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Reyginus:
Be my guest. To begin with, why and how is the question irrational?

First give us ur answers to the questions lets see how you can relate to the question..

davidylan:
If you dont know how it relates then maybe you should go and find out and come back? I mean the mind boggling idea that you would pretend that atheists are not the biggest champions of the big bang theory is quite laughable. Should we start with Stephen Hawking? lol the sheer ignorance.

As far as we know even pope francis endorsed the big bang theory but i dont see you adopting it.

stephen hawkings is stephen hawkings not johnydon or any other atheist out there... atheist have nothing in common except disbelief in anything supernatural so how does stephen dawkins belief of the big bang theory concern any other atheist out there?

Now who is exhibiting ignorance by asserting all atheist believe the big bang theory?

davidylan:
i'm not sure why you think shouting makes you anymore believable. If you dont know how the universe began then on what grounds are you ridiculing the theory of others? I mean... even your signature is a copy of Zach Braff's famous quote... wonder when these guys will have anything original to share wit us peons.

Nobody knows thats the ground... we can only try to know through scrutinization of available datas and evidences and not say a magical sky man did it... gerrit?

davidylan:
After reading that a spark of light was all it took to created the most complex biological creature on earth through a process of trial and error, i also dissolved in explosive laughter at the ignorant people who call that "common sense".

That you do not believe a bunch of scientific theories how does that affect or concern any atheists? did we make the theories?

Am sure none of the atheist here have claimed the universe started with big bang...

So get your facts straight to see who are laughing at.... its the scientists, so i guess you should gather ur facts well, go and disprove them am sure they will give you a nobel price...

joseph1832:
None of the above. I believe in the existence of a supreme being, plain and simple.

deist then

davidylan:
the "reality" of what? the big_bang theory?

You see thats the mistake you all make assumptions and making unsure assertions..

[size=20] Most atheist do not believe the big bang theory, myself included.. I do not claim to know how the universe started and neither can anybody claim to know... We all opened our eyes and saw the world we werent there to see how anything started..so we just say WE DONT KNOW [/size]

do you now see?... so now tell us the myth you are refering to again?

Weah96:
Who cares about the way the universe looks? It didn't affect my decision to quit religion and embrace reality.

Seriously eeehn bro this guys just dont get it...

davidylan:
so basically you dumped one "myth" for another myth? Good to know.

Can you tell us that other myth? Since when have reality become a myth?

educate us more boss

malvisguy212:
“
Look at Satan's reason for rebelling
against God. It's not that he doesn't
recognize that God is greater than he is.
He does. It's just that he doesn't want to
play by anybody else's rules. This idea
that it is better to reign in hell than to
serve in heaven is Satan's motto, and it
turns out that this is also the motto of
contemporary atheists such as
Christopher Hitchens.

How did you now satans reason for rebelling, where did you read it from?, where you there?

How did you even know that their was a rebellion, so heaven is also another middle east where riots and rebellions occur?

anybody reading the op will see it is just another deceptive thread that need not be taken seriously...

First the universe is still expanding (means it is still on a formation process, so if u think a god did it means its work is not yet fully done cus the universe is not fully complete yet)

the op should create his own universe first then tell us what he created then we can see how it is done...

tobechi74:
Okay. Here is your chance to design a universe that is better than the one we live in. [b[Many people claim that the poor design of our universe and/or God's involvement or lack thereof results in a universe that is unacceptable[/b]. In order to present a thorough model, please address all the following issues:

Now call those many people to come and address the op why involving all nairaland atheists... or better still why dont you make it a general question for both theists and atheists to see everyone's concept of a perfect universe.

tobechi74:
1.Will the beings you create be equal to you or less powerful?

2.What degree of free will will you allow to those beings?


3.How will you prevent those beings from hurting you, each other and their creation?


4.What will you do with those beings who break your rules?

5.What laws of physics will you use?


I encourage you to "think outside the box." The universe you design does not have to be similar to our universe. Change the laws of physics. Think about gravity, thermodynamics, matter, energy, etc. Think about the beings who you create. How will they interact with you and each other (you don't have to use the five senses that we have)? My goal is to get you to think deeply about the issues of free will and love and how those issues are affected by the physical laws. I look forward to your ideas. Here are some other people's ideas:

Sir why dont you give us an example of how its done by creating yours first and we will all follow suit

AllNaijaBlogger:
One of the biggest reasons why i can't ever be an atheist is the arrogance. Self-absorbed anti-religious narcissism..

really?

Reyginus:
I don't think you understand him. He is only asking you to use your imaginations and guide your perfect universe. Don't bring God into it. Do you understand?

And what exactly do you know about the universe that can help you do that?.. habaaa sometimes you guys should check questions before asking it...

You see sometimes some thread are just too stup.id to be taken seriously..

How can someone ask such nonsense stuffs as the op did?

The number 6 clearly shows you are just another christian who wants to use ex-atheist tag to apply deception...

We can as well reverse number 4 and say theists argue with atheist because they want to be free of the god concept...

Amefrica:
3. Does God exist? The universe operates by uniform laws of nature.
Why does it?

This is just a senior brother of the number one reason...

The universe is still evolving, it is still expanding (which means it still on its formation process) How does the uniform law of nature point to a God...

you claim the universe is perfect but its not even near completion nor perfection yet, it is still in formation.

Galaxies colliding into galaxies, asteroids crashing into planets and annihilating the planets... you missed this information huh?

[size=20] And for the record The great andromeda galaxy and the milky way galaxy (our own galaxy) are both on a collision course [/size]

Amefrica:
2. Does God exist? The universe had a start - what caused it?
Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous
explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang… This was
the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe,
the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

First @bolded big bang was not an explosion dumbo go and read your science books dumbo... ...

[size=20] Now you believe the universe could not have started on its own that something must have started it (God) but you believe God must have started on its own without anything anything starting it... is that not a violation of your own argument? If the universe cant start on its own that it must need a God then God cannot start on its on own must also need another God to start it and that other God also needs another to start it and the chain goes on and on..[/size]

Amefrica:
1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate
Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no
end. But here are a few:

Lol the complexity of the planet? they are billions of planets in our galaxy only talk more of billions of other galaxies.

You mentioned the good things in the planet but ignored the natural disasters and catastrophes... Tsunamis, earthquakes, ebola, volcanoe, hurricanes, cancer ...oh yes the count can go on..Thank you god for all that ..

[size=20] thousands of Gods from different civilizations and cultures all claim to be responsible for the planet, so which is it? was it zeus? allah? yahweh? el? horus? you know the list [/size]

rokiatu:
Hahaha lol you mean millions? It's unlimited dear. And I call those man invented God. Read my post again and please this time pay attention.

Same way yahweh and allah are man invented too... Yawhweh was invented in median, a mutilated version of the canaanite supreme God, isreal adopted it and gave it a very barbaric and saddistic attributes... then christianity took over it and modified it a bit...

So i take it to mean this God you are implying is neither yahweh nor allah cus both like all others are human inventions...

rokiatu:
read my post again, I didn't say a Muslim God or a Christian God. Are you slow in compression or what? I said the one and only God the one that made those Muslims and Christians.

oh yes and i just showed you they are two different individual deities or did you invent another one?

btw you did not mention the hindus, pegans, and other thousand gods humanity worship

@Op even though all this terribly portrayed reasons are all very simple to debunk let me leave that...

[size=20] Which of the Thousands God(s) exist...
zeus, yahweh, osiris, horus, allah, el, ba'al, molech etc [/size]

rokiatu:
my believe system does not believe there are millions of them, my believe system believe there's only one God. The same God that JESUS came to talk to the people about, the same GOD that Mohammed came to talk to the people about, the same God Abraham came to talk about. Any other human invented God is not true to me.


Why will I believe in something I can easily kill? Like say a cow, or something I can easily destroyed or a water cuz some people worship these stuff.


And I don't worship any prophet either like Mohammed or Jesus or any of the prophets for that matter. The god that created those prophets is the God that I worship. The one that created the earth you me and everything in it. That's the God I believe in. I may b not be blessed to see him but I believe there's so many evidence before my very eyes. The number been birth and death. The birth and death of a human being is no science. Don't you think there's a reason why everyone I mean EVERYONE dies? Is almost as if everyday of our lives, we are approaching our death, if God was not in charge of this some genius would have come up with a solution to stop it. But that is not the case, young people die, old people die, infants die, wealthy people die, famous people die, poor people die, arrogant people die, intellectuals die basically anyone can die at any time without no warning or permission. That alone should be enough to teach people with common sense that there is a God. And our life purpose was to come and prepare for the hereafter. Not forgetting the fact that we get sick, we get old all those are reminded from the almighty to humans that you have a creator, and you have a maker, you dint just spring into being.

But at the end of the day to each his own, but if you have common sense, you will sit down and think critically and you will know there's not a million Gods but only one. Yes there may be a billion traditions and so many religions but there's no single doubt in my mind that God is one. Mohammed, Jesus, and all the others prophets came with the same message and they all worshipped the same God. The only difference is that each prophet was send at a different time that's all. Most people now days may be adding politics and so many of their own traditions to religions but am not stupid to just follow the crowd, I have my own common sense, and that sense tells me there's only one God, the one that created me and the one that has the power to take my life. That's the one am talking about. The one and only the almighty God.

The christian God is a jewish deity named yahweh, the Muslim God is an arabic presentation of el the ugarit supreme God..

Google yahweh and allah and see

So which is it?

Zikdik:
All these points have been debunked at one time or the other here.

Lolzzzz i tire.... the guy even said the big bang was an explosion... hahahahaha certainly was not an atheist but a deist..

why dah heck are we talking about marriage here..

omat20:
We violate nature by creating land on top of water and by mining solid minerals which form the earth crust

how is it violating nature, it is even goof utilization.... anyways please how does that cause volcanoes, tonodoes, hurricanes... biko tell me

Neither controls nature both are mythical.. ..

Nature is reality so it works by itself...

omat20:
Natural disasters are caused by man's attempt to control nature; therefore there will always be consequences

Woooow please can you tell us how man caused natural disasters...Tonadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes, tsunamis, meteo showers... oya tell...

malvisguy212:
the rest of your question is between you and God. Good night.

Hahahahahahaha me and who now? I don die ...A mythical being!!!... ...am really looking forward to seeing him/her/it

Abeg bro Goodnight...sleep well boss..

colored:
lol I can only imagine how they would feed her with more fictional bible passage to keep her in the faith

Yeah something like [size=20] A donkey talked and balaam didnt run like hell but engaged the donkey in a conversation [/size] hahahahahahahahaha i don die for this people jareee....

malvisguy212:
5to 6years. The bible does not specifically say it but every educated man should know this.

So a 5 year old child is capable of making moral decisions according to you and should be held accountable for what they do?

Am still wondering the type of immorality such little ones can indulge in to warrant such horrifying, cruel and wicked death..

[size=20] why dah heck kill the children in the first place ...damn it[/size]

ifeness:
Question is: How was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed? Apparently the angels had to run for their dear lives too. Something sounds fishy here

Imagine such horrific cruel ideas, such barbaric fable concorted by the jews reeking of wickedness and inhumane and someone wants me to read such bull crap and start jumping up and down.. yahweh is all good and loving...INDEED...

malvisguy212:
surely there must have been children,the ones who are capable of making moral choice will be judge but the Ones who are not yet reach the age of reasoning will go to heaven, I give and example of aborted pregnancy, when the baby died who's fault is is? God? Or the parents who made the decision to terminate the pregnancy?

According to you which age is capable of making moral choices?

[size=20] Why fuuckinng subject the children to such cruel and wicked death in the first place, for something they dont even have no idea about? [/size]