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Jeromejnr:
Wetin I go do na. As I just dey see u everywhere trying to disprove the existence of your creator.

So I see you believe in the beauty of mankind. Beauty out of chaos.

I will like to get your take on how the darkness of space or the empty void before the big bang was brought into being.

Afterall my God is the only one who has said He is the beginning and the ending, the Alpha and the Omega. There was no beginning before Him. (We accept that by faith and figure that's all we can know for now. We don't try to reason out God with our little brains).

Please do tell.

hahahahahahahaha

@bolded, Allah have made that claim, Zeus have made that claim, mithras also, horus did, krishna did, jesus did... so which of them is ur God and why do you think is the real God and not the others..

disprove what?

when you have not proven it... lolzz

imagine the irony...

Why dont you worry about proving it first... ...

If you keep following me about, you are gonna love it...

KingEbukasBlog:
lmao .... but no na ... its obvious the expression isn't literal ... una too dey find fault ... by the way it was a way of showing He is a merciful God and his love is meant gor all ... atheism misunderstands God , that's the problem

What do you have against God anyway

Do you have anything against God (zeus)??

Hehehehehehehe

Jeromejnr:
You again . So I guess you have understood the place you were before you were conceived.

yeah you and i know this place.. didnt you see where i wrote it in bracket above...

[size=20] None existence...Nothingness [/size]

but come oo guy no deh follow me anyhow, abeg me deh homophobic ooo ogini sef

KingEbukasBlog:
the new atheist on the block ... howdy ... ur old friends are no longer trolling ... I'm impressed , they are coming back to their senses

e pain am

I never talked out of contest bro, i stated the obvious from the bible.. what have i done

If you can understand the state you were before you were conceived (complete state of none existence and nothingness) then you will understand the state you will go back to when you die...

oya make i occupy my own space shaaa

gatiano:
We can open another tread to discuss the lies of the lord of the rings. It is a pure blackman's history turned upside down. how are the black people depicted in that movies? as the orcs!
This is no fiction. however nobody is forced to trust or have faith in it, the purpose is to open our minds.

How am i supposed to argue with this guy

timonski:
lolzzzz. The yahweh i read about doesn't intend to burn people forever.

am guessing yours is different

So this one doesnt have a pit of fire where he will throw u in if you dont do good... hehehehehe abeg how many versions yahweh will you guys have abeg... version 0.1, version 1.0, version 3.1, version 4.4 ... lmao...

Christians have a mythical borrowed jewish God yahweh with a mythical former angel cum enemy lucifer (satan)

Now Op is with satan, hmmmm its all still the same thing... Yahweh and lucifer are both myths from same set of minds..

[size=20] OP Your God doesnt exist[/size] ... its all part one whole big myth...

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Jeromejnr:
Because u can't understand. Atheistic genius

lolzzz

He called gentiles dogs If you aint a jew, you are a dog to him

Jeromejnr:
Everything in the physical are but a shadow of the spiritual.

But like I said before, all this knowledge is beyond you.

lolzzz why dont you just answer the question spiritual genius

Jeromejnr:
You will wait tire to see if it will go down the drain

Why waste time loving when its all pointless. Afterall according to your belief we will all cease to exist one day.

I will like to get more insight into your way of reasoning.

You see? Your reason for believing in all this because you cannot imagine not existing anymore..

but when you understand how you were before you came into existence (birth) you will know how it will be when you go out of existence (death).

Their is every point in loving because i am in existence now and that is all that matters not wishing to get another life when you have not finished living this one.

I am not asking you to reason or think like me, I am asking you to reason and think not believe any mythical crap you see...think outside the box of all you have been indoctrinated into from birth...

you believe in existence after death now answer this question

[size=20] Ask urself assuming their is life after death in what extension will you exist,
in this planet earth our extension is the human body, we have form.
eyes, nose, mouth tongue, hands, feet, brain, lungs and all this are possible
because we have flesh then if their is a conscious soul that exists after
death in what state? in what form or extension will it exist since we all know
all the things i mentioned above are all human traits.[/size]

Jeromejnr:
So called "Myth" that has stood the test of time. Never has once been declared its a myth like the Greek or Egyptian mythology.

lolzz the egyptian and greek mythology by far predates that of christians.
those mythologies have influenced the people during their own time but have slipped down the waterfall of mythology now even most stories in the bible are classified myths.. google list of creation stories and see..

So this fable of Godman Jesus will soon go down the drain of mythology when given enought time remember it is barely 2thousand years old..lol.

And am sure if it was the egyptian mythology and the greek mythology that the white missionaries brought here in africa, you still would believe it like this one they gave u.

the fable of jesus was influenced by many mythology from different civilization... eg horus from egyptian mythology influences the story, mithras from roman mythology, apollo from greek mythology all contributed in making this fine nice fable you now hype... SO SOMEHOW YOU STILL BELIEVE THE EGYPTIAN AND GREEK MYTHOLOGY AND SOMEHOW IT STILL LINGERS TILL NOW

btw this mythical hell you now hype and fear is still as a result of greek mythology (tartarus) adopted by the christians... [size=20] see who doesnt believe in greek myth [/size]

Jeromejnr:
Naaa! Cus its spiritual.

myth...

Jeromejnr:
All this knowledge you are trying to find out is beyond you.

Cus its myth huh?

tpiah99:
Jesus quoted the Torah, Paul also quoted the Torah, same as the other apostles.

Did paul quote any of the words written in the gospels that were allegedly spoken by Jesus?

plaetton:
Well my dear, there is a clear difference between quoting someone or making reference to someone, and , taking the verbatim words of thers as if they were your own. That is the issue here.

And while we are on the subject of quoting, it is also interesting that Paul never quoted the teachings of Jesus in any ofhis numerous writings.
This is quite easy to understand considering that Paul never met Jesus, nor was he ever privy to the original teachings of jesus.

and all the gospels were yet to be written by the time paul supposedly preached which means all the myths about Jesus have not been worked..

Jeromejnr:
1. Not everyone that claims to have a vision is actually truly from God.

I am not arguing over the guy's vision of hell... the guy was dreaming for crying out loud..

Jeromejnr:
2. Hell was not created for humans. But for the rebellious angels. But humans that decide to follow the devil will end up there.

Hell was not created for humans but yet humans end up there... Do you even hear yourself? So this God don't even know exactly what he plans on doing with hell...(A zoo is meant for animals and not humans but humans who behave like animals will end up in zoo) check out how preposterous this shiiiit sounds

Jeromejnr:
3. The sin that takes one to hell is not "finite" as you think. Its not those stealing, lying e.t.c. It is who the person is. Those small outward sins are fruits of who the person is.

am starting to wonder sins that are infinte... Even life is finite, am starting to wonder how a finite life cab bore out something infinite (infinite sin) can you give me an example of an infinite sin?

Jeromejnr:
4. God Himself said He is a judge and must always judge sin. God is infinitely great beyond all measure. A small sin against Him is enough to send one to an eternal punishment.

He should first judge himself cus our basic sense of morality is way better than that of this mythical idea (god)

Jeromejnr:
That is why seeing how bad this place of punishment is He has done all he needs to do to show mankind love by sending His Son to die and take care of that. But if you refuse there's nothing He can do. He will have to judge you. And send you to where he locks up anything sinful for all eternity. No one will have an excuse on that day.

Since he doesnt want any humans to go to hell then why dont he just not send any human there, why create hell at all, so he makes hell to torture you, torture and kill his son to to save you from something he made for you... why make it at all in the first place.. why use your son as a human sacrifice to yourself before you can forgive sins, why not forgive it without having to murder or kill anyone...

Jeromejnr:
God is infinitely great and Holy beyond all human comprehension.
A prophet Isaiah in Isaiah 6 when he saw God's holiness began to condemn Himself. Saying "woe is me for I am undone, for my eyes have seen the Lord of hosts and I am a man of unclean lips and dwell among people of unclean lips".

He is so great He can hold the entire universe in the palm of His hands. The Bible says the heavens of the heavens cannot contain God.

PS: I know your an atheist sha. But just thought I should share that.

Lmao... Am wondering your criteria for holiness, a God that you believe wiped the whole earth out with flood without considering the little children is holy?
you need your concept of holiness checked again..

He is so great that he can hold the universe in the palm of his hands but yet is so imcompetent and confided only to in the pages of a poorly worked ancient primitive book on tiny earth... ooh god is so great and loving

[size=20] Even Lord Of The Rings Cannot Compare to this in the dimension of wild imaginative fictions [/size]

What kind of a sweet loving God will be aware that trillions of people are in a burning furnace he put them in, shouting, crying and screaming yet is ok with it... seems to me like a saddist who derive joy in burning things and punishments yet christians claim it is love but its attributes contradicts the very concept of love...

Yahweh (God of judaism and christians) and Allah (islam) are both impossible... mythical abstract beings that only exist within the pages of an ancient, mythical, fable riddled, self contradictory primitive ancient book...

What kind of barbaric and saddistic God will punish a finite sin with an infinite punishment... 100years of sin with an eternity of punishment (trillions of years are just a like a day compared to the idea of a eternity) Is this justice and does it in anyway look like a product of love?

No its barbaric

So a loving and Just God can condemn someone to eternity of punishment and torture. . and still claim to be loving and just? what kind of offence can ever merit an eternity of punishment... why is the human idea of justice so so better and more humane than that of a supposedly just God...

(People cant even see when crap was sold to them to keep them in perpetual fear and psychological enslavement)

timonski:
you erroneously assume that all christians believe in an "eternal fiery torment."

Nope... I am speaking from the perspective of those who do.

So now tell me your own version of yahweh doesnt have a pit where he intends to roast people? lolzzz

unveil:
Live a life a selflessness, do away with secret addictions, couch the lies even the supposed little white ones, seek out to help those in need, wear patience as a robe, keep the mind purified and clean and you will not have reason to ponder on these words you have posted here.

Go to youtube and watch videos of the universe, how incredibly endless it is, you, mr johny are like grain in a crowded cathedral, you should recognise this fact and live your life in reverence of the creator.

i am a humanist, that is the number one reason why i find God(s) like yahweh and allah impossible because they are both barbaric...

I live for myself not some abstract mythical creator.

Exactly when you consider the vastness of the universe, you will see we are even less than a grain of sand, then you will see their is nothing so important about you... Only then will you learn to live this one life you have and not vainfully hope for another one..

torchwave:
Perfectly natural reaction to one who never gives a thought to his eternal wellbeing. You think when you die you will expire into nothingness like vapour? Lol. One day, you'll be 50 billion years old and still endlessly counting but not here...it is either in heaven or hell...be wise forever than be wise for a moment.

hahahahahahahaha am so scared... ..

A christian threatening an atheist with hell (originally greek myth) is like a child threatening an adult that faires wont give em candy...

Chai...

torchwave:
Lol. First, since when did you become J.R.Tolkien, the writer of TLOTR?

Secondly, who has testified to seeing Gandalf, Legolas, Hobbits, Orcs and so on beyond the pages of the book as living reality, as truly existing beings? You?

Thirdly, if one has claimed to see them in reality, who is their witness? There are millions of witnesses all over the world to the existence of Jesus Christ and so so many to the existence of heaven and hell.

Fourthly, it is widely categorized as fiction by which the original writer rose to fame in his time being his only work of literature. None of the places or names in that book has any present proof or material in real life indicating their true existence because they're just work of the imagination. Can you say the same thing as the Bible?

only the bolded is ok to make any sane man to shake head and fashi it... seriously

...

[size=20] Infinite Punishment for Finite Sins
God is perfectly just, and yet he
sentences the imperfect humans he
created to infinite suffering in hell
for finite sins. Clearly, a limited
offense does not warrant unlimited
punishment. God's sentencing of the
imperfect humans to an eternity in
hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin
is infinitely more unjust than this
punishment. The absurd injustice of
this infinite punishment is even
greater when we consider that the
ultimate source of human
imperfection is the God who created
them. A perfectly just God who
sentences his imperfect creation to
infinite punishment for finite sins is
impossible.[/size]

torchwave:
Why not go ahead and do so? Give the characters substance and reality that goes beyond the pages of the book like the Bible so that millions of people all over the world and in every century would testify even with their lives to witnessing them as not just 'characters' but living reality they have heard, spoken to and seen just like millions have heard, spoken to and seen God the Father, Jesus Christ, angels, demons, Satan - 'characters' in the Bible... If you can do that...then you're entitled to whatever you call yourself.

Lord of the rings

kevoh:
This johnydon don kolo.

Lolzzz its just a very simple test... the guy made an extra-ordinary claim and the test i gave was just a very simple one..

Its high time they'd stopped shoving this laughable claims to our faces and start proving it..