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Christianity Etc › Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(op): 5:24pm On Nov 20, 2015*

Raymondenyi:
is that u on your DP? U look way young for ur faculty of thinking... u studying philosophy I'll wanna guess!!!

Well yes that is me on my profile . . So young? i couldn't guess there is any expected age for it... I can only imagine what age you make me out to be..lol..

Naaah not really studying philosophy, aspiring Astrophysics is more like it..

Anyway just as a writer initially said; u cannot proof /unproof their is no God; so it's all a matter of believe!!! And believe me wheen I say most of these believes comes from experiences, while others cultures handed down...

Of course it all has to do with the psychological tilt of the believer or unbeliever..

Neither can anybody here disprove or prove that i don't have a black winged horse right now in my yard.. Absence of proof on my part as the claimant reduces my claim to a mere claim bearing no weight until substantiated.

God supposedly should be an existential entity, why is it that when it comes to an existential entity like the sun nobody choose to believe it rather we are certain of it but when it comes to the premise of Deities it becomes a matter of leap of Faith..

It betrays an unsure vague and baseless concept..

I'll give u an instance...
U cannot tell someone that have been having numerous challenges in life or someone dying of a severe medical condition scientist could not unravel who prayed to God and got his problem solved or healed instantly... u cannot tell such person to believe there is no God... he might murder u...

That is it, it always deals with the psychological tilt of the subject.. Some can argue with you till death that it was a lucky charm they had on, some would maintain it was they fluffy bunny slippers, some would even assert their dead relative did it.

This is all there is.. BELIEF...holds no water on reality neither does it automatically make the claim true. . . It only shows attributing flimsy cases of placebo to unsure concepts..

All in all my broda; nobody is a fool... we all have reasons for our actions... people believing in something have their reasons!!

Mostly because they were indoctrinated from childhood to believe them, taught at a very young age dependency on abstract concepts, taught to base their thinking on books written by a society we are way ahead of in terms of ethics and development.

My brother nobody really is a fool and most really had no choice, but it is our choice and our undying right to question things asserted without empirical substantiation especially one that discards curiosity and roots on such a dishonest quality as Faith..

All the beest..

You too sir

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 11:32am On Nov 20, 2015

Brainaic:
Lool.. Nice joke

It wasn't a joke actually any believer of a religion would come here to argue that a kind of deity spoke the earth into existence.

Some would even assert the earth was created before it's parent star (sun) which is a very absurd notion.

Man is ascertaining through study the actual events in planetary formations which is exactly the same phase EARTH passed through in it's formation but people think the earth popped out magically when a deity spoke to himself and then the sun was created 4 days later..

Not only is it ridiculous, it is embarrasing

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Science/Technology › Re: Galaxies by johnydon22(op): 9:07am On Nov 20, 2015*

dabosuker:
Nice piece johnny
When you think of the billions of stars in our milky way , add that to the billion of galaxies in the Universe , it would only show we are far from special, we are far not the center of it all...In fact it would really be absurd to say we are alone ...it is also scary for us to be alone in such a vast & deep space & also scary to imagine we are not alone (when you begin to imagine what other life forms to expect) given the strange worlds out there, I keep saying saying it the "Possibilities are endless", if only we would open our minds .
Alien life is out there, it can't just be in the "Earth" alone ...I can't just swallow that pill.... . The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old, the Universe believed to be about about 15 billion years old, other planets would have come into being within this time, some earlier than the earth, others younger than the earth, & it is possible they could habor life, some of these planets in maybe the Andromeda galaxy could have rudimentary life forms, some other planets in some other galaxy could have more complex life forms that could be way way advanced & civilized than humans, such that we maybe too stupid (even with all our advancement/technology/civilization) & remain insignificant especially if such planets have been around for more than 4.5 billion years...Its a possibility....
So many star systems to explore, so many galaxies to search, at the end of the day the barrier is,.. & remains technology . At least now more of us now know we are not the centre of the Universe, not even the centre of the Milky way.......we are just a tiny spec of the cosmos. , hopefully we would soon find our neighbours, maybe they have already found us & found us not interesting enough to say "Hi", maybe they have said "Hi", but sadly we not yet intelligent to recognise them

Or they are still searching like us

Science/Technology › Re: Galaxies by johnydon22(op): 9:06am On Nov 20, 2015

donnffd:
A very Nice piece, but I think our focus is not to travel to the stars just yet, we have about 2 billions years to figure that one out, I think we should focus on increasing our life span to even a thousand years, Whats the essence of colonizing the galaxy only to enjoy it for a mere 100 years or less? if we cant maintain our physical vessel, how can we maintain a galaxy that most likely would contain extraterrestial life!!!

To me the value in human life is that we know it is feeble, we know we are mortal that to me is what makes this life worth the trouble.

I heard a Russian billionaire is funding a research to increase human life span to almost a thousand years but if that happens it will pose a threat of over population, rapid decrease in resources, catastrophic violence and the world as we know it might be thrown off balance..

personally i think negating factors maintains the balance of the world.. Where ever we stopped in our exploration of the universe our children would continue.

The nobility in it all is that we got to do it at all..

Anyways i believe in the human mind, i believe we would get there, 2000years ago, flying would be reserved for only the gods and their messengers, 500years ago, talking to someone at the other side of the world would be sorcery but this are normal things to us, i believe in 5000 years would be able to get to Alpha centauri in about 3hrs...

I too think there is no limit to what we can achieve, so coming years will see a huge leap in human space travels and exploration that what we are doing now might look like a joke.

Many planets might be colonized, people will go to other planets for holidays and massive structures in orbit round many bodies in our solar system would even be home to many..

Christianity Etc › Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(op): 7:36am On Nov 20, 2015

AkunneObinna:
The question atheist ask is "how do you know there is a God, can you prove it?" Can you prove he doesn't?

We call this burden of proof reversal, the one who makes a claim is supposed to prove the actuality of his claim not the one who doubts it.

Ok there is a giant red cow orbiting neptune now, can you prove there isn't?

The most feeble of all answers and evidence comes from the believes, but then again we are not bothered that others don't believe in the existence of a Supreme being, we are not persuaded to prove to the unbelievers that we aren't fools or ignorant. Rather we are baffled that there are people that believe there is no God.

Oh many of you go about threatening unbelievers how your deity is going to burn them for not believing it. . Many sell of your deities not only to be childish but egositic.

Nature itself points to the existence of a supreme being. Everything does, even the intelligence and beauty of man. Because a child aspires to be a doctor at 12 a nurse at 14 the president at 18 and ends up studying agriculture in the university does not mean those aspirations are void or mere chasing of the wind, it doesn't imply that fulfillment of dreams do not exist. Because we have different believes of the existence of different ultimate and only existing true being, doesn't mean that one does not exist.

You know what this is? this is like me saying.. the orbit of neptune points to the existence of the red cow. . . Nature points to no humanoid speaking it into existence.

Natural complexity and manifestation stems from diverse reactions of diverse elements . .

this is one of the weakest line of arguement people always pull out...

Most of the things you mentioned are true, man always gives excuses for his inability, but that's doesn't dispute the existence of a supreme being.

I didn't intend it to be you made it so.

the simple truth is your beliefs have no weight on reality, you believe there is a humanoid being somewhere that has anger issues but created the universe is just your belief it doesn't make it true.

If you want to assert a being then you have to substantiate that claim and not pull the weak argument above claiming the diversity of natural interactions is the work of your deity, that is another claim

1 Corinthians 1:22-23
For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom;
23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness

Oh the bible, i cannot fathom why you as a 21st century being still revolve your thinking around and ancient book that thinks satyrs and dragons are real whose doctrines addressed a specific ancient society and so cannot be a basis of 21st century ethic or you bolt yourself down a past we are ahead of.

Well that is the choice of the individual..

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Politics › Re: If You Are Igbo And Not In Support Of Biafra Say "Yea" by johnydon22(m): 7:23am On Nov 20, 2015

UyiIredia:
Igbos and Biafra sef. When would you guys realize it was a phase and grow out if it ?

I don't remember myself protesting. . . If the Igbo people feel like they want an out of the union then i am all for it..

Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 11:17pm On Nov 19, 2015

herald9:
Yea. Knew this. The major flaw of the theory was were the cloud of gas and dust came from.... No answer yet, right?

As a matter of fact the theory always accounted for such. . . According to the theory (Not Johnydon22) There was something like a rapid inflation of the singularity before the expansion began.

And afterwards the newly born Universe cooled and sub-atomic particles and then normal atoms formed (From whence you get matter **The dust and gas you pointed out) which in turn through gravity formed into stars and galaxies ...

Man have no idea what Dark energy or Dark matters are yet, that knowledge might redefine what we think we know anytime soon..

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Science/Technology › Re: The Solar System And Its Waters And Oceans by johnydon22(op): 10:59pm On Nov 19, 2015

menesheh:
One of the picture resembles a demigod

Which of them and which demiGod?

Politics › Re: If You Are Igbo And Not In Support Of Biafra Say "Yea" by johnydon22(m): 10:55pm On Nov 19, 2015

KingEbukasBlog:
@johndon22 ... nice comment ... well written . Do you think the move to actualize Biafra will instigate another civil war ?

[b]

Well its a "NO" here. . . First do Igbos really want another war?

To be honest Nigeria will not remain One if there is another war, it surely will be disintegrated by the international community should there be any again for the same Biafra or any other self determination cause .

Igbos are not ready for another war only a fool would be vying for one.

Wars are not won by the amount of soldiers you have but by ammunition (War is won by intimidation)

It has taken Igbo land almost 4 decades to recover and reach the height that we are now after the first war going for another will be an act of chronic idiocy and stupidi_ty.

There can not be war as i see it because there is no means to such move, but i think there will be violent turn outs here and there in the cause of events.

If at all there will be such a thing as Biafra, it shouldn't be bought with the price of blood of igbos or war or we will have an epileptic entity to deal with when it finally arrives.

Only a peaceful resolution can bring about desire pleasant result. . .

And for the record: The like of Nnamdi Kanu is unfit to rule a nation or we will have a kind of political, economic and administrative disaster even before anything started.. [/b]

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 10:42pm On Nov 19, 2015

menesheh:
Other stars do form on their own but planet earth was moulded by many gods. Can't you understand the simple equation.

And man thinks he is the center of the universe, having a personal relationship with the creator(s) of the universe and kill each other over who got the right creator(s)

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 10:39pm On Nov 19, 2015

herald9:
Does this confirm the big bang theory?

Edwin Hubble provided Proof for the Big bang propounded by Rev Fr Georges Lamitre..

Hubble confirmed the universe was actually expanding. space and time itself is expanding like a fabric and so all the matters on it goes along with it. . . The point or singularity where this expansion began is what science call BIG BANG..

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 10:34pm On Nov 19, 2015

menesheh:
But the witnessed birth of the new star will be so miniature because of the time frame scientists have been observed it( pictures taken btw 2009 to 2015). I tot the birth of new stars do take some millions if not billions of years

Yes that's why its called Protoplanet but i don't think it takes billions of years. . They are still in formation and their parent star is still a very young star perhaps some millions of years old.

This is the action of Gravity on Matter which defines the very cause and effect of almost every observable action in our observable universe..

The planets will accumulate more materials within period of time and gets bigger and denser ... These are more like Infants.

i.e: remember we are looking back in time considering the amount of time light from these distant points takes to reach us..

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Politics › Re: If You Are Igbo And Not In Support Of Biafra Say "Yea" by johnydon22(m): 10:24pm On Nov 19, 2015*

KingEbukasBlog:
cc : johnydon22 ... you dey with or against Biafra ?

[b] There is nothing i love more than the Igbo people so i am up for what ever makes them happy and at peace..

I have several reasons why i entertain thoughts of actualization of Biafra as a sovereign independent state..

- Nigeria as an entity is a shaky and unstable one, it was built on selfish interest of the British government to relieve Northern protectorate from the pay roll of the British treasury in management.

So the structure was not first and fore-most built on the willful unanimous agreement between all the ethnic groups involved but by just British wish and purpose.

-The violent tendency of every ethnic group against one another, the resentment and bitterness.. Competition that should brew development brought about envy and outright hatred among the tribes.

- We are not practising true federalism.. Nigerian as a federal system of government should be a home for all. An hausa man in the east should be at home as much as he is in the north, same goes for a yoruba man in the north or igbo man in the east.

But this is not the case, An igbo man in the north is made to feel like an immigrant instead of feeling like a Nigerian in Nigeria.

Ojukwu's words in Aburi comes to mind "Let us go further apart and be together than come closer together and clash" when he proposed confederal system of government .

- Unwillingness of the ethnic groups to bond with each other..

-Ethnic violence of which Igbos have mostly being victims of in many part of Nigeria

Personally i feel the need for the actualization of Biafra because this is not only an unpleasant union for every party but seems like a forced one.

It is better we go further apart and be at peace with ourselves and each other than be together and always be at each other's neck.

I support the actualization of BIAFRA Or the restructuring of the entity Nigeria this time a consensus between all the ethnic groups involved for us to tell ourselves the truth.. "To be or not to be"

if "to be" then we fuuckinng start acting like it..

But i do not support any form of violence in the actualization of Biafra or any course, Peaceful and diplomatic solutions perhaps a REFERENDUM to be sure of what the people wants.

[/b]

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 7:55pm On Nov 19, 2015

Brainaic:
Done that.

You are good bro..

Science/Technology › Re: The Solar System And Its Waters And Oceans by johnydon22(op): 7:37pm On Nov 19, 2015

[b]ASTEROIDS AND COMETS

Asteroid is a small planet-like body or can be referred to as a miniature planet if you so wish that orbit a star too..

Comets are are little spec of ice and dust that charges up when it comes into close range with the sun and emits a radiative emissions in reaction to action of solar radiation and wind on it's nucleus..

Now these two are the last on my list, it has been speculated that water has not always been on planet EARTH as we know it today..

No it used to be a dry hot planet after formation, earth's water scientist speculate came from asteroids and small part of it from comets.

So these two enter the last of my list because they have shown to be water cooperation of the system ..

Water is not a rare thing in this universe, water molecules have been found even in distant nebulae away affirming that water is a very common factor in this universe..

There are ocean-like water in comets that speed through us sometimes, notable is the Hartley 2 (Picture below) that has shown to have a whole lot of water like oceans..
So here concludes my list of our neighbouring oceans and water buddies in our planetary system.

(1)Comet
(2)Asteroid
Lalasticlala.. [/b]

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 7:07pm On Nov 19, 2015

menesheh:
Amazing

You said it bro. . . It is amazing . . Lalasticlala and seun can we see this to the promise land?

Brainiac fix the picture please, download it from the site and upload just like a normal picture.. to throw more colours to the post..

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Science/Technology › Re: Scientists Witnessed The Birth Of Planets For The First Time by johnydon22(m): 6:55pm On Nov 19, 2015

Brainaic:
I tell you. I wonder what the creationists have to say.

Cc: Johnydon22
Hahn
Platteon
SonOflucifer

I am here sir to answer your call. . . It is breathe taking and it is wonderful... What we can unravel in this universe if only we can drop our assumptions and take a peek into the void to what it can teach us.

This development have confirmed my position always when i discuss with people.

"Always agree you don't know when you lack knowledge and then strive to know through consistent study and observation.."

Now man is getting first hand the picture of how planets formed, now we have through consistent study and observation unravelled that knowledge..

Oh what this universe can teach us if only we can open up to it to teach us..

If only we could drop our assumptions and unfounded beliefs and follow the evidence where ever it leads us with humility and openness of heart, hunger to know and curiosity . . . What a much nobler cause that will be...

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by johnydon22(m): 6:38pm On Nov 19, 2015

KingEbukasBlog:
No one is playing the victim's card . I clearly said most attacked .

Most attacked mostly by EX- christians who turned atheistic... What is my business with who people who want to write something write against or which myth they choose to down write?

Oh ... Richard Dawking is the high priest of the god , Void whose other names also include Nothingness , Emptiness .

Now this is both your business and that of Richard Dawkins, has nothing to do with me and i don't expect any more mentions if he retweets another tweet again bro..

Done

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 6:34pm On Nov 19, 2015

chuna1985:
And that natural process came out of nowhere.

You can now imagine it... Since you think nature must come from somewhere..

where?

And from where did that "where" came from too? and so it spans to an infinite regress of "where's"

Natural process is nature itself and nature itself is interwoven in infinite values of universal Cause and effect...

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by johnydon22(m): 6:29pm On Nov 19, 2015

McCarlito:
A tip for atheists.....
Consider this..... If u all act and believe that there's no God and got to the end and find out there's no God afterall; thats no big deal.... And now what if u act and believe that there's no God and got to the end and find out there's God afterall; U have missed the eternal bliss...

Pascal's wager how cowardly and wreaks of dishonesty and greed... You have shown your only reason of believing in a God is because you are afraid of what it might do to you if there turn out to be one after all.

Not because you find it worthy to be believed
Not because it is a proven value
not because it is supposed to be..

But because you need eternal bliss.. First you have shown us this alleged creator you peddle is BELIEF monger ready to burn people for mere belief and unbelief.. well thats quite a childish, egoistic and chronic narcissism on the part of the alleged creator of the whole universe..

Begging feeble humans for belief or he won't give them eternal bliss.. None of you even imagine how absurd that sounds..

Lastly you believe One God remember there are up to 5,000 in the picture, pick the wrong one you are smoked

Candid Advice: Believe and Act like there's God... U have nothing to lose

Candid advice to you sir...

Be honest with yourself on why you really believe in deities... ..

-Because you find it plausible to
-Or you find it an unsure bet for an unsure means to an unsure end (In case it exists so it wouldn't smoke your ass)

Tell yourself the truth..

Done with this thread..Be good

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by johnydon22(m): 6:21pm On Nov 19, 2015

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By Johnydon22. . .

As a matter of fact i attack Islam directly more than every other religion in this section.. All my Post against theism is mostly generalized to the general theistic God concept and not one.

Islam is the only religion i always voice out against head on without mincing words..

Now i suggest you take your own advice and stop the victims card bull-crap.. and what dafuq is atheist's business with what Richard Dawkins think?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 3:52pm On Nov 19, 2015

aaronson:
To those people who would see from my point of view, its a question to ponder about, could as well be hilarious from your point of view.

The point is that you mentioned your proof, how come a question becomes proof of such assertion..?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 3:50pm On Nov 19, 2015

chuna1985:
So ur a biological organism that came out of nowhere

Two Cells met and formed a zygote.. Replicated and grew like most biological cells does.. You call that no where Biological organisms are products of nature and everything is nature now remind me what NO where is here?

Try again..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 9:26am On Nov 19, 2015

malvisguy212:
do atheists believe in First cause we called God ? NO. The atheists explanation of the universe is even embarrassing (one LUKY bounce)

Your first cause is a humanoid that doesn't have a cause itself, existed forever and then got bored and spoke everything into existence in 6 days, has a son and is begging for worship and acknowledgement....

Created earth before the sun and day and night before the sun.. You guys don't really check what you believe..

I wonder which one is atheistic universal explanation because last i checked there is nothing that serves as an atheistic explanation of anything most just subscribes to scientific explanations .. I wouldn't be surprised if you call scientific explanations atheist explanations having known you well..

There are two kinds of things: things which exist necessarily and things which are produced by some external cause.

And this external cause has no other cause? Wow am really wowed.. You don't pull out unrelated causation where you lack explanation because such assumptions doesn't answer the question.

Multi-verse is a hypothetical postulation as such it also becomes a subject of enquiry in a wider scale if proven.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 9:04am On Nov 19, 2015

malvisguy212:
God is the cause of the universe because Everything that exists has an
explanation of its existence,either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause. The ONLY explanation the universe has for it existence is God.

Sir this is not only a huge lie but a cheap one at that.. Such explanations is a religious postulation (belief) which you should have mentioned it to be.

Last i checked there is no scientific theory that asserts a humanoid speaking the universe into existence.

There are many scientific theoretical postulations on universal causality under going scientific enquiry, "God did it" is not one of them.

Gravitational singularity
Quantum fluctuation
Energy as an infinite value
Parallel or multi-verse..

Please sir when you want to make a statement, put that statement in the category it falls under because "God did it" is not even in scientific agenda but just a religious postulation (Belief)

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists and Traditionalists Come In. by johnydon22(m): 8:56am On Nov 19, 2015

Pdizzle:
The initiation stuff is just to show how much the rain making stuff is much of 'medicine' in yoruba land, any activity that can be carried outside the babalawo circle is not oogun. Most people confuse herbalists, with the real native doctors.

Well this is where belief and tradition comes into play..

For sure bro, you will see it first hand.

Alright then..You have a video?

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 8:54am On Nov 19, 2015

chuna1985:
There's God ooo. Because there's no way we all appeared here by mistake.

Last i checked nobody ever asserted anybody got here by mistake, natural interactions are no mistake but a reacting action of interacting values..

Just that for reasons best known to God, He's unknowable.

This is a contradiction... If God is unknowable, there is no way you can ever know there is any... So same thing you asserted is unknowable is the same thing you assert to know... Quite funny..

Thats why i thibk God is not a physical entity. He's the spirit force called life. He dwells inside all of us.

Life as we know it is as a result biological metabolisms in us as biological organisms. . . So i take it you mean LIFE which is a result of biological metabolism is God?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 8:49am On Nov 19, 2015

Gayjesus:
I know some people may throw out their toys on this issue but I am firmly in the " there is no God " camp

To me an agnostic atheist, i treat the "God postulation" like just another unproven hypothesis out there.

First when people say God there is need to understand what they mean by it..

If by God they mean a kind of theistic God concept or deistic, Humanoid, mansion living deity that loves to be worshipped everyday, vomits or spoke everything into existence in a whim.

Is allegedly the creator of the whole universe but loves burnt animal sacrifices or looks for people that masturbates.

then i don't believe such an anthropomorphical entity, it is as implausible as it is childish.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really A God? by johnydon22(m): 8:42am On Nov 19, 2015

aaronson:
Stroll in, grabs mic.

Sir, There is no such thing as God or imaginary friend, my signature should further explain more.

My Proof---- If God took a break for one day and the Devil rules that day, will you still be safe?

This so called proof is so laughable... Read it again bro..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists and Traditionalists Come In. by johnydon22(m): 8:39am On Nov 19, 2015

Pdizzle:
Thanks johny. This ATR arguements always come to a point of 'see before i believe'.

Actually ATR like every other belief in this world has to do with conviction and the voodoo and juju part is independent of the fundamental traditional belief.

So whether one believes in juju and voodoo it has nothing to do with belief in ATR at least my own Igbo traditional belief i am familiar with and have studied..

But if you really want to see i could link you up.

I will be glad to study these things and unravel the simple physics behind them and you will see its not all that special like i showed with the rain-making ..

The case of human dissappearance still not clear to science, for now I'll term it supernatural.

I am sure i have never seen a scientific patent addressing people disappearing or asserting there have been any..

We have only seen go behind a cloth or something disappear kind of trick...

So i don't believe such claims until proven

Thunderbolt has nothing to do with lightening, it is called 'Magun' in yoruba, it's a form of adultery control technique, where a supposed adulterous woman cross over a jazzed broomstick unknowingly, and the cheating patner dies when next they have sex. I serve in a rural area and this one is real, we were even specially warned about it.
What do you think about it.

Hahahahaha sounds quite funny, i have seen heard of such beliefs and i have noticed it's mere rural superstition whereby the women are coerced into faithfulness by such fearful threats.

Unrelated death cases are claimed to be the result of it, how would you know if anybody is cheating with the woman or anybody that dies then automatically is the one the woman is cheating with... thats quite shallow.

Well like all beliefs it has to do with the psychological tilt of the believer..

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists and Traditionalists Come In. by johnydon22(m): 8:28am On Nov 19, 2015

Pdizzle:
I meant you have to be an initiate before you become a babalawo in yoruba land i.e You undergo special rites to get welcomed into their midst and allowed to practice.

Well thats for the babalowo cult, it still has nothing to do with our African traditional beliefs in general...i pointed out it has to be for minor cults

I know initiations is on different level, what I'm saying is that most rain makers are not even initiates in the babalawo cult.

Yes the science is a simple case of chemical reaction, so initiate or not it will work for you if you get it right..

If you really want to see someone dissappear, i can hook you up. Lol

Why not.. mind you i don't need cover cloth disappear kind of magic trick... i want .. face to face i deh look you disappear type..

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