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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 6:46am On Sep 04, 2015

lexiconkabir:
ok, even if the proof is glary, cant you read the bible for once the way it is? not the way you were thought. you said its a no point discussing with me, you can atleast prove me wrong.

No one could prove anything to someone who thinks Hebrews 1:6 is about Adam.
And I usually don't waste time answering confusion:

lexiconkabir:
well, since you are the type that are among "well i believe in it anyway, it cant be false", then its ok.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Was WITH God by johnw74: 3:42am On Sep 04, 2015*

Jozzy4:
Hmm so it was God the Father that came down to earth , pls who is God the Father praying to ? .. Another God ? Or is he just pretending to pray in other to deceive the masses ?

It was God the Word who became flesh, He is the image of the Father

So God died ?

God's flesh body died, yes. His eternal Spirit of course never died.

Stop calling an absurdity a mystery .

joz calls "God was manifest in the flesh", an absurdity

1Ti_3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 1:42am On Sep 04, 2015

Emusan, it's useless discussing with lex, when it's so obvious that it's the Father talking of the son Jesus christ in Hebrew 1:8 and he cannot see it, that just shows what mixing the Bible with the koran will do.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

The Father is the God of the Son-Jesus Christ (verse 9)
The Son is God (verse eight)
The Father and the Son are the one God
only Christians with the Holy spirit can understand this
Because non believers have been blinded and have no understanding of the truth, they don't believe, and change what the scriptures say

lexiconkabir:
@Emusan, since you refused to complete the verse in order not to nail yourself, i will complete it myself to prove my point. heb1:8(NIV) "But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom." now do you still think God was talking to jesus? is God calling jesus "O God"? pls tell me if i'm just bringing islamic teachings here!

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 1:15am On Sep 04, 2015*

Jozzy4:
Nope ! That will contradict 1 cor 8:6 for us there is one God , THE FATHER . ONLY THE FATHER .

@bold, why does joz only post that part:
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
The whole verse is another verse that shows Jesus Christ along with the Father is God.

But we are also one in the same sense ! John 17:22 , Does it mean we are Almighty God and a part of trinity too?

Dumb, no understanding.

Check the numbers ! Just admit you serve TWO Gods .

You don't understand how the Father and the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is needed,
it's you who say the Father and the Son is two God's
Mar_12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Thats why God prayed to the other God the Father . And when God 1 died , the other God didnt die .

Has anyone in this place less understanding than this one

We are also one In The same sense (john 17:22)

twisting, playing with the scriptures, it's all you do

Since It was God that was manifested in the FLESH , do you now admit Mary is the mother of God ?

I explained it very well, but you are not serious, truth is foreign to you, you cannot possibly understand

Spurious Text .

believer of jw says scripture is not true:

johnw74: 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:44am On Sep 04, 2015

Jozzy4:
Nope ! That will contradict 1 cor 8:6 for us there is one God , THE FATHER . ONLY THE FATHER .

But we are also one in the same sense ! John 17:22 , Does it mean we are Almighty God and a part of trinity too?

Check the numbers ! Just admit you serve TWO Gods .

Thats why God prayed to the other God the Father . And when God 1 died , the other God didnt die .

We are also one In The same sense (john 17:22)

Since It was God that was manifested in the FLESH , do you now admit Mary is the mother of God ?

Spurious Text .

You don't understand anything at all,
you reject all the scriptures I post,
and what you say yourself is confused.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Blinded and lost by their own choice of rejecting the truth.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:40am On Sep 04, 2015

lexiconkabir:
you are yet to show me how that verse refers to jesus, some translation uses firstborn, please who was the firstborn on earth and pls address heb1:9. where that son was told "therefore God, your God has placed you above your companions ...."

There is no point discussing with someone who thinks Hebrews 1:6 is talking about Adam.
I'm not interisted in discussing the Bible in comparison with the koran either.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 11:44am On Sep 03, 2015

Jozzy4:
He is not a JW , your thinking faculty has been conditioned to view everyone that disagree with you as Jw , you need h.elp .

I was going to say "now don't be bad spirited", and then I remembered

lex struck out one scripture for another so it was understandable of me to mistake him for jw

as to the below, you don't believe the two scriptures posted, that's why I also mistook you for jw
you are more jw than Christian, that's for sure,

That mean we are also equal with God , Philipian 2:5 said we sud keep that same mind thats in Christ Jesus

The jews are wrong . Use your thinking faculty , " the Father Is GREATER than I" Joh 14:28

Thank God, he didnt say I and my Father are ONE GOD.

Duh, that's what the verse means

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word Jesus is God, Father is God, I and my Father are one

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost is one, one what? one Spirit, one God

jw cannot possibly understand it, oh that's right you are not jw, It's understandable that I keep forgetting that.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 10:59am On Sep 03, 2015

lexiconkabir:
That verse wasnt talking about jesus(being this son), the firstbegotten here means the first person to be created and was put unto the earth! and who is that? Adam! God ordered all the angels to bow down(worship to you) for Adam. now according to the quran, satan refused to bow down for Adam, because Adam was made from dust and he(satan) was made from the flame of fire viz satan was arrogant(the bible never talked on how satan disobeyed God), this was why satan was accursed(thats BTW). Lets remember that Adam was also called son of God in the bible(see luke3:38). if you look at heb1:9(NIV) God is refering to this "son" saying "therefore God, YOUR God, has set you above your companions..." if you believe this verse is talking about jesus your "GOD", will God refer to him(jesus) as being his(jesus) God? let me see your view about this.

@ red, Hebrews 1:6 is talking of Jesus Christ, that is clear. Adam was not begotten of God, God made him from the dust of the ground.

Jesus Christ being begotten means He is from God, part of God. He is the only begotten of God.
the Father and the Son is God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 10:24am On Sep 03, 2015*

Maamin:
i understand the scripture perfectly well

Yet you don't believe them, you jw aren't u
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

...we are also in the form of God i.e (image of God), does that makes us equal with God also? NO!

Scripture doesn't say we are equal with God, but scripture does say that Jesus Christ thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
and equal is the correct word there

Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father,
making himself equal with God.

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

yet the scripture can not be broken, is high time we quit making the scripture interpret our own desire.

Yes it's high time jw do that

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 2:51am On Sep 03, 2015

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

The LORD possessed the Word before His works of old, if the Lord had created the Word then that would have been a work, but the LORD possesses the Word before His works of old.

John 1:1 is a second witness to possessed being the right word in Proverbs 8:22,
Joh 1:1 ....the Word was with God,
the Word was with God, (not, the Word was created by God.)

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me
Joh 1:1 ....the Word was with God

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 2:23am On Sep 03, 2015*

Maamin:
"THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I" - Jesus Christ A.D 33

Yet Jesus Christ considered Himself equal with the Father, because along with the Father He is God.

Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The scriptures are true, believe them,
if you use scripture against scripture, (strike out one and believe the other) it's because you don't know or understand the scriptures.

Maamin: 9:6 [s]which placed Him in Equality with the Father.[/s]

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 2:11am On Sep 03, 2015

JMANO5: If u are so sure of ur stand, let's discuss this with open mind. I assure u, u are going to meet a surprise.

dolphinheart: For the benefit of others who seek the truth, can you provide answers to the question if you know it?

One who is assured of the truth Ib his words will be ready to discuss his beliefs always. You believe in something, then let's discuss it here, no fighting, no abusive speech, so that I, you and others on these thread will get a better understanding of the truth.

If its ok by you , can we start with 1 Timothy 3:16 ? One of the bible verses you quoted.

jw are completely unable to accept the truth, scriptures, and what people say

johnw74: Stop puffing yourself up, you know I have nothing to discuss with non believers,

Discussing scripture with jw who change what the scriptures say, would be for me, like discussing scriptures with the devil.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:29am On Sep 03, 2015

Q. what do Elephant's do when they see jw coming

A. RUN

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:28am On Sep 03, 2015

paulGrundy:
Jehovahs witnesses claim that worship of Jesus is idolatry!

"Trinitarians who believe that Jesus is God, or at least the second person of the triune God, do not like to have Jehovah's witnesses say that it is unscriptural for worshipers of the living and true God to render worship to the Son of God, Jesus Christ" Watchtower 1964 Nov 1 p.671

"Reverent adoration should be expressed only to God. To render worship to anyone or anything else would be a form of idolatry, which is condemned in both the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures. Accordingly, true Christians do well to direct their worship only to Jehovah God, the Almighty." Awake! 2000 Apr 8 pp.26,27

jw wouldn't know the diffrence between a letter box and an Elephant's behind

don't send them to post your letters.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 4:50am On Sep 02, 2015

Not only do scriptures say that Jesus Christ is to be worshiped, which jw does not believe, and try and belittle Jesus saying such things as:

(1) does Jesus have a God?
(2) was Jesus sent ?
(3) who sent Jesus ?
(4) who do you think is superior , Jesus or the one who sent him .
(5) is Jesus the father?
(6) if you think Jesus is not the father, who do you think deserves our worship , Jesus , the father or both ?
(7 ) is Christ under subjection to anybody ?
(cool if you are in subjection to another, is that person not superior to you ?

In their warped thinking they think these questions show that Jesus Christ is not to be worshiped.

Even without any scriptures saying so, Christians know that Jesus Christ-God is to be worshiped

Jesus Christ is God and God is to be worshiped:

John said "the Word was God": Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Timothy said "Jesus is God": 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Jesus shows "He is God" along with the Father: Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Lord in that verse is "kurios" meaning God, "God our God is one God", God is one God, the Father and I are one

Thomas called Jesus "God": John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

David called Jesus Christ "God": Psa 45:6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

Isaiah said "God is with us": Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Immanuel means: "with us is God".

Matthew said "God is with us": Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus Christ is "equal to God", that is:- the Word was with God, the Word was God:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Titus called our saviour Jesus Christ, "the Great God": Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Father God calls Jesus Christ "God" Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of

John shows "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit to be God": 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Mar_12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Jesus Christ-God certainly is worshiped by believers-Christians, and of course
He is not worshiped by antichrists, unbelievers, sects, false religion.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 4:32am On Sep 02, 2015

JMAN05:
No doubt you are very sure u are correct, and am very sure am correct as well. Dont you think it best now for us to see what each of us has to say, maybe we can discover what the scripture teach together?

Let's hear each other out.

Discussing scripture with jw who change what the scriptures say, would be for me, like discussing scriptures with the devil.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 4:29am On Sep 02, 2015

JMAN05:
Let me give u another chance.

Do you want us to discuss this issue of worship extensively to see what the scripture has to say, with a calm tone devoid of insults?

Stop puffing yourself up, you know I have nothing to discuss with non believers,
you don't believe the scriptures I posted showing Jesus is to be worshipped.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Was WITH God by johnw74: 1:04am On Sep 02, 2015

Jesus Christ is God:

John said "the Word was God": Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Timothy said "Jesus is God": 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Jesus shows "He is God" along with the Father: Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Lord in that verse is "kurios" meaning God, "God our God is one God", God is one God, the Father and I are one

Thomas called Jesus "God": John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

David called Jesus Christ "God": Psa 45:6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

Isaiah said "God is with us": Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Immanuel means: "with us is God".

Matthew said "God is with us": Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus Christ is "equal to God", that is:- the Word was with God, the Word was God:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Titus called our saviour Jesus Christ, "the Great God": Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Father God calls Jesus Christ "God" Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of

John shows "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit to be God": 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Mar_12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 11:54pm On Sep 01, 2015*

dolphinheart:
To everyone.

If anyone teaches you about jesus and worship and can't /refuses/ sidesteps the questions above, just kindly remind him that he should provide answers!

should provide you answers, why?
jw asks questions thinking he is a teacher,
I don't get into discussions with jw who know little, and rejects the scriptures given, they know that,
but truth is difficult for them.
Jesus Christ is to be worshiped is Biblical, but you reject the scriptures, asking questions to try and sidestep them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 6:28am On Sep 01, 2015

^^^

worship
G4352

προσκυνέω
proskuneō
pros-koo-neh'-o
From G4314 and probably a derivative of G2965 (meaning to kiss); to fawn or crouch to, that is, (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore): - worship.
Total KJV occurrences: 60

kiss, crouch (bow to), prostate oneself in homage, do reverence to, adore, - that's worship

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by johnw74: 12:04am On Sep 01, 2015

Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?

by Matt Slick

The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings.

Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors:

Taking verses out of their immediate context.
Refusing to read verses in the entire Biblical context.
Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text.
Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs.
Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others.
Changing the meanings of words.
Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines.
Adding to the Word of God.

Continue:
https://carm.org/is-the-jehovahs-witness-religion-christian

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 11:51pm On Aug 31, 2015

^^^
They go to lenghts to disagree with the Bible that say's Jesus is worshipped,
and they disagree with Father God who said "And let all the angels of God worship him."

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 1:10am On Aug 31, 2015

johnw74: And of course all the Angels of God don't worship man, but worship God, they worship Jesus Christ.

By the way all the Angels of God that worship Jesus Christ, includes the Angel Michael,
he is an Angel of God, right

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God Was WITH God by johnw74: 12:52am On Aug 31, 2015*

^^^

Yet Jozzy4, who says he is not jw but agrees with jw, said Mary did give birth to God.

I'm suprised that you jw, agree with me in this truth, that Mary gave birth to the Son of God (that is human-flesh) and that the Spirit of God was not born with Jesus Christ, but has eternally existed, and was given to Jesus with His first breath.

But the real truth is jw don't agree with truth,
he will wiggle out of agreeing with me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:30am On Aug 31, 2015

horlaleykan:
D's is d work of seducing spirits... deer Is only only one name given under heaven whereby men can be saved D NAME OF JESUS

@bold, Yes that is true, Jesus is the only name given in which we can be saved,
that alone tells me that Jesus Christ is God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:21am On Aug 31, 2015

^^^

Cornelius and the servant were wrong to worship another man,
even Angels have told man not to worship them
Rev_22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

The 2 jw posters above are trying to belittle the worship of Jesus Christ.
Christians worship Jesus Christ like the scriptures say:

Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Mat 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

Mat 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Mat 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of course all the Angels of God don't worship man, but worship God, they worship Jesus Christ.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 12:42pm On Aug 30, 2015

^^^

jw doesn't believe the scriptures that say Jesus Christ is worshipped, no suprise

jw say Jesus Christ is a false god:

RikoduoSennin:
IN THE END THERE SHALL BE ONLY ONE BECAUSE A TRUE GOD HAS NO FATHER.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Was WITH God by johnw74: 11:12am On Aug 30, 2015

For those who understand

johnw74: It's very clear and simple for a believer, Mary didn't give birth to God who has always existed
Mary gave birth to the Son of God, a flesh human body

His Spirit existed forever, it didn't grow inside Mary, Mary didn't give birth to God's Spirit, it was Jesus's flesh human body that grew inside Mary, Mary gave birth to the flesh human Jesus, not to the Eternal Spirit of God.

Also
A baby's spirit enters it at it's first breath,
a persons spirit leaves him at his last breath

Mary gave birth to the flesh and blood body of baby Jesus Christ, she didn't give birth to God's Spirit which has existed eternally, God's Spirit entered Jesus at His first breath after being born.
And at Jesus last breath He gave up the Spirit
Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Job 34:14 If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath;
Job 34:15 All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.

Jozzy4: ....do you now accept that Mary gave birth to God ?

Christianity Etc › Re: God Was WITH God by johnw74: 10:18am On Aug 30, 2015

Brown47:
@bold
you dont even know what your saying.

I know what I am saying, but you don't, you don't understand even though I explained to you that the flesh human body of Jesus Christ grew inside Mary, and that the Spirit of God didn't grow inside Mary but exists eternally.
You cannot see or understand it
satan blinds the minds of sectarians-unbelievers

2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness! After Admitting This, Why Do You Still Claim Jesus Isn't God? by johnw74: 3:07am On Aug 30, 2015

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Father God said for all the Angels of God to worship Jesus Christ, all the Angels of God includes the Angel Michael.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Worship Jesus Christ? by johnw74: 3:01am On Aug 30, 2015

No jw don't worship Jesus Christ, but Christians do, because He is to be worshipped:

Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Mat 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

Mat 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Mat 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Was WITH God by johnw74: 12:44am On Aug 30, 2015

The Jesus of the Bible is prayed to (Acts 7:55-60, Psalm 116:4 and Zech. 13:9 with 1 Cor. 1:1-2).
The Jesus of the Bible is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11, 14:33; 28:9, John 9:35-38, Heb. 1:6).
The Jesus of the Bible called God (John 20:28, Heb. 1:eight).

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