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urahara:
Johnny the greatest hw far u

I am good my boss, what about you bro?

Sarassin:
Johnnydon22. The only person on NL whose opinions I would actually pay to read.
The OP on the other hand is one of the most tunnel-visioned, hackneyed regurgitator of Christian apologetic semantic jiggery-pokery on NL.

You flatter me my boss....

bolded words: truer words has never been spoken

promise101:
Wise fool!

I pray that you will be very wise like this on your death bed! At least, when you are back you will tell me what you saw.

Hope you will see something at the beyond? Or is it only dark you will see? Or you don't know what beyond will look like?

Calm down it's not a fight abeg ... You win carry cup please

erusen:
hey john I am a huge fan, I read your diary.am not an expert on scientific matter,so was wondering where I could start learning science from the simple matter to complex issues?.

Hello my brother, thank you... i have this idea of opening threads on scientific topic to teach the little things i know in lay man terms.. i have done many of that actually and recently put a (Simplified physics with Johnydon22) series.

I like every other science enthusiast here try with the little time we can spare to bring these to life and we know people appreciate and learn which is rewarding in itself.

But we feel Nairaland should gun towards bringing science topics to the lime light to reach a broader audience.

we that bring up these topics do so with the aim of reaching a bigger audience and to promote science among nigerian youths of which Nl serves as a good platform.

We hope Seun puts this into consideration and we will continue to do our best in this science section, you will be seeing more sir..

Edelweiss44:
Mr, when your oxygen supply runs out and you find your spirit being dragged away to hell by angry demons, YOU WILL CERTAINLY BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD , AND YOU WILL BELIEVE ALSO THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO LIFE YOU SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN WHILE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE ON EARTH. I WEEP FOR YOU NOW BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT WANT YOU ENDING UP IN HELL, BUT YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE A CHOICE TO GO THERE BY REJECTING JESUS CHRIST. IF YOU STILL THINK THAT YOU CREATED YOURSELF, OR THAT THE WHOLE EARTH AND UNIVERSE APPEARED FROM NOWHERE ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT AN INTELLIGENT DESIGN BEHIND IT, THEN I WONDER WHO ELSE SENATOR BEN-BRUCE SHOULD BE PREACHING COMMON SENSE TO IF NOT YOU.

Hhmmm so your belief is centered around the threat that there is a belief begging god who is going to burn you if you don't exercise blind belief that it exists.

Hhmmmm makes perfect sense

promise101:
Confused human being!!!!!

hahahahaha ok thank you..

promise101:
Yea, of course! It is a foolishness to foolish people like you!

Exactly, that is why such belief is only for people as wise as you are

KuliMart:
From our store. Presell starts May 4th.

how much?

Lilbrown007:
ONE THING I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT AV SEEN SOME CASES WERE THIS SO CALLED WITCHES MAINLY CHILDREN CONFESSING TO BE WITCHES MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE PAIN THEY ARE MADE TO GO THROUGH BUT THIS SAME CHILDREN ARE ABLE TO NARRATE A STORY OF HOW THEY WITCHY ACTIVITIES GOES AT NIGHT I DON'T KNOW MAYBE CAUSE OF "NOLLYWOOD" BUT COULD THEY BE A MENTAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ILLNESS CAUSING THAT??

I have seen it too where Children are beaten until they agree to the accusation. . to me it is the worst form of physical and psychological abuse

samsam2019 i noticed you haven't answered my question above

johnydon22:
I am curious to know, which of the God concepts and religion around is not an invention of men and their imaginations?

PastorAIO:
I don't know. and it is besides the point. Let me repeat my question.

The question I asked you was if you could provide any example of protos being used to mean 'before' with that grammatical construction.



No I don't. I don't believe any textual source can provide infallible truth.

If you scroll down to the bottom of any wikipedia page you'll see references and footnotes that will direct you to more scholarly source if you desire to pursue the matter further.


Me, myself and I.



That conjunctive was very necessary cos it shows that you understand that being a Christian is not the same as worshipping the bible as infallible and inerrant despite the blatant inconstancy and outright historical falsehoods. So you are a christian AND and Bible worshipper. Well done.

Out of curiosity, What is the basis for your Bible Worship?

This thread is a very good case study to the outright dishonesty in Christian apologetics.

He first of all concluded on an answer before embarking on an enquiry, using belief as a foundation for an enquiry how can you ever expect that to be truthful?

He first established the bible as an inerrant source therefore can never be mistaken … (using his belief this time as a basis)

All his deductions therefore must never contradict that that belief of biblical inerrancy.

Like he did above discarding a possible conclusion just because it would then mar his belief in biblical inerrancy.

so you see, he is not looking for a truthful answer but rather an answer that will not contradict the biblical position which in fact was the source being questioned here..

since the bible is inerrant, why question it at all then?

He is not trying to reach a truthful deduction because he already concluded on what his answer must be uncaring whether it is true or not.

He rather is ok with what he wants to believe, what feels good to him rather than honestly open mindedly enquire to reach a truthful deduction.


That is stark dishonesty needed to protect the alleged words of an all knowing God...

I shudder at this..

Oxytocin:
For that to result to our extinction, don't you think the earth would have started experiencing a stepwise death?

If the earth's death is in straight definition with it's ability to sustain life then Yes

samsam2019:
hahahahahahahhaah I get your sarcasm bro.

But the truth is; the christian god is an invention of liars and their imaginations.

So he's nothing and nothing can harm something

I am curious to know, which of the God concepts and religion around is not an invention of men and their imaginations?

hahn:
Abeg, how can you put Kanu and Mandela on the same level?

I am not just read the post again

Oxytocin:
During the early stages of the demise of the sun.. Hmmm
That means you are trying to say, the points I raised above wouldn't be the causality of earth's destruction or better still has no part to play in earth's doom

They more likely will result in our own extinction and not that of the planet....

Oxytocin:
Checked up extremophiles, they do live long and able to withstand some extreme conditions not all.
An organism able to withstand temperatures of over 300°C doesn't necessarily mean, it can withstand very high radiation outbursts,unless we are looking at adaptation.. Surely then, it's not impossible.

You didn't really talk on the topic, will the earth still be a reality long before the slow deceptive death of its sun?

I gave the answer on the post you might have missed it..

" the demise of the earth is directly roped around that of the sun but the earth
won't be here for the sun's final death stages."

The earth will be during the early stages but will no longer be after it is engulfed into the sun's surface..

shamecurls:
Comedy
Dude not coming out of jail till 2040

That will only make a hero and martyr out of him just like it did mandela..

we should be always careful not to conclude based on emotions and one sided sentiments

Oxytocin:
I don't believe in witches,or should I say, I don't want to believe witches exist and Yea, I'm a Christian

opeaceo:
They cut across Some Denominations, and I have the same view.

This is what i love to see... well done bros

urahara:
CHISOSSS. i dnt bliv dis . in dis jet age

Computer age rather, we've gone past the jet age ... which makes such belief and practises rather demeaning and insulting to the human intellect and development

urahara:
I have never in my life seen a xtian dat doesnt bliv in witches neva

opeaceo should be an example of such Christian

Oxytocin:
At the word in bold, New organisms as in??
I don't think new organisms can resurface, owing to earth's atmospheric condition by that time, life would be far from Earth,the radiation from the core the toxic gases in the air by then wouldn't make life possible.

The bolded should be re-evaluated my brother.. That you as an oxygen needing life form is dependent on oxygen for survival doesn't mean every other life form does.

so there is nothing like Impossible for life there are conditions here on earth that we consider impossible to harbour life yet life thrives on them.

Extemophiles...

Read more https://lcogt.net/spacebook/what-are-extremophiles/

there are even earth found organism that can comfortably live without oxygen or even in the dangerous vacuum of space

And your second paragraph, I have a relating thought.
What if the death of the sun is explained in the Bible,where it said, and 'a star of heaven fell to earth'. What if this is the religious explanation of the Sun exploding as a supernova? Which in turn is in the next 5 billion years?

I doubt if the sun will die in a supernova, rather it should be a slow more deceptive death first it will turn into a red giant.

it will slowly shed of it's shells Check out planetary nebulas and see how it will be.. before collapsing into a white dwarf.

But the earth won't really stay up that long.

-Life on earth will boil away with increase in the sun's temperature
-the planet itself with be engulfed by the enlarged red sun when it gets to the peak of it's red giant stage which might reach up to the orbit of mars.

the demise of the earth is directly roped around that of the sun but the earth won't be here for the sun's final death stages.

Mars, jupiter, and others might.

Cc. lalasticlala mynd44

hahn:
It is a general thing and very common with Christians

Not all of them but Most do

opeaceo:
You can't generalise about Christians like that. "some Christians" in place of Christians should be used.

Very correct, not all Christians believe such tales by the moonlight like witches..

urahara:
Like seriously. Do people kill people for being witches in this present day and age.


Cc johnnydon22

87year old mobbed
http://xelpost.com/news/7337/85-year-old-woman-mobbed-in-delta-for-witchcraft

four stripped and burnt for witchcraft in 21st century Guinea
http://www.informationng.com/2015/10/photos-video-four-women-stripped-off-burned-by-gang-for-witchcraft.html

Girl burnt to death for witchcraft accusation
http://m.voanews.com/a/girl-burned-to-death-in-nigeria-after-witchcraft-allegation/2829215.html

5killed in India
https://www.naij.com/513662-five-women-beaten-death-witchcraft-photos.html

My girl friend is allowed a maximum of three male friends : The father, the son and the holy spirit (i dont even trust the holy spirit even, remember mary) other than these three, i don't do that best friend shiit

Fear: Is a very important aspect of our natural self, it is rooted in survival and is a fueling value for our Survival Instincts

But when this Factor is misplaced, misused, far stretched and imaginative, it becomes a dangerous value, it becomes detrimental to survival and a psychological prison that can mar our psychological well being.

I live in a society deep in the heart land of Enugu like all southern states is lit with magnanimous religious activities, a gripping clutch of outright superstitious fantasy, a pitiable belief and fear of witchcraft.


"Mrs Mmuo has been accused by her daughter
in-law of being a witch.
She lost two babies in miscarriages and the last was a still birth.
the only chant she knows right now is

"My mother in-law is a witch, she ate my babies, my pastor confirmed it"


Mr Obiajulu has been branded a wizard by his Children, he had laboured to see them through school now they are independent.
the first son had some troubles in his business and the man of god's never wrong pointing hands fell on his father.

Now the song is "My Father is a wizard working against my progress, man of God confirmed it"

Yes little children are not left out of the party,
any child with a slightly unique but different character is a witch, a reincarnation of an ancestral spirit .

The prayer house even used Cane on the little Ada to get her to confess.
Marks of darkened cane stripes adorn her flesh as a testimony.


"Holy Ghost fires" rents the air as the church beside attack spiritually the witches of the night while the rest of us need to twist and turn in bed unable to close our eyes from the shouts and bangs robbing us of sleep.

The average Nigerian society is riddled by the fear of Witches and Wizards, by the fear of such vague abstract notions that is no more than a psychological epilepsy conceived by a misplaced fearful mind.

it is a dangerous belief, a social menace and a stumbling block to our psychological growth.

-Every whiff of wind is a witch-craft manifestation.

-the rats and cockroaches in the house trying to find something to eat are in fact monitoring spirits sent from the village to monitor progresses.

-The cry of owls in the night is actually that of a witch in assignment..

-A child talking in the sleep is possessed.

- Every weird looking uncle or grand mother is actually one responsible for your problems.

-Every night mare is a revelation that an evil is attacking you.

It has gotten to the point that Husbands can accuse wives, mothers accuses children, wifes accuse mother in-laws, uncles, fathers, grand mothers, grand fathers.

everyone is caught in that web of fearful accusations and untold scare.

If you wear a red shade, you will see everything in a shade of red, the trees will beam down with red leaves, the sky will be smeared with red

It is time to take out that red shade, time to rid your mind of unhealthy baseless beliefs rooted in sheepish fear, ignorance and simplistic gullibility to what bible wielding, tongue firing, swag bearing men of God said.

The mind can be our greatest ally and our greatest foe, if you convince yourself that you are being chased surely you'll live the rest of your life running from nothing other than your own mind.

You'll spend your life battling imaginary enemies every night and day in an unending streak of illusionary wars.

You will be a prisoner of your own mind, a captive of your own fear and that can only diminish your ability to live freely.

It is time to take out the red shade and see clearer
time to shed these vague abstract fears and breathe freely

Nothing diminishes the human potential more than victimization of one's self.
Stop blaming every other thing for your misfortune and thereby making yourself the victim.

One problem with such fearful vague fantasies is that it keeps you busy fighting over enemies that are not there, compounding your problems with imaginary causes thereby invoking the need for imaginary solutions.

That is when our belief and fear becomes an enemy to self.

The rate of such demeaning belief etched in the minds of the average Nigerian makes this society an easy prey for selfish con men who would utilize this fear to extort the masses while dipping them deeper into this illusionary show down of fearful fantasy.

It is either you choose to be master of your own self by ridding your mind of any diminishing belief and fear or you subject yourself to the rule of your fears.

Removed the red shade and put on a clearer one
That a suit wearing man accused your mother to be the architects of your problem doesn't make it true, your illness are natural, your dreams are a projection of your mind, nobody is tying down your progress.

In a life and society ruled by random uncharted interactions there is bound to be an uncaring outcome from these events.
Good and bad can happen to anybody irrespective of their belief or character, what you make of such situations is all that matters.

Roping them around belief in witches rather compounds your problems and keeps you busy chasing and fighting nothing ..

We should all gun towards a healthy mind, unshackled by fear of vague concepts and unbound by imaginary battles.

Our youths should stop mobbing old men and women in the name of killing witches such practises are long gone in the global scale and are regarded as the dark ages in human history.

Children should stop being beaten, maimed and even burnt because of flimsy baseless accusations emanating from a con mind swallowed by a fearful and gullible mind.

With the sad eventuality of this demeaning beliefs in such a vague notion as Witches, with it's effects found in almost every nook and cranny of our society.

One can rightly assert that belief in witchcraft is a social menace, one we must evolve and leave behind for our own good.

I am tempted join this but it is already hot enough as it is

well **seats on a chair with Hero (O mpa) watching**

continue **sips my o mpa**

PastorAIO Mmmhm absolutely brilliant here, AgentOfAllah what can i say .. well keep it up guys

joseph1013:
[b]^^^
WHY ARE YOU SO INTOLERANT OF GOD?
You can be sure that multiples times every week, I get messages by PMs from people who are so sure that I have unbridled animosity against/towards God and say this thread is filled with the darkest shades of unscrupulousness. I even get to chuckle when I am accused of being bitter and angry with God. Did I talk of the threats and how some have vowed to send me to Hell early if they get hold of me in person? Oh yes, I am the intolerant one, right!
Let's look at it this way: In a particular big estate, there are 20 owners of 20,000 houses. Each of the owners has at least 500 houses each except one man named John who owns just one house. Yet the rest 19 fellow owners would not stop harassing him for owning the single house. Illogical, right? I thought so too.
The average religious Nigerian believes he/she has an inalienable right to evangelism. Hence, they go from house to house, door to door, room to room, office to office, organization to organization...evangelizing.
The public transportation system is not spared...'good morning my brothers and sisters' ....They shout, they preach, they threaten... They pass leaflets, they pass invites...often times they pass envelopes for donations.
You think they are done ......Nope!
They take to the public address systems, television networks, radios, churches, crusades....They disturb the peace...you can barely have a goodnight sleep if one of their joints happen to be in your neighborhood.
To cap it up ...political institutions are on their side.. They often dictate to a large extent what happens there. The recent Gender Equality bill was squashed when a Senator from the North stood up in the Chambers to say it is UnIslamic. The 14-year gay bill was passed because they believe the Bible does not give room for homosexuals. The war against Boko Haram was complicated because Northern elders believed a war against them is a war against Islam. Constitutionally, Nigeria is a secular state, but our laws have religious undertones.
Mind you, in their minds, they don't think they are disturbing anyone. Their door-to-door evangelism is a dictate from God. Their all-night vigils disturbing the neighbour is to God. All their acts are from God. Since it's from God, everyone has to take it.
This has been happening for centuries. In the past people were killed, often harassed if you dared try to criticize. It's still being done in fundamentalist societies.
Then the door opens: The average Nigerian atheist.
They don't have your time. They have been psychologically beaten to suppression.
They don't distribute leaflets or worse, carry public address system.
They have found solace on the social media and internet forums. They have decided to express themselves freely...Criticisms, Satire, Jokes and often times Debates. Like me, they ask alot of questions and are open-minded to learn.
These modes of communication do not disturb physically....Not an ounce of decibel is heard...You're free to ignore...You can also unfollow/unfriend/block the individual at your own volition.

But you know what?

The average religious person wants it to stop, they say it's intolerance. Some even claim its borne out of hate.
The worst part is...they still want to maintain their own freedom of religious expression, while suppressing your own freedom of speech.
They say that's what God wants![/b]

The Christian Faith is a very insecure and fragile one that needs to be protected all the time against independent reason..

it is their God given mandate to criticize, insult other religions even burn their places of worship while preaching, banging and literally forcing theirs down your throat but it is persecution when theirs is criticized.

i have never seen such unparalleled hypocrisy.

Christians shout Persecution not when they are not getting equal rights but when they are not getting more rights than others or rights to persecute others.

Nicely done Joe

MizyB:
Johnydon22, this is a prophesy, you should note. Thank you

Oh prophecies comes from i alone... I have one for you "In the year of a good golden rat, a daughter of yours will come to serve me on my alter .."

Please take very good note of this my prophecy