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uplawal:
@Sweetnecta, ejowo,help me ask these christians,IRU WO NIYEN?,Always killing his children to satisfy some fornicators,adulterers,murderers,armed robbers,despoiler,all evil people, the list is endless.

let me add child sex.

Without these things in practice, Islam is meaningless.
Ur prophet was the leader of those acts and you cant deny it.

dare2think:
So how can Christians who are themselves demon possessed, cast out demons?

Classic!!!!

True Christians and all who believe in and have faith in Christ cannot be possesed by Demons because they are owned by Christ. Possesion means to take absolute control of something.
How can a demon cast out Christ from the body of a believer?

The above mentioned are just the nature of human beings. Anger,selfishness,jealousy,drunkeness,sexual lusts, etc. Are all human actions that must be exhibited to show that we are Mortals.It does not prove demon possesion.
Moses, the only man who got a glimpse of God got angry many times,David,a man after Gods heart did more than sexual lust, Solomon,the wisest man commited those things in excess and many more.That does not show that they ware possesed.They are just temporal behaviours which can be corrected.
God himself gave ur rules on those sins of the flesh.He odained marriage for seхual lusts, etc so those actions are Human.

As for me,the real demon attacks is Homoseхualism, Lesbiaпism, street sex,nak.ed shows, Seх videos,prostitution and many unworthy acts which God detests. And only a true Child of God can cast them out with Faith in Jesus Christ.

LagosShia:
pastor follower and mannerless man-worshipper,check this and keep quiet:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-739943.0.html

Always posting Gibberish.

focused345:
@post :

Islam is a satanic cult founded by the demonic arabic man called Muhammed, while Christianity is a way of life

Violence, denial of facts and veracity, sheer hypocrisy and stupidity is part and parcel of Islam, while Christian are called to love everyone irrespective of their beliefs

There is no free will in Islam, while there is a free will in Christianity

Nothing good can ever come from islam , while great deliverances comes from Christianity

All true Islamist are clones of Muhammed while all true Christians are little Christ.

In Islam, any religion other than Islam will not be acepted and they are humiliated with heavy tax. In Christiandom, other faiths are tolerated.

I can go on and on and on and on, God have mercy.

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its uncountable, bt I will like to add one.

One says JIHAD is the only way to a Heaven of sexual lusts with 72 virgins,and wine in abundance.

While the other says that JESUS is the only way to Heaven where all will become Angels and no sin (sexual lusts) or any kind will exist.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=795950.msg9745597#msg9745597 date=1323667994]^^^^ Can you please explain in detail why you think Jesus that cannot safe himself can safe me[/quote]

uplawal:
They will tell you,only by believing in him as blah blah blah,very foolish of them.

uplawal:
@LadyT,Heart attack you said?may be you are refering to yourself and your co christians,Lagosshia is far from that.

uplawal:
@mail4gift2,its only  you christians that knows how God look like.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=795950.msg9798891#msg9798891 date=1324322115]LOL yes since Jacob fight and defeat there god/gods[/quote]

uplawal:
Abi now.

Just read in lines.
This is exactly an authentic representation of Muslims discussing.

Just like a story of the Two foolish Goats. Laughing at them selves for their foolishness.

[size=30pt]What Fellowship Can
Light Have With
Darkness?[/size]

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not
unequally yoked together with
unbelievers: for what fellowship
hath righteousness with
unrighteousness? and what
communion hath light with
darkness? [NIV: Or what
fellowship can light have with
darkness?]
15 And what concord hath
Christ with Belial? or what part
hath he that believeth with an
infidel?
16 And what agreement hath
the temple of God with idols? for
ye are the temple of the living
God; as God hath said, I will
dwell in them, and walk in them;
and I will be their God, and they
shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from
among them, and be ye
separate, saith the Lord, and
touch not the unclean thing; and
I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you,
and ye shall be my sons and
daughters, saith the Lord
Almighty.
Ephesians 5:8 For ye were
sometimes darkness, but now
are ye light in the Lord: walk as
children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in
all goodness and righteousness
and truth
10 Proving what is acceptable
unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with
the unfruitful works of darkness,
but rather reprove them.
1 John 1:5 This then is the
message which we have heard
of him, and declare unto you,
that God is light, and in him is no
darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have
fellowship with him, and walk in
darkness, we lie, and do not the
truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as
he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another,
and the blood of Jesus Christ his
Son cleanseth us from all sin.

frackus:
As i go through your post, which seems to be really excellent to make a look into it.

What the fuсk are u talking about!!!
Are u praising or mocking me

This boy just made me vex. .

Cold weather + cold joke = COMA

Studio CFR:
Welldone judek. . .

Dont mind that bad belle naw

Tnx my guy. . .

I neva see tall people finish na short people.

*Next please* One more praise b4 I exit thread

A Saudi woman has been beheaded after being convicted of practising sorcery, which is banned in the conservative Gulf kingdom, the country's interior ministry said. Amina bint Abdul Halim bin Salem Nasser was executed on Monday in the northern province of Jawf for "practising witchcraft
and sorcery", the ministry said in a statement carried by SPA, Saudi Arabia's state news agency.
The ministry gave no further details of the charges for which the woman was convicted.
London-based newspaper al-Hayat quoted a member of the Saudi religious police as saying Nasser was in her 60s.
The official claimed she had tricked people into giving her money, claiming that she could cure their illnesses.
According to the report, she apparently charged up to $800 a
session.

Amnesty International said the beheading brought the number of executions in the kingdom to 73 this year. Another woman was beheaded in October for killing her husband by setting his
house on fire.
There are no available statistics on how many women have been executed in Saudi Arabia.

'Truly appalling'

Amnesty condemned Monday's execution as "truly appalling", and called on Saudi Arabia to urgently halt the practice.
"The charges of 'witchcraft and sorcery' are not defined as crimes in Saudi Arabia", Philip Luther, Amnesty's interim director of the Middle East and North Africa, said. "To use them to subject someone to the cruel and extreme penalty of execution is truly appalling," he added in a statement, which stressed the "urgent need" to stop executions.

violation, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking are all punishable by death in Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy with no written criminal code. Its law is based on a form of Islamic sharia law, as interpreted by the country's judges.

Amnesty has reported that Saudi Arabia executed 27 convicts in 2010, compared to 67 executions announced the year before. Luther described the increasing number of executions in Saudi Arabia as "deeply disturbing" . Many of those executed have had no defence lawyer and are not informed about the legal proceedings against them, according to Amnesty.
"While we don't know the details of the acts which the authorities accused Amina of committing, the charge of sorcery has often been used in Saudi Arabia to punish people, generally after unfair trials, for exercising their right to freedom of speech or religion," Luther said.

Http//:www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/12/2011121302059182183.html

quote author=Judek2

[53:4] It was divine inspiration.
[53:5] Dictated by the Most Powerful.
[53:6] Possessor of all authority.From His highest height.
[53:7] At the highest horizon.
[53:8] He drew nearer by moving down.
[53:9] Until He became as close as possible.
[53:10] He then revealed to His servant what was to be revealed

The same person who is the most powerful,who posses all authority from his own highest height,drew nearer by moving down,until he came close enough,(to the view of Mohammad), so the same person revealed to his own servant what was to be revealed.
Surely Mohammad saw Allah because he came close enough,the other verses states that he saw what he saw,because he saw him the secont time.

Is Gabriel the most powerful? Possesion of all authority from his highest height?
Or is Mohammad Gabriel's servant?

The whole verses is Self explanatery.
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As I posted it,so it is. MOHAMMAD saw ALLAH and it was revealed by him[ALLAH]. This shows how you can twist a simple text.
Its just like a clear childrens' comprehension where everything is literal.It needs not any backing from you or anybody.

diluminati:
when it comes To intimate recklessness forget Christian girls. i have at certain times slept with these 'christian' girls just fresh from sunday service and there are many who are lesbos,and i know a couple of these girls changing guys in and out. its commonplace in the varsities. but if you compare christians are the worst in this game

Are you a Christian girl sleeping with Christian girls or a Muslim girl sleeping with Christian girls

Thread diviated from its purpose.

@OP, Jesus is Lord,the King of Kings and the Lords of Lords,The ONLY WAY to the Father,The prince of Peace. In him,and in him alone,you will find peace and redemption. Let his light shine upon your life.
Peace Be Upon You.

I'm tired of reading this same joke.
I'v known this poke joke since my primary one.

KABA means Kill All Bingo-(gbagbo) Around.

*Laffing with my mouth shut*

mikuz:
mtchew

U may shiit for ur pant.

*Next please*

SEX CLUB:ADULTS ONLY
Children are not allowed without their parents.

SEX CLUB: ADULTS ONLY[/b]
Ladies are not allowed to have children in the bar for some reasons.

[u]Sign Board Caution
DANGER: drive careful, Accident, up ahead,

Hotel room Sign
In case of fire,your alarm is waiting at the front of your door. Just Press and your room is safe.

HOTEL FISH POND NOTICE
We have a cool fish pond,where you can point and kill yourself

HOTEL TOILET NOTICE
We have a nice toilet where you can shiit beautifully.Your life will never be the same

Kaduna state Governors speech at the opening of Polo sports ground With the authority verted on me,I declear this Polo ground open with plenty of Horses.Come and ride on your own asses

Gov.Peter Obi's speech on his swearing in ceremony
I am so happy about how the 2006 general election was took place in this country

Yar Adua's final speech before death:talking to his vice
Kai Mana, Tell my wife Turai make I no chop my Nama head alone,i deserve a befeating burial

Gov.Shettima of Borno State
Boko Haram is Animals in Human fleshes.Their days is counted

Obasanjo hailing Jonathan
He is a man of dreams and straightforward,I am even not like him or anyone else.

tidytim:
As you watch this video of curses against Christians, Please keep saying I reject these curses in Jesus name , Amen.

None of them will ever come true !!!

There's no need rejecting it. They are asking a lifeless god (black stone) in Ka'ba to strike and distroy, but we are asking our living God in heaven to forgive and preserve. Its just like Elijah and the prophets of Baal
You see the big difference.

thehomer:
Actually, we don't have that in common.

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Clearly three different beliefs by the three mentioned groups.

LagosShia:
i am not interested in your personal suppositions and thoughts.

i am simply telling you that Jesus was a militant preacher who at least verbally assaulted his contemporaries in preaching the word of God and telling them the truth and exposing their faults and hypocrisy as the new testament says.except if you want to deny all the verses i put forward.

he even asked his followers to buy swords but changed his mind when he saw the presence of roman soldiers who could have make a massacre against his followers had they attempted to use force.

The first time I entered this Religion section,the the two muslims I saw (recognised) were @Lagoshia and @Sweetnecta. I was so shocked when I read @Lagoshia's signature. I concluded that the people in the Religion section were pagans who needs serious deliverance,so I left the religion section for Jokes (where I had lots of fun) and Politics.(where I bluffed our Naija politicians.)

But I later returned with an enthusiatic mind (not to defend,because its pure ignorance) but to relate the true way,and the Gospel, but instead I saw a more violent and enranged @Lagoshia unlike @Sweetnecta who is more gentle but still ignorant (of the scripture).

I'm now used to @Lagoshia's violence now,so I only throw my points and neglet any unreasonable posts pasted.
I now take this as fun because it made me realy know how to interact with different species of human beings unlike Facebook and Twitter. Thats why I love this website.

The bolded is under the court's detention for violation of persons personality and records.

page9:
Are we saying Muslims do not have the right to have a banking system in line with their faith? When conventional banks are still there to use? As a muslim from the south, I am sometimes amazed with some biased statement coming from my christian brethrens.

How would a christian feel if I insist that churches can not have Universities because christianity will be reflected!
If indeed we want a united Nigeria, we need to be sincere and be fair to one another otherwise we will make no progress.

Do you think that Islamic banking will contribute to unite Nigeria? You are wrong. It will only bring division as I as a Christian cant bank in a system termed Islamic banking,and vice versa.

You sincerely will not bring education into this.Xtians can extablish their schools while Muslims likewise,its an individual choice unlike making a circular country operate in an Islamic system,it is irrational.
This so-called Islamic banking should be implemented in the North and other Islamic states,certainly not in the central bank or the Nation in general.

LagosShia:
another point,based on the translation you copied which is also correct,is that the verse says :"Allah conveyed inspiration to His servant".clearly,the verse does not claim that Allah appeared.that is not in the translation.

[53:4] It was divine inspiration.
[53:5] Dictated by the Most Powerful.
[53:6] Possessor of all authority.From [b]His highest height.[/b]
[53:7] At the highest horizon.
[53:8] He drew nearer by moving down.
[53:9] Until He became as close as possible.
[53:10] He then revealed to His servant what was to be revealed

The same person who is the most powerful,who posses all authority from his own highest height,drew nearer by moving down,until he came close enough,(to the view of Mohammad), so the same person revealed to his own servant what was to be revealed.
Surely Mohammad saw Allah because he came close enough,the other verses states that he saw what he saw,because he saw him the secont time.

Is Gabriel the most powerful? Possesion of all authority from his highest height?
Or is Mohammad Gabriel's servant?

The whole verses is Self explanatery.

LagosShia:
hey Judek,here is the claim you made in the previous post:

the link you presented did not contain the "comments" of Yusuf Ali and neither did i find him boasting as you claimed that Allah appeared to Muhammad.

so you have lied on Yusuf Ali.you should apologize for that.

I admit that the link I posted didnt contain a comment from Yusuf Ali. .Its a mistake of another comment,"not Yusuf Ali"

in the arabic above it says: Fa awha ila Abd[b]ihi[/b] ma awha.it means "and he revealed unto His servant what he revealed".that is translation word for word.the verse in arabic does not include the word "Allah" in arabic.you can confirm from anyone who can read arabic.

You can post and claim anything in Arabic,i'm not interested. I'm dealing with the English translation available.

and furthermore,the above translation does not prove at all that Allah appeared to Muhammad.it only translated (not word for word) but the meaning of the verse that Allah revealed something unto His Servant which is ofcourse through Gabriel if we are to translate word for word.

Every sentence on that in literal English claims and points direct finger to Allah. Some included Allah in bracket some did not. It says So did [Allah] convey the inspiration to his servant

This clearly states of the first persons message. He conveyed it to his own servant,by himself not through anybody.
Since Mohammad is not Gabriel's servant or(slave). Or is he?

LagosShia:
now you come here to display another of your imagination from that big empty head of yours.are you trying to be a delibarate liar to mislead others and prove annoying,or a fool inviting others to laugh at him?

the Quran was pened down in the days of the Prophet Muhammad (sa).otherwise what was the use of the scribes that lived with him and wrote down the verses of the Quran? the Quran existed in written form before the Prophet (sa) passed away.

First,it was clear that Mohammad did not write the Koran,as you agreed.Hadith tells us that Muhammad was illiterate and was unable to read or write. So of course Muhammad did not write Quran.
Muslims claim that Muhammad dictated the whole Quran to his followers and many of them memorized the Quranic verses word by word and later they wrote it down.

After the death of Muhammad there was a time when Uthman the third Caliph of Islam ordered to burn all the copies of Quran except one. It was believed that there were variations in text and recitation practice of Quran at that time and so Uthman took this step. According to Quran and Hadith, Muhammad was the last prophet of Islam. So Uthman was not a prophet and we do not know whether he kept the valid and original Quran or destroyed it? We also do not know how he determined which one was the correct version of Quran?

Muslims claim that Quran was directly given by Allah and Sheikh Ahmed Deedat the Muslim Scholar and other Muslims have claimed that Quran is the word of God because it was written in first person speech unlike Bible, where third person speech is used.
But the very first chapter of Quran is written in the third person speech.

Surah 1:1-7. "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; Most Gracious, Most Merciful; Master of the Day of Judgment. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek. Show us the straight way, The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath,and who go not astray."

This is not the only one example but there are many Surahs which are written in third person speech. So if we take the word of Muslim Scholars, Quran is not the word of God.

LagosShia:
you said "the crescent moon" was a symbol adopted by Muhammad (sa) when infact it was adopted much later outside arabia by the Turks.

The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and
hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon
god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity. While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity. The Gods of the Quraysh
The Quraysh tribe into
which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc., The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.

LagosShia:
please,someone who does not know about his own faith should not comment about that of others.

You are the one who know all evidence about your cult but turn deaf ears and bling eyes. Why? Because the moment you detest, you are a dead man.

you have raised already two lies about Islam that i can recall with the blink of an eye:

the topics I raised was a pure evidence which is still standing today,and has many proofs backing them. Your only proof is from the Koran which says,''dont listen to their lies.''

You said " there were 300 idols in the Ka'ba" when infact there were 360 idols which the prophet Mohammad (sa) eventually destroyed when he defeated the pagans.

About 300 gods, which you have infact stated to be more.

He destroyed them and selected his and his fathers favourite.His father's name was Abd'Allah.His father was loyal to Allah.

Because of his women addiction,Allah's three daughters were also spared,and he recommended them.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=739943.msg9731629#msg9731629 date=1323457710]This is not a matter of misquoting, I want to know more about the religion i want to embrace now.
So who is the originator?
Did Jesus preaches about Christianity?
Who is Jesus in the bible and how did he die?
Who is Paul the Apostle and how did he die?
who are the 40 Men that wrote the bible and how did they come about the story since they are not alive then.
Please i need to know more about all this who knows you might help me and convert me. Thanks my sister in the Lord[/quote]If you want to get converted,go to that Pastor that his Church was bombed down. .He will baptise you and maybe your name will be Better_Remy.

We dont do online conversion by answering to silly questions.

LagosShia:
if there is nothing to address then leave it for others who see something to address.

dont try to change the topic into issues you cannot prove and have no fact to back yourself up.

as for your hallucination of this so called "new covenant" with Jesus,you can see here if you are right:

"Bible Verses Of How Paul Contradicted Jesus (as)"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-820209.0.html#msg9732579

and for plagiarism,that is the bible trademark and no fact to accuse the Quran of it.see here:

"Proof Of Plagiarism In The Christian New Testament From The Jewish Old Testament"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-820199.0.html

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It seems you can make a good historian,
go and find out the people that wrote the Koran,because it was written after the death of Mohammad.

@Remii, those Koranic verses and Hadiths I quoted exhibits exactly what it means.
They are in practice today.