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tartar9:Catholics make up more than 60% of christians living today, according to our gate man of the pearly gates he has condemned them all to hell literally.... Can someone get any sicker? |
CaptainJune:The universe is complex right? yes good.. then going from your analogy the complexity of the universe requires a designer... then again you forgot that this designer must be super complex in order to have designed something as complex as the universe.. So in order for something that complex as the designer to exist, it must have been designed by another designer who in turn also requires a greater designer and so it stretches into an infinite regress of designers.. |
marshalcarter:Simple... Another man and woman!!! |
marshalcarter:It wouldn't still change the fact that he was created by two Gods.. a man and a woman... very powerful Gods and they are very real... |
marshalcarter:Yeah he was created by a powerful God, actually their were two powerful Gods anyway.. A man and a woman, a wonderful phenomenon and through it a beautiful child was created by real Gods who actually did it and don't just claim it |
menesheh:The so call "God fearing Christians" were already dropping their pins and asking what ever it is to accept their request……People can be quite childish shaa |
menesheh:I wonder my brother...there is a forum for every bullshiit in nairaland |
I think most christians fear Satan more than yahweh... that's why they spend long hours shouting Holy Ghost fire.. So why don't you rephrase... You want to Hook up with a Satan fearing Chrisitan.... By the way as pretty as your pictures appear to be, you can't find a man that you resort to public forum for advert?.. there is nothing someone will not see sef ![]() seriously |
AllNaijaBlogger:Hahahahahahahaha this is funny..... oh you thought this was ana argument? #Sigh and i even thought i was having a reasonable discussion. |
AllNaijaBlogger:Lol predestination... I have always wondered how people who believe in predestinations still look before they cross the road.. think about that.. |
Krystalzkris:Yeah i know. . . But by realizing that these stoic beliefs and convictions are as a result of indoctrination, you have taken the first and most important step towards the emergence of independent reason. My concern is for people to allow their own independent reason to run their lives instead, i am not really interested whether they choose to be atheistic or theistic . . the most important thing is to set your thoughts and reasons free.. It has never been easy, A little Help from others can be a huge thing.. You can reach out to me here or PMs if you have questions |
HDee:Stockholm syndrom at it's worse |
That notion is archaic as it is outdated...A woman's education gets her to end up in her desired career just like a man's In Marriage it is a mutual agreement and so it is not perpetually the obligation of one party to do the cooking and chores but can help each other out... it ensures a stronger bond, continuity and makes the job easier... |
Admiral49:Your consciousness is as a result of the neuroperceptive activities going on in your body and ultimately brain... You had no consciousness before this body (you simply did not exist) what ever thing gave you the impression that your consciousness (which is a product of this body) will transcend this body really got you retarded |
dalaman:[b]Lol one can only look and imagine how a human could be that daft my brother, how would someone be afraid of what he does not even believe to be real and think it a mere joke... I suppose some people find comfort in that whole notion of passing away, transcending instead of simply dying. It's not so hard to understand why we create, fabricate and assume these stories for ourselves given that we are almost certainly the only specie in this planet earth that know for sure at a very young age that are going to die one day. Other animals just live in the moment cus i doubt the dogs and bird outside my house now are assuming about a life after this or even giving it a thought or in a religious sense performing rituals to ensure a spot in heaven. But our knowledge of this inevitable end of our being is somewhat of a huge burden to us .... [size=14] So maybe instead of assuming and swimming in such greedy fantasies as an afterlife or having an orgasm over your greed to live eternally, why don't we focus on where we are now and what we have right now..[/size] [/b] |
trapQ:Yeap have heard someone claim it just like i have heard you make claims of your own God same way i have heard muslims make claims of their own God but i disbelieve it because its just a claim unsubstantiated by empirical evidence... that's why you need to believe it with faith... If you find out the reason why you disbelieve all the other God concepts out there you will see the only difference between you and i is that i disbelieve both the ones you disbelieve and the one you believe |
trapQ:Same reason you think there is no pink flying diamond green bunny |
Jeromejnr:You are just showing us you never read this...First the Op is a DEIST fully written on the Op and he also affirms he believes in a God more explicitly in his write up. Not every article is an attack on the concept of a God or an argument for the existence of a God...Because this thread was not in anyway about the existence of any deity.. learn to read before commenting.. |
Cc. Seun lalasticlala i think people need to see the effect difference in theistic tilt can have in a relationship because this simple fact happens all the time even between two theists of varying religions... Please front page!!! |
marshalcarter:This is called Stockholm syndrome... That's your situation... read it up here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome Buddy.....blv in him...have faith in him...play an instrument for him...blv me...you'll see dere's more in servin him...I'd rather base my confidence in Reason and not FAITH which by simple definition is blind... Your faith doesn't make anything true, your faith only affirms that you believe it anyway whether it is true or not Faith is a dishonest position to be in because it ensures stoic convictions that is assumed without reason and defended against reason.. If you have to believe it by faith, you have no reason to believe it at all... |
HCpaul:Actually i could still be a pastor now if i want to the only thing holding me is that i am empathic and compassionate towards others and i find it better to give to the masses than extort their hard earned money in the name of a God.. "Believe me or burn in hell" that is abuse, [size=16]force[/size], sadistic and all round ludicrous... |
marshalcarter:So i take it that you only believe in a God not because there is or you want to but because you fear what he might do to you should in case there is ...let me assume there is such a thing as a God that is interested in beliefs and you think you can deceive it simply by believing out of fear of what it might do to you? What sort of individual operates on such low premise as judging others out of belief ? What sort of narcissistic character do you heap on your God. A God capable of creating the universe is worrying over mere beliefs and worship to the extent that it has to threaten people with roasting them in a fire in order to get worship, what does this say about this God? It shows it off to be narcissistic, chronic egoism and all in all abusive and sadistic. . I wonder why you people do not pause to see the implications the characteristics you guys heap on your God concepts has on it... |
[b]This is really an unfortunate position, one that i can imagine well... I understand your plight and i take this to be a very delicate matter that must be approached with caution. Your reply to chocolateme was a nice one cus Love as an emotion transcends race, colour, religions, status, ideologies and even age. . . And i think your girl friend loves your only that you state of mind is in total conflict with not only hers but her parent's, society and religion. . .So her position on this matter is understandable. I know it is very hard to feign belief when you lack it, it can be utterly frustrating so your own position too is understandable. This issue beats my tiny mind but can only try.. Love is acceptance and love is not condition conformity but rather accepting the other as they are.... You and your girl friend needs to have a very blunt talk over this, Is your love more than what you both believe or disbelieve? Is the beliefs/unbelief worth sacrificing your love over? If you both cannot accept each other as each is in his/her differences then i do not see any future for that relationship at least not a happy one. For this to work there must be total acceptance and tolerance... I think your girl friend and yourself needs to come out more explicitly and show how you feel.. If her beliefs makes it impossible for her to be in the relationship with an unbeliever then i think you both know what should be done... But all in all i do not buy the idea of you using harsh words on her, she doesn't deserve that, no woman does.... Frank talk, you both should tell yourselves the honest truth without holding back. What ever path things stirs into (whether to stay or not to stay) after that will be for the better What matters after all is happiness..... [/b] |
Admiral49:You can as well tell me where you were before you were born!!! |
divinehand2003:Your naivety and innocent lies can only be matched by your English proficiency |
Admiral49:First of all atheist do not believe there is no God rather atheist disbelieve there is until presented with tangible empirical evidence... Disbelief of a posit is not belief of the negate...Need to get your facts straight and if they die where do they think they will go to? Oya make una begin talk oo...No where. . . Dead people do not go anywhere because they are dead!!! |
A wonderful piece and this could serve as a stimulus to any right thinking human to pause and think about all you think you believe... |
Annunaki:Ironically Muslims also think the same about you and your religion.. You are destined for hell too according to them.. For the simple fact that you are able to conceive this idea of your fellow humans roasting in a literal fire forever because they don't believe as you do and is ok with that shows exactly the state of your mind, your religion and you and sadly it's a pity. The division and hatred religions has instilled in us is very clearly displayed here by you |
I can only wonder how some right thinking humans can subscribe and adhere to something as ludicrous, absurd and nonsensical as this. . How can 21st century humans base their whole lives, mind and reasons to the ideologies of a long hallucinating dead arab man.. these people insult their own ver intellect. Wonder when black men will get hold of their reasons and emancipate themselves from such idiotic psychological enslavement that has reduced them to a state of mere simpletons |
[b]I saw a thread by BRIGHTRIVERS https://www.nairaland.com/2545912/now-thinking-like-atheist where he voiced out he needs help because of the way his thoughts has been going lately and youngpol also identified to trail that line too and this shows that there are many like this who are afraid of their own questions, afraid of their own thoughts and remarkably afraid of their own self. This thread is not an attack on any religion neither is it a form of argument about the existence of any God or deity. . This only is meant to address the idea of fear in the minds of people who see reason as something to be feared.. I laughed when i saw the post, not because it is really funny but because many of us passed through that and partly because the topic sounds funny.. "Help!!!" That word alone with exclamation marks depicts one fact and that is; "You are yelling for help" Ok so the thing is "Help on what?" or "from what?" You must first identify why you are scared, why you think you need help and why you fear your own thoughts. From the Op one can deduct that you are surprised at the conflict going on in your mind, you are witnessing what i mostly like to call "The emergence of reason" a severe conflict between reality and faith, reason and belief. So tell me exactly, are you really afraid of your thoughts or you are afraid of your beliefs? You are afraid of the said repercussions that your belief stipulates awaits unbelief? So first you need to determine what you are really afraid of ... Your thought or your beliefs?. YOUR THOUGHT Our thoughts are an extension of us, its a projection of what our inner self is and as your thought is you, are you really supposed to fear yourself? I love maria curie words that said "Nothing in life is to be feared only understood, so now is the time to understand more so we can fear less" Assuming from my deductions and you are afraid of your THOUGHTS (yourself) can you ever know yourself? Your religions might frown on questions that stems from independent reason, but in you deny your reason, your thought, what exactly is left of you? A thoughtless robot that takes what ever he is told? No, from my little knowledge of humans, it shouldn't be like that. We are capable of questions, reason, comparing and contrasting, weighing and even criticising objectively every idea that is not in coincide with our own reason.. So do not be afraid of your thoughts but rather embrace it, open up to yourself and let your questions play out, let your mind achieve independency of thought and reason and what ever your conclusion is, you will be sure is what you really wanted, you will be sure is what your reason agrees with. Like Buddha said; Believe nothing, no matter where you heard or read it from unless it agrees with your own reason... So take that chance of thinking for yourself, so much happiness, peace and fulfilment will come through it.. YOUR BELIEFS This commonly is the most common factor that keeps people locked into their respective beliefs to the detriment of their own reasons. I will be explicit here; An islamic scholar once stipulated that without murdering apostates, there would be no islam today... that is true but let us be even clearer here "Without the concept of hell, most religions won't boast of up to a 100million adherents. . Religions has derived so many means of subjecting their adherents to perpetual psychological fear therefore ensuring their continuation. Nothing reveals the man made aspect of religions more than the sick minds that designed hell... And a God who operates under such sadistic premise is totally monstrous, evil and barbaric in nature not to talk of the egoistic and narcissistic idea of judgement. Is a life time (perhaps 100years) worth an eternity of punishment? Is that in any sense justice? I think not, and this unjust idea has been fed to the public by various religions i always wonder if they don't really stop to wonder "How the attributes they fabricate for their different God concepts shows it off to be" Your beliefs are still like i mentioned for thoughts nothing to be feared, only understood and the sooner you understand that people like you sat down to determine most of these things you believe now the better you will learn to fear it less and the better for your reason. In all said and done the basis of religion is FEAR and not really Faith like they would have us think. Even if you choose to believe by Faith which in itself is irrational because the strong convictions (faith) you have for something doesn't really make it true, it doesn't even make it probably true it only means you believe it whether it is true or not. We either base our confidence on reason (evident probabilities, plausibilities, past experiences) or we base our beliefs in faith. which by definition is blind. A dishonest position possible to have, because it is an assertion of stoic conviction that is assumed without reason and defended against all reason. If one needs to believe something by FAITH, their really is no reason to believe it at all. It is not harmful to have faith but if someone genuinely believes it is right to believe things without reason or evidence then that person is open to every kind of dogma, whim, coercion or dangerous infectious idea that is around. if someone is convinced that it is acceptable to base their beliefs in what is written in an ancient book or what some teachers tell them they must believe. Then they will have no true freedom of thought, they will be trapped by their own faith into inconsistency and untruths because they will be unable to throw out false ideas when evidence against them comes along. So what i am saying is, your thought or beliefs is not something to be feared but rather understood. understanding your own self is the first step there is to understanding the world. So what ever thought your mind cultivates should be left to play out, your questions should be a stimulus for knowledge and a call for INDEPENDENT REASON. . Only then will you determine that which you will be sure you agree or believe... Do not be afraid of your own thought which is in fact yourself or the questions you conceive because a subtle thought in error may yet give rise fruitful enquiry that can determine truth of great value [/b] |
BRIGHTRIVERS:There MUST be" Great and this shows your conviction of it stems from your own emotions of what you feel should be and do not coincide with what really might be |
BRIGHTRIVERS:Funny, the question here is; Is it that there is or you think there must be, or you want it to be there is or you feel there should be ?? |
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xtianity and confusion.

...you'll be blessed...tnx buddy