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 Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 7:11pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Yeah Voyager 1 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 7:05pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog:Oh Bumba creation story actually sounds ridiculous to you?  Now you are getting there.…Now you know how both the Enuma elis and the Genesis story sounds God in igbo language ? Hahaha you don't really know much about the Igbo religion anyway would blame it on your Christian background.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukwu Ptah of egypt The point remains you asked for uncreated creator Gods... Ptah and Yahweh shares a similarity tho... Created everything by talking.. lol.. Means God I suppose In Semitic lingual but refers also the supreme deity of Canaanite pentheon .... See it confirms what I said . One God different concepts Lmao.. So every uncreated deity of every culture now is the same as Yahweh You need to make up your mind cus Sango is not Amadioha.. You asked for uncreated deities and you got them cus i just saw you wanted to bully teempakguy with Allah and Yahweh he threw in knowing both are of the same Abrahamic descent.. others i mentioned predates both Abrahamic deities or differs in cultural origin 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 6:39pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Bumba of kuba Chukwu of Igbo religion Ptah of egypt El of the canaanite religion. I can count up to 20 of such uncreated creators in different cultures ... 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 6:27pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Lol.. Its the New Horizon space probe, not a manned mission |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 6:22pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 6:44pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: I have watched original NASA released videos on the Apollo mission, there wasn't no multiple light source unless reflection can be termed another light source. Mind you Nasa does a simulation before embarking on any mission and what you might have seen might be a picture of such simulation.. a radiation belt which a Nasa officer was quoted saying passing through it is yet impossible,The Van Allen radiation belt is like an umbrella of charged particles surrounding the earth, this particle possess very high radiative charge and so dangerous to human exposure. It was discovered in 1950s and was one of the main obstacles man had to overcome in moon trips.. The thing is the Belt is not impassable asin cannot be passed, actually it can the danger is exposing a human to high radiation and it is more than dangerous. After many research of which Van Allen himself also contributed to, it was deducted that at the speed the probes would possess the lining of the space craft was enough protection. Van allen radiation belt is not an impassable shield but rather just a shield of charged particles .. the high radiation is the problem not the shield. SPEED was the solution.. the flying flag. The moon is almost like a vacuum with gravitational pull relatively low.. The flag was not fluttering in reaction to a wind or anything but rather to it's own weight. Take for instance when you touch an X-ray film, it flutters ... This was the same effect the moon environment had on the flag, mind you a pole had to be crossed horizontally to keep the flag up. The flag was not fluttering in reaction to wind but rather reaction to the effect of the astronauts were lending on it because they were fixing the flag and touching it. If it starts fluttering in the moon environment it would continue for a little more time.. Could give you a video of a space walk and you will see strings were also fluttering, this is not wind.. fabrics are more like an X-ray film.material in zero G.. There was no stars visible too. Conspiracy theories really went delusional and ignorant on this one. Cameras capture stars in relation to their power, the cameras used on the moon were rarely 33MM cameras and the light from the stars were too dim to be captured remember an even more brighter light source the sun was just around the corner.. it was impossible to capture the dim light of stars with an opposing brighter light working against it using relatively small power camera. The astronauts also took a UV picture which captured the stars, they don't always mention this one right? try capturing the night sky with your phone bro, you would rarely see one star in the picture depends on the magnitude of your phone's camera. I wil add a picture of a space walk, tell me if you see stars. I got the video on Youtube. Many things were mentioned which indicate the mission was staged I have seen many of them 2 Likes 1 Share
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 5:45pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Yes i think man really did and there have been 6 of such missions . . . The Apollo missions are factual and satellites have captured images of the Apollo sites I have seen some of the conspiracy theory videos you might have watched and i would like you to bring the points they proposed so both of us can analyse them and reach a conclusion.. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by johnydon22(m): 5:27pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 5:48pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: It does or you are begging it to be.... Evolution implies gradual change . Don't forget in Biological Evolution it implies gradual change in relation to reaction with natural element. Now in the iterative model of software development , the process involves development by specifying and implementing just part of the software . The process is repeated whereby a new version of the software is produced for each cycle of the model . In Human Evolution , there is gradual change and a version - homo erectus , homo habilis etc - is produced during this process . You see like i told you before, you and many atheists on this board don't really have a clue on evolutionary mechanism. Seeing this one would deduct that evolution theory asserts a chainlike modification of trait but thats is not the case. The evolutionary mechanism is more like a web, branches of species relating to natural environment and factors. Interactions between these species and mutation and then natural selection leading to extinction and dominance of a surviving branch. When building a house . You have your building plan whatever design you want is done by the builders who build according to the plan . After the work is done , the house is supposed to look like whatever is drawn on paper . The design on paper is a product of the mind and the work done is an action of the mind The problem here is that a house doesn't modify and become a 2storied building if you made a bungalow initially.. Reconciling inanimate objects to natural Raw-actions is as flawed as comparing a plastic flower to a real one. What does it imply , there is a goal you want to achieve , you have your blue print and whatever method is used to achieve this does not preclude the existence of the mind that begot it . The problem here is that in evolutionary assertion it does not stop, it keeps going in relation to the actions of more factors on the subject . . So can we conclude that God did it through evolution ? And natural processes like natural selection were supposedly the builders God employed to achieve the design of life forms ? Ok this is funny.... Am not really sure you understand what natural selection is because it sounds more like you think natural selection is a thing .. Maybe an angel ? 5 Likes 3 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 3:13pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
neoapocalypse:I no know oo, No wonder she called me Sis  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists and Traditionalists Come In. by johnydon22(m): 2:58pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 3:15pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Pdizzle: This is the same thing Plaetton was saying or does it make more sense if you put it your own way? You could say Inexplicable and i would put YET... Because as long as such phenomenon manifests in this confine of nature it can be measured if checked and it's actuality ascertained if studied. If you take an Electric bulb back in time like 234BC people would term it a supernatural occurrence or if you fly a jet .. The things we dub SUPERnatural can be deducted to be Natural manifestations that eludes our expectations of a Natural occurrence and so takes a SUPER tilt.. That all lies in our own inability to grasp the tenets of such NATURAL phenomenon. How does quantum physics explain 'kanako', a kind of jazz our forefathers use to walk very long distances, and it actually shortens the journey. Personally i do not believe this your assertion, Perhaps a demonstration? Then we can understand it's mechanisms. It is also ok for me to point out that there is a theoretical point in space/time where gravitational singularity runs in a spinning warped motioned wrapping the fabrics of space and time around it thereby creating a tunnel-like point that you can lead to another part of Space/time, alternate universe or ahead of time... Its called a wromhole or Einstein rosen bridge. This is a theoretical postulation alongside blackholes by the theory of relativity, Now blackholes have been observed to be actual natural manifestations. Wormholes and Whites holds still remain theoretical and mathematical predictions until observed in fact. Difference between science and superstition; I don't see any scientists claiming blackholes are spirity manifestations and not natural According to the bolded, does that still make you an atheist? You are mistaken... Atheists do not mean one who don't believe in spirity stuffs...someone can believe in spirity stuffs and still is an atheist. Atheists simply is one who don't believe in Gods.. 5 Likes 6 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists and Traditionalists Come In. by johnydon22(m): 2:45pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 3:05pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
[b]First of all i will approach this from the perspective of my own native traditional religion and that is Igbo Traditional Religion.. First i will start by correcting the wrong impressions you have on these religions because obviously you seem to have swallowed what you were told about these religions. -African traditional Religion (Igbo religion) is henotheistic and in the main context takes a Deistic or in another context can be given a pantheistic tilt in the sense that it asserts One Supreme Deity In the Igbo religion known as Chukwu. This deity is unknown, nobody knows what it is, nobody can comprehend that Chukwu. Nobody knows it's features, neither does it speak to anyone, neither does it have a priest, have a shrine or demands worship... It is just some form of universal unifying infinite power unknown to man which can be referred to as a representation of the universe in entirety. The other deities which you mentioned here to be worshipped in this ATR are intermediaries (Small deities) The main concept is a lone single universal force.. Looking at these intermediaries it is not so hard to find that these deities are personifications of certain natural elements in relation to their effects on human life. E.g in Igbo religion... We have Igwekala (Amadioha) ... God of thunder Ani- Goddess of land Iyi -Goddess of the river Fijioku- God of yam Ekwensu - God of tricks and trade .. And so goes on to numerous other natural elements and manifestations personified with anthropomorphical attributes. Lastly in a personal scale the igbo religion asserts personal Gods peculiar to every individual called CHI... this Chi is incharge of everything that happens to the individual and in my own understanding CHI is an anthropomorphical personification of FATE. Note - African Traditional Religion is Henotheism (Asserts an unknown God) but recognize existence of other deities (gods) -African traditional Religion do not necessarily comprise Voodoo and Juju mysticism. - African Traditional Religion has many unfounded superstitions, myths and legends buttered into the very heart of these beliefs. Mysticism is African traditional religion is a form of Natural Science whereby people manipulate nature using determined natural components.. In igbo it is called Odinani.. E.g- Rain Making ----> You may stand here to argue that Rain making is a supernatural event but it is just manipulation of natural elements through other known natural elements to ensure a reaction of these elements to get a desired result. Rain making involves burning of a particular type of dried leaf near the desired vicinity (This is a traditional means of cloud seeding, in this modern time application of Silver Iodide to a cloud will release the H2 the cloud hoards) So it appeals to simple logic that the smoke of these dried plants has the same effect on clouds just like silver iodide. Someone arguing this is a phenomenon above natural manifestation is sadly mistaken.. What we call supernatural occurrence are just natural reactions we dont know how there are achieved, have no explanations for, contradicts our expectation or just don't understand yet But in actuality phenomenas that manifest in this natural world suggest there are measurable and therefore suggests their actuality can be ascertained if looked into. Blackholes breaks almost all the laws of physics we have, this does not make Blackholes supernatural phenomenas, No it shows that natural manifestations do not have one way of manifestation, it is diverse, it is numerous and it can be random. An atom can be in two places at a time, this is not anything supernatural.. It is all but supernatural.. Quantum spookiness has shown us that that nature is far more crazier than we think. So personally to me----> These claims of spooky mystic events imbedded in the very heart of some mystical manifestations are not independent of natural interactions, there are just natural phenomenons we have no idea how there were reached. Of course i have my limits in the aspects of these claims i take serious; Like Rain making, Traditional Medication and so on.. But when it comes to some of the claims like Spirit Children, Ghosts.. These ones i make out to be childish superstition made out by fearful minds in the light of unexplained or unexpected events. Was watching Discovery Channel just right now and Some primitive tribe that lives in the very heart of an untouched forest world still thinks Illnesses are as a result of Spirit attacks. Such superstitions are what i reject in the face of these local beliefs. For your case of Christian, Hindu and even Islam miracle claims, Prophecies and so forth is not far from mere hoax, reverse psychology and mere tricks. I have watched Youtube videos of Buddhist monk levitating.. (If you find out the mechanism behind it, you will call yourself an idiot for first staring in awe at the wondrous sight.) Muslims would dub simple cases of Pareidolia to be miracles of Allah, or Christians seeing Jesus and Mary in bread toasts.. (Pareidolia is a phenomenon whereby you see familiar figures on an unrelated medium...Like the Face of Mars ) Christian miracle claims are hilarious, Haven't we always noticed that these Miracles only works on cases that can still go anyway. . . Malaria got healed, stomach ache got healed, she vomited in Church etc.... Flimsy feeble cases of Placebo. Why are we not seeing An Amputated limb grown back? (Or is that impossible  )Until they start showing us things like Amputated clean limbs grown back such claims as feeble miracles will always remain childish and laughable. More so in the Case of the famous Faith Healer Benny Hinn who was flown on a helicopter to a specialist hospital when he fell ill but he is claiming to heal others.. ( -Prophecies ---> Aaaaaah very wonderful... A prophecy can be anything, you can pick up any word of the Gilgamesh Epic now and relate to any event on earth now and Voila we have a fulfilled prophecy. Or pick up any phrase from Nostradamus's compilation, check and you must see an event to relate it with and Booom!! we have a prophecy. This is just what we are seeing the prophecy claims of both Christianity and Islam.. "I can as well tell you now that before this year runs out you will find what you seek" This word bears no weight on reality but you might find a job, find a girl and Booom!!! Johnydon22's prophecy was legit. Or maybe i can tell you that A white ram will attack a black ram sometime in the future" France attacks ISIS ...Gbam.. my prophecy is fulfilled.. France is the white RAM and ISIS the black. In all these claims i see nothing to suggest there are anymore than childish lay outs that can only slap the gullible. Lastly to correct the final impression. You seem to make Atheists out to be those that do not believe in supernatural Claims.. Voodoo, spirity mumbo jumbo and stuffs. No there are many atheists who believe these stuffs, belief in spirity stuffs is very independent of Belief in God or Gods. One can believe in Spirity Voodoo stuffs and yet don't believe in God (Still an atheist) One can believe in God and even Christianity or islam or ATR and not believe in spirity stuffs. Please atheists are not people that do not believe in Voodoo juju things, No we have many atheists who do. Atheists simply means lack of belief in any God (Deity) Though many atheists tend to rely sorely on scientific explanations and some go as far as discarding such claims. I am of the opinion from the tricks i have seen that these are just events we do not know how there are achieved or how it happened or contradicts our expectations of a natural event. But these to me are all manifestations of nature and anything that manifests in the confines of nature is measurable at least in a quantum scale. Anyone who asserts something that manifests in a natural scale and then asserts it immeasurable or independent of natural confines is either lying, hallucinating or plain idiotic.. Nature has no one way of manifestation we should always bear that in mind.. [/b] 8 Likes 6 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 1:38pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheist Right On Paris Attacks? by johnydon22(m): 10:55am On Nov 16, 2015 |
plaetton: Exactly, it is the people who has these Gods in their minds determines how it behaves and it's characteristics.. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheist Right On Paris Attacks? by johnydon22(m): 10:32am On Nov 16, 2015 |
wordcat: People tend to resort to prayer when they are helpless and as such do nothing thinking they are doing something. The question was a valid one: Why should any God be prayed to over a tragedy it couldn't stop.. Was it aware but unable to help? Then it nullifies the Omniscient claim Was it able to help but not aware? Then it nullifies the all powerful claim. Was it aware, able to and willing to help? then why didn't it.. People tend to rely on abstract concepts for hope, tend to rely on this abstract concepts to make a psychological pillow in their predicament. One can understand their need to hope but shouldn't we be able to relate to other people's tragedies without people thanking deities in their mind for it. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheist Right On Paris Attacks? by johnydon22(m): 10:12am On Nov 16, 2015 |
osesology: I believe God had more obligations towards the people who were killed in his name over there in Paris than snooping to check what someone types on nairaland looking for who to have mercy on. This God sounds like he has a misplaced priority.. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: NASA, How Far? by johnydon22(m): 10:01am On Nov 16, 2015 |
NASA said nothing. that you actually believed and was expecting such thing shows you need to start now to re-evaluate what you believe because you have only betrayed your stark gullibility... 4 Likes 4 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 11:30pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
erusen: I am atheistic but in all honesty i have no problem with religions or their beliefs.. i am only against. - What ever kills people or encourages abandonment and neglect of our planet. -Teach superstition and myths as immutable truth. -Indoctrinate children to primitive beliefs of the past. -Discourage human curiosity and enquiry.. -Chastise scientific findings to uphold unfounded beliefs.. and many more... We are neglecting where we are and what we have to chase after wishful shadow.. we are killing and maiming real and visible humans to please invisible Gods.. Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind but like i said, its not possible as long as there are people who make profits from wars.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Terrorists Did Not Attack Paris; Muslims Did! by johnydon22(m): 10:52pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
tartar9:Then i believe it's obvious you have serious issues.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 10:50pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Blakjewelry:No one was expecting it to fun... The i international space station would be fun for short term but not for long term.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Terrorists Did Not Attack Paris; Muslims Did! by johnydon22(m): 10:48pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
tartar9: I do not apologize for my posts that negates Islam neither will i ever hold back to lay out my opinion on the muslim faith when ever i deem fit. so i ask... to you any posts that is against Islam is automatically igbo? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 10:33pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Blakjewelry: I think the only obstacle to man staying on Mars is vulnerability to solar wind... For oxygen the habitats would be a closed one with chamber to split co2 to make O2 plants can be grown using either hydroponic or aeroponic method and outside exhibition must be done under a protective oxygen suite. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Terrorists Did Not Attack Paris; Muslims Did! by johnydon22(m): 10:28pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
tartar9:I am Igbo and i don't recall having any issue with your ethnic group which ever it is. the op has not mentioned to be igbo here, how comes you brought igbo into it... whats your problem with igbos |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 10:17pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
sonofananimal: I think the problem lies in our indifference in the face of scientific mines ready to be explored. Religion- most blacks are incurably religious and many of them think science is a tool of the devil to destroy their beliefs. |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 10:10pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
erusen: its on right now on my t.v CNN france going to conduct air strikes on Isis.. you see both politics, religion and greed are the problems of mankind not just religion... the world will never know peace as long as there are people who make profits from wars. people making money out of the misfortunes of others... to me, the main problem with humanity is Greed of a few... |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 9:42pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
erusen: I never engaged in any religious war on this thread, he made a joke and i replied back.. So you can't see the joke in those comments? |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 9:11pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: ISIS, BVN , Microchip And The Endtime Warnings by johnydon22(m): 8:03pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Yes bro it is End time things please may i send you my bank account so you can send me your money cus am sure you have no need for them.. Just wait for the lord to come.. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: The Solar System And Its Waters And Oceans by johnydon22(op): 7:45pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
PLUTO Ok pluto is one of our newest babies in terms of surprises right now in our solar system.. Just few months back New Horizon Space probe reached Pluto and has given us wonderful information about this Dwarf golden glory. Now we have a better picture, a more detailed land scape than we used to ... From the information reaching us Pluto has icy mountains and water on it which gives us more slaps to the face on the wonderful discoveries and wealth of information this baby holds for us.. https://1.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Pluto-Main-4.jpg 1 Like 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 7:21pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
karleone: Honestly i do not understand the problem with us humans, we discriminate each other based on Colours which has shown to be a trait acquired in coincide to a geographical region of origin. We are all different manifestation of the same species... [img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCLilFYiJdoVtPR2ju5SuJr-EN90nQgP6gdUURzSkgJXYuv-6jH8NPgIs[/img] I don't understand how we appreciate diverse colours and differences in other species as beauty but when it comes diversity in the colours of our species it becomes and object of discrimination and division.. 5 Likes 5 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 7:11pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
sisisioge: Seriously bro.. but i think you would be used to it because you would have been born to meet it as a norm |
| Culture › Re: Do Mini-skirts "Encourage Rape"? by johnydon22(m): 7:10pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
[b] Let us not blame the wrong thing for the inability of some people to restrain themselves from showing a beast-like sexual tendency. Let us be honest with our self, In this society where the ethics involve application of clothing especially for women who have been turned to nothing more than sexual icons in this society. There are other societies that do not attach much importance to female clothing nor over sexualize a woman's body to sate the raging egoism of the male folks. Why are there more rape cases in this our society where we wear clothes than those societies where they walk almost unclad. We have always been taught that a woman's body is dangerous to man, that it will lead man to sin But let us be blunt here, A woman's body is not dangerous to any man, a woman's body will not lead you to sin. Yes a woman's body might be sexually attractive to men as a natural instinct but lets not forget a man's body is also sexually attractive to women. A woman's body is not the main reason people rape women, that someone is too stup_id to stop themselves from doing stupi_d things is their own responsibility. it is not the woman's fault. Because the last i checked when a Gay man rapes a fellow man nobody blames it on the victim's clothing. Why then do we do that when it involves the female folks... This is an act of chronic egoism.. Male seeking to impose their own idea of decency on women[/b] 5 Likes 3 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 7:00pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
adjoviomole: There are many religious books that predates the bible too. Epic of Gilgamesh Enuma Elis Such superstition has no room in Scientific enquiry unless you dabble into Pseudoscience. And please Evolution has nothing to do with Existence or Inexistence of any God. I am not an evolutionist but i am starting think you don't even know what evolution is about. - And please everybody who is an evolutionist is not an atheist. -There are many theists even your fellow Christians who are evolutionists.. Evolution has nothing to do with Theism or being atheistic...it is a scientific branch of enquiry. And yes i am an agnostic atheist.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: What The Earth Would Look Like If The Planets Were As Close As The Moon by johnydon22(op): 6:55pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
karleone: Bro "US" means humans, last i checked both white, blacks, asiatics, mongoloids, latinos, caucasians are all humans. . |
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