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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Amount Of Evidence That Would Change Your Views? by johnydon22(m): 3:14pm On Sep 07, 2015
Mindfulness:
There are historians who claim that Jesus existed and at least one other who disagrees.
[b]The thing is, there is high chance that a man named Yehushua existed in the Roman Israeli outpost of 1st century because that name is a very common name in Israeli, it is same thing as Joshua.

Same way there may have existed an outstanding warlord, a war machine and a talented hand in fighting in ancient greek named Achilles son of Pelius leader of the myrmidons, many archeological finds suggest so.... But historicity knows how to detect fables inside a story..

They may be an Achilles and a Jesus in fact i lean on the side that they are both historical but when you tell me Achilles mother was a Nymph (Goddess), His body cannot be pieced or Jesus was born of a Virgin and a God father yahweh, he strolls on water and put back chopped off ears instantly then that is what modern historicity regard as pure Fables or outright fabricated myth.

It's like me saying Mindfull exist but he has wings. . . That mindfull exist is a fact but that Mindfull has a wing is pure fabricated and outrightly exaggerated fable by me..

I think they may be a historical Jesus, many of them actually if you check the records of 1st century Jesus'
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Christianity Etc › Re: UK Churches Lose 4 Million Worshippers by johnydon22(m): 2:56pm On Sep 07, 2015
mustymatic:
You think atheism includes bn smart, ungodliness is,what Google ?
I believe in God you don't...
So according to you not believing in a God means wickedness?
Christianity Etc › Re: UK Churches Lose 4 Million Worshippers by johnydon22(m): 2:05pm On Sep 07, 2015
mustymatic:
It is I who asked first. but since you asked; ungodliness, wickedness
Bingo, you see why i called you Genius? You totally killed it grin

it is clear you don't even have any idea of what you are yapping. . . Now take a little trip to google, find the meaning of Atheism then come back lets see if you can have a little constructive upgrade!!!...When you are done with that then pop in so you will be taken on a little trip to defend your Allah smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Destiny by johnydon22(m): 2:01pm On Sep 07, 2015
chalantmike:
let me explain, no matter what man does he can escape God/nature.

This is how destiny and free will are related.
God ordained that man must "thats destiny", but at the same time he created a wide variety of things to eat, for man to pick "thats freewill".

On ur way to work, its been destined you'd get to work "destination", you can walk, jump, crawl, board a bus, follow long cut as well as short, you can decide to branch and cajole, but broz your destination is still there, you go reach am.
[b]Am not sure you lot even have the slightest idea what freewill is.

There is no option or end point in freewill, there is no destination in freewill what ever you decide is what it is..

If a destiny has been determined for you and you can do nothing to escape it then there is no freewill not even in the least sense because everything you do must conform to that destiny.

If everything has been planned or foreknown by an omniscient being who can never be wrong then there is no freewill because everything must go according to the plan or foreknowledge.

If there is freewill, freedom to choose your own path and your own goal and your own destination then there is nothing like predetermined destiny.

Your destiny is yours and yours alone to determine and your destiny is what ever you say it is.

Now you lot are here ringing about a God who has destined billions to burn in a literal fire, he destined them to be from other religion and so as to burn them in hell forever and this he did long before they were created, creating people who didnt ask to be created just to roast them in hell forever because he has predestined them for hell... It can never get sicker and more stupendous than this.

Proudly harbouring such vile, evil and barbaric concept in the guise of a God and expect any rational human not to refute such ludicrous ideas. .
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Christianity Etc › Re: UK Churches Lose 4 Million Worshippers by johnydon22(m): 1:49pm On Sep 07, 2015
mustymatic:
Your religion (atheism) nko?
Bravo Genius!!! cheesy Now define Atheism
Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Destiny by johnydon22(m): 10:43am On Sep 07, 2015
tartar9:
Allah(SAW) is omniscient He knew every single thing that will ever happen even before creation.you have your own free will but can't will to follow the straight path unless Allah so wills.
Sometimes i wonder if you people even read what you write..

Someone has freewill but yet will only act according to Allah's will. do you even know what freewill is?

If your actions must conform to Allah's will then there is no freewill, Allah has already willed billions to burn in a literal fire forever, Imagine the type of barbarism you lot harbour in your mind and are ok with it
Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Destiny by johnydon22(m): 10:31am On Sep 07, 2015
tartar9:
yes,why shouldn't He know
Wow that's nice. . .Meaning that Allah just created them so as to throw them in hell, he has willed them to hell even before creating them and there is nothing they can do to escape that fate because what ever allah predestines is surely gonna happen.....

So Allah just brings people who didn't ask to be created into existence just to throw them in hell


this shows allah off to be psychotic, barbaric, sadistic and retarded freak you know
Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Destiny by johnydon22(m): 8:24am On Sep 07, 2015
tartar9:
"But you cannot will, unless Allah wills.Verily, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-
Wise." (Qur'an 76:30)
Ok so Allah already knows the people he will send to hell before creating them right?
Jokes Etc › Re: When The Kids Start Coming: Before And After (PICS ILLUSTRATED) by johnydon22(m): 12:04am On Sep 07, 2015
It's a wonderful beautiful experience to be part of the excruciating but yet wonderful stage of being a father and raising kids.

I can't wait to be a father, so many things to show them...
Christianity Etc › Re: UK Churches Lose 4 Million Worshippers by johnydon22(m): 9:28pm On Sep 06, 2015
menesheh:
Church in Europe are collapsing speedily especially in western Europe. They are discovering that they have no reasons and justifications to believing conventional notion of a god and Christianity.
And many of them are mumuciously resorting to an even more absurd religion, Islam. . Isn't that the height mumucity seeing the devastating effects such dangerous dogma as Islam can cause in a state.

If Nigeria was all christian, we wouldn't have been facing this terrorism we are facing now, i will pick Chrisitianity over islam any day at least Christians mostly have low tendency of collective violence and extreme intolerance like killing apostates or extreme misogyny...

These people self jumping from frying pan into fire..
Hinduism, Christianity, Taoism, Buddism, Confucianism and ATR are far better religions than islam in terms of violence and idiotic intolerance.

And Christianity also has very cool music and vibes wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Amount Of Evidence That Would Change Your Views? by johnydon22(m): 2:19pm On Sep 06, 2015
Mindfulness:
Buddha and Jesus are historical figures too. Whether Jesus performed any miracles is irrelevant. Whether Ghandi, MLK and Mandela knew anything about Buddha is irrelevant. The point that I am trying to make is that all these people share a similar philosophy.
A philosophy that is based on the principles of humility, forgiveness, respect and non-violence. All these people are great examples of personified humanity, kindness and benevolence. This is what I focus on, not on whether Jesus actually could walk on water or make the dead alive.
Exactly, this is the point .... I honestly love this.

And perhaps when you are dead humanity will also remember you in good light as they remember those ones.. Another living example is Dalalai Lama... I too is of same ideology too wink

Like i have been trying to tell this girl on the other thread

"If you want good to be in the world then be the good in the world
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m):
An2elect2:
Since you do not understand simple things such as God's existence, i will be fooling myself if i even entertain the thought of you grabbing complex ones.

Have a nice day
Hahahahahahahaha quite funny. The last time i checked you don't even know or understand or is sure of that's which you think exists that why you believe it by faith.

Isn't it funny how nobody needs faith to know that earth exists but all of you needs faith (strong mostly emotional conviction or wishful hope) that a God exists. .

I wonder what complex things you obviously think you know that i have not seen a thousand times over.

Complex things, lmao when you can't even develop a personal independent ideology but clutching on what you were indoctrinated into as a kid.

You can bring on the complex things, i might even forgo my atheistic views for once and we will discuss Christian theology like two Christians wink
Christianity Etc › Re: How'd He Manage To Do Dis? by johnydon22(m): 1:58pm On Sep 06, 2015
Gombs:
It was a mountain side... He was sitting in the flow of the wind, at the base of the mountain. The wind made him audible with less effort.


Jesus was way smarter than we thought o.
Nice one bro!!! Quite a plausible explanation!!! But i think seating on the hill side (on top of it) not the base should be the case.

But the wind direction should propagate the sound much better to the direction it is going
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 1:51pm On Sep 06, 2015
An2elect2:
Just like Noah and the arch, so is God and Jesus.
[b]Ok so the world is doomed by Yahweh and Jesus....lmao....Muhammed also thinks the world is doomed by allah..

When i look around me, the world is filled with Good people as well as bad ones, the activities of man wars, deforestations, greed, division, hatred and all other disturbing actions and emotions are diminishing the planet.

We destroy visible nature, harm real and visible humans, discriminate and hate humans that we all know that are real in order to revere and worship unfounded invisible Gods....We neglect the earth which is real in order to chase greedily after another life, which is like neglecting substance for shadow.

In all these it is very obvious to me that the threat to this planet is not Gods coming down to destroy it, Angry wrathful psychotic deities, Zombies, Aliens attacking it or all other fictional or mythological brouhaha you may come up with.

The only threat to this planet is Humans, Humans are a threat to both themselves and the planet we live in.

Like i said earlier; There is good in the world, if you want proof of that just be the good in the world...
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Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 1:34pm On Sep 06, 2015
An2elect2:
You are saying nonsense this world is doomed already
Lol... Doomed by what?
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 1:33pm On Sep 06, 2015
rheether:
While paedophile Mohammed is busy Fvcking kids and under aged girls. Islam is bad and deserves hell.
Morality as i know it is doing the right thing no matter what you are told, religion on the other hand is doing what you are told no matter what is right.

That is the problem with islam today, they are sheepishly doing as a long dead 5th century arab man said instead of looking inwards independently to their will to ascertain what they themselves find to be right and not what a dead man said.

They have subjected themselves to the primitive savage-like way of living when the world has developed pass that level... it is simply a chronic level of idiocy.

Just like what we are also seeing in northern Nigeria. . We can only hope with education more people will learn to cultivate a healthy independent pyschological stability to determine what they themselves personally see to be right and wrong and not what their religious book said..
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 1:28pm On Sep 06, 2015
An2elect2:
Islam is a product of this cursed world, not the other way round

I hate islam, but the world more
Humanity is like an ocean, that some part of the ocean is dirty doesn't mean the whole ocean is dirty.

If you want good to be in the world then be the good in the world
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God’s Stance On Slavery. by johnydon22(m): 11:53am On Sep 06, 2015
menesheh:
The bible need to be re-edited to accommodate thou shall not enslave or own your fellow human as property

Thou shall not rape too


Not rape and pay her bride price and subject her to living with her rapist all her life...
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 11:47am On Sep 06, 2015
tartar9:
He(SAW) doesn't even know if an Idiot like decakron exists.
Yes i agree and that is because he is dead. . Dead men don't know anything because they no longer exist.... So Muhammed certainly do not know that You or Dekatron exists because muhammed is a long dead man
Christianity Etc › Re: ...but Jesus Is Real. by johnydon22(m): 11:34am On Sep 06, 2015
Hahahahahahaha so it's more like you have a PERSONAL experience with Jesus right? wink
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 11:31am On Sep 06, 2015
tartar9:
He(SAW) should come and face you undecided when Hez facing the throne of Allah(SA) are u misfit even a challenge.
So Muhammed needs you to treat his mess for him? . . . You do know he is a dead man
Islam › Re: Islam Have Failed The World. by johnydon22(m): 11:02am On Sep 06, 2015
This is so sad, so disheartening. This is what we get when people take violence as the solution to problems.… Innocent children met with the effect of wars at a very innocent young age that is as a result of the idiotic selfish political and religious ideologies of men.


Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind.

#Join_Me #Say_No_To_Violence #Say_No_To_Wars
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This A Real Mad Man, Prophet Or An Anti Christ? (photos +shocking Video) by johnydon22(m): 9:54am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Disagreeing ? You described religious beliefs as "absurdities " . You derided Christians' beliefs of Christ's second coming . You have described my stance on miracles which myself have experienced as " illusion" .

Should I refresh your memory ? --> https://www.nairaland.com/2474302/most-committed-atheists-once-chtistians#3622196
Maybe the dictionary should help
tolerate :
1. to allow the existence, presence, practice, or act of without prohibition or hindrance; permit.
2. to endure without repugnance; put up with:
bigot
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
intolerant
not tolerant of views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.
When you describe beliefs as absurd and barbaric and ridicule them in a public forum like this . What should it be called ?
Hahahahahahahaha you see my point?

I never insulted or attacked anybody but rather the idea itself. . . Ideas are meant to be criticized, disagreed on, argued on and even ridiculed.

Again i repeat you all should stop the ad hominems the post just showed i never attacked anybody, my attack was on the ideology.

I recognize your right to hold a belief (ideology) and i respect that but telling me to respect or bear the ideology myself when thrown at me is a different story..

Now i hope it is clear the difference between attacking a belief and attacking a person ... Just like the post you quoted showed "My attack was on the belief itself"

So as i first stated, argue without insulting the person you are arguing with just like you guys has been doing on this threadsmiley
Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Destiny by johnydon22(m): 9:40am On Sep 06, 2015
Have always noticed that people who believe in destinies, that everything has been predestined and nobody can do anything to change that always look before they cross the road.

Why not just cross since nothing will happen to you if you were not destined for that
Christianity Etc › Re: Unbeliever Why Bother Be Good? by johnydon22(op): 9:18am On Sep 06, 2015
maverickboy:
Lastly, My assertion could be to u, but not totally wrong as far as I'm concerned. It's a matter of perspective.
Its a matter of trying to tilt historical facts to match your religious perspectives.

For you to make such assertions you have to show us if; Religion is a product of the society or the society is a product of religion. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This A Real Mad Man, Prophet Or An Anti Christ? (photos +shocking Video) by johnydon22(m): 9:14am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Dont get me wrong . If you dont like ad hominems then dont portray yourself as someone who tolerates other people's beliefs whilst your comments tell a different story . You are just inviting it .

Bash and ridicule religion nobody's wahala , but dont say "Im not a bigot" at the end cool
Arguing against a belief or religion is not synonymous to intolerance, disagreeing with an ideology does not mean intolerance against...

That misconception totally lies with you
Christianity Etc › Re: Unbeliever Why Bother Be Good? by johnydon22(op): 9:12am On Sep 06, 2015
maverickboy:
I'd have like to explain something here but it won't just be acceptable to you. And mind u, u are to haste on ur conclusion!
Conclusion on what exactly?
That i should watch you to maul history by making assertions based on your religious tilt..

You can go ahead and bring on your explanations but be sure to get a proper rebuttal if it goes contrary to what is...
Christianity Etc › Re: Shaolin Monk Walks On Water For 125 Meters, Breaking Own Record (VIDEO) by johnydon22(m): 9:06am On Sep 06, 2015
There was a light flimsy wooden bridge across, it was the use of displacement..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoGo5_IB5s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Christianity Etc › Re: Unbeliever Why Bother Be Good? by johnydon22(op): 8:59am On Sep 06, 2015
maverickboy:
And the fact that there could be two answers to a question is something necessary for u to understand. Once u have made up ur mind never to look into what others perspective is, u will continue to make a terrible mistake that there's nothing they can offer u.
Of course, we can go into history to clarify our differences but how deep should we go. Don't forget history starts somewhere but has no end; tomorrow will be history. so, when u go into its depth, and history itself has nothing else to offer how do u explain the rest of the issue?
For the single fact that you have asserted Religions beget morality when the other way round is the case shows i personally have nothing more to discuss with you based on the development of human societal ethics and morality.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This A Real Mad Man, Prophet Or An Anti Christ? (photos +shocking Video) by johnydon22(m): 8:54am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
I bet you liked and shared kobosmalls' most recent comment . How Im I pretty sure ? Ive been on this thread (my internet connection was poor ) . His comment had no likes or shares . I know how Nairaland works , winner01 brought the thread alive on the first page with his comment -a reply to me - you visited , liked and shared the comment and then wrote the comment above .

Even if I'm wrong , you are still really hypocritical . You claim not to be a bigot but the ineffable share of bashing goes to the religious people . malvisguy212 was right
You see i have nothing to explain to anybody, so your assertions are your responsibilities not mine.

I won't even deny if i liked kobosmall's comment or not, you can think what ever you can for all i care.. Show me a thread where i entered and started insulting the person am discussing with without the person attacking my person first.

I have never heard or seen an irreligious person attack my person in an argument, i had an argument with theAtheist101 the other day but there was no ad homninems on it, you guys always take arguments to mean enmity and employ unnecessary emotions into it.

Shaaa na you have you mouth...Go ahead and keep swimming in this type of back to back with people on every thread, all i can say is "It is totally demeaning"
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Amount Of Evidence That Would Change Your Views? by johnydon22(m): 8:37am On Sep 06, 2015
Mindfulness:
I agree with many points you have raised here BUT I do not agree with the bold.

Even if you do not consider yourself a Christian, people such as Jesus, Buddha, Mandela, MLK, Ghandi and some others are very much needed today; maybe even more than ever.
I think you misunderstood him, he is addressing the line of the fable not the teachings.

I for agree with some teachings of these guys and a huge fan of such philosophies.

But his assertion was based on the storyline, let me make it clearer for you to understand it. He meant "If the adam and eve story is myth, then there was no original sin and then no need for a messiah to come and die"

So he was addressing the mythological antiquity not the idea of Jesus teachings..
Christianity Etc › Re: Unbeliever Why Bother Be Good? by johnydon22(op): 8:29am On Sep 06, 2015
maverickboy:
There's one thing I got to know from ur response to my post, That's "the hearing of religion is the opium of atheists".
I think I'll have to let go of this, so as not to waste time on "never ending argument".
No there is one thing you should learn from my post and that is "You need a basic lesson in history"

When someone does not know that Politics and Religion are products of organized society, what then can that person assert correctly as regard these premises..

I personally have no problem with religion unless you are in jupiter only then can you claim you are not seeing the effects these religious brouhaha are having on everybody including atheists.

So that an atheists retaliates by placing such absurd ideologies under scrutiny is very much in order.

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