Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:26pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
dolphinheart: Do you support his quotes on 1Tim 3:16 and john 5:7 ? confusion always with you I did ask him some questions on the scriptures he quoted, but he refuses to answer. Maybe ill ask you to help me ask him if you are interested. when i discuss truth i don't discuss with those who call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses, but are not, and do lie, and are the church of satan. |
Christianity Etc › Re: End-time Bible Teaching: Preparing For Rapture, Part 5, (RESTITUTION) by johnw74: 1:11am On Oct 25, 2015 |
^^^ Yes the Bible tells us we are saved by grace through faith
Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
pay restitution where possible, if not possible don't worry on it you are saved through your God given faith-belief.
Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
in other words some try to make it hard for people to be saved restitution is a good thing if you are able, if you are not able, but was willing, come in anyway in any case don't be worried about the things you cannot do. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:21pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
God the Word-the Lord Jesus Christ, created everything that was created
Joh 1:1 ....and the Word was God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. God is the creator
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[size=14pt]An Angel has never created anything[/size] |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:19pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff does not believe the Bible, and teaches the opposite off it.MuttleyLaff: Yes, He, God the Father has called an Angel ''His Son''
Yes, He, God the Father, has/had said to an Angel ''sit at my right hand'' Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the Angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Muttleylaff does teach the opposite to the Bible. His quote opposing Bible verses, and in fact saying the exact opposite to the Bible verses, has been posted many times, and he still cannot admit it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:27pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
johnw74: and you accuse me of what you are doing, squirming away from it who is that liar and accuser that you take after Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:12pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: Let God and posterity be the judge of whether or not I believe the bible and preach the opposite to it
You're becoming like a broken record, instead of answering the question, you're unnecessarily repeating yourself
All these efforts of yours to squirm out of responding to the question is useless so just answer the question asked earlier above about who is the Angel of the Lord then as previously said, I too will give you something scripture(s) to really ponder on or writhe at how you think i would want to have a discussion with you with all your bad mouthing is amazing you said the opposite to scripture and you have been avoiding it since, and you accuse me of what you are doing, squirming away from it MuttleyLaff: Yes, He, God the Father has called an Angel ''His Son''
Yes, He, God the Father, has/had said to an Angel ''sit at my right hand'' Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:35pm On Oct 22, 2015*. Modified: 11:54pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: SMH. Wow take some deep breaths. Try having a chill pill because this your remark doesnt apply to the likes of moi who 110% believes the Bible and isnt afraid to say the Bible exactly as it is @ bold and red and underlined, you can obviously fool yourself, and your fellow non believers but you cannot fool Christians you don't believe the bible and you preach the opposite to it: MuttleyLaff: Yes, He, God the Father has called an Angel ''His Son''
Yes, He, God the Father, has/had said to an Angel ''sit at my right hand'' Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? |
Jokes Etc › Re: Blonde Physical Education Teacher by johnw74(op): 12:36am On Oct 22, 2015 |
On a bitterly cold winter morning a husband and wife in Dublin were listening to the radio during breakfast.
They heard the announcer say, "We are going to have 8 to 10 inches of snow today. You must park your car on the even-numbered side of the street, so the Snowplough can get through." So the good wife went out and moved her car.
A week later while they are eating breakfast again, the radio announcer said, "We are expecting 10 to 12 inches of snow today. You must park your car on the odd-numbered side of the street, so the snowplough can get through." The good wife went out and moved her car again.
The next week they are again having breakfast, when the radio announcer says, "We are expecting 12 to 14 inches of snow today. You must park...." Then the electric power went out.
The good wife was very upset, and with a worried look on her face she said, "I don't know what to do. Which side of the street do I need to park on so the snowplough can get through?"
Then with the love and understanding in his voice that all men who are married to blondes exhibit, the husband replied........
"Why don't you just leave it in the garage this time?" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 12:10am On Oct 22, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: I call you bro, as we are on the same train going on journey to a common destination, The obvious fact and truth is, you just are few carriages behind that's all... No delusions i can assure you once again, that i am not on the same journey and destination as those who don't believe the Bible, and teach the opposite to it. MuttleyLaff: Yes, He, God the Father has called an Angel ''His Son''
Yes, He, God the Father, has/had said to an Angel ''sit at my right hand'' Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:53pm On Oct 21, 2015 |
Boomark: Bros I saw your replies. 
This Jehovah witness johnw74 don give you plenty plenty names. Na wa o. "Jehovah witness johnw74", oh boy legion are completely deluded, ....of course |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 9:49am On Oct 21, 2015*. Modified: 11:18pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff does not believe the Bible, and teaches the opposite off it.MuttleyLaff: Yes, He, God the Father has called an Angel ''His Son''
Yes, He, God the Father, has/had said to an Angel ''sit at my right hand'' Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the Angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Muttleylaff does teach the opposite to the Bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 9:18am On Oct 21, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: Except for your kindegarten and delusional twisted truths, you dont have any truths bro
You are Far-Away-To-See
You would know, wouldnt you and yet you adressed two more posts to me after this one take your demonic lies and insults with you legion "legion" that's what your allies from anomymous call themselves you and jw are led by the same demons-legion is why you support one another demon, i am definitely not your bro, you must be deluded |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Hung In A Tree - Not A Cross! by johnw74: 12:02am On Oct 21, 2015 |
^^^
True |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:54pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
those legion that hate the truth(like what is in the last 2 posts), falsely accuse others of hating the truth Jessicha: Bernimoore , Truthislight , Jman05 And Dolphinheart ... I like the way you calmly dealt with all this Haters of truth those who are called Jehovahs Witnesses, but are not, and do lie, are the church of satan Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:48pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Thread Title:
Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? [size=14pt]Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel[/size]
Jesus Christ was not an Angel:
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the Angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Father God has never called an Angel "His Son".
Father God has never said to an Angel "sit at my right hand" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:46pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Thread title:
Re: [size=14pt]Was Satan By Default An Angel?[/size] Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel
satan was an angel:
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:11pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
truthislight: You ^ are trolling this thread, you deserved to be reported cause you are derailing the thread I hope the OP does something about it.
You have become a nuisance. @bold, to those that hate the truth |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 12:07am On Oct 20, 2015*. Modified: 6:17am On Oct 20, 2015 |
Jessicha: Bernimoore , Truthislight , Jman05 And Dolphinheart ... I like the way you calmly dealt with all this Haters of truth calmly you say: truthislight: Lol ^^^^^^. laughing in 10 languages. 
lol . Hahahahahaha, Hohohohoho.Huhuhuhuhuh. Kikikikikiki. Hehehehe he. I no fit laugh Again o 
 JMAN05: Phony are u ready for discussion or u will soon revert to default reply?
And what make me laugh at empty heads like u cos u think that kjv translated what John wrote in revelation word for word. Now did KJV add?
Just shmh for u. truthislight: Though you came here to lie against Yahweh. that's just a few of the much rot that jw spoke here they calmly spoke you say, see how when you jw speak a lie you are speaking naturally Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. not calmly at all, if the truth mattered you would have said insanely, abusively, angrily, lyingly and accusingly  and straight out evil, the last one |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:33pm On Oct 19, 2015*. Modified: 12:18am On Oct 20, 2015 |
Jessicha: Bernimoore , Truthislight , Jman05 And Dolphinheart ... I like the way you calmly dealt with all this Haters of truth you are legion, Jessicha, Bernimoore , Truthislight , Jman05, Dolphinheart and many many others Mar 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. Luk 8:30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev_12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Those who call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses, but are not, and do lie, are the church of satan Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:36am On Oct 19, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: You're not one, but are two Pharisee truthislight: Pleaseeeee! spare me! stop stealing my truths and turning them into lies, you know that you are the pharacee hypercrites demons without tether flock together |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 1:05am On Oct 19, 2015 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 12:24am On Oct 19, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: https://i57.tinypic.com/34sp9j4.gif Boo! Scaredy-Cat what a girlie, you wouldn't say Boo to anyone face to face, you would run i have learned that all big mouths are yella You cant handle the truth bro You have a strong dislike of hearing the truth and a strong opposition to the truth because you don't want your illusions destroyed well of course you have joined the chorus of demons in saying that but it's impossible for those, like demons, that gather together, to be anything other than false accusers The fact is truth will set you free, but first, will get you pissed off on hearing it, just like you right now, are pissed off. you sound and look like a demon, don't you
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Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 12:14am On Oct 19, 2015 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 12:08am On Oct 19, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: my coded post (A#1)
i coded my replies post (A#1) i see your coded (A#1)and i raise you a coded (B#2)what a slowpoke |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:34pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: lets leave the guy out before he attacks you so that we can have a meaningful discussion, He is reduced to one Dimensional  bad spirited berni, going even to others posts to flame i believe theres plenty of flames waiting for you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:30pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: johnw74 knows what he is doing, the jw name calling is a cunning plan designed to turn the state of affairs to his own advantage
Every time jw is typed, regardless of you saying you arent jw, it's used to try to drown you out or done to try and emasculate you
Is the bold meant to be a past tense (i.e. ''was'') or present tense (i.e. ''is'')? demons gather together, and of course say anything except truth that is |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 11:22pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
JMAN05: Phony are u ready for discussion or u will soon revert to default reply?
And what make me laugh at empty heads like u cos u think that kjv translated what John wrote in revelation word for word. Now did KJV add?
Just shmh for u. oh duh ano, I certinally wouldn't be talking with you, would i demons gather together |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 2:18pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
@berniemoore jw johnw74: Thread Title:
Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? [size=14pt]Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel[/size]
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the Angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Father God has never called an Angel "His Son".
Father God has never said to an Angel "sit at my right hand" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 1:51pm On Oct 18, 2015*. Modified: 2:14pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
johnw74: Thread Title:
Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? [size=14pt]Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel[/size]
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:13 But to which of the Angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Father God has never called an Angel "His Son".
Father God has never said to an Angel "sit at my right hand" truthislight replied to that post: truthislight: See you blundering out of ignorance below on red:
johnw74: Father God has never called an Angel "His Son". The above is a misrepresentation of Yahweh and a lie, it is also an error against the Bible.
Though you came here to lie against Yahweh.
So, again I say, STOP LYING!
Peace. so according to truthislight, because i said "Father God has never called an Angel "His Son". then i have come here to lie against Yahweh however i said what the verse said: Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? johnw74: I know you don't believe the bible and you keep showing that to be true over and over again
The sentence you went satanic over vvv Father God has never called an Angel "His Son".
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
and again you don't believe that verse you don't believe the Bible
Angels are called sons of God because God the Word created the Angels Father God has never called an angel "my Son" as the verse above which is true tells
other verses show also that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, father God calls Jesus "my Son" but never did to an Angel ,as the verse above shows, which you don't believe Then this is truthislight next reply to the fact that Father God never called an Angel "my Son" truthislight: Lol.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 1:48pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: Thats the effect of getting yourself annoyed unduly, i dont know your age but you still behave like someone not matured to handle issues in a matured way.
where did i post to you? is it on this thread? i think you should go back to page 0, you were the very first person to quote my p[ost and comment.
which scripture? the scripture you posted did not prove anything, i have treated it in my coded post (A#1) you were afraid to show further proofs when the ones you relied on in the passage failed to adress the issue
here was my reply because it seems you want us to go round the tables thats why i coded my replies post (A#1)
below are all the contents of bible verses that you quoted which all failed to call satan an angel!
Ezekiel 28:13,14 and 15
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Ephesians 3:9King James Version (KJV)
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Psalm 99:1King James Version (KJV)
The Lord reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved.
Isaiah 14:13King James Version (KJV)
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north
Revelation 12:3,4,7-9 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
your reply Fail to address (A)in the very Topic, that is; lets see the scriptures you quoted in your juxtapose,
a, Ezekiel 28:13, 15 b, Ezekiel 28:14 c, Ephesians 3:9 d, Psalms 99:1 e, Isaiah 14:13, 14. f, John 8:44
g, Revelation 12:3,4 h Revelation 12:7-9
a-f .....did not mention that Lucifer was Satan while; 'g' and 'H' ...did not Mention lucifer at all among names that satan was called in 'h' neither was satan called an angel in the passage so your proof lacks the substance that is.... to prove where the bible/sacred scriptures DIRECTLY says that satan is/was an angel @red, you lie as much as any jw here and you sound just like them |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 1:36pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: did the bible says that satan was a cherub? show me word for word did the bible say that satan was an angel word for word show me. why dont you answer him instead of avoiding like jw does and asking other questions |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by johnw74: 1:02pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: yet they get irritated when you prove your own convinction. thats just the case of one john74 on this thread who never knew me from adam and yet not interested in my topic yet calling me names its funny anyway because since he has got no proof tangible i dont think i will have his time. lies like jw and just like bad spirited jw, he cannot help stirring even in others posts. |