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Christianity Etc › Re: Tomb Of Christ Opened For The First Time In Centuries by jonbellion(m): 5:22am On Oct 28, 2016
Lennycool:
Most historians agree that Jesus really did exist, but all the miracles are fairytales, Jesus was probably just some dude that preached using the old testament. The people that wrote the new testament didn't know Jesus, as it was written no less than 50 to 40 years after he died.
it's very likely character like that existed but the fact that after he died zombies walked the street of Jerusalem as recorded in the book of Mathew but no other synoptic gospel recorded that event huh How would all four gospels not have that thing in common isn't that something they should all remember. Anyway a character like jesus' Christ existed but him dying and zombies coming out from the ground and then resurrecting and flying to heaven that is just plain bullshit
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ’s ‘burial Slab’ Uncovered During Restoration by jonbellion(m): 5:12am On Oct 28, 2016
promise10:
I NEED MORE LIES PLS!!
from your comment you obviously don't know jack sh*t about your religion
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning! Don't Watch This Video, You Might Lose Your Faith by jonbellion(m): 7:29pm On Oct 27, 2016
[quote author=Deicide post=50559624][/quote]whaaaathuh?? Sitting on the north polehuh??

Christianity Etc › Re: Warning! Don't Watch This Video, You Might Lose Your Faith by jonbellion(m): 7:27pm On Oct 27, 2016
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Christianity Etc › Re: Andres Bisonni Miracles: Atheists, Please Come In And Explain by jonbellion(m): 7:13pm On Oct 27, 2016
promise101:
Wow, welcome!

You have any problem with saying "co-atheists"??

Hope you are not here to troll yourself. Anyway, just pick them up one by one. If you need more, I can give you more 5 videos at stretch.

Bro, just leave the limb growing miracle, because even if I post it. It will still scream "staged"! I have watched one though, but I forgot the website I watched it from. Though, I don't know if it has been taken down, but I will still search for it intensively.

But, to avoid derailing my thread, just leave the limb growing miracle stuff, I am yet to search for it well. Now just focus on debunking the op.

Is limb growing miracles the ONLY proof that the supernatural exist?

If yes, it means that the above op is not a supernatural something. Then if it is not, I would like you to tell us what it is, the scientific mechanic behind the video and video of scientists who did exactly this kind of things under the scientific mechanism you are to bring.

Please, I would appreciate.
you saw a limb growing miracle?? shocked

Science/Technology › Re: - by jonbellion(m): 6:53pm On Oct 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
Let me talk as lay man who doesn't know how science works; why is it that chimpanzees evolved through different stages to what we know today as man, yet these chimpanzees still exist and they're not evolving anymore? Why are they even in existence at all when they ought to have all been man?

My second silly question is; why is it that evolution started with chimpanzees, and it's only chimpanzees who supposedly started evolution, that can be seen to be alive, no other species of man, e.g homoerectus?

Me believe that since chimpanzees are still in existence and man which happens to be their highest evolved specie is in existence too, then I think one or two of those species of man should equally be alive.....or is it coincidence?
evolution didn't start with chimpanzees
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning! Don't Watch This Video, You Might Lose Your Faith by jonbellion(m): 5:40pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:
Before nko.

Humans are different from apes!
cool
well duurh are we the same specieshuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning! Don't Watch This Video, You Might Lose Your Faith by jonbellion(m): 5:37pm On Oct 27, 2016
GRIMMJOE:
Your case is different
he didn't even watch it twice look at the length of the video and the time he replied apparently lying fir jesus is cool. I saw a picture of a supposed pastor in Nepal being burnt alive for his faith but in reality it was actually a picture take from 2006 of a thief being burnt in equador. He was even rescued after the picture was taken

Christianity Etc › Re: Warning! Don't Watch This Video, You Might Lose Your Faith by jonbellion(m): 5:34pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:
Oops!

I even watched it twice.
But sorry, my faith is still strong o.

In short it's even stronger.

Oops
wink
how did you watch it twice when it's 13 minutes and it didn't take up up to 26 minutes to reply huh

Science/Technology › Re: - by jonbellion(m): 5:23pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:
"In this world, it is only thieves that are not smart that are caught."

"For every thief caught, there are a thousand more"

But it was the same evolutionists that discovered it naaa huh Not creationists
- Nigerian contemporary addages.
but it was the same evolutionists that discovered it naaa huh The techniques that were used to definitively prove that Piltdown Man was fake are the exact same techniques as those used to date real fossils. Dude this is the mist controversial aspect of science for over 150 years now. It's evidence is only getting stronger. Lamarck's theory has died out. If this theory would be refuted at this stage it would be more like a modification not an entire dismissal
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Satanist And Am Proud To Be One by jonbellion(m): 5:22pm On Oct 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
I didn't respond last time because of your strawman , repeating it again only means one thing . You didnt hear that from me grin
lol the only reason you feel it's a strawman is cuz you believe the Abrahamic God exists. Okay if you say so I can't really be arguing. But if you want to judge all atheists the same way it would only be rational to judge christians that did terrible things the same way as you judge all Christians
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Satanist And Am Proud To Be One by jonbellion(m): 5:16pm On Oct 27, 2016
raphieMontella:
so...i have a question...
Is it moral for females to be in public with thier hands,,legs etc exposed or to be covered with the burka or niqab?
Thank you dude!! I told this guy that objective morality is not the same in every religion. This is a perfect example
Science/Technology › Re: - by jonbellion(m): 5:12pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:
https://www.nairaland.com/3280338/breaking-news-fossil-supporting-evolution.

This link above exposes one way people have used fabricated fake fossils and fabricated stories of how man evolved.
It exposes the fraudulent scientist who used fake orangutan and some other bones to deceive the whole world that he discovered fossils.


It took almost a century to actually expose how he did it.
And Of course, many more have been exposed.

But is it not common sense that I can actually bury the skull of a chimpazee and claim it is the skull of an ancestor?

It has even been exposed that some of the fossils were assembled from just a single tooth.
And from there people were made to believe lies.

If indeed evolution is not a lying mission, what is an article on evolution doing under "religion"?
That asides.

I will say it again. Evolution requires more faith to believe than to believe any other thing.

No scientist has been able to demonstrate an animal adding DNA to its DNA to become a higher animal.
It has and will never happen.

Till then. Evolution is as good as belief, if not superstition.
Piltdown Man was created with the objective of fooling scientists, not lay people, so it only succeeded for a short time. The very fact that it was eventually revealed to be a fake is evidence that science is inherently capable of seeing through illusion, acknowledging errors, and refining its ideas by use of the scientific method. It shows that theories like evolution are based on solid and consistent evidence that behaves in expected ways. It is also worth noting that though you guys like to rant about evolution's errors, frauds, or simple mistakes, not one of those errors or frauds has been exposed by so-called "creation science". Every single one of them, from Piltdown to Haeckel were found by experts in evolution, doing the work of evolutionists.
A single forgery does not prove that all evidence is forged (this would be confirmation bias at its very worst. A single forgery does not overturn the actual evidence that does exist and isn't a forgery. Science actually spotted the fraud and corrected the mistake. Meanwhile, Christians still insist that the Shroud of Turin was Jesus' burial cloth, even though it has been proven to be forgery made in medieval Europe based on radiocarbon dating. Not to mention that it wasn't universally accepted by the scientific establishment because of its conflict with other pieces of evidence — it takes a lot more than that to fool practicing scientists.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Road To Hellfire Is A BROAD Road. Many Are Doing It DOESNT Make It Right by jonbellion(m): 5:00pm On Oct 27, 2016
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Christianity Etc › Re: by jonbellion(m): 2:58pm On Oct 27, 2016
analice107:
You asked a rhetorical question, because you also gave the answer. They are possess by demons. Controlled by demons. How do demon possess who are not delivered enter into God's Kingdom?
I hope you know that being born again is done in your spirit, not in your flesh? And the Bible says, EXCEPT a man be born again, he can not enter into the kingdom of God.
So with their spirit occupied by demons, how will the mad person get born again? Think.
what of people with down syndrome. Or cerebral palsy. Are they also " demon possessed" huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Congregants Flee Church After The ‘devil’ Appears by jonbellion(m): 1:12pm On Oct 27, 2016
What the actual Bleep lmao.. Hmmm I guess christians don't have faith after all
Christians sef
That's how they also lie for Jesus. There was a picture of a man being burned it was claimed that he was a pastor being burnt alive Nepal. It turns out the picture was of a guy caught stealing in equador and was taken in 2006. He was also rescued minutes after the picture was taken
Lying: It's not wrong if it's for Jesus grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Rory Fenton: From "Atheist hating" Catholic to Atheist Advocate/Writer by jonbellion(m): 11:48am On Oct 27, 2016
Edenoscar:
no worry nah una plenty pass
If you dont belong to any of this you're also part of the 2%
Catholic Church- 1,166 million
*. Latin Church- 1,149 million
*. Catholic Charismatic Renewal- 160 million
*. Personal Ordinariate for former Anglicans- 0.005 million
*. Eastern Catholic Churches- 17 million
*. Alexandrian Rite
*. Ethiopian Catholic Church- 0.2 million
*. Coptic Catholic Church- 0.2 million
*. Antiochene Rite
*. Maronite Catholic Church- 3.1 million
*. Syro-Malankara Catholic Church- 0.4 million
*. Syriac Catholic Church- 0.1 million
*. Armenian Rite
*. Armenian Catholic Church- 0.4 million

Breakaway Catholic Churches- 28 million
*. Philippine Independent Church- 6 million
*. Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association- 5 million
*. Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church- 5 million
*. Traditionalist Mexican-American Catholic Church- 2 million
*. Old Catholic Church- 0.1 million
*. Polish National Catholic Church- 0.025 million
*. Apostolic Catholic Church- 0.005 million

Baptist churches- 75-105 million
*. Southern Baptist Convention- 15.7 million
*. National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc.- 8.5 million
*. National Baptist Convention of America, Inc.- 3.1 million
*. Nigerian Baptist Convention- 2.5 million
*. Progressive National Baptist Convention- 2.5 million
*. Baptist General Convention of Texas- 2.3 million
*. Baptist Union of Uganda- 1.5 million
*. American Baptist Churches USA- 1.4 million
*. Brazilian Baptist Convention- 1.3 million
*. Baptist Bible Fellowship International- 1.2 million
*. Baptist Community of the Congo River- 1 million
*. National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A.- 1 million

Lutheranism- 70-90 million
*. Evangelical Church in Germany- 24.5 million
*. Ethiopian Evangelical Church Mekane Yesus- 7.9 million
*. Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania- 6.5 million
*. Church of Sweden- 6.3 million
*. United Evangelical Lutheran Churches in India- 4.5 million
*. Batak Christian Protestant Church- 4.5 million
Nondenominational evangelicalism- 80 million
*. Calvary Chapel- 25 million
*. Born Again Movement- 3 million
*. Association of Vineyard Churches- 15 million
*. Christian and Missionary Alliance- 4 million
*. Church of God (Anderson, Indiana)- 1.2 million
*. African initiatedProtestant churches - 60 million
*. Zion Christian Church- 15 million
*. Eternal Sacred Order of Cherubim and Seraphim- 10 million
*. Kimbanguist Church- 5.5 million
*. Church of the Lord (Aladura)- 3.6 million
*. Council of African Instituted Churches- 3 million
*. Church of Christ Light of the Holy Spirit- 1.4 million
*. African Church of the Holy Spirit- 0.7 million
*. African Israel Church Nineveh- 0.5 million
*. Seventh-day Adventist Church- 18.1 million
*. New Apostolic Church- 10 million

i didnt even include mountain of fire an co
lol and they aaaaaaall broke out from the catholic church. It's only rational for Catholics to think that they are all preaching heresy. But wait oo if God is speaking to all his people why would he divide them like this nahuh Someone commented the other time that christians should change their church to deeper life. I've seen one christian tell his fellow christian that he'll go to hell cuz he was in a different denomination. Nawa sha. Nawa
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Satanist And Am Proud To Be One by jonbellion(m): 11:41am On Oct 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are indeed dangerous people - always malevolent towards religious people .

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous
https://www.nairaland.com/3283286/communist-leaders-atheists-there-difference

Read this too :https://www.nairaland.com/3148752/atheists-express-rage-against-god

Seun , can you really trust someone who lacks any moral compass ?
dude nawa for you oo
If something is wrong because God says so like murder for instance then morality is arbitrary. If murder is wrong irrespective of Gods say morality does not require God. If you say murder is wrong because its against Gods nature since God decides his nature morality is still arbitrary. If God doesn't decide his nature then GOD IS NOT A REQUISITE OF MORALITY. Abeg have you ever gotten death threats from an atheist. Even if you have that doesn't mean all atheists will automatically send you death threats I'm agnostic but you should really stop labelling all atheists the same way.you are assuming Gods existance in defining something that already exists (morality) therefore it is circular reasoning by attempting to show the existence of God in this manner.

Christianity Etc › Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by jonbellion(m): 10:25am On Oct 27, 2016
TomHagen:
That thing is cultural. Stop saying rubbish!
what? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: I Crashed ‘flying’ From Benin To UK, Says Man Found In Sapele River. by jonbellion(m): 8:03am On Oct 27, 2016
What the Bleep is thishuh? Why Africa whyhuh

Christianity Etc › Re: Fake Atheism And Fake Followership. Judge Yourself. by jonbellion(m): 6:08am On Oct 27, 2016
Archeological evidence even shows that the Jews were never enslaved in Egypt in the broad sense. The Egyptians are excellent record keepers and yet they don't have records of Israeli slaves for 400 years huh The pyramids of Giza and the sphinx two of the seven wonders of the ancient world weren't mentioned in the biblehuh? Weren't they supposed to be in Egypthuh No record of plagues no Israeli writing or pottery found in the desert that they wandered in for 40 years no evidence of motherfucking anything!!! Unlike evidence of Greek and roman influences in Isreal . I think this was the last straw for me when I realised this. Now I don't know if there is a god or not but the Jewish God exists for the Jews and Jews only and not all of mankind
Christianity Etc › Re: The Antichrist Will Come From The Revived Roman Empire ( Europe) by jonbellion(m):
jiggaz:
For the people speculating whether the Antichrist have been revealed, rest your oars. The antichrist wont be revealed until Christ raptures his church.

And this man called the antichrist will come from the revived Roman Empire ( a.k.a. United Nations of Europe ). According to Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream, we are at the Last Kingdom.

After the Rapture of Church, there will be chaos in the whole world due to the disappearance of millions of people ( if not billions sef ) all over the world. In that chaos, one man will rise and will offer to bring peace to a chaotic world, and the whole world will follow him. By then, Europe as you know it will have been united by one currency, one enonomy and one army. That is the Revived Roman Empire headed by the antichrist. It is this same kingdom that Christ will come and destroy at the second coming to establish His Eternal Kingdom that will reign forever!!!!

Mind you, America is not mentioned in the endtimes. It doesn't have a role to play..... The time is soooooo short!!! plz if you have not accepted Christ into your heart, plz do so... The rapture is imminent!!!

For the records, we are already in the 3rd day according to God's time plan. He said that He will revive us after 2 days. 2 days been 2,000 years . It has been over 2,000 years since Christ died. According to Bible Scholars of Eschatology, Christ died between AD 33 to AD 37. So automatically, we are in the early morning of the third day and Christ resurrected from the dead on the early morning of the third day. So our rapture is imminent!!! Hallelujah!!! Our blessed hope!!! Believers in Christ, don't despair our Saviour is coming to take us as He promised. We Believers are not looking for the antichrist, we are looking for our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ. Comfort one another with these words.
Christianity Etc › Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by jonbellion(m): 3:19am On Oct 27, 2016
Why would people still believe in witchcraft in 2016huh? there was a "witch child" abandoned and left to die by the christians in akwa ibom and was saved by a danish worker Now the boy is healthy and recovered yet he was a
"witch child"
Abeg what kind of human beings are this people huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Fake Atheism And Fake Followership. Judge Yourself. by jonbellion(m): 7:40pm On Oct 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Without God , you have no moral compass . Here's a typical example of objective morality vs subjective morality .

Objective morality
As a christian , it is morally wrong to have sex before marriage . Reason : God's law

Subjective morality
As an atheist , there is nothing wrong to have sex before marriage . Reason : There is sexual attraction , its a necessity when you are in a relationship , satisfying sexual desire .

As a christian my reason for abstaining from sex before marriage is because I adhere to God's law . As an atheist , you are abstaining or engaging in sex before marriage because of personal reasons . What you feel , what you think .

As a Christian if I should err - have sex before marriage - I've done something morally wrong . As an atheist , what determines whether you have done wrong or not ? You have no scruples when engaging in the act .

Apply this reasoning to the atheist's killings and despicable acts . It all depended on what they felt or thought it was right . No standard , no compass , no guidance .



Sorry what ?



The emboldened text is incongruous with the teachings of Christ so its morally wrong .
dude you are using circular reasoning to argue for Gods existance. You are just basically saying morality exists because God exists this is circular reasoning in the end it doesn't prove anything. Not to mention that if you want to use objective morality as a basis objective morality is not the same for every religion. Why is it wrong to have sex before marriage. If you just say cuz God says so this is also circular reasoning You haven't really proved anything. If you are saying all atheists don't have morality you are playing God and If atheists are moral since they reject the idea if a god they do not get their morality from religion. If you say they do you are back to circular reasoning. Morality can only be morality if it is done for the goodness of its own sake, not because it was given by an authority figure. For example Gid says don't lie. So lying is bad cuz God says it's bad- circular reasoning logical fallacy btw... Now if you lived during the holocaust and then you lied about keeping a Jew for the Jews protection in that case what you did was it bad or good. Since God says lying is bad, even what you did would not be considered moral in the christian sense cuz God says lying is bad.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fake Atheism And Fake Followership. Judge Yourself. by jonbellion(m): 5:45pm On Oct 26, 2016
There are notable athiest leaders in the world right now anyway
Francois hollande president of France is an atheist
Former Australian prime minister Juliana Moore is an atheist
John key prime minister of new Zealand is an atheist just to name a few
Communism and atheism are two different world views they do not relate to each other. Jesus Christ even had communist views in some ways
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A Mental Disease; 3 Ways To Cure It by jonbellion(m): 5:18pm On Oct 26, 2016
There was a "witch child" that was abandoned earlier this year in akwa ibom and was rescued by a Danish worker. The community had left left the child to die because of the presumption that he was a "witch child". Thanks to the woman the child us now healthy. We are supposed to have passed this stage naaaa. Stop making stupid and ignorant presumptions cuz you always see patience ozokwor on one nollywood movie on your TV screen acting like the wicked witch mother
Christianity Etc › Re: Fake Atheism And Fake Followership. Judge Yourself. by jonbellion(m): 3:37pm On Oct 26, 2016
GRIMMJOE:
Just now one was telling me the sun and moon is experienced at the sametime all over the earth,another said the earth is spiritually flat,then his fellow Christian (felixomor1) said,actually the earth is circlular and God is sitting on the north pole(You go fair chairman)
*facepalm* the sun shines at the same timehuh? Spiritually flathuh Lmao
Creationists shaa

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by jonbellion(m): 3:23pm On Oct 26, 2016
Pidggin:
You reason like a man devoid of spiritual insight. Humble yourself and learn before trying to engage in arguments on subjects you know absolutely nothing about.

Let me help you out a bit. If you study the scriptures you will find out that by the power of the Spirit of God Himself we can do all that He expects of us, yes even you can look at a lady without lusting after her if you have His Spirit. When the Spirit directs your life then you don't need to worry about sin or laws, it will be a normal thing for you.


Jesus had to start somewhere, God chose Isreal so who are we to question Him? When Peter denied Jesus three times, he asked for forgiveness and repented when Judah betrayed Jesus even though he became remorseful, he took his own life without anyone reprimanding him, who do you blame for his choice? Jesus or himself?

You need understanding
hmmm are you sure doesn't the scriptures say you if you have faith as tiny as a mustard seed you would be able to move mountains and cast them into the sea? Plus you can even drink poison and nothing would happen. The children that have died due to their parents relying on faith healing than taking children to the hospital, didn't their parents have faith that their children would be completely healed. Yet they died and some if them are charged for manslaughter. Where they not "spiritual" enough. I was a christian once. I had faith as much as you did. But along the way it just stopped making sense. Since you're so spiritual I'm curious have you seen Jesus before? Not the western version of him portrayed by the church and the media. Jesus is a Jew not Caucasian. Children that also have imaginary friends also believe that they are real. Outgrow your imaginary friend. There may be a God or not we do not know yet. The real creator of the universe would not favour one tribe after the other and help that tribe to take other peoples lands as was portrayed in the old testament The bible prophesied that Isreal will always be at peace with it's neighbours. This is not true and you can observe it in the world today. The bible also prophesied that Egypt would be a barren wasteland that would be uninhabited for 40 years. Never in Egypt's history has it been uninhabited for 40 years. The bible is a noble attempt at understanding the world at the bronze age. I appreciate it but not in the way of a moral guide. After all didn't the psalmist say blessed is the man who dashes his child against the rocks huh Detronoumy said if two men are fighting and a woman should try to break the fight and by mistake touch one if their genitals her hand should be cut off. The bible tells slaves to obey their earthly masters. Now we know slavery is wrong. The bible says it is a disgrace for a woman to speak in the church. Yet this is not practised.
All the animals weren't in one garden, a woman wasn't formed from a mans rib and snakes don't talk. This is the Jewish creation myth. Iono if a God exists or not but the Abrahamic Gods attributes are a total insult to the idea of a deity
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by jonbellion(m): 1:57pm On Oct 26, 2016
Wilgrea7:
thanks. i don't know all tho.. i still try to gather knowledge both inside and outside Christianity.
my major conclusions from the research I've done are

1. tithe isn't scriptural
2. hell isn't eternal
3. God didn't support those unjust killings, slavery, murder and rape.. the devil did
4. the true nature of God.
5. there is more to what we know about Christianity


feel free to ask anytime
though I disagree with you on some things you are quite rational and reasonable
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by jonbellion(m): 1:44pm On Oct 26, 2016
cloudgoddess:
Lmao cloud 9.

Have you watched Cosmos?
which of them? The carl sagan or Neil degrasse Tyson version?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by jonbellion(m): 1:39pm On Oct 26, 2016
Pidggin:
Obviously you are not as intelligent as you think. What do you know about the Justice of God, you think he judges with the reasoning of man. The same God that said the wages of sin is death also needed to counter His word by the sacrifice of the death of his son

But how can you understand this when you do not know the one whom you try to understand. Can you understand someone you don't know? How so?

Your speculations are numerous it makes your points laughable. God planned the death of His son on a CROSS, it could not have happened via any other means so what is the purpose of all your speculations? Yes if His son was killed by an AK47 that would be a symbol of remembrance for us and what is wrong with this?

You say God is not real yet your imagination runs wild at the mention of Him
are you actually serioushuhhuh An all knowing entity had to have his son tortured and killed just so we can regain redemption rather than just forgiving us. Was there a need for a human sacrifice?? The jesus' you worship openly said he came for the lost sheep of Isreal. Are you a Jewhuh It was only when he was rejected that was when he now changed mouth and said he came for all of humanity. What makes you think he won't change his mouth again and accept the Jews Gods "chosen people" he said he can't take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs He said the disciples should not preach to the gentiles and yet you still think he initially came for all of mankindhuh
Please the true creator of the universe can't be racist. I know the character of jesus' Christ very well. I know he was a Jewish man. He worshipped in the synagogue, read from the torah and observed the Passover like any other Jew. And since you said it was Gods plan all along to sacrifice his son all along does Judas deserve to be eternally punished. After all he was only acting out Gods master plan.
How was it a sacrifice. Jesus didn't even stay dead. He spent 1 day and 2 nights in the grave not 3. After being rejected by the Jews because of his claims of being God, he then decided to redeem other humans as a last resort. Nobody likes being a third wheel plus he said a lot of outlandish things, he hasn't come to bring peace but a sword, leave your families and follow him, if you are angry with your brother you have murdered him in your heart , looking at a lady with lust is adultery this is a God that is so egoistical and insecure that when if you as so much insult his alter ego which is the holy spirit you will burn forever. He was the one that brought up the concept of hell. The Jews the people your religion came from didn't even believe in hell. He was sacrificed for sins he didn't commit and that is morally okay to you??. I never said God isn't real i said the concept if God is unknown and religions can't be right because they each have different contradictory beliefs even in the same religion .he didn't even seem happy that he was going to die he prayed for the cup to pass over him he prayed till his sweat was like blood and yet you think he wanted to willingly be sacrificed
Kim Jung un north Korea dictator punished citizens for crimes of their earlier generations. This is not right but this is what the Abrahamic God does
Let me know when you'll sacrifice your innocent loved one for something as trivial as admiring a woman or for the crimes of a terrible psychopath. When I was younger I knew a girl that said she was afraid of jesus Christ. Why the Bleep won't she be afraid when most of the pictures depicted of him are on a cross bleeding upandan
Christianity Etc › Re: Murder Is Not Wrong As Long As There Is A God! by jonbellion(m): 11:46am On Oct 26, 2016
felixomor1:
Ur freedom of speech ends where another person's own starts. And also where the law starts..
And that law is represented by the officer.
U can see the type of reasoning u r using. No wonder.

Be using google as ur Constitution there. Lol

Moreover the people u even captured seem to also be groaning like angry kids who were mocking the prophet and then complaining after they were punished.

Continue with ur google law and order.
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