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Is this what we want for the world?

Macelliot:
You contradicted yourself. Peace!

Do well to show me bro?

Macelliot:
The paradise to come will be the new earth.
All this shall pass away.....

No. Don't love "all" what is in this present earth for they are immoral, inperfect, mortal, full of evil, hatredness, terrorism e.t.c
The New paradise-earth will be a perfect one. All hope is not lost. There's life after death.
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Guy, I don't really know why I likes you specially... I feel attracted to you whenever I sees your moniker.

Bless ur heart,
John.

I choose to see the good in mankind.

My advice to all
Never loose hope in mankind cus you are part of this one whole, humanity is like an ocean, that a part of the ocean is dirty doesnt mean the whole ocean is dirty

Radiate boundless love to the entire world, unhindered by nothing. not religion, not race, class or colour. We are all deserving of love

The issue of the earth passing away, uuuhm that i totally disbelieve.

Be well bro macelliot...

vooks:
My broda,
We are asking WHY humans know why what is right from wrong. Is it genetic like say your eye brows?

Simple because we are humans ,with unique intellect. I dont know what you think about human nature but i tell you human nature is good, beautiful and moral... Whatever you will not like others to do to you, dont do it to others.

You know stealing is bad cus it hurts u when someone steals from u.

You know insult is bad cus it hurts u.

You know raping is bad cus it will hurt u when raped.

You know slavery is bad cus it will hurt u when enslaved.

So you see thats why i said morality is encompassed in the dimension of empathy.

whatever i do, good or bad are all my choice and my responsibility...

Image123:
In other words, you cannot waste time thinking for yourself. Those pictures and quotes are your scripture and therefore sacrosanct. Humanism is just another ism BTW.

lmao..
i av said enough abeg...

You and i and everyother human on earth know the difference between right from wrong... Xo i dont see the need arguing over it anymore... their is nothing that needs saying that have not been said...

Be good bro

Image123:
No circle at all, it's a straight checkmate as it were. Your definition of what is RIGHT is very porous. There are right things that hurt people. Punishment of offenders for instance hurt people e.g the offenders and their sympathizers. Is it right to punish offenders? How do you determine what hurts no one? How do you know people's feeling? Do you feel the same every time? Why should morality be based on feelings? Who is the moral law giver? These are questions you should answer or ponder if you are serious as against irreligious extremists.

not gonna waste time typing on this issue anymore.

undercat:
I think your point was that some things in the universe are alive and some things are not. Jameselias is saying that everything is alive.

No my point is we are all part of the same whole (universe)... read it again..

johnydon22:
This is what the universe is made of, countless stars burning on hydrogen.
The universe is still expanding (formation process) Their is high chance that it may have not even reached half of its potential yet.

Stars are the birth parents of planets and moons which are the birth parents of life...

What made you think we are different from all you see?

We are all part of one whole (The universe)
We are all from the same stuff...!!!

Think about it..

malvisguy212:
Scientists are a big joke,do you want to clone something that God has not anoint? Jesus has two nature, man (son of man) and God (son of God) it was God himself that anointed Jesus
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because
he has anointed me to proclaim good
news to the poor. He has sent me to
proclaim freedom for the prisoners and
recovery of sight for the blind, to set the
oppressed free,

ok sir the bolded was plagiarized from Isaiah.

The thing is the shroud of Turin is just a mere early christian fabrication, so how can it possibly hold the DNA of the historical Jesus christ is their ever was one.

Ok but if any DNA of him was found like is said above, then getting a clone wont be a problem to them shaa...

Jameselias:
seeing that all(animate and inanimate) is matter,atom, and energy what then is life? do not be afraid of ur own conclution broda! Reason it out ur self. All is one. The one is all.

That was exactly my point... we are all part of one huge universe

Emperor4God:
[color=#910099]Dont make me laugh, we have already listed in our link proof he is a freemason.[/color]

http://emperorundertheking..co.uk/2015/01/winners-chapel-satan-illuminati-and.html

Well as a freemason, I do expect you to back him.


If Oyedepo is not a Freemason then what is the pyramid doing on top of this winners chapel illorin?


[img]http://2.bp..com/-FOUBNk6ucuw/VMHOrMOB7WI/AAAAAAAAAqY/Jze-J1oyGqA/s1600/winners%2Bilorin4%2Bupload.jpg[/img]

Oga you dont even know the difference between freemason and illuminati...nawa oo

how is that fin even a perfect triangle, even if it is a perfect triangle it means no shiit.

first tell me the difference between illuminati and freemason...

Over 40, 000 sects, different teachings and beliefs, even condemning and threatening each other with their mythical hell...

No be today e start... Christianity borrowed Yahweh from Judaism, They stripped him off the attributes he had in judaism like the brutality and barbarism and added their own and tadaaa "a new modified yahweh" now they claim na dem get am, even threaten judaic folks wit hell that they are delusioned...lmao

Ifeann:
Anybody that wants to bash athesits for the actions of this man is misguided because of one reason. .. atheists don't have a common doctrine or book that calls for the godless to kill Muslims or christains. .... athiests kill because they chose to and this is traceable to the lack of a moral compass. ..

On the other hand the Qur'an commands Muslims to murder atheists and pagans. .. fight the christains And jews...and make them pay the jizyah or convert or be killed. .


This man must be condemned for his actions but there is no need bringing all atheists into the issue.

This is honesty speaking... i really commend you for being truthful and unbiased.

I for one nothing saddens me more than anybody loosing his/her life cus i believe all human life is the only thing sacred.

Humans killing another is very wrong and should be condemned by all.

Maamin:
Neither did i said you made that assertion



Take note of the first person singular tense

You see you actually thought.

This is just another day to day crime that happens in the world.

U and i know if we start opening threads for crimes all over the world nairaland will be full.

U know when i opened this thread, i was expecting to see Someone going about killing people cus they are theist.

I was actually disappointed when i entered and saw it was just another day to day crime.

It is actually good to know that you think atheist to be very moral in the society that such act as stated above is so rare that it got you surprised.

and am sure none of the atheist in nairaland have ever claimed to be too moral which means maybe it was an observation from you.

(Mind you am not protecting anyone here, But i just need you guys to know the difference between normal day to day crime that anyone can commit from religious/belief crime like jes' us charlie stuff, boko haram, isis)

Maamin:
Here you go!..but I thought an Atheist is well behaved in the society..dont you find it demeaning and accumulation of hatred from what he has been feeding on as an Atheist against theist? Ofcourse bad people are everywhere..they only need the right reason to justify their evil acts. So talking about catalyst that induce this Atheist guy..should not be far within his believe system.

Can we now say that all the theist robbing and killing in the society everyday has something to do with their religion?

Maamin:
Here you go!..but I thought an Atheist is well behaved in the society..dont you find it demeaning and accumulation of hatred from what he has been feeding on as an Atheist against theist? Ofcourse bad people are everywhere..they only need the right reason to justify their evil acts. So talking about catalyst that induce this Atheist guy..should not be far within his believe system.

Can we now say that all the theist robbing and killing has something to do with their religion?

Maamin:
Here you go!..but I thought an Atheist is well behaved in the society..dont you find it demeaning and accumulation of hatred from what he has been feeding on as an Atheist against theist? Ofcourse bad people are everywhere..they only need the right reason to justify their evil acts. So talking about catalyst that induce this Atheist guy..should not be far within his believe system.

And where did i make such assertions?

Maamin:
Ok what is the catalyst behind this your Atheist brother's barbaric act?

What so ever reason he killed them must be his own personal issue...
It is evil and bad to take anothers life... But the issue behind his actions now is what?

Millions of people die everyday from armed robbery, mugging, even here in nigeria by cult wars and rioting and most of this people concerned are theists.. but you dont see anyone creating a thread for it cus everybody knows its just a day to day happening in the world...

He killed them, then turned himself in... commendable
This is evil, it is not moral to kill another human..
Now the question is, why did he kill, was it their personal conflict, robbery or for atheism?

Image123:
You didn't directly state what is RIGHT, leaving me to deduce and infer. I asked if my deduction was correct so as not to misrepresent you but you didn't answer. You hurt my feelings when you asserted that i intentionally skipped your post.
How do you know the feeling of others? Is your reply right?

Nothing need saying that has not being said... am not cut out for going in circles...
whatever question you have, you can easily scroll up and see the answer..
Am done sir... No more mentions cus i wont reply it.

And i am sorry if my post hurt you, it was not intended.

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This is what the universe is made of, countless stars burning on hydrogen.
The universe is still expanding (formation process) Their is high chance that it may have not even reached half of its potential yet.

Stars are the birth parents of planets and moons which are the birth parents of life...

What made you think we are different from all you see?

We are all part of one whole (The universe)
We are all from the same stuff...!!!

Think about it..

Hydrogen when given enough time in a favourable condition can/will turn into a single celled organism... and thats where the evolutionary trend began...

Can we not go through this again?

Image123:
Keep it short and simple i hope. i asked "what is right?" From your post, i deduce that you think RIGHT is what hurts no one with consideration for the feeling of others. Is that what you are saying?
How do you know the feeling of others? Is your reply right? I ask because you hurt my feelings.

If that post above hurt you then you have a serious issue...

If you cant comprehend anything i said above, how can you comprehend more when i say it.

If you do not and cannot discern what is right from what is wrong... smh then its a big pity..

I am pretty sure i have made my statements clear and tactful...
I will not go over this over again dear one..

I am through with you...

davien:
Johnny I believe they want you going in circles....you've said enough.

Exactly my brother... i dont even know their point or where they are coming from in the first place...

Image123:
What is right?

let me quote my previous post to you since you intentionally skipped it.

Empathy is doing the things you do with consideration to the feelings of others so ask me again why it matters... next time search a word you dont know in the dictionary before asking such dumb question (i.e : Am not calling you dumb)

The society derives morality from empathy.

Right and wrong is encompassed in the dimension of empathy. . . as long as as anything you do hurts no one in anyway. e.g You kissing a girl do not hurt anybody in short in is pleasurable to both of you, so how can it be wrong?

You see anything that goes against empathy is wrong and anything that is in coincide with empathy can be termed right.

If i stole from you or insulted you, my actions are against empathy (cus it hurt you) that means i was wrong by stealing or insulting you..

If i shelter you when you are homeless, my actions are in coincide with empathy (its good for you) that action can be classified as right...

Nobody is evil and nobody is good.. we are all born neutral to a beautiful world.. and are all capable of great good and great evil. it is the decisions we make when faced with the choice of good and evil that determines what our actions are or will be

Pr0ton:
Let's start trying some prophecies. "The Lord will return the second time on the 25th of December, 2015"

Behold a virgin shall concieve and bear a son, and shall name him emmanuel... oh eeeehm Jesus

davien:
Isn't your belief also an authoritarian one?

He is asking you what belief is
Then turns around and borrows another question if good and evil exist...

Is good an entity or evil an entity

The guy just lost it... desperation is on point now

vooks:
Do good and evil exist?

Okay you are becoming real desperate, now you are jumping into a different discussion derailing your own thread...

are good and evil entity's?

Hahahahahaha i heard this last year... we are waiting for christmas this year for the return of jesus christ..

vooks:
davien, he is bleeding badly

Lmao...me? ...

I just wonder why you are calling devian here...
You no longer have anything to say...so lets wait for them.

Oga this is not a personal issue, we just had a civilized discussion so act like it my bro.