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LagosShia:
Firstly you are taking us into another topic entirely about Jacob and Abraham and giving me your interpretation and that of Paul,the fake prophet who founded Christianity.i am not interested in that please.through,Abraham and Jacob are the nations blessed because many nations today claim descent from them.

Lets go back to the topic.the first point is contradiction.let us compare the two verses:

Mark 16:15-17
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,and preach the gospel to every creature.
(16) He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved; But he that believeth not shall be damned.

AND HERE:

Matthew 15:24
He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

As regards your question on the only issue,I have dealt kindly with that.Im sure you didnt read my post below, Maybe you should review my post again.

Judek2:
Jesus was born of the
lineage of Abraham,Isaac,and Jacob(Isreal). He was the fulfillment of the promise that God had made to Abraham many centuries earlier. Because of obedience and submission to God's will.God's promise to Abraham was two fold. (First),God promised to bless his lineage, namely Isaac,
Jacob (Israel), and the Children (descendants) of Israel. (Secondly),God promised that from this lineage of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob would rise up a blessing for all nations, meaning all mankind.
(see Acts 3:25-26 and
Galatians 3:8,14).

In this promise to Abraham, both the descendants of Israel,
and the Gentiles (all non-Israelites) were to be blessed.

This was confirmed many centuries later when Jesus was born.
When the baby Jesus was taken to the temple for dedication, a devout elderly man who had been praying there was moved upon by the Spirit of God. He took the child in his arms and proclaimed these words in prayer to God:

Luke 2:30-32;
For my eyes have seen Your salvation, which You have prepared in the sight of all people, a light (1) for revelation to the Gentiles,and (2) for glory to Your people Israel.

From the passage above, we understand Jesus' ministry to be likewise two-fold. First of all,because he was born of the Children of Israel, his first mission was to reveal himself and God to the Israelites..
They were God's chosen people -- the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob(Isreal).

Unfortunately, over the course of time, the Children of Israel had grown hardened and indifferent to the things of God. As a result,it was necessary for Jesus to minister personally among them with signs and wonders in order to confirm to them that he was the long-awaited Messiah, the Blessed One, the Anointed One whom God had sent to redeem His chosen people.
For this reason during his personal ministry, Jesus instructed his disciples to go only to the Children of Israel. They were to hear the message first. This was to be their privilege because they were the people of God's covenant, the promise of blessing.
Following the death and resurrection of Jesus, one of his disciples addressed the Israelites as follows:

Acts 3:25-26;
Ye (Isreal) are the children of the prophet and of the covenant which God made with our Fathers saying unto Abraham,"And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed
(26)Unto you (Isreal) first,God having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you,in turning away from your iniquities.

His ministry was to start from Isreal,and thus his second part which was very significant after he has risen.
Luke 24:46-47;
And he said unto them.Thus it is written,and thus it hehooved Christ to suffer and rise from the dead the third day.
(47)And that repentance and remission of sins shall be preached in his name among all nations,beginning at Jerusalem.

The Bible is clear that this salvation in Jesus,the saviour is available to all people.
During his earthly ministry,he instructed his disciples to go only to the Isrealites,But after the second part of his mission was completed(The atoning of sin on the cross), he thus instructed his desciples;
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power,after that the Holy Ghost (the promised comforter) is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth

Matt.28:19
Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Jesus confirmed the universal nature of his mission when he said
John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness,but shall have the light of life

I nominate my France based lady and friend Plappville and my US based friend Frostbel .
I'm going International

Jaogbaje also gets my vote if, as of Moderator.

[quote author=the_seeker link=topic=819003.msg9717333#msg9717333 date=1323293599]Please paste the verses on NL for all to see it you are truthful. Please we are waiting and dont run away[/quote]Do you need the verses texts itself on the six different creation periods by the Koran?
Well, I will provide it sooner.

LagosShia:
for your own sake,get a Quran whether in book form or online and check those verses by yourself.people like you are here to waste the time of others.next time,do not declare or tell us what those verses are about.simply quote the verses side by side and let us see by ourselves if you are right.when i use the bible as reference i quote the actual verses.so please,dont put your words into the Quran.the Quran is not the same thing as your bible.

Revelation By Allah himself
(Surah 53:5 & 10)
He (Muhammad) was taught by one mighty in power,enduced with wisdom: for he appeared (in stately form)
(10)So did (Allah) convey the inspiration of his servant.
Another translation of the Koran says-
9) Till he (Allah) was (distant) two bows’
length or even nearer,
10) And He revealed unto His slave
that which He revealed.
. . . . .Here, Allah appeared in human form to convey (reveal) the Scripture. Read also (Surah 81:19-24)

By the Holy Spirit
(Surah 26:192-194)
Lo, it is the revelation of the lord of the worlds.
(193) which the Holy Spirit hath brought down earth,that there mayest be (one) of the warners.
. . . .Here,The Holy Spirit brought it (scripture) down to earth. Read also (Surah 16:102)

By the Angels
(Sura 15:
We send not down to mankind, the Angels save with the fact (scripture), and in that case,(the disbelievers) would not be tolerated
. . . .Here,they (maybe Allah and his three daughters) sent the Angels with the fact (scripture).

By Angel Gabriel
(Surah 2:97)
Say O Mohammad to mankind, who is enemy to Gabriel,for he it is, who hath revealed (this scripture) to thy heart by Allah's leave,comfirming that which was (revealed) before it and a guidance and glad tidings to believers.
. . . .Here,Angel Gabriel revealed the scripture by Allahs leave.

The Koran was revealed by four persons acording to the Koran.

This Book was inspired by Mohammad and written by his illiterate followers, even a simple novel is more accurate than the Koran.
Koran has many scientific erros,archeological errors,Language(Arabic) blunder,even historical events. And its full of contradictions.
For example,
Mohammads call

(1)Suras 53 and 81 — God, or Allah as he is called in Arabic, personally appeared to Muhammad.

(2) Suras 16 and 26 — The call was from the Holy Spirit.

(3) Sura 15 — Angels issued the call.
(4) Sura 2 — Gabriel was the one who appeared to him.
. . . .Thats a total of four calls from four different persons.

Another is on the creation.
In one place it asserts that Allah created everything in "the twinkling of an eye" (Sura 54:49-50).

Elsewhere it says that the time period of the creation was two days (Sura 41:9, 12);

Other one in four days (Sura 41:10);

In six days (Suras 7:54, 10:4,and 32:4);

then in "a day equaling 1,000 years" (Sura 32:5);

and also in "50,000 years" (Sura 70:4).
. . . .That's a total of six different time periods

The Koran also contains many scientific errors. A crude example is found in (Sura 18:8-86) where it says that Alexander the Great followed the setting of the sun and discovered that it went down into the waters of a muddy spring!

If I begin to write historical and archeological errors, its countless.
I dont know why Muslims are so adamant and unwilling to be subjective for once.

Where should I start nomininating?
Here or there

@2shuz

Songs of victory,shall we sing unto the Lord,
When we reach to heaven,so joyous it shall be.
When we dwell in Heaven,white garments shall we wear,for we shall be Angels.

With the Prophets and the saints,we all shall worship the lord.
The throne of the Almighty,shall we match round about,
Singing a victorious song,with the choirs of Heaven,and the twenty four elders,we shall praise the Lord.

We shall go to Heaven,singing a victorious song,where death shall be no more,nor shall there be any sufferings.

We and the Holy ones of God,shall all assemble in Heaven,where his Glory shall be forever.
He shall wipe our tears with a silver robe. And crown our heads with the Golden crown of Victory.

All our sufferings shall we forget,and our sorrows shall be turned into Joy.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=739943.msg9711653#msg9711653 date=1323246576]@Judek2 Can you try to defend my comment up there since plappville and David refuse to respond to it[/quote]Repaste the question

manmustwac:
it says f for female by your username which means your saying that your lesbo yourself right?

She is a girl дss licker. . Lezbian of the 1st class.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=819005.msg9714942#msg9714942 date=1323273269]The Testimony of John
    19 This is (AI)the testimony of John, when (AJ)the Jews sent to him priests and Levites (AK)from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, “(AL)I am not [q]the Christ.” 21 They asked him, “What then? Are you (AM)Elijah?” And he *said, “I am not.” “Are you (AN)the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 Then they said to him, “Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am (AO)A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, ‘MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,’ as Isaiah the prophet said.”

now Oga explain the bold to me. Can Christ and that prophet be the same person? secondly why did they Mention Christ, Elijah and then say that Prophet. Dint the prophet have a name?

You must be a blunder in English comprehension questions.

How can Christ and the prophets be the ones capitaled,rather he just explaind who he realy was to them.
[b]He was the one Isaiah prophesied to prepare the way for Jesus

whats confusing you on that simple passage?[/quote]

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=819005.msg9714942#msg9714942 date=1323273269]24 Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. 25 They asked him, and said to him, “Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the [r]Christ, nor Elijah, nor (AP)the Prophet?” 26 John answered them saying, “(AQ)I baptize [s]in water, but among you stands One whom you do not know. 27 It is (AR)He who comes after me, the (AS)thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28 These things took place in Bethany (AT)beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

   29 The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, “Behold, (AU)the Lamb of God who (AV)takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He on behalf of whom I said, ‘(AW)After me comes a Man who [t]has a higher rank than I, (AX)for He existed before me.’ 31 I did not recognize [u]Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel, I came baptizing [v]in water.” 32 John (AY)testified saying, “(AZ)I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not recognize [w]Him, but He who sent me to baptize [x]in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, (BA)this is the One who baptizes [y]in the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I myself have seen, and have testified that this is (BB)the Son of God.”

@ the bold here again what do you think that look like? is like someone is narating some story and say it happen in one Village call Badagry beyond Seme Border Lagos. hahaha LWKMDH [/quote]Mehn, make sence big time.
You have already answered your question,but still laughing at your answer.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=819101.msg9714935#msg9714935 date=1323273223]LOL na so oo she don run again since from another thread since yesterday[/quote]Mehn, your prophet deserve this tittle (Curse be upon him)

One big secret about the revelation of Korainic verses is that they are revealed to back up and justify Mohammads deeds after he has done it.

The Koran was revealed by Mohammad and written by his Slaves (followers)

This Jubril Aminu most be mad,What his concern about are they not an organization? this is the kind of man they make them think all Muslims are they same with his level of education,Shame on him

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=819572.msg9713483#msg9713483 date=1323261629]and From Idahosa, to Olumba, to Stupidity runs in there blood and brain[/quote][quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=819572.msg9712531#msg9712531 date=1323254149]^^ I see then let them begin with it[/quote]firstly,you critisized him,now you are aproving him, why? Because @Lagoshia refuted you. There by you justifies him.
Who are you following? Your Guts or Lagoshia's.

The man is full of bitterness that he left the issues at hand and diverted to his hatered for Christianity. .Smh
May his soul rest in peace .

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=819005.msg9712535#msg9712535 date=1323254182]Talking about Miracles, Like the seeker said there are lots of Miracles perform by only prophet But we are not Miracle mongers[/quote]I am only but a warner   

You are blaspheming against your prophet by asigning a miracle to him,and he will suicide-bomb you if he ever sees you.   

22Then said they unto him, "Who art thou, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What sayest thou of thyself?


So tell me if he is not Chtist,Elijah, the the prophet, then who is the prophet and why did they refuse to mention the name of the prophet?

Stop fooling around,why did you stop half way? Maybe you should complete the passage.
Your brain is so much saturated with false and hallucinative claims that you cannot read and understand a simple text,

Since he did not mention his name initially,the invisible man is now the Warner?

plappville:
We ere warn about him, its in the bible see it:
(1) Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

(2)Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

(3) Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and"perform great signs and miracles" to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

(4)Ezekiel 22:27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain


[s]Mohammed did not even perform any miracle that could ve qualified him a God sent prophet, he only parform promotion of violence and terrorism.[/s]

Now @Paris10, you have to be more rational in your critisisms on peoples posts.
I totally agree with @Plappville on her above posts. The posts speaks of both fake prophets and fake pastors, as you can observe.

My marked No (1) ,(2) and (4) above directly points to Mohammad expecially @no (4)

On her post post on no (3) is directly to fake pastors as Mohammad couldnt perform miracles. So when you judge,judge with facts.

LagosShia:
[b]i for one know that figuratively the number of churches in Lagos far exceeds the number of christians in Lagos.

you just need to take a look in commercial areas and even rich residential areas like banana island and the lekki expressway.you actually see tens of churches before you can spot a Masjid.along the lekki expressway for instance,you dont see a masjid visibly from the expressway but you see many churches.the very beautiful lekki central mosque is built inwards.also,leaving the murtala int'l. airport,there was the church.it was later that a masjid was built by its side to balanace the image representation of nigeria.

i hope muslims are not sleeping while the christian missionaries are giving nigeria a false image of a "christian country".

let the muslims in nigeria wake up and BUILD THE LARGEST MASJID (MOSQUE) IN THE WORLD IN LAGOS,IN YORUBALAND.That would be a direct message that the dream of a "christian south" is a wet-dream fantasy for the missionaries that is false.i know among the muslims,we have generous men who are rich and capable of undertaking such project.so please they should come forth to BUILD THE LARGEST MOSQUE IN THE WORLD IN LAGOS.also,i encourage muslims to open facebook groups and pages calling for the construction of the LARGEST MASJID IN THE WORLD IN LAGOS.

christians keep building churches while they have more than enough.while muslims spread their mats outside mosques and unto the streets to pray on fridays because of lack of space.that is unfair.muslims should wake up!!!
[/b]

Hahahaha,my Muslim friend is complaining. Why critisizing and protesting at the same time. .Go and complain to your Mallams.

[/quote][quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=818598.msg9709161#msg9709161 date=1323202477]Yea masha Allahu God will make it possible

So na jealousy dey worry you before.
You said waste of land now you are saying God will make the largest mosque possible. FUNNY MUSLIMS. 

@all, if you say factories and schools and hospitals should be built instead of churches, tell that to the Government,this is not a Government building but a private effort.
Haters and pretenders,the Pope and world leaders will appreciate this more than Nigerians.
If Boko Haram burn down ten Churches,twenty will be built. If they destroy smaller churches, Larger one will be built,and now, the Largest in the whole wild world .
This shows that JESUS IS LORD .

@OP, believe me,muslim women(girls) are corrupt,as simple as that.
I've been in the North just for one week,and I stayed in a muslim compound,the family has two sisters 17 and 18 years.
They kept on visiting my room one after the other from the first day (acting nice and friendly).
And they love young Igbo boys more than their guts and can go to any lenght to get them. .
Damn,i would have sined when one day the younger one asked me "Do you know what is sex,and have you done it before". (now she realy means business) the older one was a bit shy as she only brings me food and stuffs,and we chat a lot.
Believe me,if not for Jesus,I would have slamed the two sisters twice or trice,but na Jesus save me

First the above verse you quoted
is in contradiction of :

Matthew 15:24
He answered, "I was sent only
to the lost sheep of Israel."

There is no contradiction here,
Jesus was born of the
lineage of Abraham,Isaac,and Jacob(Isreal). He was the fulfillment of the promise that God had made to Abraham many centuries earlier. Because of obedience and submission to God's will.God's promise to Abraham was two fold. (First),God promised to bless his lineage, namely Isaac,
Jacob (Israel), and the Children (descendants) of Israel. (Secondly),God promised that from this lineage of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob would rise up a blessing for all nations, meaning all mankind.
(see Acts 3:25-26 and
Galatians 3:8,14).

In this promise to Abraham, both the descendants of Israel,
and the Gentiles (all non-Israelites) were to be blessed.

This was confirmed many centuries later when Jesus was born.
When the baby Jesus was taken to the temple for dedication, a devout elderly man who had been praying there was moved upon by the Spirit of God. He took the child in his arms and proclaimed these words in prayer to God:

Luke 2:30-32;
For my eyes have seen Your salvation, which You have prepared in the sight of all people, a light (1) for revelation to the Gentiles,and (2) for glory to Your people Israel.

From the passage above, we understand Jesus' ministry to be likewise two-fold. First of all,because he was born of the Children of Israel, his first mission was to reveal himself and God to the Israelites..
They were God's chosen people -- the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob(Isreal).

Even the Qur'an bears
witness to this distinction:
And commemorate Our servants Abraham, Isaac,and Jacob, possessors of power and vision. Verily, We did choose them for a special (purpose) --proclaiming the message of the hereafter. (Surat-us Sad 38:45-46

Children of Israel, call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred
you to all others (for My message).
(Surat-ul Baqara 2:47)

Unfortunately, over the course of time, the Children of Israel had grown hardened and indifferent to the things of God. As a result,it was necessary for Jesus to minister personally among them with signs and wonders in order to confirm to them that he was the long-awaited Messiah, the Blessed One, the Anointed One whom God had sent to redeem His chosen people.
For this reason during his personal ministry, Jesus instructed his disciples to go only to the Children of Israel. They were to hear the message first. This was to be their privilege because they were the people of God's covenant, the promise of blessing.
Following the death and resurrection of Jesus, one of his disciples addressed the Israelites as follows:

Acts 3:25-26;
Ye (Isreal) are the children of the prophet and of the covenant which God made with our Fathers saying unto Abraham,"And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed
(26)Unto you (Isreal) first,God having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you,in turning away from your iniquities.

His ministry was to start from Isreal,and thus his second part which was very significant after he has risen.
Luke 24:46-47;
And he said unto them.Thus it is written,and thus it hehooved Christ to suffer and rise from the dead the third day.
(47)And that repentance and remission of sins shall be preached in his name among all nations,beginning at Jerusalem.

The Bible is clear that this salvation in Jesus,the saviour is available to all people.
During his earthly ministry,he instructed his disciples to go only to the Isrealites,But after the second part of his mission was completed(The atoning of sin on the cross), he thus instructed his desciples;
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power,after that the Holy Ghost (the promised comforter) is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth

Matt.28:19
Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Jesus confirmed the universal nature of his mission when he said
John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness,but shall have the light of life

LagosShia:
Let me tell in all confidence that Osama Bin Laden will go to hell.just like your “born again” Christian brother,George Bush will also join Bin Laden there.all those who took innocents lives away will end up in hell.

here is a comment by Abu Ismail on Osamas death. According to him and many high ranked Muslims, he is A MARTYR.

[b]And Usama bin Laden—may Allah
be pleased with him—may Allah
take great mercy upon him. I ask
Allah to accept him with the
righteous and the martyrs, O
Lord. Do not imagine that a
martyr is only someone with
whom you’ve always agreed
throughout your life. If you had a
different point of view from him,
and then he was killed, this
would not negate his martyrdom.
Now this man (i.e. bin Laden) had
religion wealth, and he was able
to spend millions in the path of
Allah, and speak the word of
truth with power. However, he
preferred to sacrifice his flesh,
his offspring, his family, and his
wealth, and go to the front lines
to work in the path of Allah. The
most glorious among us are
always the martyrs. May Allah
have mercy on him. The
testimony which he obtained
was a great fortune. I suppose
that he—and Allah is his judge
now—is among those of whom
it is said, “If only my people
knew,” Allah-willing. May Allah
take great mercy upon him, and I
ask Almighty Allah that the
Muslims may soon be able to
avenge him, as well as all of the
martyrs of Islam, such as
‘Abdallah ‘Azam, Ahmad Yasin,
and others, O Lord.[/b]

You must be a lebel in Islam because Osama is a righeous man before Allah and he will go to Heaven according to your Koran. (suffer me to bring many Koranic verses that supports Osama?)

PSALM 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, 'there is no God. They are corrupt,they have done abominable works,there is none that doeth good.

1.) Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God,
the LORD is one.
Mark 12:29
"The most important one,"
answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O
Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord
is one.
2.) Matthew 1:23
“The virgin will conceive and give
birth to a son, and they will call
him Immanuel”[a] (which means
“God with us”).
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will
give you a sign: A young woman
will conceive and give birth to a
son, and will call him Immanuel.
3.) Matthew 2:6
“‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land
of Judah,are by no means least
among the rulers of Judah;for
out of you will come a ruler who
will shepherd my people Israel.
Micah 5:2
“But you, Bethlehem
Ephrathah,though you are small
among the clans[a] of Judah,out
of you will come for me one who
will be ruler over Israel, whose
origins are from of old, from
ancient times.”
4.) Luke 7:27
This is the one about whom it is
written: “‘I will send my
messenger ahead of you,who
will prepare your way before
you.’
Malachi 3:1
“I will send my messenger, who
will prepare the way before me.
Then suddenly the Lord you are
seeking will come to his temple;
the messenger of the covenant,
whom you desire, will come,”
says the LORD Almighty.
EVEN YOUR PAUL DID NOT AVOID
BUT COPIED FROM THE OLD
TESTAMENT:
5.)Isaiah 49:8
This is what the LORD says: "In
the time of my favor I will answer
you, and in the day of salvation I
will help you; I will keep you and
will make you to be a covenant
for the people, to restore the
land and to reassign its desolate
inheritances,
2 Corinthians 6:2
For he says, "In the time of my
favor I heard you, and in the day
of salvation I helped you." I tell
you, now is the time of God's
favor, now is the day of salvation.
http://www.nairaland.com/
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topic-772940.64.html#msg9633746

Since Mohammad did not know what is prophesy and neither did he fulfil any,(which is a snare to his Prophetship), its not strange to me that his Slaves wont know the mystery of Prophesies too.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=739943.msg9702600#msg9702600 date=1323132152]They were saving money LOL. Sorry just kidding here. Well they are Pagan Serving idols,  Secoandly Allah never proof His existence throught Mohammad alone,  He did through all Prophets including Jesus. but each prophet was send to there people its was only Mohammad that God send to the whole world,  I believe you might have about where God send Jesus to. If you haven't then i'll tell you. God send Jesus to the lost ship of Israel not you cos you are not an Israelite.[/quote]I guess you are not an
Arabian either.

God sent Mohammad to the whole world? By saying that you must fight and convert the world for him. And the only promised way to Heaven is through JIHAD.
Please,let us be sincere,As a human being with intelligence,where do you think Osama Bin Laden is now?

As for Jesus being sent only to the lost ship in the harbour. LOL,Sorry just kidding here .
Note: stop making fun of someone's mistake because you are a mess yourself.

mark 16:15-17
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,and preach the gospel to every creature.
(16) He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved; But he that believeth not shall be damned.

Thats how Christianity began,and those evangelists only want to save your soul.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=811919.msg9684278#msg9684278 date=1322910726]Judek2 defend my post are you not christian again?[/quote]One thing with your posts is that it hardly makes sence,(believe me,its true)

how can one reply to these?
[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=811919.msg9683961#msg9683961 date=1322907708]@ all the Christians in the house am putting this to you to defend and please dont give me some excuse that i need holy spirit to understand English ok

Luke 22:67-71:

   67Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them,If I tell you, ye will not believe:

   68[b]And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go. [/b]

   69[b]Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.[/b]

   70Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.

   71And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.

     Can you simply explain in simple form what the verses and the bolds up there mean to you?[/quote]While the explanation is staring right to your face.

Let me break it down for you.
Luke 23:67- . . .
If I tell you, (that I'm Christ) you will not believe:
and if I ask you (who you think I am), you will not answer me,nor let me go.
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the Power of God.

Now,they understood that he claimed to be Christ,and also the Son of God. Thus they asked him-
Art thou then the Son of God?
He replied : Ye say tham I am
In other words,he admitted and comfirmed that they have said who he is.

They now understood that he potrays himself as Christ and Son of God,which they regarded as a blastphemy. Thus they said-
What need we any further witness? For we ourselves have heard of his own mouth

You can further read mark 14:61
Again the high priest asked him and said unto him,Art thou the Christ,the Son of the blessed?
(62) Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power,and coming in the clouds of heaven.
(63) Then the high priest rent his clothes,and saith, what need we any further witnesses?
(64) Ye have heard the blasphemy: What think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.

I intensionally ignored that post because you have nothing to present.
I wonder what you want to prove of those verses. .

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=739943.msg9683986#msg9683986 date=1322908028]@judek2 so now are you telling me your God is like your father who can promise and later say my son am sorry in made a mistake in my promise,

We all believe that God is greater than the Greatest and mightier than the Mightiest, he know everything but seen and on seen, he sees everything and know everything not how hiding that thing is, Well am not surprise when Adam and Eve hide for God in your bible and God is shouting Adam please come let me see you why are you hiding for me please i need to see you and Adam reply God you cannot see now now[/quote]S e n c e l e s s .

You'v started to sound silly again.

*Exits thread*

A Muslim scholar visits the Pope
in order to give dawah (preach).
He found him amidst a big
christian gathering, the scholar
smiled at the pope & said:
"good to see you, how are your
wife & children?"
People were surprised & the
Pope got angry saying:
"Don't you know that we Pope/
priest don't have any wife or
children?"
The Muslim scholar replies:
"Then, how dare you say that
God has a son!!!"

Hallucination.
Once in a lifetime experience .

LagosShia:
can't you do better than that? is this what your acclaimed illusion of holy ghost is pushing to do:to insult the beliefs of others?

As I wrote it,so it is.
Was he not a lunatic man, or wasnt possesed by Satan?

"And when God says: O Jesus,
son of Mary! Did you say unto
mankind: Take me and my
mother for two gods beside
Allah? he says: Be glorified! It
was not mine to utter that to
which I had no right. If I had
ever said it, then Thou would
have known it. Thou knows what
is in my mind, and I know not
what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou,
only Thou, art the Knower of
Things Hidden? I spoke unto
them only that which Thou
commanded me, (saying):
“Worship Allah, my Lord and your
Lord”. I was a witness of them
while I dwelt among them, and
when Thou took me Thou was
the Watcher over them. Thou art
Witness over all things.(Holy
Quran 5:116-117)

Derisional and blasphemic words by a Lunatic man.

Who is talking ? @Bashy Demmy
Kudos on your mature posts. Sometimes,I dont even feel like replying to your posts. Smh

If you have a right sence of reasoning,you will understand the mistery of events in the Bible. .They have its purposes not literary.

I.e. The event of Abraham and his sacrificial Son Ishmael Isaac has a deeper meaning than just the literal event.
Its a pity that you people kills Ram every year without knowing what you are celebrating.

Maybe you didnt understand this sentence-
"These things are in allegory: for these are two covenants.

Go back and read the post again,you sure will learn more.
Followers of Ishmael.

How important is the Holy Spirit?

He is so important that the only
unforgivable sin in the entire
Bible concerns the Holy Spirit.
You can do and commit any sin
that you can think of, and if you
confess and repent of that sin,
you will be forgiven, except for
one sin, that if you commit will
never be forgiven. This
unforgivable sin is found in
several different places in the
Bible.
LUKE 12:10,
"And everyone that
says a word against the Son of
Man, that will be forgiven; But he
that blasphemes against The
Holy Spirit will not be forgiven[b]
.
MARK 3:29,
[b]"Whoever
blasphemes against The Holy
Spirit will never have
forgiveness, but is guilty of
everlasting sin."

MATTHEW 12: 31-32 "Therefore I
say to you, any sin and
blasphemy shall be forgiven men,
but blasphemy against the
Spirit shall not be forgiven . And
whoever shall speak a word
against the Son of Man, it shall be
forgiven him; but whoever shall
speak against the Holy Spirit, it
shall not be forgiven him, either
in this age, or in the age to
come ".

The definition of Blasphemy is
expressing a lack of reverence. It
is the showing of disrespect
toward something sacred.Blaspheming the Holy Spirit occurs when a person who
knows better rejects the Word
of God which the Holy Spirit is attempting to bring into the
heart of that person. Hence this
rejection or this refusal is telling
the Holy Spirit that what he is trying to bring into the person's
heart is not being believed, that it's not worth the effort or the time to even look into it or study
it, that the very Word of God is not important, and that the beliefs and teachings of Jesus
Christ are being rejected.
God has given us all free will and
whether we accept Jesus Christ is
eventually left up to us. But the
Holy Spirit spends your entire life
trying to bring Jesus Christ into
your life, and if you die still
rejecting his efforts, then you
have committed the unforgivable
sin. If you leave this world still
having a unrepentant heart, then
you have committed the
unforgivable sin. And God will
not want those in heaven with
him who have been so
contemptuous and rebellious.
Ask yourself this one simple
question. Would you want to
spend eternity with people who
are not sorry, and who don't
want to stop participating in
thievery, adultery, murder, and
hate?
When you die still rejecting Jesus
Christ, it is telling the Holy Spirit
that you have ended your life still
rejecting the light and the truth
that he has been trying so hard
to bring into your heart. That
because of your harden heart
and closed eyes and ears, you
have turned your back on the
Son of God and instead have
decided that your life will end still
on the side of satan and the
world. This is a classic example of
having a lack of reverence, a lack
of respect, and a complete
rejection of what the Holy Spirit
has been trying to bring into
your life. To die without Christ is
truly blasphemy aimed directly at
the Holy Spirit.

[url=http://kill the infidels,strick terror into their hearts,let them find harshness in you. .Untill they say that non has the right to be worshiped except Allah.]kill the infidels,strick terror into their hearts,let them find harshness in you. .Untill they say that non has the right to be worshiped except Allah.[/url]

I love this religion,because it is pissfull

I wonder why British Government is so dumb.

LagosShia:
please can you address the topic and not turn this thread into a contest of wits.this seem to be the escape you guys use in most of the threads.you abandon the subject to debate the users.

You are quite funny.
I just defended a silly post by a lunatic Muslim on his misinterpretation of John 21- , by linking it to Mohammad,which is nothing but a fallacy,you said I'm strayed from the isue.
Now I proved you otherwise,you say I i'm abandoning the subject. Smh
While the post was a post by the same Poster.

what will you say next?

I'm a very luminary person.
I try my best to provide facts(by Gods grace), but you can kill your brain to detest.

The truth is under your nose,you know what covering your nose will cause you?
Confusion and bitterness.