jesus audience comprise of people of varying ages and genders. Pastors are shepherds, Jesus was not addressing his shepherds therein, but a crowd of different genders and ages.

Again, Jesus was not addressing pastors but was making a prophesy of how to know false prophets. Those not from him.

"Jesus was not adressing pastors-shepherds, but a crowd of different genders and ages."

that's typical phony jw confusion

truly Jesus was adressing His whole audience, the whole crowd including His Apostles-shepherds telling them about many issues including conditions at His return in the end time, and about false prophets like the jehovah's witnesses sect

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.