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Jozzy4:
Wow again ! You perfectly separate the Word FROM God himself

Wow wow


and God is One.

Self explanatory !

" for us there is One God , The Father "
1cor 8:6

Duh again, "the Word was with God" ..................... and "the Word was God"

but you will never know or believe.

Jozzy4:
I love the way you separate the Word from God Himself , The last time I checked you said theos with capital " G" is used only for God . And thats why theos in act 28:6 remains " a god" coz paul is not God himself ! So also you separate the Word from God himself .


beautiful .

Duh, "the Word was with God"

Jozzy4:
Silly idea from an indoctrinated man, Two persons who are WITH each other cannot be One God , CAN YOU SHOW ME A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS " GOD AND JESUS ARE ONE GOD" ? ? Or its just johnw74's personal idea ?

Your failure to show me that scripture that says they are one God will expose you .

Oh silly person, God and the word is two persons, and God is One.
You will never understand it.

Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies

jw:
1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).


That is just one of many false Prophecies of the jw's
jw have given many dates and statments as fact which have fallen by the wayside, and they then say it is a learning or some excuse.
But God say's they are false prophets.


Read some false jw prophecies here:
https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies

Jozzy4:
Really ; Ok, Who is God ?

Of course jw doesn't know who God is.

Going by ur explanation above, this is the ONLY PERSON that fits theos as God .

Boy you confused.

@ underlined , BOTH ? Do u now have two Gods ?

There are two persons in John 1:1, One God
You say God and the Word are two God's
Do you know anything at all?

Jozzy4:
Confuse man , if the JW's are wrong to translate theos as a god ; why did the king james version translate theos as "a god" in Act 28:6 ? Why not properly translate theos as God in Act 28:6 ?

confused unbeliever, theos is translated "a god" in Acts because it's referring to the Apostle Paul not God.
theos is used twice in John 1:1 in just that one short verse, and it is talking off God and the Word of God,
it is clear to any believer that it's God in both instances.

The Spirit that is in the Watchtower Society
it's the spirit of har-lot babylon - false religion


Jehovah's Witnesses hid child sex abuse

THE opening day of a royal commission hearing into abuse within the church has heard how 1006 allegations of child abuse since 1950 were dealt with internally and never reported to police.
It has also heard that victims were made to confront their abusers and left feeling as if they had sinned.

"He said the church was preoccupied with sin and sinning."

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/jehovahs-witnesses-face-inquiry/story-e6frfku9-1227458045290



‘Out of the mouth of babes’ – young woman exposes JW organization

"One woman who allegedly blamed for being raped and the other was abused as a child and nothing was done by congregation elders."

http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/news/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes-young-woman-exposes-jw-organisation



More Links to the Evil's of Jehovah's Witnesses at this Page

http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/


The Spirit behind Watchtower society is satan.

JMAN05:
Lie lie, no enlightenment for u. Sorry.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (theos), and the Word was God (theos).

jw calls John 1:1 "Lie lie".
What else would be expected of those who have changed the bible to suit their false doctrines.
That is off the devil.

JMAN05:
Smh for u.

jw reply concerning his false accusation, shows the queer spirit in jw.

Here is another person who doesn't believe that Jesus is God in the flesh.
You are becoming like him.


Hello, I'm Darwin Bedford, the Atheist Messiah, and if that self-made bastard, Jesus, returns again I think we should really nail him to a cross and let Him hang suffering until death. The last time He died, He was executed by a handful of Jewish elders by them throwing Him off a rooftop. Then He was thrown onto the top of a cross for public viewing so that the villagers could see that He was executed by the elders. That's how people were executed at that time in history when Jesus was alive. Yes, if His Holy Transformer (God) turns himself into human flesh once again then maybe we could hire some of Mel Gibson's extras from "The Passion Of The Christ" to punish Him first. I'm getting to be an elder myself--if only I could execute people for making extraordinary false claims.

http://www.if-jesus-returns-kill-him-again.com/index.html

http://undojesus.org/



He say's that he does not hate.
Speaking lies is speaking naturally for him too.

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Thrown into the Lake of Fire for Eternity, what a price to pay for a few moments of self glory.

JMAN05:
Sorry no enlightenment for u.

Changing the Bible, "God" to "a god" in John 1:1 is jw enlightenment.

More jw changes here:


What do we know about Jesus?

Jesus always was:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God
and the Word was God. (John 1:1)

This verse is so important, It tells us that the Word, which is Jesus,
always existed. It tells us that the Word, which is Jesus, is God.

If your Bible changes any word or adds anything in these verses then
you are reading a Bible written by Satan! throw it out and leave the
religion that wrote that Bible! Stick to the King James Bible or new
King James Bible only.

Be very careful!

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures is the Bible of the
Jehovah's Witnesses. It is written by the New World Bible translation
Committee and published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
of New York Inc. That have made many errors with their publications.
They changed many, many verses to comply with their false teachings.

Continue here:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=wRxaAAAAQBAJ&pg=PT98&dq=changed+verses+in+the+new+world+translation&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAGoVChMIs__ehaW3xwIViNumCh2RxAqO#v=onepage&q=changed%20verses%20in%20the%20new%20world%20translation&f=false

JMAN05:
U need eye glass. Reread.

U can't be honest,
point it out.

JMAN05:
Do not give such people anything enlightening cos they aren't sincere and humble. Just limit ur comment so that they know nothing more until they become ready to be humble.

I challenge you to point out just one thing in my post to jozzy4 that I'm not sincere about,
but there is nothing, is there? you are just jw speaking lies, speaking naturally.

JMAN05:
Do not give such people anything enlightening cos they aren't sincere and humble. Just limit ur comment so that they know nothing more until they become ready to be humble.

Enlightening, it's impossible to be enlightened from studying a changed and perverted bible.
The jw nwt bible.

Jozzy4:
okay , Who is God praying to ? ... Another God ?

Unbelievers reject and question the scriptures
is why you cannot know or understand.

veecovee:
how did you confirm the agreement? don't be talking any stuff that comes in your mind. Sir, .still go back and read

How? are you serious? I said pope Francis being pope Peter the Roman because his father was named Peter and was from Rome is to big a stretch for me.
Which you replied "thank God you've found out" you agreed with my not believing Francis is Peter.

I did go to the site and read, and there is nothing there showing that Francis is Peter.

You could easily copy the part from the site that shows pope Francis is pope Peter the Roman and paste it here, but you won't because it doesn't exist.
We should be prepared for Jesus coming, but are you just another fraud making claims you cannot back up?

Jozzy4:
Am not an unbeliver

I asked you if you believe that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, a believer would jump at the chance to say YES I do,
your non answer shows that you do not believe that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, you are not a Christian, you are an unbeliever.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I'm sure you don't believe those verses but they clearly state that , verse 1 the Word God, verse 14 became flesh.

jw change their bible to say, verse 1 the Word was a god

however the Greek word for God in "the Word was with God" is "theos" which jw leave correctly as "God"
but in "the Word was God" which is also "theos" jw change to "a god", a very evil thing to do.

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Those verses do not just apply to the book of Revelation, but to the whole Bible.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.



Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (theos), and the Word was God (theos)

The Word was with God, and the Word was God,
jw lie and change their bible to say, the Word was with God and the Word was a god.

The spirit in Jozzy4, and it's definately not the Holy Spirit,
but the spirit of lies and bad natured false accusations toward Christians:

Jozzy4

Its clear, You are the confuse person

See your confusion status ?

Mr man ,Why are you so confuse ?

Typical confuse man.

the OP is a confuse man

Who is lying between you both ?

you think you can just wake up from sleep and type anything . nonsense

malvisguy is a confuse person

jozzy to true2god: When you grow up from dis delusion

jozzy to johnw74: When you grow up from this delusion

their already conceived venomous ideas

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jozzy4:
Am not an unbeliver , infact am different from some hypocrites who will accept the septuagint but once it speaks against their already conceived venomous ideas , they throw it out and claim its wrongly translated .



You are actually saying the septuagint is an unbeliver. NOT me . Keep pointing finger at a translation used by Jesus

Shame on you .

You cannot help but lie, like satan who when speaking a lie is speaking naturally.

Jozzy4:
Just answer my question:


Can you give birth to something you already possessed ?

You must have a brain like a sieve
once again, I don't get into discussions with unbelievers, I just sometimes show them where they are wrong
like I have with you.

Jozzy4:
This begs the question : CAN YOU GIVE BIRTH TO something you already possess ? A connection with proverb 8:24


1st century Septuagint used by Jesus and his apostles said Created !

Modern translation said possessed

Which do u accept ?

Modern translation

What a liar you are.
I accept many Bible translations, I accept the Hebrew texts that were before the Septuagint, and I accept the Septuagint, unlike you I can see where some words are wrongly translated.

Jozzy4:

Meanwhile , my question remain : can you give birth to something you already possessed ? Proverb 8:24 .

When you sincerely answer that question we will see which translation is correct .

I'm not interested in discussions with unbelievers, I showed you where you are wrong with verse 22 which you have not admitted to and which you rejected John 1:1

Wow , Septuagint is wrong translation wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

Septuagint : a translation used in Jesus Era

Jesus choose septuagint translation over the traditional hebrew translation ( a case study of LXX matthew 21:16 ) .


When you grow up from this delusion , we will discuss .

@red, What a deceiver you are:

johnw74:
Try and see things clearly, the whole Septuagint is not a wrong translation, the verse discussed is a wrong translation.

Jozzy4:
You cant deny it that the Septuagint said "kitzo CREATE" ; brother , so Septuagint that Jesus himself quote from is a wrong translation ?


Na wah o .

Once again Septuagint comes from the Hebrew, but you keep on finding wrong translations to suit your doctrines,
Jesus never quoted any wrong translation like the Septuagint Proverbs 8:22

Try and see things clearly, the whole Septuagint is not a wrong translation, the verse discussed is a wrong translation.

If you believe Jesus is God in the flesh you can call me brother, otherwise I'm not your brother, I'm a Christian.

Jozzy4:
WHATEVER you posess is your property , Jesus is therefore a property of God . God owns him . Good


meanwhile , proverb 8:24 declares that "he was brought forth " or " given birth to" (chul) , tell us: how was he given birth to ? Bcoz u cant give birth to something you already possess .

Don't change what I'm saying, you don't believe John 1:1, have the courage to say so

"the Word was with God" does not mean "the Word was created by God"
and so the proper translation of Proverbs 8:22 is "the LORD possessed me"

Just as you confess that " qanah" means CREATE ,

I also said it means buy, own, possess, recover, redeem, but if being shifty makes you feel you are right then stay with that spirit

@Proverb 8:22 Septuagint declares Jesus as " kitzo " meaning "CREATE OR MAKE .


Beautiful.

The Septuagint is a Greek translation of the old testament from the Hebrew which word is "qanah"
but continue in finding wrong translations that suit your doctrines.

The scribes and pharisees called the Holy spirit in Jesus Christ "Beelzebub" - the devil,
that is the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit.
Every work that Jesus did through the Holy Spirit was a good work,
yet they gave credit for Jesus's works to the devil.

Mar 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mar 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

veecovee:
thank God you 've found out

First you say pope francis is pope Peter the Roman,
now you agree with me that he isn't,
are you playing games?

Jozzy4:
you think you can just wake up from sleep and type anything . nonsense

Spotlight on the color part , answer these .

1) just explain to me : what do you mean by Jesus was possessed ? .

Ii ) and do you know that the greek septuagint (a very old translation) which Jesus himself quote and used said " MADE"?

@red, it's right there bolded and underlined and you can't see it

The LORD possessed me
the Word was with God

No wonder you are bad mouthing everyone who says diffrently to you, you cannot see what is said, and you don't understand the scriptures

For the second time Proverbs 8:22 say's the LORD "posessed me", because John 1:1 say's that "the Word was with God" it's another witness to "possessed" being the correct translation in Proverbs 8:22, it's very simple to see.

"made" is an English word, it is not in the Septuagint, it's a word translated, the Hebrew text had the word "qanah" which can mean create, buy, own, possess, recover, redeem, and more depending where the word is used
John 1:1 is just another witness showing that the word "possessed" is the correct word for proverbs 8:22

You can go back to sleep now.

The unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit is saying Jesus had the spirit of satan, the scribes and pharisees said that is the power behing His miracles.

Mar 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mar 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

Saying Jesus had an unclean spirit is the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit.
That's what the verses say.

Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

They called the Holy Spirit in Jesus "Beelzebub" - the devil.

veecovee:
go back to the website. The name Peter the Roman was a description, like he described Pope john Pope with eclipse.
..just go back to the site. God bless u

God bless u too,
pope Francis being pope Peter the Roman because his father is named Peter and was from Rome is to big a stretch for me.

Thoniameek:
I think we're all misunderstanding the prophet here.....

I believe it's OK to name a female Linda, but I don't believe it's OK to call an ordinary man a prophet.

Jozzy4: And who told you Jesus is not created ?

Proverb 8:22 " The LORD Made me (Jesus) as the beginning of his way, the earliest of HIS ACHIEVEMENT"

Emusan the above is a wrong bible translation. John 1:1 is another witness to the proper word in Proverbe 8:22 being "possessed" and not "made".
Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The currant pope is pope Francis
not pope Peter the Roman