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slimbiggy:
then, it means there could be no God, no hell, no heaven. So wat are we doing here?

You asked questions... lets wait for answers..

He knew lucifer would turn bad and rebel yet created him anyway..

He knew he would burn billions of people in hell for eternity over something he already pre-destined them to do yet he created them anyway.

He knew saul would turn bad yet made him king and afterwards regretted making him king when he already knew even before he was made king..

the list could go on and on and on... OMNISCIENT...prrrrrrrrrrrf joke

Maamin:
And he said that we humans were made of the same stuff with the stars?

Not so brilliant to me...

Tell me the materials you know of the stars are made of, let me even see if the guy really knows what he is arguing about?

Maamin:
And he said that we humans were made of the same stuff with the stars?

Not so brilliant to me...

The way you think and comprehend things baffles me... here is my original words to devian.. i showed him a hubble image of stars being born and said you thought you were made from a different stuff from everyother thing in the universe..

johnydon22:
Davien new stars being born i wonder if the guy thinks he is made from a different stuff than any other thing in the universe... before you forget remember he thinks magic did it..

This is what happens when someone do not know anything else to add in an argument, resorts to falsifying and misrepresenting words.. SMH too bad the only stuff you know of in the universe are the stars..

Maamin:
Hahahaha...calm down, not so fast..remember you asked a question from the beginning of this thread that lead us to this place right...is GIGO for me.

There is nothing new you have to teach me about the cosmos.

so you are could reason like this and you were asking if Jesus really existed hun!

Dont really have enough time to reply like I wanted but will be back.

Because you decided to bring science into your deity stuff...lmao...

Sorry back my question.. "Prove Jesus ever existed"

Rossikk:
He acted very unimpressed. But here was a miracle, and I was impressed, even if no one else was.
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8. The Lessons He Learned

The mystery of life has very little to do with intelligence. The universe is not an intellectual process at all. The intellect is helpful; it is brilliant, but right now that is all we process with, instead of our hearts and the wiser part of ourselves.

The center of the Earth is this great transmuter of energy, just as you see in pictures of our Earth's magnetic field. That's our cycle, pulling reincarnated souls back in and through it again. A sign that you are reaching human level is that you are beginning to evolve an individual consciousness. The animals have a group soul, and they reincarnate in group souls. A deer is pretty much going to be a deer forever. But just being born a human, whether deformed or genius, shows that you are on the path to developing an individual consciousness. That is in itself part of the group consciousness called humanity.

I saw that races are personality clusters. Nations like France, Germany and China each have their own personality. Cities have personalities, their local group souls that attract certain people. Families have group souls. Individual identity is evolving like branches of a fractal; the group soul explores in our individuality. The different questions that each of us has are very, very important. This is how Godhead is exploring God's Self - through you. So ask your questions, do your searching. You will find your Self and you will find God in that Self, because it is only the Self.

More than that, I began to see that each one of us humans are soul mates. We are part of the same soul fractaling out in many creative directions, but still the same. Now I look at every human being that I ever see, and I see a soul mate, my soul mate, the one I have always been looking for. Beyond that, the greatest soul mate that you will ever have is yourself. We are each both male and female. We experience this in the womb and we experience this in reincarnation states. If you are looking for that ultimate soul mate outside of yourself, you may never find it; it is not there. Just as God is not "there." God is here. Don't look "out there" for God. Look here for God. Look through your Self. Start having the greatest love affair you ever had ... with your Self. You will love everything out of that.

I had a descent into what you might call hell, and it was very surprising. I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into hell was a descent into each person's customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not-knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the millions of souls around me had a little star of light always available. But no one seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own grief, trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling out to that light, like a child calling to a parent for help. Then the light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me an insulated me from all that fear and pain. That is what hell really is.

So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The doors of hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk out of hell together.

The light came to me and turned into a huge golden angel. I said, "Are you the angel of death?"

It expressed to me that it was my oversoul, my Higher Self matrix, a super-ancient part of ourselves. Then I was taken to the light.

Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn't that going to be wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash atoms to see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm, and all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that ... God. With atomic colliders they are not only seeing what is in here, but they are creating particles. Thank God most of them are short-lived milliseconds and nanoseconds. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating too, as we go along.

As I saw forever, I came to a realm in which there is a point where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next fractal, the next level. We have that power to create as we explore. And that is God expanding itself through us.

Since my return I have experienced the light spontaneously, and I have learned how to get to that space almost any time in my meditation. Each one of you can do this. You do not have to die to do this. It is within your equipment; you are wired for it already.

The body is the most magnificent light being there is. The body is a universe of incredible light. Spirit is not pushing us to dissolve this body. That is not what is happening. Stop trying to become God; God is becoming you. Here.

The mind is like a child running around the universe, demanding this and thinking it created the world. But I ask the mind, "What did your mother have to do with this?"

That is the next level of spiritual awareness. Oh! My mother! All of a sudden you give up the ego, because you are not the only soul in the universe.
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9. What Is Heaven?

One of my questions to the light was, "What is heaven?"

I was given a tour of all the heavens that have been created: the Nirvanas, the Happy Hunting Grounds, all of them. I went through them. These are thought form creations that we have created. We don't really go to heaven; we are reprocessed. But whatever we created, we leave a part of ourselves there. It is real, but it is not all of the soul.

[size=20]I saw the Christian heaven. We expect it to be a beautiful place, and you stand in front of the throne, worshipping forever. I tried it. It is boring! This is all we are going to do? It is childlike. I do not mean to offend anyone. Some heavens are very interesting, and some are very boring. I found the ancient ones to be more interesting, like the Native American ones, the Happy Hunting Grounds. The Egyptians have fantastic ones. It goes on and on.[/size] There are so many of them. In each of them there is a fractal that is your particular interpretation, unless you are part of the group soul that believes in only the God of a particular religion. Then you are very close, in the same ball park together. But even then, each is a little bit different. That is a part of yourself that you leave there. Death is about life, not about heaven.

I asked God, "What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?"

And Godhead said, with great love:
"I don't care."
That was incredible grace. What that meant was that we are the caring beings here.

The Ultimate Godhead of all the stars tells us:
"It does not matter what religion you are."
They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, "I don't care," I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

I went over to the other side with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on Earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, "We do not need this any more."

Now we are actually in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now "soul size." Do we have soul size answers? YES!

The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing.

Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy.

What happens when we dream? We are multi-dimensional beings. We can access that through lucid dreaming. In fact, this universe is God's dream. One of the things that I saw is that we humans are a speck on a planet that is a speck in a galaxy that is a speck. Those are giant systems out there, and we are in sort of an average system. But human beings are already legendary throughout the cosmos of consciousness. The little bitty human being of Earth/Gaia is legendary. One of the things that we are legendary for is dreaming. We are legendary dreamers. In fact, the whole cosmos has been looking for the meaning of life, the meaning of it all. And it was the little dreamer who came up with the best answer ever. We dreamed it up. So dreams are important.

After dying and coming back, I really respect life and death. In our DNA experiments we may have opened the door to a great secret. Soon we will be able to live as long as we want to live in this body. After living 150 years or so, there will be an intuitive soul sense that you will want to change channels. Living forever in one body is not as creative as reincarnation, as transferring energy in this fantastic vortex of energy that we are in. We are actually going to see the wisdom of life and death, and enjoy it.

As it is now, we have already been alive forever. This body that you are in, has been alive forever. It comes from an unending stream of life, going back to the Big Bang and beyond. This body gives life to the next life, in dense and subtle energy. This body has been alive forever already.

Christian heaven, native american heaven, different types of heaven... this just proves everything you were yapping about here is delusional yarn from delusioned folks... I can't believe an adult really believe this crap..

Rossikk:
The brain IS shut down. Blood stops flowing to the brain, heart etc. NOTHING works in the body. The patient is physically dead in all but name. Only not pronounced as such pending revival attempts. So NDE's should NOT happen if death is truly the end of consciousness. Scientists have no explanation for it.

A near-death experience ( NDE ) is a personal experience associated with [size=20]
impending death [/size], encompassing multiple possible sensations including
detachment from the body, feelings of levitation, total serenity, security,
warmth, the experience of absolute dissolution, and the presence of a
light.... wikipedia encyclopedia

You just gave your own explanation to support you analogy and you also forgot to add that it was found to be more common on people that had heart attacks...

Lol i really miss doing this stuff.. You put the pen into the cassette hole area then spin either clockwise or anti-clockwise depending on which you want to do... rewind or fast forward..

ROSSIKE:
YOU go and study the accounts of NDEs and learn for yourself.

I have and it only sounds to me like a Psychological and hallucinatory phenomenon induced by impending death (Mind you they are not actually dead yet, and the brain isn't shut down already)

ROSSIKE:
Knowing that there is far more to life beyond this current experience alters what you consider living to the "fullest" on this level. For instance, your desperation to be rich and famous suddenly seems unnecessary. Excessive materialism and the desire for acceptance by others lose their hold on you etc.. You lose the fear of death, you lose the fear of God, religion, etc... It's actually freedom you gain.

and your proof of after life is near death experience? In what form will you exist in, in what extension, which planet?

Maamin:
Hahaha..i will answer your folly with the same folly..so John you are made from the same matter as the stars and yet a star have magnitude of radiance yet you are not.

Tell me you are joking..why are you not a star up in the sky providing light at least?

Are you this dumb? that you cannot even discern meaning to something...
The universe comprises of everything in the universe including man, we are all part of the universe. Do you by any chance think you were made from a material that is not part of the universe? To bad you mentioned stars only mention everyother thing you know of. now below is the elemental composition of a human, check and see if their is any material not found in the universe. . Your question is like asking "why is the hydrogen in stars glowing and that of humans are not" is it not childish to you even?

religious people can never cease to amaze me..

davien:
lol.....he's statements so far are mostly non-sequiturs(no valid points)

Just desperately trying to defend sky-daddy

Maamin:
Talking about fossils is it those ones that are riddle with so many missing links?

Thank you for the bolded...that is to show that "that which can be ascertain without prove can also be disregarded without prove"

first am not an evolutionist meaning i dont quite agree with evolution yet, its still under study even as we speak, i just say "I dont know" when faced with the question how things came to be.

Now if u can refute evolution am sure you will be given a nobel price for it...I'd like to see you try

Lmao..can we now dismiss this your god cus it lacks any shred of evidence at all, atleast the evolution theory has evidence from fossiles as you agree on but still have missing links which calls for more studies.

But your sky daddy have 0 evidence or proof... So let us dismiss it likewise

davien:
simple....red shifting galaxies should highlight that...among the easiest clues.

Davien new stars being born i wonder if the guy thinks he is made from a different stuff than any other thing in the universe... before you forget remember he thinks magic did it..

Maamin:
Wonder how it is easier to prove that Santa claus is real than evolution theory

And am not a scientist or darwin who proposed evolution...Evolution is just another scientific study not belief and has many fossils, archeological findings supporting the theory..
I love your desperation tho

Maamin:
Awww..now that is sad

Right back at you hun!

Lol amu sorry ok . . . Wonder how it is easier to prove Julius Caesar existed than your Jesus of nazareth

Maamin:
Can you prove that your great grand father or fore fathers existed ?

hehehehehehe nope i cant ...

oya now prove Jesus existed

Op should first prove that Jesus even existed before trying to know the birthday..

emmyskies:
Yeah, you can amuse yourself with the mighty and infallible word of the Most High GOD but just an advice:

A man that swallows a whole coconut should have enough faith in his anus.

Hope you guys would be ready for the consequence for eternity when same word you ridicule stand to condemn you

Lolzzz and balaam's donkey talked.... anyway i hope you are also ready to face allahs consequences in eternity when your unbelief in allah stand to condemn you..

Blakjewelry:
Like I said before in one other thread, going to Mars is not the problem but setting up a full settlement on Mars is not in the equation of any mainstream scientific organization. The main of going to Mars is purely for research purpose and maybe one day we maybe use it as an outpost. That Mars one mission is a big joke, the main aim of nasa now is to spot any planet outside our solar system with the potential to sustain life and to carry out details studies about the planet condition. And one other even if we are looking for planet outside our system, we should also be considering the remaining life span of planet. For Mars is not a good choice, when our grow old even mars will not be safe

You have a good point... lets see how mission Mars one goes, if they will send an unmanned craft to mars by 2018 as proposed..

davien:
So a website plus a bunch of people who believe it all agree....that's the very same thing that goes for conspiracy theories, alien abductions, homeopathy,etc...does that justify all of them?

For the term its call Near death means not dead yet..

malvisguy212:
the exedus is historical read here http://www.bibleandscience.com/archaeology/exodus.htm

lmao this your link is funny i am so sorry for christians and their desperate attempt to prove mythology is real.. Goodluck with that
let me show you what wikipedia encyclopedia says..

Scholars agree that the Israelite community arose peacefully and internally
in the highlands of Canaan[17] - in the words of archaeologist William
Dever, "most of those who came to call themselves Israelites ... were or
had been indigenous Canaanites." [18] Israelite religion emerged gradually
from the Canaanite milieu. extracted from http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

and another

The Book of Exodus is not historical narrative in any modern sense.
Modern history writing requires the critical evaluation of sources, and does
not accept God as a cause of events. But in Exodus, everything is
presented as the work of God, who appears frequently in person, and the
historical setting is only very hazily sketched. The purpose of the book
is not to record what really happened, but to reflect the historical
experience of the exile community in Babylon and later Jerusalem, facing
foreign captivity and the need to come to terms with their understanding of
God.
Although mythical elements are not so prominent in Exodus as in Genesis ,
the echoes of ancient legends are crucial to understanding the book's
origins and purpose: for example, the story of the infant Moses's salvation
from the Nile has its basis in an earlier legend of king Sargon, while the
story of the parting of the Red Sea trades on Mesopotamian creation
mythology. Similarly, the Covenant Code (the law code in Exodus 20:22–
23:33) has notable similarities in both content and structure with the Laws
of Hammurabi . These influences serve to reinforce the conclusion that the
Book of [size=20]Exodus originated in the exiled Jewish community of 6th-century
Babylon[/size], but not all the sources are Mesopotamian:the story of Moses's
flight to Midian following the murder of the Egyptian overseer may draw on
the Egyptian Story of Sinuhe . extracted from http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Exodus

RikoduoSennin:
Calm down and Really Listen to what I say not what you suppose I say. Balaam's talking donkey was not a metaphor, it was more like "Ventriloquist"- speaking through an object (the same way cartoon characters could talk). Someone spoke through the donkey like a man speaks through a puppet.

You know to be honest the type of defence you guys pull sometimes is so funny.. balaam's donkey talked and that is it

RikoduoSennin:
Thanks for the Leprosy tip.

you welcome

RikoduoSennin:
Man is still flawed he still can not escape Sickness, old age and death. He eradicates one and two or more takes that one place not to mention more resistant strains.

how many have your God eradicated?

RikoduoSennin:
Jesus Healed different kinds of ailment and God is as real as man himself.

Can you prove Jesus even existed? For the issue of God am sure you know their are more than 5,000 so which of them do you think is real and how did you know its real?

Rilwayne001:
My body couldnt take it again

alright bro...

Blakjewelry:
It is not an issue of doubt, man will Set foot on Mars in no distant future, but colonizing it is out of equation. If you nasa very well you will see there are talk of sending man to Mars but they are not discussing permanent stay. Their plan of going there is purely for research purpose. The future of man lies outside the solar system and not on Mars. I believe I don't have highlight some of the problems anybody who tries to inhabitant Mars will face as I believe you already knows that. High radiation, low gravity, low pressure and some other factors. All these can be manage for a short time but what of the long time effects, and also remember co2 has it tolerant level to plant. At certain level it becomes toxic to plant and animal.

Read about the Mars One mission planning to move the first humans to mars for permanent stay by 2025..
they may be many huddles to consider and overcome but its possible..
In order for the crew to survive in Mars, first supplies will needed to be seeded on Mars. This
will allow the colonist have what they need when they land. Robotic
construction might allow living places to be made before the colonists
arrive. A ship with life supports will need to be constructed in earth orbit.
The ship will need hydroponics so that the crew can eat while they are
traveling and first arrive. Once they arrive at Mars, geothermal or even
nuclear energy could be used to power the base and hydrogen fuel cells to
produce water. Communication satellites would also need to be seeded
throughout the solar system so that communication can always be
established, even though it will take several minutes to travel.
Even though there are many hurdle for Martian colonization, it is still
possible. Robotic Mars exploration (mars rover) has paved the way to future missions.
We know how do alleviate some problems, while utilizing other method to
turn a difficulty into an aid. Colonization could even be successfully before
we die, which would allow us to possible be some of the first people to
travel to another planet.

Rilwayne001:
lols.

I do drink it b4, but not again

chai why naaaa

Rilwayne001:
See your head

deh dia na... come join me ooo

ooman:
My own answer: Kangaroo.

Right?

lol.. how many times u go answer ni

Na only u waka come?

Blakjewelry:
Mars can never be colonize

People once thought man can never reach the moon.. There are no limits to what we can achieve..

mujahid1339:
in Pakistan the punishment could be life imprisonment or even death.

Just for burning a fvcking book

and you think this is right?

Sugarpeaches:
Satyr

ooman:
Seconded.

lmao... both of you are wrong..

Only one these is not in the bible can you answer which is it?