₦airaland Forum

ifeness:
But a lot of people have already been killed in the past for not being Christians. You should learn to obey Yahweh your master.

bolkay47:
Mary and Joseph were black?

YourCoffin:
Lol! Good question!
Add revelation which was mainly from Paul's hallucinations...

Kedam:
That's duiring the old testament I can't because I know he won't. That's during ancient time.

esere826:
The bible is not the word of God
Though we tend to say this, but it is actually not.

that you call a baby an angel or your girlfriend your baby or chick doesn't mean that they are.
She's not a chicken but a grown woman.
that cute baby is no angel. he's got a pipi and has no wings.

So likewise the bible is not the word of God
it contains words from God, words from men, and words from demons too.
After all, a demon in the bible, as Jesus was about to cast it out, said "we are legion for we are many"
That was a demon, talking, and a man writing it down

If the bible is indeed the word of God
then we err in what we have
For we then should have only the original patches in the original languages without all these verses.

In that case also, we all should learn the original languages used in the scriptures and not add a jot or take away anything.

but NO
what we have are books where people try hard to bring together the original fragments and make it readable to all.

The bible is a great book which if properly discerned helps us in our journey with Christ who is the Word of God

torchwave:
Now let me break it down to your understanding. The fact that I said that sin was absent where Law was absent does not mean Law and sin were non-existent.

[size=20]Abraham was righteous because He faithfully obeyed the laws of God and he made sure his household did, too.[/size]

[i]God punished the people of Sodom and Gomorrah because they lived wickedly, rejecting His laws and though He gave them time to repent they continued in their wickedness which is disobedience to the laws of God. God said in His word that in the days of ignorance, He overlooks. If He did not overlook their sins, then surely they were not ignorant of His laws.

torchwave:
One thing is certain. God is not an author of confusion.
[size=20]
In the time of Abraham, God had not given any set of laws to guide mankind. And where there is no law, sin is absent. [/size]

Thus, in Abraham's case, his obedience was put to the test which was a symbolic action God used to show the world how He would sacrifice Jesus, His only begotten Son, to save mankind from eternal damnation.

After the laws came, never for once did God tell any man to commit a sin He has explicitly warned against in order to test their obedience to Him.

dorox:
In western secular society the rights of minorities are protected by law. That is why anyone who denies a member of the minority their right is promptly dealt with by the law.
Whereas in muslim majority countries, denying minorities of their right is a major part of their law. That is why you hardly ever see someone get arrested in those countries for the counless hate crimes against minorities let alone having a successful prosecution.

ifeness:
But your Bible said so. You must be annoying Yahweh by not doing that.

vooks:
How has your 'science' changed the world apart from encouraging your kind to hallucinate?

MrPresident1:
I am a CORE SCIENTIST AND RESEARCHER MY DEAR FRIEND, THIS IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION, THIS IS ABOUT HERITAGE, THE HERITAGE OF THE RACE THAT CIVILISED THE WHOLE FREAKING UNIVERSE.

Just to clear your mind, here is the meaning of science;

science
/ˈsʌɪəns/
noun: science
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Systematic study of structure and behavior through observation and research and experiment.

Start your search, Boy, may God give you understanding.

torchwave:
One thing is certain. God is not an author of confusion.

In the time of Abraham, God had not given any set of laws to guide mankind. And where there is no law, sin is absent.

Thus, in Abraham's case, his obedience was put to the test which was a symbolic action God used to show the world how He would sacrifice Jesus, His only begotten Son, to save mankind from eternal damnation.

After the laws came, never for once did God tell any man to commit a sin He has explicitly warned against in order to test their obedience to Him.

MrPresident1:
LoL.

It is you call

vooks:
Johny,
it is true long is long but nobody can dogmatically insist that that hairlength is 'too long' for a first century Jew. It pays to be honest; we lack sufficient information to make that call

MrPresident1:
The internet is there for you, what would it take you to READ AND DO SOME RESEARCH BY YOURSELF?

If you are a true seeker of knowledge, I challenge you to use the internet to seek the origins of the Negro. What you find will shock you I assure you.

READ AND DO SOME PERSONAL RESEARCH, BOY

vooks:
You are highly impervious to reason. If you can't convince a smoker on his errors, then your theology is presumptuous



they have long hair


I would call such long

Now, over to you.
What makes you imagine that what is long to vooks is what Paul regarded as 'long'?
Between vooks and and Paul we have different cultures separated by over 2000 years

torchwave:
That would be in direct violation of the commands of God as spelt out in the Bible, and as such is anything but the voice of God.

The Bible is the Christian's yardstick to determine the authenticity or falsity of any voice that claims to be God's.

nairalandbuzz:
Yes.

What is your source?

nairalandbuzz:
I have done it many times.

Binb:
@truthman this thread is about contradiction in the bible, it appears you cannot address the contradictions in the bible and you are ashamed to admit that so the next thing is to derail the thread. If you want us to discuss the Glorious Qur'an create another thread. if you want answers to claims of contradictions in the Qur'an you may visit this link and read the detailed rebuttal by Islamic Scholars: http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/quranerr.htm

NB did you notice any insult or name calling in my post, why cant you be decent enough to make your point without insulting islam or its tenets

nairalandbuzz:
I agree with you that Mark wrote his first before others using his as a foot print but I wont agree the part that they are anonymous. There are similar books with same theme n different context. The other gospels that you so claimed were not authoritative and so were not part of the canon.

Note: The canon is not an authoritative collection of books but a collection of authoritative books.

dalaman:
Religious people have gotten away with so much lies over the years. Non of them have been able to show us how God on his own created morality. We on the other hand have shown them how morality is a human creation, how it has evolved over the years and why it will continue to evolve as we learn knew things and adjust our way of life as human beings.

colored:
Nigerians? I think not. Nigerian females are one of the most religious peeps in the world

colored:
wow at seeing a female atheist! females tend to be very religious yet here you are; an atheist! I'm happy to know lol

dalaman:
I am not making this point at all. My point is that morality is a human creation and that remains a fact. People create moral systems to enable them enjoy the safety and well being of their various societies. People also created Gods and religions to justify authorities. All these things are man made ideas and creations. That is my point.



I don't know how humans came about, but I do know that we have a brain that allows us to be empathetic towards others.



People created the justice system so that they can be enable to enjoy the safety and well being of their various societies. Without justice non of this can be attained because the society will be in disarray.



We need to avenge the killing of others so that the killer will know that he too can not get away with taking the life of others.



We live in a world were our morality has evolved so much that things are now better. Conflict actually used to be the other of the day. During the time of the bible slavery was accepted, genocide was the order of the day, land grab was acceptable. The Romans invaded Israel and took over their lands during the time of Jesus. Israel was under occupation then. The Jews were praying for a Messiah to come and save them from the Romans. Stronger countries were going around grabbing lands and territories unopposed. There was chaos. Over time people learned that slavery was wrong, land grab was wrong, they formed charters and ended it. No God or religion was used to end these things. No God was used when the international criminal court was established. Reason was what was used to establish it. If Joshua or Moses of the bible were alive today the would have been sent to the international court of justice and tried as a war criminals. Morality is what humans have thought themselves over the years. The bible and Koran says that gays should be killed. Now societies have used reason to show that there is nothing wrong with being gay. God has nothing to do with morality, it is a human creation that is why it varies from society to society. People learn and teach each other moral principles through the use of reason.