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 Christianity Etc › Re: The Missionary Lilith by johnydon22(m): 2:57pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
emrain:Yet you have Sumer, egypt, greece and rome... Give me one examples of what you think jews invented? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Missionary Lilith by johnydon22(m): 1:08pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
emrain:Nope i give that to Sumer (mesopotamia) and Greeks, even this Jewish Lilith myth developed from ancient Mesopotamia lilithu myth 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Women Rights And Islam by johnydon22(op): 1:06pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
timonski:Yes very much equal to men 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Women Rights And Islam by johnydon22(op): 11:24am On Aug 04, 2015 |
[b] “Man enjoys the great advantage of having a god endorse the code he writes; and since man exercises a sovereign authority over women it is especially fortunate that this authority has been vested in him by the Supreme Being. For the Jews, Mohammedans and Christians among others, man is master by divine right; the fear of God will therefore repress any impulse towards revolt in the downtrodden female.” Simone de Beauvoir – The Second Sex 1949 Islam, Christianity and Judaism are patriarchal, monotheistic religions and are bound by one thing – their contempt of women! When confronted with the issue of women’s plight in Muslim countries, Muslim apologists insist that their religion has been misunderstood and that Islam actually grants women certain rights. They blame tradition and tribal societies for the low status and oppression of women. Since Islam exerts absolute power over every aspect of Muslim society, from diet to relations between the sexes, why has it failed in fourteen centuries of its existence, to eradicate injustices against half of its adherents? Turkey’s women are the most liberated in the Muslim world. This was achieved not through Islamic reformation but through secularisation established by the founder of the modern Turkish republic Kemal Ataturk. Kemal was the product of secular education and had always admired Western culture. He pursued a program of westernisation that affected all aspects of Turkish life – women were granted the vote and veiling was prohibited. If the Turkish system were to collapse and replaced by an Islamic theocracy we can be certain that women’s progress will be reversed and women will be at the mercy of the mullahs. In countries where there has been a raise in fundamentalism and reversal to strict religious law such as Pakistan, Sudan and Afghanistan women are targeted with vengeance and brutality. Some Muslim scholars agree that Mohammed did proclaim some rights for Muslim women. For example he abolished the pre-Islamic Arabian custom of burying alive unwanted female infants. He also decreed that women could own and inherit property, and that women have the right to enjoy sex! However, he did enshrine women’s inequality and inferior status in immutable Quranic law accepted by Muslims as the infallible word of God. “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because men spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those among you who fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” Sura 4:34. “…Women shall with justice have rights similar to those exercised against them, although men have a status above women. God is mighty and wise.” Sura 2:228 Under Shari’a – Islamic law – a man can marry up to four wives. He can divorce his wife or wives by saying “I divorce you” three times. For a wife to obtain a divorce is usually very difficult. Muslim apologists claim that Muslim women have the right to divorce and that in Islam the mother is revered and respected. Upon divorce, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and girls on the onset of puberty. Many women would be reluctant to divorceviolent or polygynous husbands for fear of losing their children. Despite the exaltation of motherhood – Mohammed once told a follower that paradise isfound at the feet of the mother – children are considered the property of the father with the mother being merely the caretaker. How is it possible for a Muslim man to respect his mother when immutable religious law proclaims women’s inferiority and inadequacy? Under the Shari’a, compensation for the murder of a woman is half the amount of that of a man. A woman’s testimony in court is worth only half of a man’s. Women are entitled to only half the inheritance of males; the reason given for these is that males have families to provide for. In sura 4:34 men are granted superiority and authority over women because they spend their wealth to maintain them, this implies that women are a burden on society and that their work in caring for children, household and livestock is insignificant and trivial. Girls as young as nine can be married off by their father even if the mother disapproves of the marriage, often they end up as second or third wives of much older men – here is a way to instantly eradicate illegal paedophilia! Conservative clerics have resisted moves to raise the minimum age for girls. One of Mohammed’s wives, Aisha was seven when she was betrothed to Mohammed and nine when the marriage was consummated, Mohammed was in his fifties with several wives. Any attempts by various governments to give women more freedoms, greater property and marriage rights have been vehemently opposed by conservative Islamists, who insist that the reforms are against Islam. In the Qur’an the prescribed penalty for adultery is one hundred lashes and a year in exile – sura 24:1. However, Mohammed did condemn people to be stoned to death, in one case the rabbis brought a man and a woman accused of adultery, Mohammed ordered the pair to be stoned to death. The Jews practiced stoning for adultery and it is mentioned in the Old Testament under Mosaic Law. Today many Islamic fundamentalists advocate the stoning of women and stoning does occur in many Muslim countries. In Muslim countries, men have the power of life and death over their women. Honour-killers usually escape punishment and the ones that are tried and convicted, receive only a few months in prison where they are treated like heroes by other inmates. Honour killings are carried out by men against women in their family for disobedience or suspected sexual transgressions. Even women who have been raped are killed for defiling the family honour. A 12-year old Jordanian girl returned home one evening from a walk with some friends. She was confronted by her enraged father who was shouting that she had dishonoured the entire family. He began beating his daughter with sticks and iron chains until she died. He told the police that he killed his only daughter because she went for a walk without his permission. In Batsail, Bangladesh an 18-year old woman was flogged to death for “immoral” behaviour on the order of Muslim Clerics. A 16-year old Jordanian girl had her throat slit by her brother after having been raped by another of her brothers. An Egyptian father paraded his daughter’s severed head through the streets shouting: “I have avenged my honour” . A woman that is not a virgin on her wedding night is likely to be killed by her male relatives.. Honour killings also occur among Arab Christians who claim that it is their tradition. Tradition has always been religion’s ally in the subjugation of women. Tradition and religion are the iron ball and chain that hinder women’s progress. In countries governed by the Shari’a a woman’s testimony is worth only half of that of a man’s. In Pakistan since Islamisation, rape victims are charged with “zina” – sex outside marriage – and are sent to prison. In 1977 a Saudi princess and her lover were sentenced to death and executed. The princess was separated from her husband and intended to leave the country with her lover. The execution was captured on camera by a British tourist and was televised all over the world. In Saudi Arabia women are subject to many harsh restrictions. They are forbidden to drive and most jobs are denied to them. The only evidence of their existence is the appearance of their name on their father’s or husband’s ID card. Whilewomen are expected to abide by a medieval and self-effacing moral code, Saudi men are importing planeloads of prostitutes from overseas and are buying sex- slaves from impoverished countries in addition to being permitted up to four wives. The law on adultery usually applies only to women. Since men are permitted up to four wives plus concubines they would hardly have the time for “unlawful” sex! Recently there was a case in Nigeria of a woman accused of sex outside marriage. She was sentenced to death by stoning while the man she had sex with was not charged because there was not enough evidence against him! When Afghanistan was occupied by the Russians, women’s rights were protected by law – much to the dismay of Islamists. When the Russians withdrew Islamic fundamentalists went to work in eradicating any gains made by women. The Taliban, a product of the Madrasah – fundamentalist religious school where boys spend hours every day reciting and memorizing the Qur’an – has taken the subjugation of women to new heights. Women were barred from employment and girls are forbidden to attend school. Women were also denied medical care because it was illegal for women to be examined by a male doctor. Any woman caught in the company of a male not related to her was sentenced to death and women were not permitted to leave the house without being accompanied by a male relative. Some women earned a small income by baking bread, when discovered by the Taliban they were burned alive in their own ovens. Islam’s psychotic obsession with female chastity, modesty and virginity has rendered men incapable of viewing women as equal and worthy companions. How can we expect these men to treat women decently when their religion and culture forbids it! In fact, Muslim men can relax only when their foot is firmly placed on their women’s necks! “Women are not given the right to instigate divorce because they are prone to emotional and irrational decision making. A husband, however, can divorce his wife at any time he so wishes.” Ayatollah Ali Moghtadai https://atheistfoundation.org.au/assets/Zarmina.jpg Considering and treating women as inferior creatures, is that good for the world? 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| Science/Technology › How Many Planets Are There In The Solar System? by johnydon22(op): 10:35am On Aug 04, 2015 |
[b]We all grew up learning that we have 9planets in our solar system and surely many people up till now still hold this to be true. But SCIENCE is ever improving with more discoveries and every scientific postulations are all still very open to scrutiny, more studies, research and more discoveries, this makes science (A systematic way for carefully and thoroughly OBSERVING nature and using consistent logic to evaluate the results) a very reliable method of obtaining knowledge because it is open to more facts and improvement thereby improving the quality of truth it holds. [size=16]Having said that, let us move on to the topic at hand. We have as of now 8 Known Main planets in the solar system of which consist of all the planets you use to know except pluto... They are: 1)Mercury 2)Venus 3)Earth 4)Mars 5Jupiter 6)Saturn 7)Uranus 8.)Neptune https://www.urbanholidaylofts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Solar-System-940x470.jpg It is common to ask "what about Pluto" for people who haven't heard about this before. Don't worry pluto is still a planet but with the modernized planetary characteristics stipulated, pluto falls under the category of DWARF PLANET and also a TNO (trans neptunian object). Trans Neptunian Objects are celestial objects that transcends Neptune, and this comprise of asteroids, planets (dwarf), moons and many other celestial bodies. There are 5 trans neptunian Objects that are recognized as Dwarf planets by the INTERNATIONAL ASTRONOMICAL UNION, and they are: 1)Pluto (Our famous Pluto) 2)Ceres (The only of the Dwarf planet that is not trans neptunian lies between Mars and Jupiter in the asteroid belt) 3)Haumea 4)Makemake 5)Eris. [img]http://4.bp..com/-jLn3tiYTckU/UB3g0bC33BI/AAAAAAAAKjw/jE3s7ZGyerE/s1600/3-5-dwarfplanets.017.png[/img] (And there are also possibilities of having hundreds more of these dwarf planets in our planetary system. Other trans neptunian objects like Sedna and 2007FY9 are yet to be recognized as dwarf planets by the IAU) So going with this we have as of now 13 Confirmed planets in our solar system, 8 main planets and 5 dwarf planets. . . . And we are still optimistic that with time, with more discoveries being made, this fact is going to improve. Cc. RobinHez Queed Temmpakguy Lalasticlala[/b][/size] 4 Likes 4 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Question That Really Baffles Me by johnydon22(m): 10:02am On Aug 04, 2015 |
bytemeister:Actually its not the greek gods but the Roman Gods intead. . Venus, mercury, Jupiter, saturn, Neptune, Mars Are all Roman Gods. Uranus and Gaia (earth) are Greek Gods. . . And yes the planets were named after the Gods instead and not the other way round. And yes again, the ancient men knew the existence of other planets but only stopped at Saturn. . .And they observed this through the stars constellations with the aid of a hand held telescope, its the branch of study (science or natural philosophy) they call Astrology which we call Astronomy now 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Missionary Lilith by johnydon22(m): 9:49am On Aug 04, 2015 |
Reyginus:There is no need for me to, look it up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by johnydon22(m): 11:12pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
dalaman:Lying to cover God's asss is not a sin bro  am not sure he even read your post before copying and pasting a reply because if he did he wouldn't have shamelessly mustered up such obvious stupendous and clear lie as a defence. Most times i really just feel shame for these guys when i see these clear lies and mumuish defence busted like this. Makes me wonder if religion rids people of their wits 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Missionary Lilith by johnydon22(m): 10:46pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Reyginus:The lilith story is a real Jewish mythological legend and also found in many other culture, you are probably hearing it for the first time.. You can look it up. The Christian demonology of sucubus and incubus developed from the lilith legend 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: Is Time Machine Possible? by johnydon22(m): 8:00pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Delusiongirl20:Time machine is a HYPOTHETICAL device that can transport someone into the future or in some cases back in time. Read my first reply to the post and see how possible and impossible it can be going from the theory of relativity I love your mind, you have a very sound healthy interest in knowledge...Keep it up dear 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: Is Time Machine Possible? by johnydon22(m): 7:52pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Cc. Seun lalasticlala ishilove can we please get scientific topics to the front page starting with this . .  1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 7:44pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Eddlad:I saw it and is that supposed to be a refutation exactly Because you just kinda added more 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Islam › Re: Does Islam Have Female Preachers? by johnydon22(m): 7:41pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
MarieSucre:My august is going great, Actually i have dated a muslim girl. Very beautiful and sweet girl**Covers eyes** and i even intended marrying her but i knew it was impossible because of her father's attitude and he was even an alhaji. . . I think he nearly found out about us though because it was at my uncle's neighbourhood in lag, i would have been a dead meat if he found out we ate the apple  . . . She's still on my mind tho, but distance, tribe, religion is a biatch 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by johnydon22(m): 7:21pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Delusiongirl20:It is very clear for all to see my dear. . . Slavery is wrong and that is it, maybe you need a microscope to see where the bible says. "Don't enslave another" But No in the bible "You can even sell your own daughter to another" and its ok. When people lack all independent reason that they cannot bluntly say this is wrong even at the detriment of their beliefs, we all can see religion mars humans. This express biased tilt from the Christians when faced with the idea of slavery that they cannot just condemn it in whatever form it comes but rather fights tooth and nail to justify it even when it is clear that it is wrong, kills the topic intoto because they just showed that morality as it is, is subjective.. Like i told the Op, am not supposed to keep lecturing him on human morality while he repeats the same childish argument over and over again!!! 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by johnydon22(m): 7:12pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
When someone say religious tilt blinds people's sense of reason and judgement, you can simply come to this thread and see it first hand. . [size=16] Someone cannot just say; Slavery is wrong in what ever form it may appear.. [/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 7:08pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
krattoss:Lol lets hope the Mods will listen. . . 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by johnydon22(m): 6:31pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212:[b]Let us then examine what you mean by forgiveness and what i mean by forgiveness. You offend someone or perpetrate acts that goes against empathy on your fellow humans and then go to your room, kneel down and mumble some words to the ceiling IN JESUS NAME and then come and say you have asked for forgiveness and is forgiven? is that forgiveness to you? I wrong some someone and i go to them and apologize and they forgive me . . .Which exactly is forgiveness ? Buddha once said: Holding On to anger is like holding a hot coal in a bid to throw it at someone else, you will only hurt yourself. . . . . . . . But this still doesn't make forgiveness a Buddhist virtue. Forgiveness is the act of letting anger and malice go, an act of agreement between the offended and the offender. That we forgive is because we need the peace and that is just what is it. Forgiveness is not a buddhist, hindu or christian Virtue, it is a human virtue. We do not need forgiveness from Deities, we only need forgiveness from ourselves and others around us that we have wrong [/b] 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is The Only True Religion. Others Are Fake by johnydon22(m): 6:16pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
tombravo:This is still what other religions say 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Islam › Re: Does Islam Have Female Preachers? by johnydon22(m): 6:12pm On Aug 03, 2015*. Modified: 7:16pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
[b]Even tho the bible expressly is against women teaching (preaching) in the assembly, Christianity tend to evolve pass that misogynistic level and still is evolving as we can see of recent Anglicans now ordain female bishops, Christianity has been a religion that is always evolving and try in a little way to keep up with time and women are still striving to gain more rights like some Anglican female priests also want the Christian God concept to also start being addressed with a feminine character instead of the masculine character it has been portrayed with since it first emerged.. Talk about Misogynistic dogma and blatant Chauvinism at it's peak then you will see Islam. . Islam has ever kept it's adherent in the Medieval ages even though we are in the 21st century now, they whole ideology seem to only revolve around the idea of an ancient sun baked arab man that saw women more or less a property or sex object. The discrimination against women is very clear for all to see and the male dominance is just plain silly and barbaric to the extent that a girl who is raped in Saudi is also punished for going out alone. Even though most Islamic women has resigned to this stupendous ideology that they rarely complain, they have accepted their fate and live with it. Though many are bright enough to fight back and speak up like Malala Yousufzai. Until women in Islam learn to speak up for their own rights and learn to strive to archive even a little bit of freedom or equality, they will always be abused and treated as they are being treated now, their silence is being taken as complicity. And until the islamic men learn to evolve with the world and learn that we are no longer in the middle ages and it is foolish to let the ideas of an old dead ancient arab man run their lives, they will always appear archaic and their life style will always be a thing of shame for the 21st century world. . Cc. Mariesucre i guess you are needed here. [/b] 6 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is The Only True Religion. Others Are Fake by johnydon22(m): 5:54pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Op thats good and all, But that's still what other religions say and feel about theirs 2 Likes |
| Science/Technology › Re: Is Time Machine Possible? by johnydon22(m): 5:48pm On Aug 03, 2015*. Modified: 7:55pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
[b]In General Relativity Time and Speed are relative, Just like RobinHez mentioned if we can achieve the speed of light then we can achieve time travels to the future but yet again Law of General relativity shows us how this is impossible. E=MC2 E= energy, M= Mass and C= constant (the speed of light in a vacuum) This simple equation shows that that a body in motion accumulates more mass the faster it goes and the faster it goes the four times the energy in needs. 2 So if a body achieves the speed of light 299,792,458m/s The mass will run at an infinite level and so it is impossible to achieve the amount of energy that can power such mass at that speed, so the speed of light is practically impossible to man. But yet again, The theory of relativity predicts a point in the cosmos where time, gravity and speed are interwoven that a body can pass through it and emerge at another point billions of light years away or future in a matter of seconds.. THE WORMHOLE or Einstein Rosen bridge. Remarkably the ancient Vikings spoke about such points that the Gods used to visit man from their own realm Asgard which they called The Bifrost. Even though the calculations in the theory of relativity predicts a wormhole it is of course still hypothetical as none have been observed or discovered yet, but researchers are still keeping their fingers crossed, some even proposed that some dark matters may actually be wormholes. So i am still really skeptical about man achieving Time travel because of the herculean variables that are before us, maybe man can learn to construct the future by analyzing and predicting correctly but time travel i really doubt. Even if wormholes are observed first hand and are artificially reconstructed here, i think the energy needed to stabilize such devices can tear up the earth or wear down our gravitational force totally and that would be most catastrophic. . .Anyway let us keep looking to the future with hope, am still yet to find a limit to what we can achieve [/b] 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Church General Overseer Converts To Muslim And Gives Reasons by johnydon22(m): 5:21pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
hazyfm1:The hypocrisy in religions are just uncanny.. If he converted to Christianity from Islam it wouldn't be End Time things right? 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 5:19pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Eddlad:You hope for enlightenment but do not hope to read, can someone deceive themselves any more than that? 7 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 5:12pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Eddlad:If i wanted a summary it wouldn't have been that long, if you can't read it then move on 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by johnydon22(m): 5:10pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Lol. . . This is not the first or second time i have lectured you on human morality concept, its not my fault if you can't learn.... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by johnydon22(m): 5:01pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Delusiongirl20:This is not the first time this guy has brought the morality argument here and have been trashed many times. . . its just a very feeble argument that has no basis and am just too tired of treating the same old crap over and over again! 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 4:55pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Eddlad:You can simply read it again and then think about it 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is The End Of Time As We Know It Here? by johnydon22(m): 4:50pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Delusiongirl20:Lol... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is The End Of Time As We Know It Here? by johnydon22(m): 9:43am On Aug 03, 2015 |
[b]You know one of the signs of end time is that the STARS will be falling down to earth like Fig fruits. For someone to even write that shows they don't even know what a STAR is, shows they don't even know the SUN is a STAR and a small one at that. Shows that they wrote from their illiterate mindset thinking stars are the little dots they see in the sky, and if you claim a spirit inspired that then "That spirit is a stark illiterate" Nearest star to our own star the sun is alpha centauri and its 4 light years away, imagine thousands of years it will take it to fall from that distance seeing it can never fall at the speed of light. Then the size of alpha centauri and the earth is like a little bead and a large size 5football (its bigger tho) then imagine a football falling on a tiny bead and tell me if they will be any bead there.…even one STAR falling down will annihilate the sun, earth , mercury, venus and even mars. what else will be left for rapture when there is no earth...and the illiterates even wrote "STARS" showing its not even one For 21st century homo sapiens to swallow such absurd notion from middle age illiterate men is a huge insult to our very intellect [/b] 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities (giving Reason A Chance) by johnydon22(op): 9:19am On Aug 03, 2015 |
Cc. Seun |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Atheists Handle Morality In The Absence Of God by johnydon22(m): 7:12pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
LordReed:Psychology (the study of human behaviour) is a science, so before we can make any absolute statement on that we'll first have to carry out experimentations in order to observe and then tender our postulations based on real studied and observed facts. . . . So it is not ok for me to assume up either YES or NO. On a smaller scale; "YES". . giving an example with myself. I was born in a society where it is the norm for people to have the mindset that some people who don't believe as they do will burn in a literal fire forever, it was a normal mindset But i grew to disagree and find this idea very disturbing, barbaric and all round bad. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
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