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Anas09:
@Mizjanet. Who do u dis thing, messed u up real bad.
I pecieve a very bitter, angry, and vindictive persona locked inside of you. People like u end up killing themselves. I hope u don't end like that. You actually pick the Bible to read and pick errors wow. Satan's little helper.

An evil one indeed

another possibility is she was once a believer and fell away
which is just as bad for her.

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

lolu007:
Im a Christian and those words on my profile doesn't speak well of my faith I need it removed

Ask Nobody, he knows how to not have a profile, so he should know how to remove the muslim statement from your signature.
c'mon Nobody help lolu007 out here.

You don't know when your life is wanted off you
you may regret blaspheming the Holy Spirit for Eternity in Everlasting flames

Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.




Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Answer the question in the above post.

MizJanet:
Described in two verses as " itself" , yea .




See the life of a liar

1st statement you said I say Father God is thing .

2nd statement @ UNDERLINED , you changed and said I WOULD say . Just imagine



And to ur question, i base my proves on your bible , is the Father God described as " it" in two verses ? Pls show me those verses

Wait , is he the one addressed as " spirit ITself" at rom 8:16 and rom 8:26 or holyspirit?

You cannot answer a very simple question but twist everything around like those not wanting to be shown up in their lies do.

I ask you again a very simple question:

so as the Father is also a spirit-pneuma, is the Father also a it-a thing?

yes or no, is that to hard for mizjan

How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived?

Christians know through the Holy Spirit in them
it's a knowing that needs no proof.

It's something that supposed jw's and others, that don't know the Holy Spirit is God, cannot have.

The supposed jw's are in bed with the beast-riding the beast

It's on'y fitting that the watchtower society be a member of the U.N.-scarlet beast
their highrachy know who they really are
in any case God knows, and has them where they belong for now
and Christians know too.

lolu007:
Im a Christian and those words on my profile doesn't speak well of my faith I need it removed

If you are logged in to Nairaland, at the top of the page next to your username, it says Edit Profile,
click or double click on that, and you should be able to change your signature on the page that comes up.

unless the signature has been permanently applied because you ticked the you are a muslim box.

OLAADEGBU:
But Muhammad the founder of Islam learnt from the Roman Catholics that Mary is one of the Godhead and hence honour her as the mother of God.

muhammad didn't learn much, did he

It's impossible to show truth to a slowpoke.



Some couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it
and your Eternal life does depend on being truthful.

Who is that liar and false accuser:

MizJanet:

Buhahaha , the KJV is now a condemned translation since it doesnt favour you . Lols

you and those translations you mentioned are the liars ,.

Its good that you guys are condemning your own bible .

indeed there is no truth in you

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MizJanet:
bae , your bible confirm your god the holyspirit is an "it" Romans 8:16 and 8:26




spirit " ITself" Rom 8:16

mizjan said spirit-pneuma is a thing, she said the Holy Spirit is a thing because pneuma is neuter and described in two verses as "itself"

so as the Father God is also a spirit-pneuma, mizjan would say the Father God is a it, a thing.

but can she admit it yet, or ever?
does she have any understanding at all?
is she a complete dummy?

MizJanet:
see the life of a liar , the moment I see your comment above , I feel like giving you a hot E-slap. The comment you quote was in response to your claim that himself was used by some bible versions at Rom 8:16 . Its channelled at Romans 8:16

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you said : " you also say Father God is not " He", but you say Father God is a "thing"


Then show me where I said it ?

You know that you said spirit-pneuma is a it-a thing, and so you said the Holy Spirit is a it-a thing,
now as The Father God is also a spirit-pneuma, then by your own reasoning you would say the Father is a it-a thing

You cannot admit you are wrong and so you try to worm your way out of it, but only another slowpoke like yourself would fall for your lies.

You say the Holy Spirit is a it-a thing, because the Holy Spirit is a spirit-pneuma,
so as the Father is also a spirit-pneuma, is the Father also a it-a thing?

seeing as you like to twist things around because you haven't the courage to be honest, then answer that simple question @bold, a yes or no will do.

MizJanet:

Buhahaha , the KJV is now a condemned translation since it doesnt favour you . Lols you and those translations you mentioned are the liars ,. Its good that you guys are condemning your own bible .


Another disgrace to your scholars :

Since the greek word " pneuma" translated spirit is NEUTER , is it gramatically proper to attach a masculine pronoun "HIMself" to somethin NEUTER ? PURE GRAMATICAL BLUNDER and a disgrace to you and your scholars , indeed there is no truth in you

@bold, You are wrong, the KJV and some other Bible versions are not condemmed because off mans few mistakes,
God doesn't make mistakes, man always will.

MizJanet:

Thank you very much for identifying youself as liar , for this thread, Kindly Point where I said the underlined ?

@bold, yea sure no problem

MizJanet:

Buhahaha , the KJV is now a condemned translation since it doesnt favour you . Lols you and those translations you mentioned are the liars ,. Its good that you guys are condemning your own bible .


Another disgrace to your scholars :

Since the greek word " pneuma" translated spirit is NEUTER , is it gramatically proper to attach a masculine pronoun "HIMself" to somethin NEUTER ? PURE GRAMATICAL BLUNDER and a disgrace to you and your scholars , indeed there is no truth in you

@bold, You say spirit(pneuma) is "neuter" and so not "Him"
and that's why you say the Holy Spirit is "a thing" and not a "Him"
The Father God is also a Spirit, so by your own definition you say the Father God is "a thing" and not a "Him"

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit(pneuma): and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

"a god" did not create anything:

Jer 10:10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
Jer 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.

As the Word Jesus Christ is not going to perish, shows He is not "a god"
But of course Christians know that.

MizJanet:

Buhahaha , the KJV is now a condemned translation since it doesnt favour you . Lols you and those translations you mentioned are the liars ,. Its good that you guys are condemning your own bible .

The KJV is not a condemned translation at all, even if it has some errors, but you cannot help but lie, as I have already told you.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Another disgrace to your scholars :

Since the greek word " pneuma" translated spirit is NEUTER , is it gramatically proper to attach a masculine pronoun "HIMself" to somethin NEUTER ? PURE GRAMATICAL BLUNDER and a disgrace to you and your scholars , indeed there is no truth in you

God the Father, Almighty God Himself, is a Spirit(pneuma), and so like you say off the Holy Spirit, you also say Father God is not "He", but you say Father God is a "thing".
But of course you don't know anything at all of the truth, and how could you, when you believe that the Holy Spirit and the Father God is a thing.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit(pneuma): and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


Angels are Spirits also, you would say they are things, but like God they are living beings.

MizJanet:
your comment shows that you were not there when your english teacher taught you personification

Abi na janet write "itself" inside those verses

Most Bibles translate those two verses as himself, but you being off the devil, of course search for a wrong translation of the verses.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MizJanet:
not just once , twice called " ITself" rom 8:16 and rom 8:26 ...

You say "a thing" intercedes to the Father on behalf of Christians

You are alone on that.

MizJanet: What rubish are u blabbing ?
The christian god the holyspirit is a person , yet your god is denote with " It" , am sure u didnt do english at school , if you do you will know " ITSELF" is used for a thing .

annyplenty:
’’TELL MY CHILDREN NOT TO WORK ON SUNDAYS”
In the early hours of Saturday, 18th July, 2015, Nigerian time, I heard, in a dream, a Voice say to me ‘tell My Children not to work on Sundays’.

God wouldn't tell a person in a dream not to work on Sundays. For those who wan't to keep the commandments, God told us not to work on the seventh day of the week, and he would not change that now to say don't work on the first day of the week.

annyplenty also said to go in the rapture retribution is compulsory.
It's good to say Jesus is coming soon as we are told to watch and expect him, but it's bad to add untruths to that.

Exo_20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo_20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

And we are not saved through paying retribution but by Grace from God through faith which is also from God,
we can do nothing to go in the rapture, and we cannot do anything to be saved, our works won't save us or have us go in the rapture, God does it all.

Your paying retribution along with all your other works are like filthy rags to God.
We do what the Holy Spirit leads us to do, whether it be to pay retribution or not. Retribution is not compulsory unless God leads you too pay back someone, He will let you know by keeping it on your mind.
God doesn't make it hard for people to be saved, as some people would like to make it.

Etfash:
If the Holy Spirit intimates you about the need to keep a certain day of the week special, well that is great, but i would have advised that such be kept personal and obeyed as such. This is to avoid making the simple message of salvation appear complex...

I don't agree with that though, God is the same today and forever,
He won't be changing the Sabbath from the seventh day to the first.

Why would God intimate a person to keep a certain day other than His seventh day Sabbath,
the day that He already told us to keep.

I suspect that annyplenty's familiar voice was not God's,
but at best his own thoughts in his dream.

dolphinheart:
Exerpts from a website.:
........
1808 “and the Word was A
god” - Thomas Belsham The New Testament, in An
Improved Version, Upon the
Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation:
With a Corrected Text , London.......

1864 “and a god was the
Word” (left hand column
interlinear reading) The
Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin
Wilson, New York and London......

1867 “In the beginning was
the gospel preached through
the Son. And the gospel was
the word, and the word was
with the Son, and the Son was
with God, and the Son was of
God” - The Joseph Smith
Translation of the Bible......

1935 “and the Word was
divine” - The Bible—An
American Translation, by John
M. P. Smith and Edgar J.
Goodspeed, Chicago......

1955 “so the Word was
divine” - The Authentic New
Testament, by Hugh J.
Schonfield, Aberdeen.......

1978 “and godlike sort was the Logos” - Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider, Berlin......

1822 "and the Word was a
god." - The New Testament in Greek and English (A.
Kneeland, 1822.);.......

1863 "and the Word was a
god." - A Literal Translation Of The New Testament (Herman Heinfetter [Pseudonym of Frederick Parker], 1863);.......

1885 "and the Word was a
god." - Concise Commentary On The Holy Bible ( R. Young, 1885);......

1879 "and the Word was a
god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (J. Becker, 1979);......

1911 "and the Word was a
god." - The Coptic Version of the N.T. (G. W. Horner, 1911); .......

1958 "and the Word was a
god." - The New Testament of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus
Anointed" (J. L. Tomanec, 1958);.....

1829 "and the Word was a
god." - The Monotessaron; or, The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists (J. S. Thompson, 1829);......

1975 "and the Word was a
god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (S. Schulz, 1975);......

1975 "and a god (or, of a
divine kind) was the Word" Das Evangelium nach Johnnes, by Siegfried Schulz, Göttingen, Germany........

For a complete list of 70 non
traditional translations of John
1:1 see this reference..........

Some scholars staunchly
oppose the translation ...a god,
while other scholars believe it is possible or even preferable.

Coptic scholar George Horner
renders the Sahidic Coptic of
John 1:1c as "and [a] God was the word," while his apparatus mentions, "Square brackets imply words used by the Coptic and not required by the English".

You can search for all the wrongly translated verses of John 1:1 that you want to, to suit your satanic teaching that the Word is not God.
I agree with the translations that correctly say the Word was God.

johnw74:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God[theos], and the Word was God(theos).
The Greek for "God", and "the Word" in that verse that the English word comes from is "theos"
John would not have used the same word "theos" for God and the Word in that short sentence, if the word "theos" had a diffrent meaning in one of the two instances, he would have used a diffrent word.
John used "theos"-God for God, and he used "theos"-God for the Word.
jw change one of them to "a god" to agree with their satanic teaching that "the Word" is not God.

I agree we are saved by grace through God given faith,
not by keeping commandments.

We do try to keep His 10 commandments though,
is that right Etfash?

We are instructed to keep the commandments,
I'm not sure if that means the 10 commandments or
the things Jesus told us .

annyplenty:
’’TELL MY CHILDREN NOT TO WORK ON SUNDAYS”

In the early hours of Saturday, 18th July, 2015, Nigerian time, I heard, in a dream, a Voice say to me ‘tell My Children not to work on Sundays’. ....




.... And some few days after meeting with that minster, this familiar Voice came to me in my dream and said ‘tell my children not work on Sundays’. ....

Lev_19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

.... I am of the opinions that if you find yourself yet to decide on which day you want to observe as the Sabbath day, please, pray and ask the Lord for His Will concerning the matter. But I believe Sunday is His perfect Will. So, do not work on Sundays. If you think otherwise, seek God in prayer, if you can observe any other day as Sabbath.....

Just keep the seventh day as God said.
The seventh day of the week has always been the weekly Sabbath day, not the first day of the week.
But the rcc and others think that they can change what God directed, and choose themselves what day they want to be the Sabbath day.

When we look at history, we find that Sunday is a pagan holiday in honor of the sun.
Saturday also may have been named after Saturn, but let's just do what God say's and not make up our own laws in opposition to God.

MizJanet:
What rubish are u blabbing ?
The christian god the holyspirit is a person , yet your god is denote with " It" , am sure u didnt do english at school , if you do you will know " ITSELF" is used for a thing .

the Holy Spirit is called He many times throughout the Bible,
you find a verse that say's itself, and that's all you can see.

so a "thing" maketh intercession for us with groanings which can not be uttered, yeah sure, not.

Jozzy4:
Of cos , no wonder the word /Jesus/ cannot be anything other than Gods own spirit /holyspirit/ , jesus is the holyspirit

The Father is Spirit, so you say the Father is the Holy Spirit too,
you say the Word and the Father is the Holy Spirit.


Those who think the Holy Spirit is just a power can never know Him.

1Co_2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1Co_2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Jozzy4:
Okay , but what is Gods own spirit ? Holyspirit .
The word ? Jesus .




" the word can not be anything other than God's own spirit "

Those who think the Holy Spirit is just a power can never know.

1Co_2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1Co_2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

johnw74: the word can not be anything other than God's own Spirit,

Jozzy4:
At underlined , Jesus is now the holyspirit

The clueless one puts his foot in it again,
the Father is also Spirit - God is spirit.

Jozzy4:
Agree with you ? I agreed with rev 3:14 that said Jesus is " the beginning of the creation By God " which is exactly what you are expressing with that statement , but yet you didnt know you have said it .

You keep showing that you don't have a clue,
as the word came forth from God, the word can not be anything other than God's own Spirit,
and God was not created.
If you want understanding on 3:14 then ask someone else,
you know I don't waste much time on supposed jw and their followers or other non believers and anti Christs.

2Co 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers; for what fellowship does righteousness have with lawlessness? And what partnership does light have with darkness?

Jozzy4:
Oga , the point is clear lol . God brought forth jesus from himself . - read rev 3:14


more , tell us how Jesus was begotten ?

I don't answer supposed jw or their followers questions as they are not and never will be my teachers.
But again I'm suprised you agree with me that "God brought forth the Word from himself"
and I see you don't understand it.

Jozzy4:
GBAM!

Glad you agree with me, but you being a supposed jw follower,
I'm sure you must be confused.

Jozzy4:
Man and bird beget through sexual intercourse , how did God beget ?

OLAADEGBU:
Good question.

God can do things by Himself, He doesn't need anyone or anything,
He doesn't need a woman or Heavenly being to bring forth the Word


Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

God bought the Word forth from Himself, the one and only begotten of God.



Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;


Gen_1:26 And God said, Let [size=14pt]us[/size] make man in [size=14pt]our[/size] image, after [size=14pt]our[/size] likeness: ....
Gen_11:7 Go to, let [size=14pt]us[/size] go down, and there confound their language, ....

dolphinheart:
Jesus is a god,

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God[theos], and the Word was God(theos).
The Greek for "God", and "the Word" in that verse that the English word comes from is "theos"
John would not have used the same word "theos" for God and the Word in that short sentence, if the word "theos" had a diffrent meaning in one of the two instances, he would have used a diffrent word.
John used "theos"-God for God, and he used "theos"-God for the Word.
jw change one of them to "a god" to agree with their satanic teaching that "the Word" is not God.