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Jozzy4:
Liarrrrrr, Show me where the scripture said Adam saw God ?

dolphinheart:
I asked you a simple question who is the god of this world, the Greek word for God in that verse is theos, up till now you refuse to answer!

dolphinheart:
unfortunately, I don't think brocab agrees that that verse is referring to jesus, let me help you ask him , BROCAB, ARE THE THE VERSES(PRO 8: 22-30) REFER ING TO JESUS?

dolphinheart:
don't deny it , further denial will only show your true character the more , I've provided you with date and time that you made a false accusation against dolphin heart, it has been proven to be false accusation, a Christian should apologise when shown his wrong ways.



If it's true that Johnw74 made that statement you ascribe to him, pls show us where by telling us the time and date such statement was made
secondly do you agree with such statement?, that jehovah does not mean God?
I'll like to know if Johnw74 truly made such statement( TIME AND DATE SO IT CAN BE CHECKED), and if you believe such statement.

Secondly, dolphinheart is right to say he never said those words, therefore Johnw74 accusation that he made that statement is false!
johnw74 accusation on Nov 6, 6:13 pm reads: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha" 
johnw74 accusation above have been proven to be false.



Good that you accept that jehovah is the name of God, the God of jesus, the most high God, the one who jesus sits beside , the name of the one who exalted jesus, WHO JESUS IS SUBJECTED TO, THE HEAD AND GOD OF JESUS, THE ALMIGHTY GOD

dolphinheart:
You are the biggest liar on earth,

brocab:
This is funny Johnw 74-God Created Jesus.

dolphinheart:
And yet you could not post my statement that is a lie.

if you had not cut off parts of my post which contained those scriptures, then you would have seen it!


a lot of other translations support that view!


your statement means that their is more than one God, one God talking to another God!
or was God talking to himself ? no !
it also means that your 3 persons in one have different will, because if they have the same will, one wunt be telling the others what to do.

The scripture you removed tells who God is , it did not say God used God, it tells us that God used Jesus, his son.
It is evident that God did not send himself, it is evident that God cannot die, it is evident that God does not sit beside himself in heaven, therefore Jesus is not the same person as the one who the scriptures describe as God!


Again I repeat, if God was talking to another God, then it means their is more than one almighty God.



are you saying that jehovah does seek the meek ones?
Zep 2:3Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.

compare these two scriptures
isa 61:1The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek. He sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners,

Ac 10:37, 38You know the subject that was talked about throughout all Ju·deʹa, starting from Galʹi·lee after the baptism that John preached:38about Jesus who was from Nazʹa·reth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil, because God was with him.

dolphinheart:
johnw74 and dolphinheart are not the same person , so why bring up post from two different people as If one person said it.

moreover are you saying that Johnw74 said jehovah does not mean God?, if that is true, then that statement is correct, unless you will later say he did not say such.

The statement attributed to dolphinheart is true, he is correct to say "I never said jehovah means the name of God"
it is true he never said so and the accuser (johnw74), could not bring up any evidence to surpport such statements.

The accuser falsely made this a cusations by 6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post he stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

the above accusation by johnw74 is false , dolphinheart never said that!



This is true, the dictionary never said self existent means God, and no proof has been brought forward that the dictionary said So!




again, if we go look at Johnw74 statement on Nov 6, 6:13 pm, it is different from what you stated above
above statement : you said Jehovah doesn't mean God
original accusation : "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THEIR IS AN ATTEMPT TO ALTER THE ORIGINAL ACCUSATION BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DISCOVERED TO BE FALSE!
DOLPHINHEART DEFENCE HAS BEEN THE SAME, HE NEVER MADE THE STATEMENT HE IS BEING ACCUSED OF MAKING!,



You accusations has once again be shown with evidence(time and date you made the false accusations), you could not deny that you did not make such false accusations, you are now trying to edit it!
If I ever make false accusations , I'll apologize, it does not take anything away from me, if you accuse someone of saying something and that person said he did not say such, then you should apologise !

johnw74:
of course Jehovah being the only self existent "means" he is God

dolphinheart:
modification has stated, jehovah is the only self existent God.

dolphinheart:
No doubt it is yours, but also it is with no doubt that we now know that this sentence of yours is false , in that sentence, you claimed I said something and it has been proven to be false accusations. Christians don't make false accusations, and if they do , they apologise for such wrongdoing. let's wait and see if you will show you are a christian!


1. Give an example of false accusation o!, you keep claiming I accuse falsely but you don't give an example
2. post the post you are referring to Sir!, stop this nonsense, my post mostimes contain more than " Jehovah is the name of God", you want to now blame me for your inability to read the whole post? habA!
You don't read, you just search for words to fight over!
3. I deliberately did not answer you, first I want to clear the issue on if Jehovah is the name of God and Jehovah does not mean God, then we can go look at what Jehovah really means. my move was proven correct when I showed you some Scholars view about the word " Jehovah" expecially from its Hebrew word, yet you could not grasp it!


yes, you explained your own personal understanding, which the scriptures have proven to be false, you had to modify an explanation before you can arrive at your understanding.



the scriptures I posted and the explanations that follows are not lies.
The father alone, with no other persons attached to him is my God , THAT IS WHAT THE SCRIPTURES TAUGHT ME!
THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, NO OTHER PLACE CAN YOU FIND ANY OTHER AS THE TRUE GOD!


Good , I hope you saw the definition, it did not say "jehovah means God"
brocab, I also hope you too can see how many times the KJV claims the word translated to Jehovah occurs in the bible , it's not the seven times you claim o!


Good you are learning, though this is according to the KJV.


modification has stated, jehovah is the only self existent God.


the dictionary did teach this, you have seen the discription of God name, that identifies who that God is!, he is the only self existent, it does not mean that that name means God cus he is the only only God who bears that name.
For example :
john means " the self existant"
John is the only man that is self existent
does John mean "man" ? absolutely not!
man has his discription and definition just like God!


at no point have I refused to respond to it, I've shown you several times that your personaly made definition is wrong , and that you had to modify the words given by the dictionary to arrive at your definitions.
self existant does not mean God ,neither does God only mean self existent!



it could be true, yes, but you will need to add the source of your facts, you refuse to add any source that says " jehovah means God".


so we have a true Jehovah, brocab, I hope you are reading that their is really someone named jehovah!



good, so you can see that the dico did not say God means Jehovah, neither Did it say God means self existent!
YOur can also see that others apart from jehovah are called gods , even though they are not self existent!


1. you are now God, able to know what others are thinking, I juba for you!
2. any addition you make must be supported with proof from source, not personally made up belief.


Your yourself can see how derived your analogy is, also you had to infuse a false statement that self existent means God.
You yourself has posted the definition and meaning of God, no part of it says God means self existent!


had to scratch out the false statement!


false statement derived from false personal analogy


pls who is the god of this world?
note the Greek word used for god in that verse is "thoes" o!
Strong's Concordance
theos: God, a god

Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Short Definition: God, a god
Definition: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.


As long as you cant bring one proof , i will not respont to that , but it will be known that the scholars agree with me :
Bible > Strong's > Hebrew > 3068

◄ 3068. Yhvh ►

Strong's Concordance
Yhvh: the proper name of the God of Israel
Original Word: יְהֹוָה
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Short Definition: LORD


NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from havah
Definition
the proper name of the God of Israel
NASB Translation
GOD (314), LORD (6399), LORD'S (111).


Brown-Driver-Briggs
יהוהc. 6823 i.e. יַהְוֶה
proper name, of deity Yahweh, the proper name of the God of Israel

The scriptures agree with me :
Ps 83:18May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Ex 6:3And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.

Isa 42:8I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images.


Go and read my post again, pay attention (as I warned you) to the underlined parts of those sources I provided)

dolphinheart:
just show one instance that I lied with proof

dolphinheart:
show where I have accused you falsely!

dolphinheart:
1. When you lay accusations, supply it with facts and proof! you have a preference of laying false accusations that you always run away from when asked to defend them!

2. pls respond to the issues raised in that post, stop running away from them:
"You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, 

pls tell , are these words found In your bible in these verse!. If not pls tell us the bible you use and post the words in the verse: 
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

dolphinheart:
1.God knew what he was saying . When God said " let us make make man in our image" , he was not talking to himself , he was talking to other spirit creatures he used in the creation,

dolphinheart:
if God was talking to another God, then it means their is more than one God almighty.

dolphinheart:
Jehovah , seeks the meek ones, those who search for truth,

brocab:
I'm not interested. You a lair and the truth is not in you.
The word Jehovah is used only 7 times not only Jehovah is a name, it is also a place. God had many personal names-Jehovah is just one name, mixed together from all different languages. It is only the JW's who had added Jehovah's name throughout their bible.
Which is silly, you believe your bible is the only bible that exist-while the other bibles don't exist.
Your bible doesn't even hold the Spirit Of God-instead your bible had changed the Word Of God from the beginning to the end, your bible is unscriptural, it's a lie from the beginning-scholars that wrote your bible were men without God.
Most bibles don't even mention the name Jehovah-instead they called Him by His proper name "Lord God"
No-one is interested in your beliefs-other then the JW's, For a name that you believe is God's personal name-the bibles had surely made a mockery out from under you.
God has many names in English.
"I Am that I Am" is the name God had given to Moses.. You haven't shown any evidence to prove otherwise that God's only name is Jehovah.
The Telragramaton consist of 4 Hebrew letters "YODH-HE-WAW" And he repeated. Some versions of the bible translate the Telragrammaton as "Yehwah or Jehovah" Most translate it as "Lord" {All capital letters}
Contrary to what some Christians believe {And at least one cult} Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages
Due to fear of accidentally taken God's name in vain {Leviticus 24:16} The Jews quit saying it out loud altogether, instead of reading scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the Telragrammaton YHWH with the Word Adonai {Lord}.
You should read the bible sometime, or even better, study it? Instead of that comic book you call the Watchtowers magazine.
First answer the truth?

dolphinheart:
Excerpts from the Wikipedia(read carefully,expecially the underlined)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPS among others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" in Hebrew; ehyeh is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I am" or "I will be" (or "I shall be", for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Am Who I Am." The ancient Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 lacks a future tense as modern English does, yet a few translations render this name as "I Will Be What I Will Be", given the context of Yahwehpromising to be with his people through their future troubles.......
........The word Ehyeh is considered by many rabbinical scholars to be a first-person derivation of the Tetragrammaton, see for example Yahweh..........

......The word AahYah is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is often translated as "I will be" – as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3 – or "I shall be," as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. [color=red]Used by God to identify himself in the burning bush, the importance placed on the phrase stems from the Hebrewconception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing)........[/b]
* compare the above with the meaning with the dictionary use of the word " self existent or eternal"

[b]........... Some scholars state that the Tetragrammaton itself derives from the same verbal root, following a rabbinical interpretation of Exodus 3:14, but others counter that it may simply sound similar as intended by God........Whether the Holy Name (written as YHWH) is derived from AahYah or whether the two are individual concepts is a subject of debate among historians and theologians........
........In appearance, it is possible to render YHWH (יהוה) as an archaic third person singular imperfect form of the verb ahyah(אהיה) "to be" meaning, therefore, "He is". It is notably distinct from the root El, which can be used as a simple noun to refer to the creator deity in general, as in Elohim, meaning simply "God" (or gods). This interpretation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — AahYah "I am". Other scholars regard the triconsonantal root of hawah (הוה) as a more likely origin for the name Yahweh.[/u][/color][/b]
*hope you are understanding the relationship between the name jehovah/yaweh/ YHWH and " I am that I am/ I will be what I will be"

Now let's go back to the dictionaries and look again at the word " Jehovah"

[b]Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Jehovah'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". . 1997.
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [H] [S]
the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [adonai]) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews ( Exodus 6:2 Exodus 6:3 ). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Leviticus 24:16 . The meaning of the word appears from Exodus 3:14 to be "the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God," the "I am that I am," a convenant-keeping God.(Compare Malachi 3:6 ; Hosea 12:5 ; Revelation 1:4 Revelation 1:8 .)


Dictionaries - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [E] [H]
(I am; the eternal living one ). The Scripture appellation of the supreme Being, usually interpreted as signifying self-derived and permanent existence. The Jews scrupulously avoided every mention of this name of God, substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel-points it may happen to be written. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of ( Leviticus 24:16 ) from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offence. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year, by the high priest on the day of atonement when he entered the holy of holies; but on this point there is some doubt. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name which he should give as the credentials of his mission: "And God said unto Moses, "I AM THAT I AM (ehyea asher ehyeh ); and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." That this passage is intended to indicate the etymology of Jehovah, as understood by the Hebrews, no one has ventured to doubt. While Elohim exhibits God displayed in his power as the creator and governor of the physical universe, the name Jehovah designates his nature as he stands in relation to man, as the only almighty, true, personal, holy Being, a spirit and "the father of spirits," ( Numbers 16:22 ) comp. John 4:24 who revealed himself to his people, made a covenant with them, and became their lawgiver, and to whom all honor and worship are due.[/b]

THEREFORE JOHNW74, GOD DID NOT GIVE MOSES TWO NAMES , BUT GAVE MOSES ONE NAME, " I AM THAT I AM" BEING AN ETYMOLOGY OF THAT NAME , THE VERSES SAY:

Ex 3:13But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
Ex 3:14So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’”
Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT GOD SAID " THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER " AND NOT THIS ARE MY NAMES FOREVER".

To support this , look at the song Moses sang with other Israelites who ye told God's name :
Ex 15:2My strength and my might is Jah, since he has become my salvation. This is my God, and I will praise him; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME

dolphinheart:
before you confuse your self go and look at your post that you posted by  6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post you stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

Now the issue is , did dolphinheart make such statement? The answer is no , johnw74 false accuse dolphinheart of making that statement! he could also not provide where he saw dolphinheart make such statement.
dolphinheart request that such lies should be retracted! good Christians don't make false accusations!


Good, then listen to others who tell you more about Jehovah and go about formulating theories the dictionary did not tell you.
It is a fact that the Strongs dictionary never said
1. Jehovah means God" or
3. "self existant means God"


The strong dictionary never made that statement


yet you could not point to one place I lied


continue in your self formulated theory , I'll prefer to follow the concensus( which the KJV is part of) that Jehovah/yahweh/YHWH is the name of God!


pls give an example!

[qoute]Yes you edited your post, there was no typo there, you either came to the same conclusion as me and when I pointed it out you changed it, or you agreed with me in your confused and lying state
You can worry about why I edited it all you want, I know I did not add a particular word, and I've added it!


"that jehovah is the only self existant God"
those are my words not a dictionarys, you such a lie lie
mind you, you are so confused through lying and cannot tell what is mine and what is the dictionarys hee hee

Good that you agreed with me that the dictionary you quoted never said "Jehovah is the only self existant God."

no it won't and you still haven't learnt that

and truly Jehovah is the only self existent God,
and truly you have been saying Jehovah doesn't mean God, what a huge lie lie false accuser you are
No source you have presented ever said the underlined above, then they come from your confused mind , you have not presented anyone else who made that statement!

oh confused one try and understand what I said, it's very straight forward with no twisting like you practise, here it is again:
"by the way the Strongs dictionary gives meaning to the word Jehovah,
according to Strongs, Jehovah means the self existent,
lie lie changes it to Jehovah "is" the self existent,
and whereas that also is true, lie lie trys to evade that Jehovah also means the self existent,
not just is the self existent, but means the self existent."

so tell me confused one,
is one of these sentences false:

Jehovah is the self existent?
Jehovah mean the self existent?

you are so used to lying, twisting what is said, changing the subject etc etc that you
cannot understand plain honest language, it is foreign to you
simple question, yet you refuse to answer :
"I wonder how you understand what you wrote, the dictionary also , Imediately after that, in the same sentence says "Jewish national name of God", are you saying jehovah means that too!"


ha ha oh confused lie lie accuser, God said His name is YHWH,
God is also called Almighty God and LORD, and other,
a word can be both a title and a name

He also said His name is I AM

Exo 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 
Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 

I AM also is a name for God, lie lie

Excerpts from the Wikipedia(read carefully,expecially the underlined)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPS among others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" in Hebrew; ehyeh is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I am" or "I will be" (or "I shall be", for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Am Who I Am." The ancient Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 lacks a future tense as modern English does, yet a few translations render this name as "I Will Be What I Will Be", given the context of Yahwehpromising to be with his people through their future troubles.......
........The word Ehyeh is considered by many rabbinical scholars to be a first-person derivation of the Tetragrammaton, see for example Yahweh..........

......The word AahYah is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is often translated as "I will be" – as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3 – or "I shall be," as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. [color=red]Used by God to identify himself in the burning bush, the importance placed on the phrase stems from the Hebrewconception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing)........[/b]
* compare the above with the meaning with the dictionary use of the word " self existent or eternal"

[b]........... Some scholars state that the Tetragrammaton itself derives from the same verbal root, following a rabbinical interpretation of Exodus 3:14, but others counter that it may simply sound similar as intended by God........Whether the Holy Name (written as YHWH) is derived from AahYah or whether the two are individual concepts is a subject of debate among historians and theologians........
........In appearance, it is possible to render YHWH (יהוה) as an archaic third person singular imperfect form of the verb ahyah(אהיה) "to be" meaning, therefore, "He is". It is notably distinct from the root El, which can be used as a simple noun to refer to the creator deity in general, as in Elohim, meaning simply "God" (or gods). This interpretation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — AahYah "I am". Other scholars regard the triconsonantal root of hawah (הוה) as a more likely origin for the name Yahweh.[/u][/color][/b]
*hope you are understanding the relationship between the name jehovah/yaweh/ YHWH and " I am that I am/ I will be what I will be"

Now let's go back to the dictionaries and look again at the word " Jehovah"

[b]Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Jehovah'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". . 1997.
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [H] [S]
the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [adonai]) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews ( Exodus 6:2 Exodus 6:3 ). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Leviticus 24:16 . The meaning of the word appears from Exodus 3:14 to be "the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God," the "I am that I am," a convenant-keeping God.(Compare Malachi 3:6 ; Hosea 12:5 ; Revelation 1:4 Revelation 1:8 .)


Dictionaries - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [E] [H]
(I am; the eternal living one ). The Scripture appellation of the supreme Being, usually interpreted as signifying self-derived and permanent existence. The Jews scrupulously avoided every mention of this name of God, substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel-points it may happen to be written. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of ( Leviticus 24:16 ) from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offence. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year, by the high priest on the day of atonement when he entered the holy of holies; but on this point there is some doubt. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name which he should give as the credentials of his mission: "And God said unto Moses, "I AM THAT I AM (ehyea asher ehyeh ); and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." That this passage is intended to indicate the etymology of Jehovah, as understood by the Hebrews, no one has ventured to doubt. While Elohim exhibits God displayed in his power as the creator and governor of the physical universe, the name Jehovah designates his nature as he stands in relation to man, as the only almighty, true, personal, holy Being, a spirit and "the father of spirits," ( Numbers 16:22 ) comp. John 4:24 who revealed himself to his people, made a covenant with them, and became their lawgiver, and to whom all honor and worship are due.[/b]

THEREFORE JOHNW74, GOD DID NOT GIVE MOSES TWO NAMES , BUT GAVE MOSES ONE NAME, " I AM THAT I AM" BEING AN ETYMOLOGY OF THAT NAME , THE VERSES SAY:

Ex 3:13But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
Ex 3:14So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’”
Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT GOD SAID " THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER " AND NOT THIS ARE MY NAMES FOREVER".

To support this , look at the song Moses sang with other Israelites who ye told God's name :
Ex 15:2My strength and my might is Jah, since he has become my salvation. This is my God, and I will praise him; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME

ha ha you keep showing that you have no understanding at all oh false accuser



ha ha your confusion is unbelievable.
you are changing the subject again, it's Jehovah means God

and yes I will show you again in my next post to you
simple request, provide the source of your statement.

whenever I say Jehovah means God, you often reply with "Jehovah is the name of God"
now we all know that, so if you were not meaning that Jehovah means the name of God
then why was that your reply oh deceiving one
imagine, so your accusations against me is based on derived understand of what I said, the truth is that I never said so but you choosed to understand it so!, your wrong understand is only possible cus you are quite to omit my comMon reply : "Jehovah does not mean God" .

duh that's what I have been doing and what you don't understand
replying with lies confusion twisting and all means of lying available to you.
if you have you should have seen that the Hebrew word for God is different from the Hebrew word for Jehovah!

It's true false jw, I have never come across a bigger lie lie than you in all of N/forums

what kind of proof do you want me to produce?
just show one instance that I lied with proof

ha ha you only have to go to the top of this post where I showed that you said Jehovah doesn't mean God
and to which you replied: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,

then you lie lie said: pls pls stop lying against me!

you way big false accuser lie lie dolphinheart, just like your god satan


satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36
so what the lie there, at no point did I say " Jehovah does not mean the name of God" , if I ever maDe that statement , pls show where I said it, quote me and tell me the post you quoted.


you lie lie only believe the few words given in the dictionary, that's everything you think
the dictionary doesn't say exactly "Jehovah means God" in it's few words of meaning, so it doesn't, duh

you cannot think for yourself and are taught to believe what your church of satan tells you
you believe what men tell you through the witchpower magazine
you lie, accuse, twist, and do everything that your father satan does, who is a liar and the father of it
you have been taught and learned well your false doctrines, and is why you are confused with truth and why the truth is not in you.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

good that you agreed that the dictionaries did not say " Jehovah means God", those who fomulated false teachings from their minds without recourse to the scriptures as guide are those who thought that Jehovah means God!,

dolphinheart:
before you confuse your self go and look at your post that you posted by 6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post you stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

Now the issue is , did dolphinheart make such statement? The answer is no , johnw74 false accuse dolphinheart of making that statement! he could also not provide where he saw dolphinheart make such statement.
dolphinheart request that such lies should be retracted! good Christians don't make false accusations!

dolphinheart:
It is proven that your accusations are lies, I never said Jehovah means the name of God!, so pls pls stop lying against me!

dolphinheart:
no where have you showN any statement made by anyone but you and your kind that jehovah means God!
GO LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF GOD, IT WILL HELP YOU!
Even the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!

dolphinheart:
continue with your self formulated theory



if everybody knows that jehovah is a name for God and not the numerous examples posted that says jehovah is the name of God. then it should be easy to give us several scolars, dictionaries and bible verses that said so , I've provided several that said " jehovah is the name of God, you've provided non that says " jehovah is a name for God" .

dolphinheart:
Give an example

dolphinheart:
It has been corrected, go see it!

dolphinheart:
you have started altering what the dictionary told you, the dictionary never said the underlined statement above, don't add words pls.

dolphinheart:
Repeating a lie multiple times will not make it true!

dolphinheart:
I wonder how you understand what you wrote, the dictionary also , Imediately after that, in the same sentence says "Jewish national name of God", are you saying jehovah means that too!

dolphinheart:
1. quote the verse and see it expose you.
2. God told you his name directly, not names given to him, what is that name?, you have refused to show us where God says this is my name and the name or names he mentioned.
3. you are confused, being known as almighty God does not mean almighty God is his name, as a king, someone will be know as king, but it does not mean his name Is king!

dolphinheart:
in all my post to you, I keep telling you that jehovah does not mean God. none of the dictionaries ever made that statement, and neither could you provide a dictionary that said so!, it was derived from your wrong understand.

dolphinheart:
Then provide the source of your statement if it's not to alter what has been shown to you that jehovah is the name of God!

dolphinheart:
you and who reached such false agreement ! provide proof pls.

dolphinheart:
GO AND STUDY THE WORD JEHOVAH AND GOD, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BETTER.

dolphinheart:
always making accusations without providING proof

dolphinheart:
show where I have accused you falsely!

dolphinheart:
YOUR LIES ARE GIGANTIC, YOU HAVE JOINED THE CREW OF BIG TIME LIARS!