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Mindfulness:[b]The thing is, there is high chance that a man named Yehushua existed in the Roman Israeli outpost of 1st century because that name is a very common name in Israeli, it is same thing as Joshua. Same way there may have existed an outstanding warlord, a war machine and a talented hand in fighting in ancient greek named Achilles son of Pelius leader of the myrmidons, many archeological finds suggest so.... But historicity knows how to detect fables inside a story.. They may be an Achilles and a Jesus in fact i lean on the side that they are both historical but when you tell me Achilles mother was a Nymph (Goddess), His body cannot be pieced or Jesus was born of a Virgin and a God father yahweh, he strolls on water and put back chopped off ears instantly then that is what modern historicity regard as pure Fables or outright fabricated myth. It's like me saying Mindfull exist but he has wings. . . That mindfull exist is a fact but that Mindfull has a wing is pure fabricated and outrightly exaggerated fable by me.. I think they may be a historical Jesus, many of them actually if you check the records of 1st century Jesus'[/b] |
mustymatic:So according to you not believing in a God means wickedness? |
mustymatic:Bingo, you see why i called you Genius? You totally killed it it is clear you don't even have any idea of what you are yapping. . . Now take a little trip to google, find the meaning of Atheism then come back lets see if you can have a little constructive upgrade!!!...When you are done with that then pop in so you will be taken on a little trip to defend your Allah ![]() |
chalantmike:[b]Am not sure you lot even have the slightest idea what freewill is. There is no option or end point in freewill, there is no destination in freewill what ever you decide is what it is.. If a destiny has been determined for you and you can do nothing to escape it then there is no freewill not even in the least sense because everything you do must conform to that destiny. If everything has been planned or foreknown by an omniscient being who can never be wrong then there is no freewill because everything must go according to the plan or foreknowledge. If there is freewill, freedom to choose your own path and your own goal and your own destination then there is nothing like predetermined destiny. Your destiny is yours and yours alone to determine and your destiny is what ever you say it is. Now you lot are here ringing about a God who has destined billions to burn in a literal fire, he destined them to be from other religion and so as to burn them in hell forever and this he did long before they were created, creating people who didnt ask to be created just to roast them in hell forever because he has predestined them for hell... It can never get sicker and more stupendous than this. Proudly harbouring such vile, evil and barbaric concept in the guise of a God and expect any rational human not to refute such ludicrous ideas. . [/b] |
mustymatic:Bravo Genius!!! Now define Atheism |
tartar9:Sometimes i wonder if you people even read what you write.. Someone has freewill but yet will only act according to Allah's will. do you even know what freewill is? If your actions must conform to Allah's will then there is no freewill, Allah has already willed billions to burn in a literal fire forever, Imagine the type of barbarism you lot harbour in your mind and are ok with it |
tartar9:Wow that's nice. . .Meaning that Allah just created them so as to throw them in hell, he has willed them to hell even before creating them and there is nothing they can do to escape that fate because what ever allah predestines is surely gonna happen..... So Allah just brings people who didn't ask to be created into existence just to throw them in hell this shows allah off to be psychotic, barbaric, sadistic and retarded freak you know |
tartar9:Ok so Allah already knows the people he will send to hell before creating them right? |
It's a wonderful beautiful experience to be part of the excruciating but yet wonderful stage of being a father and raising kids. I can't wait to be a father, so many things to show them... |
menesheh:And many of them are mumuciously resorting to an even more absurd religion, Islam. . Isn't that the height mumucity seeing the devastating effects such dangerous dogma as Islam can cause in a state. If Nigeria was all christian, we wouldn't have been facing this terrorism we are facing now, i will pick Chrisitianity over islam any day at least Christians mostly have low tendency of collective violence and extreme intolerance like killing apostates or extreme misogyny... These people self jumping from frying pan into fire.. Hinduism, Christianity, Taoism, Buddism, Confucianism and ATR are far better religions than islam in terms of violence and idiotic intolerance. And Christianity also has very cool music and vibes |
Mindfulness:Exactly, this is the point .... I honestly love this. And perhaps when you are dead humanity will also remember you in good light as they remember those ones.. Another living example is Dalalai Lama... I too is of same ideology too Like i have been trying to tell this girl on the other thread "If you want good to be in the world then be the good in the world |
An2elect2:Hahahahahahahaha quite funny. The last time i checked you don't even know or understand or is sure of that's which you think exists that why you believe it by faith. Isn't it funny how nobody needs faith to know that earth exists but all of you needs faith (strong mostly emotional conviction or wishful hope) that a God exists. . I wonder what complex things you obviously think you know that i have not seen a thousand times over. Complex things, lmao when you can't even develop a personal independent ideology but clutching on what you were indoctrinated into as a kid. You can bring on the complex things, i might even forgo my atheistic views for once and we will discuss Christian theology like two Christians |
Gombs:Nice one bro!!! Quite a plausible explanation!!! But i think seating on the hill side (on top of it) not the base should be the case. But the wind direction should propagate the sound much better to the direction it is going |
An2elect2:[b]Ok so the world is doomed by Yahweh and Jesus....lmao....Muhammed also thinks the world is doomed by allah.. When i look around me, the world is filled with Good people as well as bad ones, the activities of man wars, deforestations, greed, division, hatred and all other disturbing actions and emotions are diminishing the planet. We destroy visible nature, harm real and visible humans, discriminate and hate humans that we all know that are real in order to revere and worship unfounded invisible Gods....We neglect the earth which is real in order to chase greedily after another life, which is like neglecting substance for shadow. In all these it is very obvious to me that the threat to this planet is not Gods coming down to destroy it, Angry wrathful psychotic deities, Zombies, Aliens attacking it or all other fictional or mythological brouhaha you may come up with. The only threat to this planet is Humans, Humans are a threat to both themselves and the planet we live in. Like i said earlier; There is good in the world, if you want proof of that just be the good in the world...[/b] |
An2elect2:Lol... Doomed by what? |
rheether:Morality as i know it is doing the right thing no matter what you are told, religion on the other hand is doing what you are told no matter what is right. That is the problem with islam today, they are sheepishly doing as a long dead 5th century arab man said instead of looking inwards independently to their will to ascertain what they themselves find to be right and not what a dead man said. They have subjected themselves to the primitive savage-like way of living when the world has developed pass that level... it is simply a chronic level of idiocy. Just like what we are also seeing in northern Nigeria. . We can only hope with education more people will learn to cultivate a healthy independent pyschological stability to determine what they themselves personally see to be right and wrong and not what their religious book said.. |
An2elect2:Humanity is like an ocean, that some part of the ocean is dirty doesn't mean the whole ocean is dirty. If you want good to be in the world then be the good in the world |
menesheh: Thou shall not rape too Not rape and pay her bride price and subject her to living with her rapist all her life... |
tartar9:Yes i agree and that is because he is dead. . Dead men don't know anything because they no longer exist.... So Muhammed certainly do not know that You or Dekatron exists because muhammed is a long dead man |
Hahahahahahaha so it's more like you have a PERSONAL experience with Jesus right? |
tartar9:So Muhammed needs you to treat his mess for him? . . . You do know he is a dead man |
This is so sad, so disheartening. This is what we get when people take violence as the solution to problems.… Innocent children met with the effect of wars at a very innocent young age that is as a result of the idiotic selfish political and religious ideologies of men. Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind. #Join_Me #Say_No_To_Violence #Say_No_To_Wars |
KingEbukasBlog:Hahahahahahahaha you see my point? I never insulted or attacked anybody but rather the idea itself. . . Ideas are meant to be criticized, disagreed on, argued on and even ridiculed. Again i repeat you all should stop the ad hominems the post just showed i never attacked anybody, my attack was on the ideology. I recognize your right to hold a belief (ideology) and i respect that but telling me to respect or bear the ideology myself when thrown at me is a different story.. Now i hope it is clear the difference between attacking a belief and attacking a person ... Just like the post you quoted showed "My attack was on the belief itself" So as i first stated, argue without insulting the person you are arguing with just like you guys has been doing on this thread ![]() |
Have always noticed that people who believe in destinies, that everything has been predestined and nobody can do anything to change that always look before they cross the road. Why not just cross since nothing will happen to you if you were not destined for that |
maverickboy:Its a matter of trying to tilt historical facts to match your religious perspectives. For you to make such assertions you have to show us if; Religion is a product of the society or the society is a product of religion. . |
KingEbukasBlog:Arguing against a belief or religion is not synonymous to intolerance, disagreeing with an ideology does not mean intolerance against... That misconception totally lies with you |
maverickboy:Conclusion on what exactly? That i should watch you to maul history by making assertions based on your religious tilt.. You can go ahead and bring on your explanations but be sure to get a proper rebuttal if it goes contrary to what is... |
There was a light flimsy wooden bridge across, it was the use of displacement.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoGo5_IB5s&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
maverickboy:For the single fact that you have asserted Religions beget morality when the other way round is the case shows i personally have nothing more to discuss with you based on the development of human societal ethics and morality. |
KingEbukasBlog:You see i have nothing to explain to anybody, so your assertions are your responsibilities not mine. I won't even deny if i liked kobosmall's comment or not, you can think what ever you can for all i care.. Show me a thread where i entered and started insulting the person am discussing with without the person attacking my person first. I have never heard or seen an irreligious person attack my person in an argument, i had an argument with theAtheist101 the other day but there was no ad homninems on it, you guys always take arguments to mean enmity and employ unnecessary emotions into it. Shaaa na you have you mouth...Go ahead and keep swimming in this type of back to back with people on every thread, all i can say is "It is totally demeaning" |
Mindfulness:I think you misunderstood him, he is addressing the line of the fable not the teachings. I for agree with some teachings of these guys and a huge fan of such philosophies. But his assertion was based on the storyline, let me make it clearer for you to understand it. He meant "If the adam and eve story is myth, then there was no original sin and then no need for a messiah to come and die" So he was addressing the mythological antiquity not the idea of Jesus teachings.. |
maverickboy:No there is one thing you should learn from my post and that is "You need a basic lesson in history" When someone does not know that Politics and Religion are products of organized society, what then can that person assert correctly as regard these premises.. I personally have no problem with religion unless you are in jupiter only then can you claim you are not seeing the effects these religious brouhaha are having on everybody including atheists. So that an atheists retaliates by placing such absurd ideologies under scrutiny is very much in order. |
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Now define Atheism
when Hez facing the throne of Allah(SA) are u misfit even a challenge.