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Jeromejnr:
Time is just a measurement o. That's y we use light from a star. If there is a planet and no star/light near it, Then it has no time because there is no way of measuring it. A star in it self is not ruled by time. Only planetary bodies. Light is used for measurement its like a ruler for the universe we humans use. That's y we have light years to measure distance of bodies in space from a star. The other galaxies have their own stars yea. So their planetary bodies can be measured with time.

Time is just a measurement? you need definition of time again consult ur dictionary... am thru aguing somefin as dumb as this...

Jeromejnr:
No problem sir.

But wait o! What's d difference. What do u measure in time if its not d duration. Remember d formulae distance =speed × time. Let's just say distance (The amount of space between two points or the length or interval of time) here is duration, that whole formulae is known as a measurement of something in motion. So they all work together in one big glorious harmony.

#justsaying

time is measured in this very dmension with our sun n planetary rotation around it.... Dude we are talking the entire universe here. countless stars, countless planets, billions of galaxies!!!

Jeromejnr:
Okay let me take my time and say this.

Firstly eternity is not a period it is a Person. God said "I am d Alpha and the Omega the Beginning and End" There is no beginning before God. Eternity is just a state of existence. U can't fully understand that with d human brain sha.

Secondly. The sun is not time. Einstein even tried to explain der is no such thing as time. But what makes time to be time is the concept of light. Without light from a star there is no past,present or future and no today, tomorrow and yesterday but just an existence. What gives us d measurement is night and day which is caused by the light from the sun (on the earth). That's why in d past to measure time a sundial was used and further down in d past a stick under d sun standing in d sand.

Think of with if there was no night how would we even measure time. Just the sun staying in d same position without moving. It will just be an existence. And funny enough that's how eternity is just an existence.

My hand dey pain me o!

Seriously you need basic comprehension...
Am talking time (duration) and you are talking measurement....
Biko thank u....m thru with this

Jeromejnr:
Why. even some scientist say there has to be an independent being for the big bang to occur.

Let there be and there was. The power of God mehn.

Some scientists? like?
Ok now the big bang according to science started billions of years ago and the earth was formed through it and you believe it, now how come you now also believe that the earth was then created 6,000 yrs ago even when according to the big bang theory earth was already in existence millions of years ago.... Now i think their is need for you to re-evaluate what you believe in.
!!!

Jeromejnr:
Of course I believe in the genesis account.
The Genesis account is d beginning of time and not eternity (and no in case u r thinking big bang is not d beginning of eternity, as u know eternity has no beginning). There was existence before time. And if u know science very well what makes for time is a planetary orbit around star. Thats what gives d measurement.

You know, dude mehn d explanation long abeg. Go and seek God for yourself. I pray u find Him.

note: When God said let there be, there was. All this is a function of the power of God mehn. Peace!

Now you believe in the genesis account and still yet believe in the big bang!!! lolzzzz
Am still wondering how that is possible!!! dont let ur fellow christians catch you saying you believe in the big bang theory shaa

Jeromejnr:
No time. This is a definition and not theory. I'm talking theory. (Theory involves principles and methods of how a thing operates).

Just like the theory of motion is different from the definition of motion.

But I like u sha. U went and did ur research. Its like u really want to find God out. God help u man.

The planetary orbit of the sun is just a time measuring phenomenon by us within our planet not time itself... So understand this the period before your so called time began till infinity are all encompassed in the dimension of time... I just wish you can understand what time is... thats all
And please stop this ur assumptive assertions ...

Jeromejnr:
Of course I believe in the genesis account.
The Genesis account is d beginning of time and not eternity (and no in case u r thinking big bang is not d beginning of eternity, as u know eternity has no beginning). There was existence before time. And if u know science very well what makes for time is a planetary orbit around star. Thats what gives d measurement.

You know, dude mehn d explanation long abeg. Go and seek God for yourself. I pray u find Him.

note: When God said let there be, there was. All this is a function of the power of God mehn. Peace!

Time is a measure in which events can be ordered from the past through
the present into the future , and also the measure of durations of events
and the intervals between them. [1][2][2][3][4][5][6][7] Time is often
referred to as the fourth dimension, along with the spatial dimensions wikipedia encyclopedia.... The planetary orbit around the sun is used by us as a time measuring phenomenon within our planet not time itself... So you see even this your so-called period before time is still in the dimension of time... Now try and Re-read all you just wrote... am not in the mood for long arguements

Jeromejnr:
Sarcasm was In ur last comment bruv.

But anyway I wasn't assuming. I expect u to believe in the big bang. I actually do believe in it.

But there is no effect without a cause.
#justsaying.

You expect me to...lolzzz alright.....
So you believe in big bang which means you dont believe the genesis account then?

Jeromejnr:
Okay. So u thought God was like the air or an invisible mist.

My guy wake up o! Big bang didn't create ur ordered body.

Where do u think u got ur form from. The guardians of the galaxy.

Hahahahahahaha now you are assuming i believe in big bang even when i have not said so...
i just said "nice one bro" why do you feel the need for any further defence...lolzzz

Aybee92:
dats where you guys get it all wrong... if u trust and believe in God he will direct and guard ur decisions

any ways everybody is entitled to his own beliv after all God gave us free will either to allow him guard our decisions or we make it our self

habaaaa nawa ooo!!!

Jeromejnr:
The form of a man. Hair that reaches down to His shoulders (looked brownish though). A purple or scarlet coloured kind of clothing and some other colours. Skin colour of His face like the sun. And voice as sweet as what I can't explain.

Well that's it man.

Wooooow so he had the form of a man with long hairs with shoulders and hands all that, even wore a cloth..oooh alrigh...Hhmmmm thats nice one bro...

Jeromejnr:
Well firstly I can't describe God for u mehn. I didn't see His clear features. I don't know how to explain DAT to u because it a spiritual reality and they are hard to explain. Its like when ur looking at someone through a transparent shower curtain, u can see the form but not really d details.

And secondly me telling u d encounter will not change u at all. Its God word and His Spirit that changes ppl. Because I know u will still come up with theories of arguments.

When you see someone through a transparent shower curtain, at least you will see some of his features and shapes...
Now we are very curious bro and want to learn...Tell us his shape and extension asin hands, head etc

Aybee92:
so you what's your take on the topic since you refuse to concur with anybody here

His take is that whatever decision or thing we do here on planet earth is sorely our decision and our responsibility.... #Simple

LOSKYXANDER:
Please go back to the first point I gave which was explained with the idea of motion. Study it criticaly and you will answer your question by yourself

lmao...assumptions!!!

Jeromejnr:
The one DAT showed u His love and died for u.

The one DAT said we can't stand in His presence by our good works but only by accepting His free gift of grace. Unlike other religions where ur good has to be more than ur bad.

Another subtle way of knowing sha. Is looking at which prophet or God is d most attacked in dis world today. That happens because d enemy tries to keep ppl from seeing d light. (I mean on an online dictionary Jesus is now a swear word. Smh)

But apart from DAT sha. Its only God DAT can make u believe in Him, no one else. Just open ur heart to know Him and genuinely ask Him. And He will.

Jesus is Lord mehn.

Lolzz i understand ur passion to preach...
Ok now how did you know about this God... someone told you? you read in a book? or your parents bore you into it?

So now which of the gods do we need to believe in? They are more than 1million of them?

Ok i am done with all of you here, you guys are getting emotional and taking things personal...
Oya carry on with whatever it is you all are doing... not gonna comment here again...
have a good one guys

OREMUSSANCTUS:
@ johnydon22, u dhe form hard guy! Grow up or find sense borrow. Wetin be ya own matter? Person no no wish one ya dhe serve buh I guess ya tired of dis life, den take it and leave dis world for good

Keep on guessing...!!! ....getting very emotional...lolzzz

5minsmadness:
White noise.

exactly my brother i love making white noise... hallelujah!!!

LOSKYXANDER:
Nothing can come out of nothing. The same case applies to the universe. Please note that the universe exists in time and space. Before the beginning of the universe, time was reset to zero, meaning that there was no past, no future nor even a present. This is the realm God exists in. I am very sure you cannot imagine a situation were time did not exist because it is beyond human understanding. Time in its philosophical sense was created by God along with the universe, A superior being without a begining. Like I said, beyond human understanding

nothing can come out of nothing but you believe this ur deity (god) came out nothing right? now if nothing can come out of.nothing it means this ur god cant come out of nothing so who created this ur god and who created the god that created ur god and so the chain keeps going?

truthman2012:
Smh!

Hahahahahahaha

Ifeann:
Hi buddy, I often don't bother arguing with atheists or agnostics because of their closemindedness on all religion.

I have engaged u before and we kept goin in circles.

Are there killing in the OT, yes
Are there wars in the OT, yes
Are there commands to be fair, loving, righteous etc, also yes
But u are upset about the violence right?

Every civilisation including small tribes, Jews, igbos, fulani, kanuri, yoruba etc have had wars in the past and all have diverse and complex histories.

However, The Jews meticulously recorded theirs and all the prophecies of their prophets and notable events in their history for thousands of years which forms the backdrop for understanding the new testament in greater detail..

You often appeal to events in the old testament which contains ancient passages that was recorded when God was setting up and giving Laws to his people the Jews over 2,800 years before the birth of Christ who came and created our new and improved relationship with his father (600 years afterwhich Mohammed came to preach stonings, beheading, rape of married captives your right hand possessed, child marriage etc )

Have u read the context of the verses u appeal to in the old testament, the inner and historic context. Do u know the theological reason behind the old law..

Why don't u create a topic and ask these questions in a nonmocking manner ( u often use condescending and patronising language, that's right, I have been watching u buddy 0_0 ) and we shall address them.

Shalom.

You know all this long boring post was unnecessary...
I only suggested you also post similar verses from bible for discussion just like you do the quran.
Dont know why you got all defensive even when no question was posed yet.
have no time any more opening religious thread, so you religious folks do that yourselves..
all i am saying is post from both bible and koran so the killings and barbarisms in both books will be discussed not being one sided because of your sentimental attachments to the bible...
I dont even have time to argue anymore shaaa...the truth should be balanced dont you think?

truthman2012:
No doubt, atheists and muslims are under the same deity. The spirit that is responsible for atheists not believing in God is also responsible for muslims believing in a false god, hence your support for muslims.

lmao only a religious retard will read my post and say i support muslims...
anyway na u get ur hand, insinuate all u want ...!!!; D

I cant believe someone just posted this Op above... smh

lolzzz... ironically muslims also regard you christains as pegans... Oya make una carry on...That precious moment when theists are bashing themselves and these their all powerful Gods

Ifeann i know you are here please answer my questions!!!

limamintruth:
Conversion or not, she is doing a good job of exposing the real truth about islam (a.k.a horrors of islam) to the ignorant and gullible amongst us.

That to me, is enough to earn her worthy commendations.

P.S: No one is 'glorifying' her mister. Or is commending someone for a job welldone now a sin again

And why is she also exposing the real truth and horrors in the bible...and many atrocities committed by early christians?? this Truth is sentimental and biased!!!

johnw74:
The Hebrew word that is translated to unicorn is:
reym, it means a wild bull.

Hahahahahaha The word is re'em... hebrew man.. nice try!!!

johnw74:
But you don't have faith that unicorns exist,
you just say that.
Faith is truly believing, you don't truly believe that unicorns exist.
The faith you talk about is blind faith.

she have faith they exist, so unicorns exist....simple..
And even u if u doubt the existence of unicorns then u doubt even ur own bible cus the bible clearly states d existence of unicorns!!!

Ifeann:
I just post articles; verses and stories I see in the hadiths and quran then ask Muslims to explain so I can learn from them...

I am not trying to "cage" them like u said but trying to set them free with truth.

Ma why are you not posting articles; verses and stories you see in the bible too asking christians to explain... am sensing this your truth is one sided...