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undercat:
Lol, thanks. But I no dey any box before o.

hahahahaha abi

undercat:
If evil is a consequence of freewill and God has freewill, then evil came from God.

If it is acceptable for a being with freewill to be incapable of commiting evil, then God created evil by allowing the capacity to commit evil in man when man was created.

Long story short, na God.

Lol seriously you are becoming very skeptic and reasoning outside the box of all you have been indoctrinated into from childhood...

Impressive

lamako:
Jealousy is also from the side of evil .how did it originate from satan's mind? Or was he created with it.

According to their mythical fables satan was a perfect sinless being most beautiful and perfect angel in a sinless realm...

Then from whence did this jealousy come?

If Satan was as perfect as they said from whence did his evil thought come?

Why are they not more angels that are rebelling now ?

malvisguy212:
I form the light, and create darkness: I
make peace,[size=20]and create evil[/size]: I the
LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7,

However, evil is not really a created
thing. You can't see, touch, feel, smell or
hear evil. It is not one of the
fundamental forces of physics, nor does
it consist of matter, energy, or the spatial dimensions of the universe. Still, skeptics like to claim that God created evil and cite the Bible to "prove" their point. The Bible is quite clear that God is not the author of evil and insists that He is incapable of doing so.

[size=20] ok [/size]

muafrika:
Am a Christian and I have my own understanding on this. But am interested in your explanations. So go ahead...

(No blasphemers please, or the Angel of God will do the same to anyone who does that here.) I can't stand that.

Consider;

Psalms 17:13,14 -

Arise O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:

From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.
KJV.

Now go ahead,

Isaiah 45:7

Jubilee Bible 2000
I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am
the LORD that does all this.

King James 2000 Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create calamity: I
the LORD do all these things.

American King James Version
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the
LORD do all these things.

American Standard Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am
Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the
Lord that do all these things.

Now ask me again from whence evil came!!!

wristwatch:
Whether black or white, he is our saviour.

Saviour from what

kevoh:
You need to take it easy with the kind of arguments you make with the religitards outside. Then can kill you just because you are present hard facts about a god's existence.

I once mentioned I was atheist at my workplace but quickly proclaimed I was joking a week after when I noticed hostilities from my co-workers. You don't mess with over-zealous religious folks before they inplicate you in a transaction you know nothing about. Only my H.O.D who happens to be muslim can still discern that I am atheist after listening to how I present arguments on religion.

More and more people start using their heads everyday..

It can only get better and the rate by which youths dumb their religions is blazing like wild fire.

21st century youths are tired of living their life based on some archaic, mythical concept (deitys) more people are starting to find out that shiiit doesnt exist.

It can only get better... NL is a perfect example

cupid1:
please where did u read dem cos i really need to do so too, i've only heard of them...even the lost book of the bible

They are called the gnostic gospels, their were more than 300 hundred of them but most were burnt after the council of nice voted in four gospels you have now out of more than 300... Only few are still around.

Btw some part of the quran were based on these gnostic gospels too

Those bunch of old catholic bishops in the council of nice along with emperor Constantine carefully formulated all this christian fables that people now kill themselves over..

simplex2:
The jews concocted a story about how life started from their race and how they are the fathers of all nation and you lot believe them? Smh! Try and calculate the distance from garden of eden (present day middle east) and Australia you will understand that no level of migration will make man move from middle east to australia within 2,000 yrs.
And the Noah flood? Another bull crap! Talking snakes and donkeys? Bull crap!
The more you understand that these things were concocted for a supremacy purpose, the better for you.

The bible you adore, reverence and defend with all your life was assembled at the council of Nice by mere mortals like you and I. They threw away some books they felt wouldn't suit their purpose and accepted the ones they wanted.

Asin eeehn bro e tire me tho i dont blame them we were all indoctrinated into it by our parents... Snake talked, donkey talked, whale swallowed a human then vomit am again habaaaaa na only us waka come? ..

Every society have their own mythology on how life began... Egyptians, igbos, greeks, persians, yorubas, every race and people have theirs even the jews plagiarized theirs from the mesopetamian creation myth but these guys prefer the jewish fable that was sold to them by foreign missionaries making them ignore their own folklores and mythology... thats why africa seems to be lost in terms of history

OREMUSSANCTUS:

Bro please na

simplex2:
Wow! Nice thread. There are loads of issues we can discuss in-house. Was thinking of starting a thread about certain things but decided against it; since the obvious religious felas will invade it with their fanaticism.



This is the first issue bugging me: My girlfrnd. We've dated for yrs now and we're planning on getting married next year. But one thing has always lingered in my mind: religion!
I'm agnostic but she is a devout christian. We started dating long time ago when I was still a christian; but after my mum's death, I realized all the promise of ask and it shall be given were false. That was the spark to my quest for answers: and I discovered I've been lied to ALL MY FVCKING LIFE!

I was supposed to see her parents this xmas but I developed cold feet and called it off. I'm yet to tell her I've left religion; she's yet to understand why I backed-off. Don't get me wrong, we love each other like mad! This is our 4th year dating. I do love her but the issue of spending the rest of your life with someone of contrasting believe scares the shit out of me; what happens to the children? What if she believes she can rope me in and then turns to a nag thereafter? I know I should tell her, but I'm still scared of loosing her. I wouldn't want her dumping her religion because of me so its kind of complicated.

What do you guys think?

I understand you so well, Bro i think you should talk to her your love should transcend religion.

Tell her exactly what you are and your stance on religion.

But If u eventually marry her it will be good to wed her in the church since its her belief the only that matters is that the marriage certificate have been signed and you two love each other.

But first talk to her

OREMUSSANCTUS bro everything you are doing here clearly shows you are obsessed with islam **espacially muhammed and aisha ish** You are trolling this thread with these unnecessary pictures..

Please bro take it easy... its totally uncool

nairalandbuzz:
Luke 6:13; 17:5; 24:10 proves the disciples are also apostles.

I do not agree that Mark and Luke are written by someone else.

Even if I am not sure of Mark, I am so sure of Luke and John.

We are talking about the 12 apostles and you are talking all the disciples..

what is it with you guys...

You are so sure of John and luke that were copied from mark but you are not sure of mark... very funny..

Am gonna snap the introduction of Luke, Mark and John so you will see none was written by the person bearing those names you see on it..

btw i like the way you changed from vouching for all the 4 gospels to reducing to only 2 that were copied from another that you are not vouching for lolzz

chai.... the the type of poo people assume eeehn e tire me

Theists just have no idea of what exactly it is they believe in

johnydon22:
how did you recognize this your truth?

who told you?

which book told you?

how did you know it was truth?

How do you still tag yourself a muslim whilst you hype a belief that seems more absurd than even the islam mythical fables and christians mythical fables...

Gatiano why are you leaving my above questions unanswerered na

gatiano:
why 50%?

ok oya let me manage 10%....oya start bringing your tithes and all the muslims too

I need Rilwyne, empiree, tolar9ja and others and Ifeann, malvisguys212, OREMUSSANCTUS and others on this thread to come and hear gatiano oooo....

Even atheists tire for this one ni

gatiano:
When i wake up from a nightmare, or i feel terrified, i exclaim the name of Jesus, This Jesus name is equally powerful as the real name of johnydon.
johnydon is not a blackman's name.
Why should Allah require tithe?

Oh i am alllah na, so i need all of you who worship me to be paying me 50% of all you own..

Pr0ton:
To you now, the Christians and Muslims are wallowing in ignorance.



What kind of experience?

Seriously their is no type of absurd belief and God concept one will not see on nairaland..

gatiano:
If you believe in the fact that Yahweh and Allah is a spirit, then that is ignorance in believe that which you can't touch or see. When you recognise ALLAH as the supreme Man, then believe becomes a reality. anything exprienced can never be termed ignorance.

Their is nothing like spirit, its just an abstract mythical concept...

Now allah is now a supreme man and not collection of all black men again?

Seriously you need to check this your ridiculous shiitty assumptions you term knowledge cus its not...

This your belief is even more absurd and more delusional than people who believe in spirits...

gatiano:
exactly! but not yet, until will bring The GOD in us out. christian will say, spirit should come into them, they are wrong, spirit can only come out of them. so let us bring out the GODSPIRIT IN US.

hehehehehe so Johnydon22 is now your allah...

Guy you sure say you well.?

Hehehehehehe i will love it for you all to be paying me tithe shaa as allah!

gatiano:
I recognized the truth. For me to recall, i will have to go through a long process of education and ritual (ritual not in the sense of what the modern world has planted in you psyche), Ritual is a form of education where you would have to experience reality of the past first hand by yourself. It all start from loving yourself first (meaning seeing every black member of the universe as myself), i tend to be very happy and vibrant in the presence of my black people even through nairaland. When two or more are gather, there is GOD.

how did you recognize this your truth?

who told you?

which book told you?

how did you know it was truth?

How do you still tag yourself a muslim whilst you hype a belief that seems more absurd than even the islam mythical fables and christians mythical fables...

Pr0ton:
Chai. So na you muslims dey worship

Hahahahahaha you don see am naaaa...

but them no deh pay tithe give me ooo

Pr0ton:
Johnydon22 you be Allah now.

see me ooo the guy say i be allah ooo ... i don die...:

check out the type of shiiit people are asserting ..

gatiano:
Exactly! you do not recall, That is the real defination of evil which proper meaning is self-forgetfulness. As Jesus said he was at the beginning (which is true) so were you too at the beginning. You are a beam of your original self(your first self) who created everything. Atheism is your new exprience which you are learning.

Lol you how dah heck did you get to know?

you recalled?

gatiano:
[b[Remove the veil of religion from your eyes[/b], and see reality for what they really are, the science of things and creation.
Yahweh is A Man names, the correct pronounciation of Yahweh i am not sure of (YAHWEHU), Yahweh is Allah, as You are blackman is also an Allah.

Hey dude in case you havent noticed i am an atheist ... I dont believe this your yahweh and allah shiiiiit...

Anyway from all you have said it can be asserted that you mean that yahweh is just a blackman just like you then ALLAH is a collection of all black people... which means that doesnt potray anything supernatural..

@bolded ...That beautiful moment when a muslim (religious)Is advicing an atheist ...

gatiano:
ALLAH is all the black people in DIVINE UNITY. Unity means one and it is divine. Yahweh is part of all those black people just like me and you(if you are black or black halfcaste or albino), the requirement is having the throne of GOD in your temple(body) which is the black germ or the dorminant gene. as you know very well, everything comes from blackness. that is the order of things.

@bolded i take it to mean that ALLAH is not one supernatural entity but collection of all black people...

Lol guy which kind muslim you be self?

Where exactly do you get all this your black allah, yahweh shiiiiiit..

Am a black i dont recall creating any universe with anybody...

anyway btw #WeFuckingLoveAtheism

Pr0ton:
I'm also aware of the real person of Yahweh. I just had to ask to confirm if it's still the same Yahweh.


One Bible
Different versions
Different interpretations


Different holy spirits

Malvisguy212.. Yahweh was born. He is not self-existent.

But seriously this is funny, the guy is claiming yahweh was born but allah was not, is that no religious bigotry?

Abeg let me invite these christians to come and engage gatiano joor

ifeann, OREMUSSANCTUS, and whoever know truthman real moniker name should invite him too... lolzz

gatiano:
ALLAH is not an extra-terrestrial to any place, ALLAH made the universe and everything in it.
Yahweh was born here.

Ok very good you just cleared the question i asked...

Allah is a God that made the universe and everything, then yahweh was just a blackman born here on earth... yes?

Pr0ton:
Yahweh was born? By Yahweh you mean Jesus or God?

lol am sure the distinctions are clear enough... Yahweh and Jesus are different individuals..

He meant yahweh... lolzz their is nothing person will not hear in nairaland ooo
am just asking him about allah to see if he was a blackman too cus he never mentioned it.