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Ifeann:
Dude does dangote pay zakat. Yes or no.
2. Have u ever spotted sanusi in a neck tie.. Look, don't u think I have an issue with these men, dangote was the richest black man last year and sanusi gave those corrupt bankers and subsidy folks a tough time during his tenure. I have respect for these men. Their choice of apparel doesn't bother me,, I only pointed out an observation made clear by that article from an Islamic website. I told u I read a lot of pro Islamic material.

I only do the gender stuff cos it amuses me how u and ur colleagues react to it..

But on a serious note, do not insult or mock Muslims. Only state facts backed up by the quran and hadiths.

what type of tie abeg... You mean the bow ties or long ties?

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So now God is writing his name on a tree... funny

tevinsolt:
great way to respond to a question, call it deceptive and move on.
it is a simple philosophical question. can you explain how empathy came about, if yes explain, if no admit you don't know, admit that your thoughts have not gone this far.
both of you guys do not have the slightest philosophical knowledge in this little things you try to attribute to evolution without any support and think you have made a point. A simple premise surrounding relative morality I couldn't get across to you guys.

Isnt this what they have been trying to make you see since?

Our empathy comes from our humanity Where else would you want it to come from... i have mentioned it like a thousand times in this thread but somehow you all just feel the need to re-ask an unnecessary question...

I really do not need to argue any more over this..
..Am done...

Expressions:
There's no justification for offering a human being as a burnt offering!

The intervention in Abraham's case says it all. The lesson I got from Abraham's case is, "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me!"- Anything that comes between you and your God becomes your god be it money, wife, child, materialism, a craving/propensity of any sort.

People in the old, when they came to know about the One God, offered burnt offerings of animals to Him out ignorance and tradition.

But through a prophet, the Will of God regarding this was made clear:
Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Anyone who kills to please God has gone against His Will, he shall have to reap what he's sown.

So if God ask you to kill your son you wont?

asadike:
God can only ask a man to do that. Come and see what women go through during labor na him baba loke go still ask me to kill my only son. Oboy, na to kill me first. Am a christian but am just being honest here.

So it is ok for the man to do it right?

zieraw2005:
why not if it guarantees both of us heaven.

Really?

frank317:
See you... How is ur God good? All you reply is my God good because he good.

What make ur God good? What has he done that makes him good? Tell one thing he did that shows he is good.

Is he good by sitting down in a golden chair in the sky and watching humans suffer for their own mistakes? If you are a father would you be a good father if you allow ur son suffer terribly because he made mistakes? He watches the devil he created torment and deceive his loving creations year after year and you say he is good?

Remind me exactly why you say your God is good. Tell me just one good deed he did.

for every good deed he mentions, i will mention five bad deeds.

Common seriously?

Even Jews/Hebrews know they are nothing near negroes. . . i wonder why you niggas are killing yourselves over some bullshiiit... na by force to be negroe?

You guys should stop trying to force yourselves into what you are not so you can identify as Yahweh's chosen race..

frank317:
Why do I think no one is perfect? What a question. Mr image.... Is any human perfect? Look I am not here to answer silly questions.

Listen, if someone does good, he is good. If someone does bad he is bad. What does the above mean? If john does good in his house and does bad in market...,he is good at home and bad at the market.

No human is perfectly good or even perfectly bad. Why? Because we are human and sometimes have to make selfish decisions that might hurt others. Yet some people are gooder (permit me to use the word) than others. Some people are known to be good majority of times than bad, this does not make them perfect. But it makes the good.

Goodness is a human concept and not ur bible's or ur religion's. You religion is only trying to confuse it. We don't have perfect Christians just good Christians. We also have bad Christians. No Christian is perfect. If you like quote the whole Bible, reality is reality. Since you have been reading your bible what has it done to you? Are you better than me? You are still struggling with ur emotions as to when to do good or not. Do you really love ur neighbour as urself? Who are we deceiving.

If you make a decision that benefits another and does not show selfishness. You are said to be good. Believing is a Jewish God does not make one good, rather its ones good deed that makes him good.

Frank i honestly see no need for you to continue replying the guy... Everyone have made their point clear... and thats all

Ok everybody is commending Abraham who almost murdered his son because God asked him to, even though it is wrong to kill your son..

They also think Jesophath is justified for using his daughter as a burnt offering to Yahweh cus he made a promise.

Now my question is
Can You Kill To Prove Your Faith In God

tevinsolt:
you seriously don't get it. I can't change your mind but..
I easily can make this more difficult for you by asking you to account for how matter went from being purely physical to metaphysical having emotions, empathy and all
and pls do me a favor by answering these questions
where did empathy come from (and pls don't say evolution)
where did the Concept of Justice came from?
why do we feel the need to avenge wrong doings? don't you think revenging a dead person is selfish and arrogant to think killing is wrong? or that by taking revenge you impose your moral view on the person who committed the murder? not only that, you have buy into the murderers idea of morality to make him "pay" for taking the life of one of your own, in which is people might also retaliate.

in a morally subjective world conflict would be the order of the day, in our world reality is there are absolute morals that cut across every culture. these morals stands regardless personal bias.

Seriously dude all your questions above are so very deceptive...
You seem to want to separate empathy from humans..

I wont address of any of it cus it will bring about more senseless questions and keeps going... if you dont know anything else to reply the guy then free the case dont resort to asking baseless questions that doesnt even make sense..

Image123:
Does He say so?

U dont even read the bible.

Commandment to wipe out whole races Deuteronomy 7:1-2

WHEN THE Lord your God brings you into the land which you are entering to possess and has plucked away many nations before you, the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you,
2And when the Lord your God gives them over to you and you smite them, then you must utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them, or show mercy to them.

They are countless examples in the bible ; The story of noah being the worst (Tho it was copied from the sumerian flood fables)
Sodom and gomorah...
God charges saul to wipe out the amelekites and live none alive... so many of them

tartar9:
Hast thou ever considered [the kind of man] who
makes his own desires his deity? Couldst thou,
then, [O Prophet,] be held responsible for him?
Say, "Shall We inform you of the greatest losers
(as to their) deeds?
those whose endeavor has been wasted in this
world (because it is directed only to this-worldly
ends, and so it is bound to be wasted hereafter
also) while they think they are doing good.they are those who disbelieve in the signs and
Revelations of their Lord, and in the meeting with
Him. vain will be their works, nor shall We,
on the Day of Judgment accord to them any weight. And We will turn to all the (supposedly
good) deeds that they did (in the world), and will
reduce them all to dust particles scattered about.
(Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice,
my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the
Cherisher of the Worlds (Al-Qur'an)

And you cant even write something without quoting that outdated book...

Please if you cannot contribute dont post such nonsense here...

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dalaman:
You keep making empty statements that you can not defend. With God slavery was sanctioned in the bible. Rapist were told to marry their victims in the bible. Parents were told to stone their disobedient children to death inside the bible. ISIS is presently spreading terror around in the name of God and divine command theory. Humans over the years have thought themselves to appreciate empathy and to think about others. We have a brain that enables us to do that. When I see a guy raping a lady I can empathize with her, knowing that he is taking her against her will and causing her pain in the process. That alone is enough reason for me to act of I can or call for help. Doesn't need God in anyway ,because with God in the bible rape was permitted.

Bro i fink their is need for u to say any more on this...he will never get it.

The more you say the more baseless defense he brings up..

I believe all your points and posts were clear enough... its left for him to understand or not.

Tho i dont expect him to, it goes against his beliefs and religious convictions you know...

The thing is the koran and the bible is riddled with contradictions and myths and impossible fables.

But Binb it will be better you start seeing the contradictions in your own holy book and leave others alone.

For the guy who said all the verses above hold no contradiction, thats a huge lie.

Mark is the earliest of the 4gospels you know others hugely copied from him adding their own fantasies too.
Tho the four gospel were written by anonymous authors, christian scribes added those name tags you see now.

They were more than 300 gospels written, almost all were dropped in favour of the four gospels you have now at the council of nicea where the canon of the bible was assembled.

The koran copied hugely from judaic text and gnostic gospels.

tonychristopher:
WE HAD OUR OWN TYPE OF DEMOCRACY AND WE HAD OUR OWN ALPHABETS CALLED NSIBIDI



IGBO IS THE MOST SOPHISTICATED RACE IN SUB SAHARAN AFRICA

Yeah bro and even other african societies have theirs, the hausas had theirs, same goes to the yorubas, zulus, benin, nok, ashantis etc...

sorextee:
Toasting in d name of atheism. I wonder which temple una go do una wedding

Court wedding gidi gan and actaully it doesnt even matter if na church or mosque. what matters is that we sign the marriage certificate and are legally married... gerit? So now whats ur problem with like minds trying to get together?

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nana228:
ok,can you send me a pm containing your number?

No need for the pm dearie here is my digits **********

nana228:
Lol

But seriously Nana can we talk on whatsapp.?

nana228:
Present.

Closet atheist, still pray with my family and go to church which is so annoying. It'll kill my parents if they find out so i intend to keep it to myself.

I intend to save my kids from religious scars- more like godless mom

I think if we get married it would be better realized...

People around me know i don't give a hoo haa about no religion and they like talking with me which have made many of my friends almost agnostic lolzzz..
I only pretend when it comes to my parents shaa... they are the only Gods that i worship and actually the only Gods that i know are real...

frank317:
ya.. however, i wish Africans documented theirs... as a writer, I would have gotten much content for my stories. Lack of a widely accepted African myth is the reason why our books and movies lack content and creativity. Nothing to look back on and make our imaginations run wild. we have become nothing but boring people who have to depend on active foreigners to feel human. so pathetic.

And here are my fellow Africans telling me if i dont believe in some Jewish myth... I will be in trouble... why dont we create ours and threaten the jews to believe it.

Yeah i am a huge fan of african folklore and mythology...
I take time study that of my people too tho the information available is quite disappointing.

People prefer to stake their lives on the jewish folklore and myths instead and its saddening.

i will post for you what i wrote in a previous thread.

They are all myths and should be regarded as myth as enjoyed as such not placing one as a universal truth and leave the others.

Men africa really lost her identity

here is one of my post to a thread on how africans faired before christianity and other shiitty religions came to us ...
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Honestly i will say that the many replies we get from the Christians here are
utterly disappointing and unintelligent.. .
Have heard many say the white brought education and civilization here, oh
that is correct they brought their OWN education and taught us to ignore
ours.
I am an igbo and i was suprised when i did many research about my tribe
and found high rate of intelligence For intance the ancient igbos had
knowledge in music, medicine, biology, geography, astronomy and
suprisingly have their own mathematics...
the igbos accurately divided the year into 365 days thousands of years
before the julian and gregorian calendar was brougth to us.
the days are divided into 4days in a week (eke, orie, afor and nkwor)
then 7weeks in one moon (month)
then 13months in one year and then a 1day added to it and gives you
precisely 365 days...am sure most igbos here dont know this.
Before the missionaries came to africa, the african society was diverse,
culturally rich, beautiful, morally stable. we had our own unique mythology
and religion, our own gods and ways of worship.
We had unique knowledge and relationship with nature and the world and
our religion taught universal goodness.nobody ever thought or said the
world will rapture or get destroyed, their deep love for mother nature was
unmatched...
Then the white men came; they did many magical things, they can kill you
just by pointing a stick at you(Gun), they did many wondrous things that
were new and strange to us...Then the inferior feelings set it, we saw our
selves as the inferior beings, we started listening to them.
They taught us our gods are demons but the one they brought is the real
universal god, they threatened us with hell fire and the world's ending... We
blindly believed them, they branded our ways demonic endorsed theirs, We
fell for it....I am still wondering how the africa gods which are supposedly
the evil and dark ones never threatened anybody with eternal fire or
damnation or ever threatening to destroy the whole earth, but the one they
brought who they claim to be love and just does that and is proud of
it...Please who is fooling who
we blindly abondoned our ways and embraced his, now we are lost in his
confusion, our own ways are now strange to us...
When are we going to say enough and take back our lives...
Beautiful african utopia is now in darkness claiming to be in the light..
we are blind, blinded by our own ignorance and vainful vanity...
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ifeness:
Just joking..... I find it funny to see Christians making the incident a big deal. But they forgot the fact that killing non-believers puts a huge smile on Yahweh's face.

lolzzz

frank317:
lol... a drama God indeed. But dont blame him for sending man out and not allowing him to eat from the tree of life again. You know he is temperamental, he wasnt thinking then, that was why he sent Adam out. it was when he cooled his flaming temperature that he decided to promise man another after life, but then he coudnt remember where the tree was (you know he also forgets things just like man) so got another alternative which was to kill his motherless son that was himself.

on the curse on snake.. even earthworms were snakes those days na.

The jews sure know how to create one hell of a myth tho...

But i think the greek myth makes a much better story, very thrilling and fascinating than the jewish myth.

and i so love eyptian mythology too...

frank317:
lol you are just a funny dude... well you are right in a way... I cannot hurt your God because he is imaginary. yes I will let go of the anger because the imaginary dude does not exist to touch my girl, thanks, that was helpful.

you are offering me Christianity? seriously? You want me to believe a talking snake convinced man to eat a an apple and that was when Adam realized eve was sexy? you seriously want me to believe the creator of this world created angel lucifer and then ordinary lucifer decided to fight his creator? what was he thinking? you want me to join you to believe your creator is as emotional as man... he gets angry, jealous, loves, slept with Mary, likes praises, likes being worshipped, and builds mansion. Wait... do you want me to join you in believing the creator regretted creating man, sent him out of eden and achieved nothing, destroyed man at sodom and Gomorrah and achieved nothing, destroyed earth with water and achieved nothing, killed his only son (who has no mother) and achieved nothing? An ominipresence, who is nowhere, omniscience who didnt know the man and angels he created would fall and couldn't even make a simple bicycle for his son Jesus to move around with while on earth. an ominipotent who cant defeat even his own creation the devil. an all loving who build a terrible place called hell for his beloved.

Nah, i will pass.

am offering you freedom bro. Freedom from slavery and dogmatism

Chased men out of eden so they wouldnt eat from the tree of life and live forever then turns around nd promise man he will live forever after he is dead.

Nnaa people can believe things oooo.

Tree of life and tree of knowledge.. none is even anywhere now.

Talking snakes with hands and feet that got cursed then lost its hands and feet..(they didnt tell us exactly which specie of snake it was tho, so how come every specie of snake have no limbs)

Then a 450ft boat harbour millions of animals and food to last them a year.

Sees the whole world was bad and only one man was good but didnt consider the children and pregnant women.

Talking donkeys... you can count forever

choi their is nothing people will not believe shaa

Donpely:
Being an atheist doesn't mean u should mock God! Remember he's letting u breath despite all ur trespasses

What?

Which of the thousands of gods are you talking about abeg?

ooman:
God is too wicked for me to worship. He can kill me too, am tired of this silly world he created

which of the Gods abeg?
All this things are just ideas.. be it yahweh, zeus, allah.

None is factual so their is nofin like that shiiiit...