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 Science/Technology › Re: Earth 'entering New Extinction Phase' - US Study by johnydon22(m): 4:35pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Man is the most insane creature. He worships an invisible God and destroys a Visible nature, he do not know that this God he worships is the nature he destroys. It is our responsibility to preserve and nurture this earth, we have a responsibility to every form of life and not just ours. Man should learn when restraint is needed and when to pause and retrace, with the rate man is going on with activities in this planet he will end up ending the planet faster than expected. Look around you and you will see that the threat to this world is not Zombies, Vampires, Gods flying down from the sky to destroy it, Big foot and all but the threat to this earth is the innocent specie Homo sapiens. Man is a threat to both himself and the world we live in 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 4:27pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
freecocoa: The quran says Allah exist Shruti says Brahma exists Book of pyramids says Osiris exists Homers Illiad says Zeus exist J.R.R Tolkien Lord of the ring says Gandalf Exists. It is settled he just closed everything. . . 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 4:24pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
brodalikeme:Yes and we have people who wants you to step over your wife coming to your door everyday to tell you, opening churches of pregnant step over in almost every nook and cranny of your neighbourhood disturbing everybody's peace with shouts and musical bangs. Bathing you in spittle as they pour down the word of the pregnant step over on you in the bus, Shouting at the top of their voice as early as 5am to tell you how your son will be an imb£cile should you not step over your wife... Reconcile that! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 4:19pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
malvisguy212:This is just .....EPIC  what more needs saying on this? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 4:09pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
herald9:lol...no be small ooo... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 4:07pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
joywendy:[b]Exactly the point, and am sure in this case Religions are the guilty ones. Speaking of what i know of, we get tons of disturbances everyday from churches surrounding us banging and shouting at the top of their voices (sometimes i wonder how they even hear what they say) Schools in the north teach Islamic studies not minding if you are christian or hindu or pegan or even atheist. Schools here down south teach Christian Religious Studies not minding if you are a muslim or hindu, pegan or atheist. Talk about forcing ideologies on people, you don't only get forced they will rub it on your face and bath you in total absurdities. In the bus, in the field, even at home when you are resting, the internet and all that, from every angle you get battered with religious materials and unwarranted brouhaha most of the times condemning and threatening you. Even here on nairaland you get this on daily basis... You get threads like "Atheist will go to hell" Yes they believe it but keep it to yourself but am sure you know one cannot necessarily seat and watch you bath him with outright absurdity. . Once these beliefs are rubbed on our faces we retaliate by challenging it simply by arguing, placing it under scrutiny and questions. I told a religionist yesterday here on nairaland "If you can get your lot to keep their beliefs to themselves, then you wouldn't have to worry about people who refute it" Can it get any simpler? [/b] 9 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 2:57pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Dekatron:You might as well make them see it . . .Lol. . 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sodom And Gomorrah (Didn't the Children matter?) by johnydon22(op): 1:43pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
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| Science/Technology › Re: Scientists create a universe simulator by johnydon22(op): 1:37pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
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| Jokes Etc › Re: Check Out The Real Life Photo Of The Man Drawn In Cabin Biscuits by johnydon22(op): 1:35pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 12:52pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
hahn:Lol... Abi  2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: #sundaythrowback: Did You Read This Book As A Kid? (photo) by johnydon22(m): 12:46pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Lo, yes na. . . who didn't. Good old innocent childhood days when we happily swallow everything we read that is in smiling colourful pictures... 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 11:45am On Aug 02, 2015*. Modified: 12:09pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
joywendy:Lol. . . Yes atheist sometimes expect people to think independently of what they have been indoctrinated to believe since childhood and in these cases we always forget how it is to have a belief because most of us once did before and know how hard the process of untangling oneself is....I must admit it's a mistake on some atheist part. But then again thats why in this post i mentioned the fear factor that has kept most in religions till today. One muslims scholar once said "Without the killing of apostates there will be no islam today" let us be clear. . "Without the hell factor, the number of Christians and Muslims combined wouldn't amount to a billion" It is never an easy thing leaving ones mind to cultivate questions that goes against their belief but the emergence of reason is always a very slow and long one. 12 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 11:09am On Aug 02, 2015*. Modified: 12:16pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
[b]Before anybody shouts or plays the victims card here about their own religion, let everybody know that in this post when i say "God" i am not only referring to One deity but to many. Both the Muslim and christian concept will be referred together as God, this is a mind tickling thread and a charge for independent reason. I have always seen Muslims here threaten a Christian with hell like "Repent and turn to God and his holy prophet Muhammed or burn in hell" Ironically Christians also accord the same favour to them like "You will burn in hell if you don't accept Jesus" and then funny enough both religions too regard atheists to be hell bound and also adherents of other religions. You see, its not even about being a theist. they all still think you are going to hell either way as long as its not theirs. . Christians still think Muslims are going to hell just like atheist even though Muslims believe in a God and same thing goes the other way round. Now looking at the idea of HELL, it is ok to point out the heavy influence of greek culture on the new testament. The old testament (Judaic Tenark) knows nothing like a HELL, but the influence of the greek underworld concept TARTARUS gave birth to sickening concept HELL when adopted by the newly emerged religion. I once told a christian that was preaching to me "The very concept of a HELL, ridicules the idea of a God. It insults it and drags it to a level lower than a human" One might be thinking my reason for saying this. I have wooed many girls in my life and if i recall correctly i have never said to any of them "I love you, love me back or i hurt you" any sane mind will see that everything should be wrong in that statement. The very idea of me hurting her if she doesn't love me back nullifies my confession of love for her. Take another look at that statement, it is a blackmail and an abusive word. I have threatened her so it is a blackmail, if she doesn't love me back i will hurt her. It is a sheer blackmail giving her two nonsensical choices. Now this is one of the reasons religious people do not know that they themselves ridicule their God concepts even more than atheists, We have seen everything wrong in the statement i presented above, but then again let us show the very large scaled way this is used. God says "I love you, if you don't love me back i will burn you in hell forever" Am sure everyone can now see everything wrong in this, it is blackmail, it is blatant abuse and the very sadistic idea of punishing someone because they don't reciprocate your love reveals egoism at a chronic level, it is barbaric as well as it is repulsive and blatantly implausible. Yet they want us to swallow that a perfect being operates within such childish egoism and abusive ways. Come to think of it, God should be perfect right? Yes Yes God is perfect. God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, He is even omniperfect. This very idea of perfection is a flaw in the character people have heaped on their different God concepts. Let us see how. God is perfect, perfection needs nothing. A circle needs nothing added to it to make it 360°. At 360° a circle is perfect and it is impossible to add even 1° and if you take away 1° and makes it 359° it ceases to be a circle. So God is perfect, God needs nothing, you can never add anything to it neither can you take away, perfection is just perfection. If this is the case and God is perfect, this surely means such being needs nothing like Worship, reverence, acknowledgement, praise and all these because it is just perfect. If God is perfect it simply means that all the worship and reverence etc are useless because he doesn't need them, unless you assert it is not perfect then i will agree it needs them to feed his ego and so feel important. But religions drag their God concept too low to a level that it needs worship and acknowledgement on daily basis, needs it real bad even threatens people with eternal torture if you fail to give it, this very quality betrays the idea of perfection and drags down the God concept to the state of Egoism, Narcissism, sadism and all round imperfect..... "Believe i exist and i reward you, disbelieve and i will hurt you so bad forever in an eternal roasting fire" Can abuse and blackmail get any cheaper? You would agree with me an existent powerful and perfect being (if there is even need to) do not need people to be threatening others as to hogwash them into believing it exists, rather it should be able to prove its own existence, isn't it? This also shows how religions ridicule God and not atheist. Again, a perfect being should be above hate, anger, jealousy, grief and all, these disturbing emotions are all characteristics of mundane beings like us because it stems from our own emotional insecurity but if God is perfect it is impossible for such emotions to hold sway on it, it is impossible for it to operate within the confines of these emotions, But the religions are heaping on us God concepts that operate within the confines of such disturbing emotions as Anger, jealousy, hate and even bear grudges with humans and then wrap it under the guise of perfection and expect any right thinking human not to ask questions or refute such ideas! The very acknowledgment of these emotions in a supposedly perfect being kills the idea of perfection and portrays a very imperfect being or should i say concept. This yet again is another way religions ridicule and insult their God concepts. It is common knowledge for Christians and Muslims, to claim their holy books are all flawless and perfect without blemish and are the words of the supposedly perfect God who created the universe. But just a look at the books it shows the skills of mundane men in every inch of it, it depicts the knowledge of ordinary men and claiming such to be from a perfect being ridicules and insults the very intellect of such entity because you would be sure a perfect being would do better. One cannot help but imagine how the very mythological historical antiquity of a certain set of people (which makes up almost 60% of the bible) is the word of a God, how? Or the very misogynistic, chauvinistic, barbaric, blood drenched charges as seen in different verses of both the Quran and the Bible connotes a universal deity of a perfect status, That is also an insult to the very being these books claim to belong to. And this yet again shows how religions insult and ridicule their own God concepts. Another idea is the chosen race brouhaha, A perfect universal God would choose one people specially over others and you still tag it a universal concept? That is clearly the worst form of racism and such favouritism ideology betrays the very concept was invented by the very people it favours and loves more than others even to the extent of taking their side in wars against others (which allegedly he supposed to have created)think about it, this betrays a huge character flaw and a ridicule to the idea of a universal God and is sheer implausible. Most people in religions often think it is blasphemy to think or ask questions, in fact i have once thought like that. They are afraid to question God and the disturbing characters it is portrayed to have. As a matter of fact many times this fear effectively keeps most locked up in their respective religions because no one wants to be punished by a perfect but again JEALOUS God. Many would say: Why do atheist discuss God? It is quite simple, differences in ideologies creates room for healthy discussion, scrutiny of the idea. Atheist might lack belief in the God concepts but the stories are there, we have Hindu books to read brahma stories, bible to read yahweh stories, Quran to read Allah stories and many other deities out there just like we also have J.R.R Tolkien Lord of the rings book to read about Gandalf, one necessarily do not need to BELIEVE Gandalf is real before discussing Gandalf, The discussion is always a call to reason and a charge to allow your mind pour out their questions. Another would ask: Atheists are afraid of hell! Lol. . this one is always funny, if an atheist is afraid of hell there is no way he would still be an atheist, not at all....In fact we see hell exactly the way we see children who thinks fairies are real its a very hilarious idea. Again, this write up is not an attack on any religion either is it meant to insult any, it only remains a stimulus to independent reason, healthy questions unbound by fear. I hope none sees it as an attack to their religion. Man always have been a curious being, Man is not a robot that downloads every data you input into it, man should be able to weigh and compare, scrutinize and even criticize. . so do not be afraid to allow your questions cultivate. Nothing in life is to be feared only understood, this is the time to understand more so we may fear less... Because a subtle thought in error can give rise to useful enquiry that can establish truth of great value Buddha once said: Believe nothing, even if you heard it from me. unless it agrees with your own reason. This shows you are supposed to subject every idea to judgement of your own independent reason. Let go of the fear because there is nothing to fear when using your own brain and judgment.... if i am to go on with ways religions ridicule their own God, i would write on forever but let me stop where i am now.[/b] 28 Likes 14 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 10:16am On Aug 02, 2015 |
trapQ:Spider man means nothing to me... According to your analogy i just agreed spiderman exists, according to your very childish logic discussing a concept is synonymous to acknowledging the existence of that concept. Ideas are meant to be discussed, nobody needs to believe spiderman exists before discussing spiderman and same goes to your God idea 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 12:28am On Aug 02, 2015 |
freecocoa:lol true tho, nothing more annoying than mtn drinking my whole data up...Am off to bed, i will rain holy ghost fire on all the data drinking networks (mtn) ... really messed up real bad now  1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 12:15am On Aug 02, 2015 |
freecocoa:Lol... that would be untrue because you will have to have knowledge of a concept before you can believe or disbelieve.... You do not know if there is a flying diamond horned unicorn, so you do not believe or disbelieve it because simply you have no knowledge of the concept, unless someone brings it up and makes claim of such before you then you will have the knowledge of the concept and then know whether you believe it or not. . . 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 12:11am On Aug 02, 2015 |
brodalikeme:Unless maybe you are trying to deny the effects religious activities are having on our society. . am sure she was not asking the deity she does not believe in the question, her question were to the believers. . Look around you, we get dozens of visits by people rubbing their belief on our face, threatening us with a literal burning furnace, shouting at the top of their voice as early as 5am, disturbing us in the bus and virtually everywhere.. Maybe you expect her to seat and clap for them? No sir some people are allergic to bullshiit. She may lack belief in the concept you sell but these problems i mentioned above are very real just like isis are real, one cannot simply seat and watch you rub them up and down with uptight absurdities. If only you could get your lots to keep their belief to themselves, then you wouldn't have to worry about people who refute it.. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 12:04am On Aug 02, 2015*. Modified: 12:25am On Aug 02, 2015 |
seemples:[b]Am very sure to have answered your question the best i can and as well acknowledge where i lack knowledge when i see it. . . We know not only the bible makes claims about a God. We also have the Quran, the hindu Shruti, Egyptian book of pyramids and thousand other religious texts that makes just same claim as the bible, so don't even try making any claim to classify yours as different from these others which you are obviously do not believe too.… I do not really need to know the bible inside out, just like i do not need to know Homers Iliad inside out. . Any sound mind knows an obvious implausible tale when faced with one. . .i do not need to know the quran intoto to know that no man split the moon I do not need to know everything in the bible to know that a donkey can't talk or that someone cannot stay in the belly of a fish for three days, we know all that implausible tales . . we all saw it during our childhood days. . . So do not hope to pour out these fables as truth and expect not to be challenged or scrutinized. The exact reason why you disbelieve the claims of all the other holy books i listed up there is exactly the same reason i disbelieve the claims made by yours. [/b] 10 Likes 5 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 11:53pm On Aug 01, 2015*. Modified: 7:44pm On Sep 14, 2015 |
brodalikeme:Yes i like this,But when you talk the talk. You must also be ready for your words to be challenged and scrutinized or do you expect people to just listen to you do the talking alone without challenging, scrutinizing, refuting, arguing and pointing out the outright implausibilities and absurdities in what you are telling them? 7 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 11:50pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
ogaprime:[i]Very true, neither was she born a theist. . . She was not born with the idea of "if there is a god or not" she was born without any knowledge of it all just like she was not born with the idea of "if there is a squared circle diamond bunny" and same goes to all of us.. Not until someone starts filling you up with those absurdities, not until they start singing it into your ears and many times flogging it into you, if not you still wouldn't have known any of it till now... Or maybe if they waited for you to become an adult to tell you, you wouldn't have believed any of it. Is it not curious how every child adopts the religion of their parents? How did this come about, through the psychological format of Child indoctrination.. Why not wait for them to get to the age of reasoning with cognitive abilities and sound mind to develop their own ideas and agree to what they can believe or not 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 11:40pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
brodalikeme:Uuuuhm how can God possibly piss her off exactly? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 11:33pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
seemples:No she wants to place your belief under scrutiny so as to perhaps show you the implausibility of it all.. Myths should be taught as myth, fables as fables. . .teaching these absurd superstitions and mythological tales as truth is horrifying because the innocent minds accept it and only through great pain can they be free of it. She is discussing it so as to show the absurdity in it and perhaps get any sound mind to think over it.. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
| Fashion › Re: OPINION: All Guys/girls With Tattoos Are Indecent And Immoral by johnydon22(m): 10:36pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Tattoos does not make anybody indecent or immoral any more than an average person out there. Your behaviour towards others make you immoral/moral not what someone decides to decorate THEIR own body with that in no way affects you or the society in any way. A girl or guy with a tattoo is as good as anybody can be and tattoos in any way do not automatically make them immoral. They are not whores or bad people, what anybody does with THEIR body in no way is anybody's problem neither do anyone has the right to determine what is right or wrong with what other people do with THEIR body and not yours. Tattoo or no tattoo anybody can be either good or bad, and everybody deserves respect 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation by johnydon22(m): 9:50pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Eddlad:Am not sure you can read at all, please read the post again and show me how this question in the least sense relates to the post or makes any sense to you! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reincarnation by johnydon22(m): 9:15pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
theAtheist101:Belief in reincarnation has nothing to do with belief in a God. . .Buddhism believe in reincarnation but not a God. . . I think the reincarnation is just a ridiculously selfish idea just like afterlife, fabricated by men who in their greediness do not want to think or imagine that DEATH is absolute 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Religions Are You Likely To Choose in this context by johnydon22(m): 7:37pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
ksbusari:Your existence only proves islam  1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by johnydon22(m): 2:29pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
joe4christ:Bro i think you have to stop discussing your atheistic stance with your mum or parents, when you eventually get to live on your own you would enjoy the total freedom and independency you seek but for now religious brouhaha will be sung into your head every minute of the day 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Religions Are You Likely To Choose in this context by johnydon22(m): 1:53pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
menesheh:If the parents waited till their children are adults before telling them these stories, nobody would have believed any of that crap because you could have simply laughed and tell your dad... "Dad, donkeys can't talk" 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Religions Are You Likely To Choose in this context by johnydon22(m): 1:50pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Would have gone with the AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGION..(Igbo religion) which is my own native religion Let the jews, romans, hindus, chineses and arabs believe their own shiit while i believe mine 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Jesus' Genealogy In Matthew And Luke So Different? by johnydon22(m): 1:42pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Scholar8200:And this just buttresses my point, your speculations are just based on your assumptions of what you feel should be in order to reconcile it, no more need me saying on this...  3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Attention: Who Can Explain This!! by johnydon22(m): 1:23pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Tallesty1:He meant even the new testament never condemned slavery, so its ok to have slaves 1 Like 1 Share |
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